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Rflcrx
Profile Joined October 2010
503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 21:21:38
February 17 2011 19:28 GMT
#841
You can always tell me (via pm) why you think you got banned, who you think banned you and your account name and I'll see what I can do..
/e alou needs to learn the difference between a perm and a tempban
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
February 17 2011 21:18 GMT
#842
Or you could just deal with the not talking for 10 minutes and realize you probably said something incredibly stupid that is worth 10 minutes to yourself... :/
Life is Good.
Rasmussen
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark67 Posts
February 17 2011 21:21 GMT
#843
On February 18 2011 03:58 JanBanan wrote:
And now I got banned by a premature mod, Jesus Christ! Better find a new stream to waste another 1/2 year and 15£ on. FUKK ME


Don't cry. It will be okay.
DharmaTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
February 17 2011 21:23 GMT
#844
On February 18 2011 03:58 JanBanan wrote:
And now I got banned by a premature mod, Jesus Christ! Better find a new stream to waste another 1/2 year and 15£ on. FUKK ME


People get banned and unbanned all the time - don't worry about it. Just ping one of the mods (or even The Steven himself) and reconcile with them.
I went from bronze to platinum in 3 awesome days.
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 21:30:24
February 17 2011 21:24 GMT
#845
On February 16 2011 12:14 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 10:23 s031720 wrote:

(also "in your league" here, and "at your lvl there", its condecending and while it may be true, (I assume) he is a paying customer and should be treated with some respect.

Verdict: Good player but not the best coach Ive seen.


lol



How is it disrespectful to tailor coaching specifically to the league/level of player? I don't understand this argument at all.

Is this the same coddled attitude that comes with not grading tests in red ink? Is it the same attitiude that comes with telling kids that they get a gold star for failing big time because they're special and unique?

But seriously...

Taken in context, he frequently says "in your league" in order to point out to the student that the player he is currently practicing against, by and large has a far higher micro/macro proficiency than the people the student will be matched up against on the ladder "in their league".

The objective is to win games and be a better player. Thus it is rather important to speak about the general capabilities of the people the student will likely be matched up against. If they can reliably take down a Diamond/Masters level 2 rax rush in a lesson, it stands to reason they will likely smash the same play at the Platinum or below level they regularly face on the ladder. This isn't disrespectful in the slightest.

As a coach, how do you go about teaching someone without referring to, mentioning, or considering their current level on the ladder? Coaching a bronze level player is far different from coaching a Diamond or Master's league player. You certainly wouldn't start your Master's league student off by lecturing him about the importance of hotkeys, or informing him of the fact that minerals and gas are used to make units.

You don't pay coaches to tell you you're a good player, you pay them to help you better yourself by pointing out your flaws and instilling the knowledge to rectify them. If that means referencing your league and comparing it to the skill you demonstrate in the lesson, so be it.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
s031720
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden383 Posts
February 18 2011 00:10 GMT
#846
On February 18 2011 06:24 AzurewinD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 12:14 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
On February 16 2011 10:23 s031720 wrote:

(also "in your league" here, and "at your lvl there", its condecending and while it may be true, (I assume) he is a paying customer and should be treated with some respect.

Verdict: Good player but not the best coach Ive seen.


lol



How is it disrespectful to tailor coaching specifically to the league/level of player? I don't understand this argument at all.

Is this the same coddled attitude that comes with not grading tests in red ink? Is it the same attitiude that comes with telling kids that they get a gold star for failing big time because they're special and unique?

But seriously...

Taken in context, he frequently says "in your league" in order to point out to the student that the player he is currently practicing against, by and large has a far higher micro/macro proficiency than the people the student will be matched up against on the ladder "in their league".

The objective is to win games and be a better player. Thus it is rather important to speak about the general capabilities of the people the student will likely be matched up against. If they can reliably take down a Diamond/Masters level 2 rax rush in a lesson, it stands to reason they will likely smash the same play at the Platinum or below level they regularly face on the ladder. This isn't disrespectful in the slightest.

As a coach, how do you go about teaching someone without referring to, mentioning, or considering their current level on the ladder? Coaching a bronze level player is far different from coaching a Diamond or Master's league player. You certainly wouldn't start your Master's league student off by lecturing him about the importance of hotkeys, or informing him of the fact that minerals and gas are used to make units.

You don't pay coaches to tell you you're a good player, you pay them to help you better yourself by pointing out your flaws and instilling the knowledge to rectify them. If that means referencing your league and comparing it to the skill you demonstrate in the lesson, so be it.


Way to make a connotative manipulation of what I said. Hat off to you sir. So let me put is as clearly as possible;

Beeing condecending is not helpful, no matter how you care to describe it. In "context" he did not once used the condecending tone or remarks to describe the relative diffrence between the player and the practicepartner, but only to point out why he should settle for subpar builds and strategies instead of "proper" ones.

