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prOpSnuffe
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 21:30:24
February 04 2012 18:37 GMT
#2741
I don't understand Destiny behavior in-game, he only blames the game for his losses, he can't face the fact he needs to improve his play and he will never do it with his attitude. If you don't play as Destiny wants you to play, ur "abusing" the game and don't deserve to win. People play to win, face it, people will do everything it takes to win and it will never change, they only thing you can do is to accept the loss and play better.
Best starcraft 2 player of all time? INnoVation
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
February 04 2012 19:17 GMT
#2742
On February 05 2012 03:37 snuffekorv wrote:
This guy is fucking retarded, he only blames the game for his losses, he can't face the fact he needs to improve his play and he will never do it with his attitude. If you don't play as Destiny wants you to play, ur "abusing" the game and don't deserve to win. People play to win, face it, people will do everything it takes to win and it will never change, they only thing you can do is to accept the loss and play better.


Shit happens, you rage and move on.

If I nit-picked every single bad thing that happened in a game and tried to pin the blame on myself, I doubt the game would be much fun.
/commercial
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 04 2012 19:43 GMT
#2743
On February 05 2012 03:37 snuffekorv wrote:
This guy is fucking retarded, he only blames the game for his losses, he can't face the fact he needs to improve his play and he will never do it with his attitude. If you don't play as Destiny wants you to play, ur "abusing" the game and don't deserve to win. People play to win, face it, people will do everything it takes to win and it will never change, they only thing you can do is to accept the loss and play better.


It's just coping from a loss.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
February 04 2012 21:08 GMT
#2744
wait, Destiny still plays sc2?
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
February 04 2012 21:20 GMT
#2745
gtfo with that lol shit, really -.-
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lundell100
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden232 Posts
February 04 2012 21:26 GMT
#2746
On February 05 2012 03:37 snuffekorv wrote:
This guy is fucking retarded, he only blames the game for his losses, he can't face the fact he needs to improve his play and he will never do it with his attitude. If you don't play as Destiny wants you to play, ur "abusing" the game and don't deserve to win. People play to win, face it, people will do everything it takes to win and it will never change, they only thing you can do is to accept the loss and play better.

...And why do you give a shit?
Shourisha
Profile Joined January 2012
1 Post
February 04 2012 21:57 GMT
#2747
On February 05 2012 04:17 Novalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:37 snuffekorv wrote:
This guy is fucking retarded, he only blames the game for his losses, he can't face the fact he needs to improve his play and he will never do it with his attitude. If you don't play as Destiny wants you to play, ur "abusing" the game and don't deserve to win. People play to win, face it, people will do everything it takes to win and it will never change, they only thing you can do is to accept the loss and play better.


Shit happens, you rage and move on.

If I nit-picked every single bad thing that happened in a game and tried to pin the blame on myself, I doubt the game would be much fun.


The point of analysing your mistakes is to improve, thus enjoying the game a little more. Every improvement you make is going to help. Destiny doesn't exactly have the right attitude to get better in any way, besides mechanically.
Furthermore, that isn't rage he's using to fuel his hatred for someone who plays a different way. It's him actually believing that it's the wrong way to play the game. You're just using that as an excuse. Ergo, you're just a rabid fanboy who was quick to point out something that may have been wrong and ended up looking like a complete idiot.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
February 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#2748
On February 05 2012 06:26 lundell100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 03:37 snuffekorv wrote:
This guy is fucking retarded, he only blames the game for his losses, he can't face the fact he needs to improve his play and he will never do it with his attitude. If you don't play as Destiny wants you to play, ur "abusing" the game and don't deserve to win. People play to win, face it, people will do everything it takes to win and it will never change, they only thing you can do is to accept the loss and play better.

...And why do you give a shit?


Why do you give a shit about him speaking his mind?

Destiny probably doesn´t care and that guy just wanted to give his opinion.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 23:16:35
February 04 2012 23:16 GMT
#2749
Maybe Destiny should start a Quantic LoL team...
I don't have anything against him but wth, everytime I see his name in the streamlist he's streaming LoL with 1-1,5k viewers.
He lost interest in SCII or something?
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
February 05 2012 00:27 GMT
#2750
On January 31 2012 23:54 The Void wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 22:28 Kring wrote:
The argument he is more interested in lol because of audience numbers is false, because when he starts playing lol he has 1k+- viewers, compared to 4k when he plays starcraft2.

looking for much bigger viewership in the future where LoL will explode and overtake esports? (which will never happen cuz it's no esport, just a shitty simple game dumb people and kids like to play cuz it's easy.)


