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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 13 2009 15:44 GMT
#201
On December 14 2009 00:40 purgerinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:37 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:34 purgerinho wrote:
a2 is top3 foreign terran, it's a fact


IdrA, Strelok, Brat_Ok, ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

A2.



Yes you are right. A2 is definitely top 3 foreign Terran.

Genius.


a2 is better than strelok so is brat_ok



In your opinion yeah that's fine with me because it is your opinion after all. Let's not turn this into a "Who do you think are the best top foreigners today?" thread because there are many of those.

They get boring and tedious because we'll never agree.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
CoL_Drake
Profile Joined March 2005
Germany455 Posts
December 13 2009 15:44 GMT
#202
dimaga yosh a2 f91 reason sarens

are they all stupid ?
NFL2368
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States112 Posts
December 13 2009 15:44 GMT
#203
dimaga...

why did you abuse why?

idra and ret both said you could easily qualify with your insane mechanics alone

why???
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
December 13 2009 15:44 GMT
#204
holy crap, I thought there would just be fairly unknown players that chose to abuse the ladder but this is just... I'm lost for words. but right should be right and good job TSL staff (and iCCup staff aswell I assume)
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 13 2009 15:45 GMT
#205
On December 14 2009 00:40 bEsT[Alive] wrote:

I'll end it at that.

lol just click "post"
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
December 13 2009 15:46 GMT
#206
On December 14 2009 00:44 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:40 purgerinho wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:37 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:34 purgerinho wrote:
a2 is top3 foreign terran, it's a fact


IdrA, Strelok, Brat_Ok, ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

A2.



Yes you are right. A2 is definitely top 3 foreign Terran.

Genius.


a2 is better than strelok so is brat_ok



In your opinion yeah that's fine with me because it is your opinion after all. Let's not turn this into a "Who do you think are the best top foreigners today?" thread because there are many of those.

They get boring and tedious because we'll never agree.


that's true, it is "battle of opinions" but to stop it just look what every of this players made in their history.. strelok is great, really great but i would put brat_ok at 2nd and a2 at 3rd place..
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 13 2009 15:47 GMT
#207
On December 14 2009 00:43 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:40 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:34 IdrA wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:31 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:14 IdrA wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:56 samachking wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:51 Substandard wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:45 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:42 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:40 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Well, on the bright side none of the guys who got caught (with the lone exception being F91 ofc -__-) would have won this tournament anyway. Are they capable of doing damage and pulling an upset? Of course they are, but they wouldn't win all the mullah anyway and many of them know this already.


Are you insane? A2 could've won this


Let me repeat this for you one more time.

No, he wouldn't of.


Uh, wtf are you talking about, A2 and Dimaga imho are among the top 10 foreigners and both had a real shot at winning this.


yes 2nd'd
Dimaga is the 2nd best foreign Zerg and A2 is the 3rd best foreign T(ffs he took 1 game off JD)
Saying they have no chance just shows that you are completely clueless about the foreign scene. Sure Idra has a better chance, but these 2 have just as good a chance as Ret considering his ZvZ.

hes not the third best foreign t and neither of them had an appreciable chance of winning the whole thing, certainly not as good as ret's. dimaga is very good yes, and its not inconceivable that he could win, but it would be a very large long shot. rets zvz isnt as good as his other matchups but hes still not an underdog vs any foreign z, especially with f91 out of the picture, while dimaga would be the underdog vs at least a handful, and 50/50 vs quite a few others.


Im taking a wild guess you're putting yourself as #1 foreign T.

But honestly if you dont include yourself, who is better than A2? He's better than Strelok,Artosis,Morrow,Brat(?),Tarson and any other non-chinese or korean terran i can think of. Yosh might be better but i dont really think so.

The only foreigners i could think A2 would be the underdog vs is You and Ret


id put nyoken brat and gosi[terran] over him, and then group him with strelok and some others i dont know well enough to really distinguish. i actually havent seen yosh play a game in a year and a half but id imagine hes at least as good, dont really know though.