And let me be clear on this aswell;

I dont really care that much. My first post was mainly due to beeing suprised and a way to give feedback to his coachingstyle. It wont stop me from enjoying his stream which is beyond doubt the most entertaining one out there. This post on the other hand is me beeing annoyed at the general fanboyism going on in your reply; you may sugarcoat crap, but it will still taste like shit.

Take it for what it is. Im not interested in a long discussion and for all I know maybe he had a bad day or just a bad session. Or maybe he just didnt like his pupil.
Just another noob
Destiny
Profile Joined May 2009
United States280 Posts
February 18 2011 01:34 GMT
#847
The reason why I tell people in lower leagues to settle for sub-par builds is because I believe it is wrong to teach "standard" play to anyone below diamond league. I think it's silly to tell a Zerg that he needs to use a muta/ling/bane comp against a Terran who makes 4 marauders and then rushes to BCs because the Terran has no idea what's going on (as a result of being in silver league...).

I teach very simple (and strategically silly) builds to newer players so they can hammer out mechanics. The less things a new player has to focus on (expanding, harassing, scouting, creep spread, upgrades, tech, drone saturation between two bases, managing queens, timing attacks, expo timings, etc...), the more likely he is to succeed in those things.

I've actually learned quite a bit coaching beginning players and am ALMOST motivated enough to make a big post on it. Maybe after this LAN...
To achieve perfection is to sacrifice growth.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
February 18 2011 02:16 GMT
#848
entertaining zerg stream, hadn't checked it out till recently but was fun watching a bunch of games. had a question for one of the songs playing while he was streaming, can't remember the name but had the word life in the song name. anyone know?
Vhaidren
Profile Joined February 2011
1 Post
February 18 2011 04:36 GMT
#849
wow, I'm really not sure how you'd ever stop a 4-gate like that as zerg... What if you make extra queens at the beginning to help tank for lings/ transfuse spines/roaches?
Rasmussen
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark67 Posts
February 18 2011 09:57 GMT
#850
On February 18 2011 11:16 kvn4444 wrote:
entertaining zerg stream, hadn't checked it out till recently but was fun watching a bunch of games. had a question for one of the songs playing while he was streaming, can't remember the name but had the word life in the song name. anyone know?


You can try to look here and see if you will find it.
http://www.last.fm/user/StevenBonnellII
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
February 18 2011 18:55 GMT
#851
On February 18 2011 10:34 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
Maybe after this LAN...


Which lan?
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
xOff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States247 Posts
February 18 2011 20:28 GMT
#852
On February 19 2011 03:55 Ghad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 10:34 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote:
Maybe after this LAN...


Which lan?


Elevengaming lan in st louis, Its Friday - sunday and he is playing 2v2 w/ bluetea along with the 1v1. It will be streamed by cats pajamas live saturday and possibly the other days as well.
Anything can be accomplished through sheer discipline.
PERSONAL_COACH
Profile Joined February 2011
7 Posts
February 19 2011 16:29 GMT
#853
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JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-20 11:26:24
February 20 2011 11:25 GMT
#854
lol @ photoshop skills. quite the following, was watching elevengaming but I guess they stopped streaming him.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
WANT3DMOST
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
February 21 2011 07:02 GMT
#855


I thought this was interesting! G4
Shananaaa
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 07:37:25
February 21 2011 07:37 GMT
#856
so is steven really having a baby?
I heard it on his stream the other day but I wasn't sure
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
February 21 2011 11:52 GMT
#857
yup
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Semirhage
Profile Joined September 2010
44 Posts
February 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#858
On February 21 2011 16:37 vectorix108 wrote:
so is steven really having a baby?
I heard it on his stream the other day but I wasn't sure

Yup. Destiny's child. Gonna be at the GSL before his 6th birthday.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
February 21 2011 21:15 GMT
#859
On February 22 2011 02:17 Semirhage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 16:37 vectorix108 wrote:
so is steven really having a baby?
I heard it on his stream the other day but I wasn't sure

Yup. Destiny's child. Gonna be at the GSL before his 6th birthday.


wow awesome hahhaha. this is kinda stupid but is his gf bluetea....?
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
WANT3DMOST
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
February 21 2011 21:31 GMT
#860
On February 22 2011 06:15 vectorix108 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 02:17 Semirhage wrote:
On February 21 2011 16:37 vectorix108 wrote:
so is steven really having a baby?
I heard it on his stream the other day but I wasn't sure

Yup. Destiny's child. Gonna be at the GSL before his 6th birthday.


wow awesome hahhaha. this is kinda stupid but is his gf bluetea....?


no his gf is not bluetea just someone he met online who plays SC and they met up at the lan this past weekend.
Shananaaa
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