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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7820 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 16:49:52
December 13 2009 16:49 GMT
#241
lol Stylish Idra didn't say anything wrong are you being serious? He called him no one and is totally right... it's not insulting..
EDIT: Not to insult you, im just saying.. it's not really that clear cut. Maybe just let it go
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 13 2009 16:54 GMT
#242
This keeps getting sadder and sadder lol...
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 13 2009 16:54 GMT
#243
On December 14 2009 01:49 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol Stylish Idra didn't say anything wrong are you being serious? He called him no one and is totally right... it's not insulting..
EDIT: Not to insult you, im just saying.. it's not really that clear cut. Maybe just let it go


Yeh, it was pretty baseless start to the "argument", and he even threw in a social skills stab for no apparent reason.
sAviOr...
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2009 16:54 GMT
#244
On December 14 2009 01:46 IdrA wrote:
that you say one thing and then say another when you realize that you were an idiot, and then repeat until the person you're talking to gets tired of you?
yes i should have gotten that long ago.


uhm?

1. you make a comment.
2. the guy thinks you're bming him.
3. i tell you why since you obviously didn't notice.
4. you explain why it wasnt bm.
5. i explain why it could be understood as bm.
6. you bm me.
7. I tell you your social skills are bad.
8. You counter this by telling me you're better in TvT.
9. I try to keep it to the matter discussed.
10. you think suddenly I didn't understand your point.
11. I get tired of explaining to you.
12. random bad mannered rant.

According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2009 16:56 GMT
#245
On December 14 2009 01:54 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 01:49 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol Stylish Idra didn't say anything wrong are you being serious? He called him no one and is totally right... it's not insulting..
EDIT: Not to insult you, im just saying.. it's not really that clear cut. Maybe just let it go


Yeh, it was pretty baseless start to the "argument", and he even threw in a social skills stab for no apparent reason.


I said it could be understood as name calling. Given Idras background of being bad mannered.
I only threw in the social skills part after he avoided my point and said that i shouldn't be posting.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 13 2009 16:58 GMT
#246
He probably knows it is, but no matter how bad manner it seems, what he said was the truth, and it wasn't said in that bad of a way, at least idra didn't mean it to anger him. If it was worded in a different way with the same meaning, no one would have spoken. (I.E someone with no experience vs them)
sAviOr...
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2009 17:00 GMT
#247
On December 14 2009 01:58 Camlito wrote:
He probably knows it is, but no matter how bad manner it seems, what he said was the truth, and it wasn't said in that bad of a way, at least idra didn't mean it to anger him. If it was worded in a different way with the same meaning, no one would have spoken. (I.E someone with no experience vs them)


Exactly.
I didn't start out insulting idra, and I never meant to get into an arguement with him.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
dshsdhk
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)61 Posts
December 13 2009 17:02 GMT
#248
Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair).
After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)

F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens

This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.

TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 17:10:10
December 13 2009 17:03 GMT
#249
Oh, there go two more players I was hoping to see.

I wonder if these players simply admitted this, if they would've been allowed to stay in. What a disappointment. Especially DIMAGA.

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m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
December 13 2009 17:06 GMT
#250
DIMAGA NO!!!
White-Ra fighting!
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
December 13 2009 17:07 GMT
#251
On December 14 2009 00:47 StylishVODs wrote:
Wow 11 people? Sadens me


You did the exact same abuse they did.. just not in the TSL
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 13 2009 17:10 GMT
#252
On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote:
Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair).
After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)

F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens

This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.

TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.


If it works for players like White-ra, Idra, Ret, Mondragon etc. it works for everyone because they are without a doubt the most famous players right now. It's sad that you don't have enough time to find games but that's the way it is and you can't blame the system for that.
We make signature, then defense it.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 17:14:32
December 13 2009 17:12 GMT
#253
On December 14 2009 02:07 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:47 StylishVODs wrote:
Wow 11 people? Sadens me


You did the exact same abuse they did.. just not in the TSL


...or any other tournament where it mattered to anyone.
Two different things in my mind.

1. Abuse on iccup which doesn't mean anything to anyone.

2. Abuse in a tournament where other people suffer.

It's really not the same thing. I would never abuse in a tournament, even if it wasn't money involved. Believe me, with all the smurfs I have, I had plenty of opportunity to give points to people but I didn't.

