EPTOn June 23 2012 05:04 Brow23 wrote:
Last time germany lost in penalties was like 1934 ....
Last time germany lost in penalties was like 1934 ....
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Germany vs Greece - Quarterfinal 2 - Page 26
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Espelz
Germany826 Posts
On June 23 2012 21:04 CoR wrote: podolski is btw a GREAT winger normaly ... no see point to flame him at all Hell yeah ! I always thought he does a great job (at least regarding his performances in the national team, its a lot harder to look good when you play for cologne :D). One thing that I really like with podolski in the national team is his great defensive work, when its needed. He is just an overall really good player who fits well into Löws overall plan. | ||
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Retric
Germany284 Posts
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JoelB
Germany311 Posts
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
On June 23 2012 23:04 JoelB wrote: Thank you José Mourinho for turning two very good players into absolute world class. Cannot even believe how good Khedira has become (Top 3 easily) and although Özil can play alot better i still believe he will shine again like he does in madrid sooner or later (especially without Gomez). In Germany many people said that they would not stand a chance in Madrid and would just sit on the bench. Eat it and Buuurrrn! :D Khedira plays slightly better and Özil plays slightly worse than in the Worldcup 2010 so far. Both played really well back then, so I don't think you have to thank Mourinho for any improvement, only for the fact that he didn't put them on the bench. | ||
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JoelB
Germany311 Posts
On June 24 2012 00:11 vdale wrote: Khedira plays slightly better and Özil plays slightly worse than in the Worldcup 2010 so far. Both played really well back then, so I don't think you have to thank Mourinho for any improvement, only for the fact that he didn't put them on the bench. Well Khedira has become alot more mature in his play i feel ... he is not "just" a solid defensive midfielder anymore | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On June 23 2012 21:24 Rebs wrote: His point is that despite playing as badly as you say he did he still affected more goals and played a more instrumental part in running the game offensively than anyone else on the pitch. So what if its Greece. Its a quarterfinalist team that was sitting 1-1 at some point. Take it seriously and give him credit. People so hard to please. Literally the summary here.. Ozil is sucking because ... A) Greece sucks, playing well against them is meaningless because he missed a shot or 2. That should laikkkk never happen. Way to disrespect an opponent. They may not have the same quality as you but they are still worth their salt and their place in the knockouts. B) Being better than Greek players is worthless. addendum to A. C) He plays in Spain and they give you special "whine at referee" classes.(paraphrasing) rather than practice football. I can see how hes off 100 percent. Its very clear to me based on that. (Hes not playing his best sure, but that doesnt mean hes not doing well). I never said he played bad wtf. Read before make such a comment. I know Özil waaay better than you. Yes, sounds arrogant but that's a fact cause I'm german and a fan of Werder Bremen where he played before going to Real. That's why I know what he's able of doing on the pitch. He played average for his skills. I didn't discredit Greece. I said they played a good tournament. But all the other teams which are still in are better. If you think that's not true...I can't help you. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 24 2012 01:09 KiNGxXx wrote: I never said he played bad wtf. Read before make such a comment. I know Özil waaay better than you. Yes, sounds arrogant but that's a fact cause I'm german and a fan of Werder Bremen where he played before going to Real. That's why I know what he's able of doing on the pitch. He played average for his skills. I didn't discredit Greece. I said they played a good tournament. But all the other teams which are still in are better. If you think that's not true...I can't help you. Perhaps that was a poor choice of words. My bad, you can just replace that with 'if hes not playing as well as your saying he is'. Same idea really. I dont think it was an average performance at all. It was a very good performance. He looked pretty good to me he had some poor moments but again this expectation that he needed to absolutely destroy Greece or theres no way he can do well against other teams is pretty farcical. He played upto a level that was needed. So did Germany and theres so many intangibles when it comes to opponents and theres different ways to play against them. Other teams are better than Greece, yes but its not like they are neccesarily harder nuts to crack. (Sureplaying from behind they arent a good team and it became easier. Everyone knows that) Which is his primary responsibility. And he and the Germans in general did it well, and they played as well as Ive seen them play. Chances get missed, people make mistakes thats the nature of the game and of a footballer. Point is the scoreline tells you they took some. Otherwise 8-9 scorelines would be a regular occurrence. Its not as easy as it looks even for them. Its just nitpicking to look for stuff like that on what was a really really good game. Whether the reason be dislike or arrogance its just meh.. a poor way to put it. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