LoL already took over as the biggest esport, the world championship had 500k viewers.. also recently to compare to sc2 at IEM LoL had 170k peek viewers where as sc2 only had 25k viewers.. Also top LoL player streams have way higher viewer counts than sc2... for instance HotshotGG gets around 20k + viewers easily at times just by streaming LoL compared to popular WhiteRa 8k viewers.

sure Destiny will lose some viewers but in the long run if he becomes popular in LoL he will have a much bigger audience. Moving to LoL might upset Destiny's streamviewers (like yourself), but unfortunately for you guys, LoL is the bigger picture for Destiny and is the best move for him.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
February 05 2012 00:46 GMT
#2751
On February 05 2012 09:27 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:54 The Void wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:28 Kring wrote:
The argument he is more interested in lol because of audience numbers is false, because when he starts playing lol he has 1k+- viewers, compared to 4k when he plays starcraft2.

looking for much bigger viewership in the future where LoL will explode and overtake esports? (which will never happen cuz it's no esport, just a shitty simple game dumb people and kids like to play cuz it's easy.)


LoL already took over as the biggest esport, the world championship had 500k viewers.. also recently to compare to sc2 at IEM LoL had 170k peek viewers where as sc2 only had 25k viewers.. Also top LoL player streams have way higher viewer counts than sc2... for instance HotshotGG gets around 20k + viewers easily at times just by streaming LoL compared to popular WhiteRa 8k viewers.

sure Destiny will lose some viewers but in the long run if he becomes popular in LoL he will have a much bigger audience. Moving to LoL might upset Destiny's streamviewers (like yourself), but unfortunately for you guys, LoL is the bigger picture for Destiny and is the best move for him.

Is that what hes actually doing though? Is he actually trying to transition over to being more of a pro LoL player instead of pro SC2?
HolyCrispin
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil10 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 01:01:49
February 05 2012 01:01 GMT
#2752
Have any of you considered the possibility that he enjoys playing LoL, maybe because he thinks the game is great (and as he have said before, he thinks have a large number of possibilities for improvement in a high level), maybe because he likes to chill out from time to time? That he is not ALWAYS thinking how many people are watching or what they want to watch and simply streams while doing something HE wants?

And he has said that he does not enjoy the point where StarCraft 2 is today in the equation mechanics/strategy... If people want to learn how to get better on SC2 by watching a stream, there are many Zergs streaming constantly with a great skill level, and on an entertainment perspective, he has been much more entertaining to watch playing LoL... But hey, that's just my point of view.

Peace out.
"It's all about being humble, really..." - Andi Kravljaca
monKeygee
Profile Joined January 2012
United States4 Posts
February 05 2012 22:46 GMT
#2753
On February 05 2012 09:46 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 09:27 SuperFanBoy wrote:
On January 31 2012 23:54 The Void wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:28 Kring wrote:
The argument he is more interested in lol because of audience numbers is false, because when he starts playing lol he has 1k+- viewers, compared to 4k when he plays starcraft2.

looking for much bigger viewership in the future where LoL will explode and overtake esports? (which will never happen cuz it's no esport, just a shitty simple game dumb people and kids like to play cuz it's easy.)


LoL already took over as the biggest esport, the world championship had 500k viewers.. also recently to compare to sc2 at IEM LoL had 170k peek viewers where as sc2 only had 25k viewers.. Also top LoL player streams have way higher viewer counts than sc2... for instance HotshotGG gets around 20k + viewers easily at times just by streaming LoL compared to popular WhiteRa 8k viewers.

sure Destiny will lose some viewers but in the long run if he becomes popular in LoL he will have a much bigger audience. Moving to LoL might upset Destiny's streamviewers (like yourself), but unfortunately for you guys, LoL is the bigger picture for Destiny and is the best move for him.

Is that what hes actually doing though? Is he actually trying to transition over to being more of a pro LoL player instead of pro SC2?


Destiny doesn't have the option to go pro in LoL, he's nowhere near the level necessary to be a popular streamer among the really large LoL community. I think he's playing LoL often simply because he finds it enjoyable and a nice break from SC2.
^^
Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 23:50:26
February 05 2012 23:42 GMT
#2754
On February 05 2012 09:27 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:54 The Void wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:28 Kring wrote:
The argument he is more interested in lol because of audience numbers is false, because when he starts playing lol he has 1k+- viewers, compared to 4k when he plays starcraft2.

looking for much bigger viewership in the future where LoL will explode and overtake esports? (which will never happen cuz it's no esport, just a shitty simple game dumb people and kids like to play cuz it's easy.)


LoL already took over as the biggest esport, the world championship had 500k viewers.. also recently to compare to sc2 at IEM LoL had 170k peek viewers where as sc2 only had 25k viewers.. Also top LoL player streams have way higher viewer counts than sc2... for instance HotshotGG gets around 20k + viewers easily at times just by streaming LoL compared to popular WhiteRa 8k viewers.

sure Destiny will lose some viewers but in the long run if he becomes popular in LoL he will have a much bigger audience. Moving to LoL might upset Destiny's streamviewers (like yourself), but unfortunately for you guys, LoL is the bigger picture for Destiny and is the best move for him.