I tried to show people that my skill was A- and didn't have time to play and felt preassured to do so. This season I had time to play and now I have 3 A- accs and one soon A- which means that I didn't even try to fool anyone.
iccup

You don't agree to some extent?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
December 13 2009 17:12 GMT
#254
And thus the ridiculous excuses and justification attempts have begun
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 13 2009 17:12 GMT
#255
On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote:
Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair).
After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)

F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens

This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.

TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.


No smurfing. For most players aiming to qualify for the TSL, there will be no doubt as to which ID to use. If you are unsure, use your most recognizable ID or your forum username. If you believe that your chances of qualifying will be severely hampered by using your real I.D. you may contact a TSL staff member to apply for an exemption.


A...huh. Alright.
@KawaiiRiceLighT
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
December 13 2009 17:14 GMT
#256
On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote:
Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair).
After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)

F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens

This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.

TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.

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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
December 13 2009 17:15 GMT
#257
On December 14 2009 02:12 KawaiiRice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote:
Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair).
After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)

F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens

This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.

TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.


Show nested quote +
No smurfing. For most players aiming to qualify for the TSL, there will be no doubt as to which ID to use. If you are unsure, use your most recognizable ID or your forum username. If you believe that your chances of qualifying will be severely hampered by using your real I.D. you may contact a TSL staff member to apply for an exemption.


A...huh. Alright.


Exactly, that post already failed in its first sentence
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 13 2009 17:17 GMT
#258
On December 14 2009 01:54 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 01:46 IdrA wrote:
that you say one thing and then say another when you realize that you were an idiot, and then repeat until the person you're talking to gets tired of you?
yes i should have gotten that long ago.


uhm?

1. you make a comment.
2. the guy thinks you're bming him.
3. i tell you why since you obviously didn't notice.
4. you explain why it wasnt bm.
5. i explain why it could be understood as bm.
6. you bm me.
7. I tell you your social skills are bad.
8. You counter this by telling me you're better in TvT.
9. I try to keep it to the matter discussed.
10. you think suddenly I didn't understand your point.
11. I get tired of explaining to you.
12. random bad mannered rant.



lol made my day xD
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
December 13 2009 17:17 GMT
#259
On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote:
Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair).
After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)

F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens

This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.

TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.

TSL 2 wasn't hurt very much by the disqualifications of the people who couldn't have made it into the top 48 without abusing. In other words, we're not going to miss Vasilisk, Riborobo, etc.

It *was* hurt by the disqualifications of the people who were very far up the ladder when they were disqualified, but you can hardly blame the TSL rules for that. Those disqualifications would have happened with or without the "no smurfing" rule.

I understand that you're taking partial responsibility, but it really appears that you're trying to shift any blame that you can onto people other than yourself.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
December 13 2009 17:17 GMT
#260
On December 14 2009 02:02 dshsdhk wrote:
Well, I'm ReasoN and I'm posting to clarify one thing, that TSL2 could have been one of the best online events of all time, if there weren't some extremely idiot rules, like forbidding smurfs, obviously the talented and famous players had a disvantage , especially those who were able to get excellent stats, and we, that did that, were praticaly dodged and ignored of the ladder, just in the most important fase (B+, A- above), with that we were unable or delayed pretty bad of getting a better rank (i didnt have 6hours per day to find people to play), and our unique solution would be playing with koreans (and that woudlnt be fair).
After spending hours trying to get games and being dodged and ignored by 99% of players, we got really in despair, and without thinking of the consequences we try to get some wins in a irregular way, which really hasn't changed anything in my situation (and the other tops that did the same). I even had classified myself by my own merits even without those wins. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that what we did was right, we did shit, but in my point of view, many of the other players had done too, like avoiding players with good stats, or spamming games on just one matchup like i saw some guys doing. (B+ A- only zerg msg for example...)

F91, Yosh, A2, Dimaga, ReasoN, Sarens

This list shows the total TSL2 fail in these requirements, players in this category with 80%++ win percentage with indisputable level were obligated to cheat for moving up in rank, because they were getting hard time to find games, u guys should reflect on what happend in this TSL2, and improve the rules for the next one, im retired since 2007 and i just came back to play this last tournament before quit this game definitely, sad that this shit had to happen, at least i had great time beating some players that are pretty active and who thinks that they are TOPS, and then they get raped by a retired player, i can quit this game satisfacted, peace all.

TSL2 = DODGER LADDER, congrats to the dodgers, they succeeded.

Judging from your list of games you've been doing a fair ammount of dodging yourself. Regarding "beating the tops"... you havnt even played a single one of them.
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