On June 24 2012 02:01 Da-Muffinman wrote: ^ I don't know what this "Deutchland" is so I am ok with that. Get rid of the "e" and u have it  | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On June 24 2012 01:41 Rebs wrote: Perhaps that was a poor choice of words. My bad, you can just replace that with 'if hes not playing as well as your saying he is'. Same idea really. I dont think it was an average performance at all. It was a very good performance. He looked pretty good to me he had some poor moments but again this expectation that he needed to absolutely destroy Greece or theres no way he can do well against other teams is pretty farcical. He played upto a level that was needed. So did Germany and theres so many intangibles when it comes to opponents and theres different ways to play against them. Dont sweat it, he's a typical german who needs to critizise to feel good. Fact of the matter is, Özil was good. Except some crackerbarrel-nationaltrainers, almost everyone is saying that Özil did well. And yes, he did. The worst "grade" (we tend to give grades to our players after matches) he received was a 3. Mostly you just see 1,5 - 2. Which is good in every way. And thats from people who "know" Özil even better than he does (journalists, other players etc). To be blunt, there were just two "underachieving" players, which were Schweinsteiger, and sadly, Schürrle. Yes he did not fail in his role, but neither was he dangerous, nor really relevant. But they are not bad players, they just had a bad match (well in case of Schürrle, i guess his nerves and inexperience are more of an explanation). Boateng kinda brainfarted at the 1-1, but he made it up with the flank to Khedira. All in all, they showed good football, i feel proud for that team (and that match). Yes, there was a phase in which we slipped, we got punished for it (1-1) - and woke up again. Its actually really sad that Müller in a pressconference said "i guess, even if we take the whole tournament, we (the team) still have to be ashamed for our work". Not exactly quoted, just out of my head. And it is. Alot of criticism, after almost every game.. Kinda not deserved for a team that won 15 competetive games in a row (world record broken against greece). Leave beautiful football up to spain and brazil and whatnot, dont care if we dont look as good as a ballet-dancing team as long as we win. And we do. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18558 Posts
On June 23 2012 20:49 don_kyuhote wrote: German coach Loew is hilarious. ''Greece is a curious team. They had one chance and scored two goals,'' Germany coach Joachim Loew said. ''But we didn't get nervous after 1-1, and the goals came.'' That made my day haha I don't feel that way at all. I think Loew's opinion about Greece was very disrespecting. He also said that Greece made 3 goals from only 3 chances in their group stage matches. This is so not true and pretty insulting to a team who has fought back so hard after being behind in their matches, Greece created a lot of opportunities, even against Germany (with the help of Schweinsteiger and Badstuber). | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On June 24 2012 00:55 JoelB wrote: Well Khedira has become alot more mature in his play i feel ... he is not "just" a solid defensive midfielder anymore Have to agree. Khedira has seen a lot of growth at Madrid, he has become such an amazing all-round player. It helps being one of Mourinho's favorite players  | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
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elagrion
Ukraine422 Posts
On June 24 2012 03:07 sharkie wrote: I don't feel that way at all. I think Loew's opinion about Greece was very disrespecting. He also said that Greece made 3 goals from only 3 chances in their group stage matches. This is so not true and pretty insulting to a team who has fought back so hard after being behind in their matches, Greece created a lot of opportunities, even against Germany (with the help of Schweinsteiger and Badstuber). You know, a team that will always score 3 goals out of 3 chances will be freaking great =). | ||
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
On June 24 2012 01:56 Steveling wrote: Dunno if it was posted already but I chuckled quite a bit so here it is Hmm i'd rather be a barbarian then some little boy lover. | ||
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