There's no way imo that Gosi[Terran] is above A2, i dont know much about Nyoken but i know he's really good.

i have never understood this. you are no one, youve never played these people and you dont know enough about starcraft to actually analyze their play on any level. i have played all of them and gosi[terran] is significantly better than a2 in just about every aspect of the game. how are you trying to argue that with me?


Probably because everyone around here has a superiority complex Greg. o:

It's just a pile of nonsense. People like arguing for the sake of arguing.

Looking forward to you, ret, Draco amongst others ripping it up in January.


If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2009 15:47 GMT
#208
Wow 11 people? Sadens me
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
December 13 2009 15:53 GMT
#209
On December 14 2009 00:43 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:40 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:34 IdrA wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:31 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:14 IdrA wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:56 samachking wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:51 Substandard wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:45 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:42 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:40 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Well, on the bright side none of the guys who got caught (with the lone exception being F91 ofc -__-) would have won this tournament anyway. Are they capable of doing damage and pulling an upset? Of course they are, but they wouldn't win all the mullah anyway and many of them know this already.


Are you insane? A2 could've won this


Let me repeat this for you one more time.

No, he wouldn't of.


Uh, wtf are you talking about, A2 and Dimaga imho are among the top 10 foreigners and both had a real shot at winning this.


yes 2nd'd
Dimaga is the 2nd best foreign Zerg and A2 is the 3rd best foreign T(ffs he took 1 game off JD)
Saying they have no chance just shows that you are completely clueless about the foreign scene. Sure Idra has a better chance, but these 2 have just as good a chance as Ret considering his ZvZ.

hes not the third best foreign t and neither of them had an appreciable chance of winning the whole thing, certainly not as good as ret's. dimaga is very good yes, and its not inconceivable that he could win, but it would be a very large long shot. rets zvz isnt as good as his other matchups but hes still not an underdog vs any foreign z, especially with f91 out of the picture, while dimaga would be the underdog vs at least a handful, and 50/50 vs quite a few others.


Im taking a wild guess you're putting yourself as #1 foreign T.

But honestly if you dont include yourself, who is better than A2? He's better than Strelok,Artosis,Morrow,Brat(?),Tarson and any other non-chinese or korean terran i can think of. Yosh might be better but i dont really think so.

The only foreigners i could think A2 would be the underdog vs is You and Ret


id put nyoken brat and gosi[terran] over him, and then group him with strelok and some others i dont know well enough to really distinguish. i actually havent seen yosh play a game in a year and a half but id imagine hes at least as good, dont really know though.


There's no way imo that Gosi[Terran] is above A2, i dont know much about Nyoken but i know he's really good.

i have never understood this. you are no one, youve never played these people and you dont know enough about starcraft to actually analyze their play on any level. i have played all of them and gosi[terran] is significantly better than a2 in just about every aspect of the game. how are you trying to argue that with me?


By pure results? Im not saying im better then you at analyzing their play and i havent played either A2 or Terran. There is no need for name-calling just because i think A2 > Terran
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 13 2009 15:56 GMT
#210
you said "better than" not "more accomplished than"
i also didnt call you any names
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2009 15:58 GMT
#211
On December 14 2009 00:56 IdrA wrote:
you said "better than" not "more accomplished than"
i also didnt call you any names


I guess he's referring to "You are no one". Which was abit over the top imo. Sure he's not as accomplished as you are in the bw scene but still...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 13 2009 16:00 GMT
#212
HAHA GET OUT OF HERE ABUSERS
TSL KNOWS ALL
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 13 2009 16:00 GMT
#213
On December 14 2009 00:58 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:56 IdrA wrote:
you said "better than" not "more accomplished than"
i also didnt call you any names


I guess he's referring to "You are no one". Which was abit over the top imo. Sure he's not as accomplished as you are in the bw scene but still...

thats not really an insult, he is no one as in he doesnt participate in tournaments or leagues or anything and has no experience with the players hes trying to judge
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
December 13 2009 16:01 GMT
#214
Fuck sake, i was looking forward to seeing Dimaga play
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 13 2009 16:01 GMT
#215
On December 14 2009 00:58 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:56 IdrA wrote:
you said "better than" not "more accomplished than"
i also didnt call you any names


Sure he's not as accomplished as you are in the bw scene but still...


