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On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote: Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair). After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)
F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens
This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.
TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.
You must be kiding right .... pls its obvious why ppl abused 200-300 points means difference from Q3 to Q2 and Q2 to Q1.
You could still play tons of koreans like white-ra idra ret and so much other players.
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dimaga too? ugh.. Who didn't abuse is what i want to know
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"getting wins in an irregular way", thats cute, Reason :D Your excuse attempt is nothing but condescending, pretentious and preposterous, downright ridiculous with what i just quoted. Very disrespectfull all in all, gtfo.
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On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote: Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair). After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)
F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens
This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.
TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.
Finally someones coming out with some reasoning! I can see your point, but I cant agree with you. The rules might have been a disadvantage for you and the DQd-Players, but I cant see how this allows you to BREAK RULES! Many modern maps help Zerg -> this does not give Ps the right break rules.
You could have protested or avoided the tournament. And as you said you had fun without cheating. Why did you not keep it to it? You had to cheat to get a grab at the money? Money really spoiled you man! Its not your to make the rules how to get the money. The rules didnt favour you - bad luck. The world is not shaped by our wishes. You seem to have stopped playing SC for fun. About time you quit imho.
Its sad you cant even give a genuine excuse to the players you cheated on and even blame them...
Finally at least Yosh, A2, Dimaga (dont know about the others) had been well in the top48 and cheated to get even higher. If the low ranks are all Dodgers you could have taken em on in the Q1, Q2s where they can no longer dodge. That would have been your time to shine.
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btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less.
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On December 14 2009 02:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less.
lol
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On December 14 2009 02:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less.
is the #1 spot taken?
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On December 14 2009 02:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less.
priceless
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On December 14 2009 02:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less. Hahaha! :D
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On December 14 2009 02:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less. yes! perhaps tonight i don't have to cut my self
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On December 14 2009 02:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: btw I am currently accepting all fans who are now idol-less.
sold
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On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote: Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair). After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)
F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens
This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.
TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.
if you're so good then play koreans? they dont know who you are...
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All my favorite players got disqualified.
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Why do all these good players have to go and abuse themselves out of the tournament. Also I thought it was announced you would look at IPs when the ladder started, so they should have known it wouldn't work.
edit: I think I can safely say f*** Reason, if he thought he was at a disadvantage he could have applied to smurf, his defense is clearly only trying to take advantage of all the other greedy players that cheated in order to seem justified.
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On December 14 2009 02:32 SCC-Faust wrote:All my favorite players got disqualified.  Worry not, see above!
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What was the reasoning behind the absolutely no smurf rule? Why not allow them to smurf, but send their real IDs to TL admin?
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reason -.-
1. If you believe that your chances of qualifying will be severely hampered by using your real I.D. you may contact a TSL staff member to apply for an exemption.
2. dude play other top players ? kolll mondragon white-ra strelok etc would never dodge you and just the fact u scare play them and want noobs who scare you ... u see ? just play everyone
or 3. play vs koreans they not even know you xD
white-ra did too xD
ps: wow white-ra seems finding ALWAYS an enemey xD
i hate such stupid reasons ... i was so happy see you back and hoped u doing well and then THIS ... n/c
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Who needs soap operas when there's teamliquid? This is high drama.
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On December 14 2009 02:35 Scooge wrote: What was the reasoning behind the absolutely no smurf rule? Why not allow them to smurf, but send their real IDs to TL admin?
I'm not sure.
One thing is for sure though, it would be extremely boring from a bystander/supporters point of view to see the ladder full of nothing but "an3jna4", "rn3larjalnr", "rlanan35" and so on.
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