SC2 had 75k viewers peak across all streams(as announced by carmac on the stream) at IEM Kiev, don't post false information. LoL did have a lot more though at close to 180k
Korelle
Profile Joined December 2011
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 00:13:14
February 06 2012 00:11 GMT
#2755
On February 05 2012 09:27 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:54 The Void wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:28 Kring wrote:
The argument he is more interested in lol because of audience numbers is false, because when he starts playing lol he has 1k+- viewers, compared to 4k when he plays starcraft2.

looking for much bigger viewership in the future where LoL will explode and overtake esports? (which will never happen cuz it's no esport, just a shitty simple game dumb people and kids like to play cuz it's easy.)


LoL already took over as the biggest esport, the world championship had 500k viewers.. also recently to compare to sc2 at IEM LoL had 170k peek viewers where as sc2 only had 25k viewers.. Also top LoL player streams have way higher viewer counts than sc2... for instance HotshotGG gets around 20k + viewers easily at times just by streaming LoL compared to popular WhiteRa 8k viewers.

sure Destiny will lose some viewers but in the long run if he becomes popular in LoL he will have a much bigger audience. Moving to LoL might upset Destiny's streamviewers (like yourself), but unfortunately for you guys, LoL is the bigger picture for Destiny and is the best move for him.


Comparing IEM viewer counts its pretty damn retarded seeing as IEM is to LoL what MLG is to SC2. IEM is a fairly small event on the SC2 calendar when you consider that even a minor tournament hosted in Take's flat can easily reach 60-70k+ viewers on its main stream alone, a better comparison would be to compare the LoL IEM Stream viewers with the SC2 MLG stream viewers that are pretty much identical, even without SC2 advertising streams in its game client (something that hopefully Blizzard will start doing so SC2 will pull ahead again instead of merely being as popular as LoL).
No idea where you're pulling the 500k viewer number figure out of btw, unless it's out of your ass, however feel free to prove us wrong with sources.

Also the idea that somehow Destiny can "make it big" in LoL when he's clearly horrible at the game at even a mediocre level is laughable, the LoL streaming market is pretty saturated with top players streaming already, especially due to how barren the LoL e-sports calendar is already. Seriously, comparing viewer figures between games is pretty retarded when the top SC2 foreign/korean pros can't stream anywhere near as often due to their busy tournament schedules, unless of course you consider WhiteRa, as much as I love the guy, to be a top player (hint: he isn't).

Even if LoL had overtake SC2 as an e-sport, which it obviously hasn't, Destiny is never going to break into the market for as long as he remains utterly horrible at the game, and considering how his stream viewers are plummeting he might want to consider his options.
anApple
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore275 Posts
February 06 2012 00:58 GMT
#2756
It's as if Destiny isn't having as much fun with SC2 anymore. I mean, just compare what his stream was like a few months back to what it's like now. Of course, maybe he's just focusing more on the game now and taking it more seriously since he joined Quantic.
huehuehue
Trump
Profile Joined April 2010
United States350 Posts
February 06 2012 01:10 GMT
#2757
Dear Destiny (and Destiny fans can pass this along to him!),

I've never played LoL before. Want to team up?
Friendship is Magic! <3
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
February 06 2012 01:16 GMT
#2758
Found this on reddit: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1551/loldestiny.jpg

Apparently he thinks LoL requires more skill than sc2 o.o.....and winning GSL apparently doesn`t mean much haha. I can`t say I agree though...




HolyCrispin
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil10 Posts
February 06 2012 14:27 GMT
#2759
On February 06 2012 10:16 mango_destroyer wrote:
Found this on reddit: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1551/loldestiny.jpg

Apparently he thinks LoL requires more skill than sc2 o.o.....and winning GSL apparently doesn`t mean much haha. I can`t say I agree though...






I don't agree with him, but I understand his point of view, I personally disagree on the matter that LoL requires more direct individual skill, as it is strategically a team game, even more than DotA or HoN... Although I do think that on high level, to accomplish this sense of team strategy, it requires a lot more thinking when comparing it to SC2.

His main criticism upon StarCraft 2, which I agree with, is that the game is not evolving in strategy, neither has much room to do so in the current stage of development, we surely have to take in consideration the fact that having 2 more expansions on the way, it's obvious that WoL will have it's flaws... But again, I agree with him that it has become a game much more focused on the mechanics... Leaving strategy itself as a secondary tool.
"It's all about being humble, really..." - Andi Kravljaca
retardstrong
Profile Joined December 2010
United States46 Posts
February 07 2012 04:06 GMT
#2760
I think Destiny is upset because he hasn't been able to reach the level he wanted in sc2. He's hit a wall where he isn't improving and losing to the same thing over and over. Perhaps his skill roof isn't as high as other pro players and this is causing him to become even more angry. He isn't putting enough time into the game to be a pro at it and personally I see him as a pro streamer more than a pro sc2 player.

The GSL code S players are actually putting in tons of hours each day for practice and their mechanics are miles ahead of destiny's. Watching MVP stream playing terran was totally insane. He was on another level. He even played zerg and absolutely crushed. Destiny is giving up if he wanted to be a pro sc2 player and If i was running quantic I'd be seriously upset with his actions as of late.
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