I honestly hope that's not what he was implying because that would mean only Ret would be allowed to speculate because he's the best player right now.
We make signature, then defense it.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2009 16:03 GMT
#216
On December 14 2009 01:00 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:58 StylishVODs wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:56 IdrA wrote:
you said "better than" not "more accomplished than"
i also didnt call you any names


I guess he's referring to "You are no one". Which was abit over the top imo. Sure he's not as accomplished as you are in the bw scene but still...

thats not really an insult, he is no one as in he doesnt participate in tournaments or leagues or anything and has no experience with the players hes trying to judge


You should probably have frased it "you are no one to judge this matter" or something like that. The other might seem insulting since it can be understood as "you are no one in general" which is pretty harsh.

Anyway it's not my arguement...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 13 2009 16:04 GMT
#217
well then perhaps you shouldnt be posting
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2009 16:04 GMT
#218
On December 14 2009 01:01 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:58 StylishVODs wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:56 IdrA wrote:
you said "better than" not "more accomplished than"
i also didnt call you any names


Sure he's not as accomplished as you are in the bw scene but still...


I honestly hope that's not what he was implying because that would mean only Ret would be allowed to speculate because he's the best player right now.


haha i was referring to pulimuli;)
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 16:06:26
December 13 2009 16:06 GMT
#219
On December 14 2009 01:04 IdrA wrote:
well then perhaps you shouldnt be posting


Well someone have to tell you about your bad social skills when you obviously cant see them.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
December 13 2009 16:06 GMT
#220
On December 14 2009 00:47 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:43 IdrA wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:40 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:34 IdrA wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:31 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 14 2009 00:14 IdrA wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:56 samachking wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:51 Substandard wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:45 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:42 Pulimuli wrote:
[quote]

Are you insane? A2 could've won this


Let me repeat this for you one more time.

No, he wouldn't of.


Uh, wtf are you talking about, A2 and Dimaga imho are among the top 10 foreigners and both had a real shot at winning this.


yes 2nd'd
Dimaga is the 2nd best foreign Zerg and A2 is the 3rd best foreign T(ffs he took 1 game off JD)
Saying they have no chance just shows that you are completely clueless about the foreign scene. Sure Idra has a better chance, but these 2 have just as good a chance as Ret considering his ZvZ.

hes not the third best foreign t and neither of them had an appreciable chance of winning the whole thing, certainly not as good as ret's. dimaga is very good yes, and its not inconceivable that he could win, but it would be a very large long shot. rets zvz isnt as good as his other matchups but hes still not an underdog vs any foreign z, especially with f91 out of the picture, while dimaga would be the underdog vs at least a handful, and 50/50 vs quite a few others.


Im taking a wild guess you're putting yourself as #1 foreign T.

But honestly if you dont include yourself, who is better than A2? He's better than Strelok,Artosis,Morrow,Brat(?),Tarson and any other non-chinese or korean terran i can think of. Yosh might be better but i dont really think so.

The only foreigners i could think A2 would be the underdog vs is You and Ret


id put nyoken brat and gosi[terran] over him, and then group him with strelok and some others i dont know well enough to really distinguish. i actually havent seen yosh play a game in a year and a half but id imagine hes at least as good, dont really know though.


There's no way imo that Gosi[Terran] is above A2, i dont know much about Nyoken but i know he's really good.

i have never understood this. you are no one, youve never played these people and you dont know enough about starcraft to actually analyze their play on any level. i have played all of them and gosi[terran] is significantly better than a2 in just about every aspect of the game. how are you trying to argue that with me?


Probably because everyone around here has a superiority complex Greg. o:



Lol the irony
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