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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 13 2009 14:45 GMT
#161
On December 13 2009 23:42 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 23:40 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Well, on the bright side none of the guys who got caught (with the lone exception being F91 ofc -__-) would have won this tournament anyway. Are they capable of doing damage and pulling an upset? Of course they are, but they wouldn't win all the mullah anyway and many of them know this already.


Are you insane? A2 could've won this


Let me repeat this for you one more time.

No, he wouldn't of.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
December 13 2009 14:51 GMT
#162
On December 13 2009 23:45 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 23:42 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:40 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Well, on the bright side none of the guys who got caught (with the lone exception being F91 ofc -__-) would have won this tournament anyway. Are they capable of doing damage and pulling an upset? Of course they are, but they wouldn't win all the mullah anyway and many of them know this already.


Are you insane? A2 could've won this


Let me repeat this for you one more time.

No, he wouldn't of.


Uh, wtf are you talking about, A2 and Dimaga imho are among the top 10 foreigners and both had a real shot at winning this.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
December 13 2009 14:53 GMT
#163
so are gonna see their rep packs??????

lol
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 14:56:11
December 13 2009 14:55 GMT
#164
On December 13 2009 23:51 Substandard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 23:45 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:42 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:40 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Well, on the bright side none of the guys who got caught (with the lone exception being F91 ofc -__-) would have won this tournament anyway. Are they capable of doing damage and pulling an upset? Of course they are, but they wouldn't win all the mullah anyway and many of them know this already.


Are you insane? A2 could've won this


Let me repeat this for you one more time.

No, he wouldn't of.


Uh, wtf are you talking about, A2 and Dimaga imho are among the top 10 foreigners and both had a real shot at winning this.

Don't argue with him. HE KNOWS FOR SURE who will win the tournament. His knowledge of foreign scene is UNIVERSAL and ALL-EMBRACING.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 14:57:06
December 13 2009 14:56 GMT
#165
On December 13 2009 23:51 Substandard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 23:45 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:42 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:40 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Well, on the bright side none of the guys who got caught (with the lone exception being F91 ofc -__-) would have won this tournament anyway. Are they capable of doing damage and pulling an upset? Of course they are, but they wouldn't win all the mullah anyway and many of them know this already.


Are you insane? A2 could've won this


Let me repeat this for you one more time.

No, he wouldn't of.


Uh, wtf are you talking about, A2 and Dimaga imho are among the top 10 foreigners and both had a real shot at winning this.


yes 2nd'd
Dimaga is the 2nd best foreign Zerg and A2 is the 3rd best foreign T(ffs he took 1 game off JD)
Saying they have no chance just shows that you are completely clueless about the foreign scene. Sure Idra has a better chance, but these 2 have just as good a chance as Ret considering his ZvZ.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
December 13 2009 15:00 GMT
#166
You know what else sucks?

With all the abusers gone, the line will be probably drawn so much lower than 9700+ that it is now. However, some people thought they should be trying more and decided to "gamble" a few more games hoing to get some (unneeded as it seems eventually) extra points.

For example Lz is now sitting 9110 cause he saw that his 9600+ would not be enough. Now even with all the abusers gone he might still not make it. And he's just an example, I'm sure there are more people screwed by this whole thing.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
December 13 2009 15:01 GMT
#167
We should just wait for the players to say they have to say.
Until then, im not saying anything .
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 15:03:02
December 13 2009 15:01 GMT
#168
On December 13 2009 23:29 iSCd wrote:
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On December 13 2009 21:36 NgS.DIMAGA wrote:
FUCKED UP :D SHiT HAPPEND xD
sorry guys about that, its really stupid think i do ^_^ Good Luck to all players TSL !


Is this really DIMAGAs answer or just some troll?
I refuse to believe this is what he has to say in this case!

This guy is not like 14years old afaik - those smileys are just retarded!
The F91 answer did at least show some backbone - even though it might be Ash to honor for that...

I really hope i am not rageing on some troll post...


The man registered on TL in 2004, I can't imagine someone got that account only to use it for a troll 5 years later ^^
So strange though, he always seemed like such a cooly guy
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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 15:11:15
December 13 2009 15:02 GMT
#169
Coming from you that means very little to me. I was good friends with several of the top coaches and managers. I've been to many a clan war and I'm telling you these guys wouldn't win this tournament. A2 and Dimaga might have made the top 16, or Round of 8 but they most certainly wouldn't win it. I am very familar with both of their styles and I know what potential they have. For example, A2's Terran has always been very suspect against Zerg. Ret has a ridiculously good record against him. Right about now, I would start talking about F91 as A2 and F91 were teammates on MYM., but it's irrelevant because F91 already got caught.

Now then substandard, exactly who are you to say these guys would actually win it? Matter of fact, did you even say that. No, you didn't. All you said is they would reach the top ten. Did I dismiss that? NO. Now, ask yourself the question again? Would these two players win the entire thing? Simple answer: NO. They are long shots.

Verbatim: NO. They would not win this tournament.

EDIT: Bifur, coming from you that means little to me. Don't take what I said out of context. I know A2 almost as well as you and just because you are his countryman (we know you Russians have a great sense of pride, you don't have to preach it) and fought many a war with him doesn't mean you can negate facts. He hasn't played solidly in a while. Hell, the kid has been on and off for ages. When he's on his A game he is a very, very good player but no one other than his fellow countrymen and a few other fan boys would expect him to win this thing because the competition has risen tenfold since A2's hay day.

With that said, as much as I would looove to say who is going to win this thing. I don't. But, I can give you a shortlist of 5 to 8 players who most likely would.

Last year I chose NonY over JF. Close but no cigar. I was very close selecting my fellow countryman and it wasn't out of blind faith, but because I was quite familiar with him as well.

Now, then sir. What do you have to say to that?
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 13 2009 15:06 GMT
#170
On December 14 2009 00:02 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Coming from you that means very little to me. I was good friends with several of the top coaches and managers. I've been to many a clan war and I'm telling you these guys wouldn't win this tournament. A2 and Dimaga might have made the top 16, or Round of 8 but they most certainly wouldn't win it. I am very familar with both of their styles and I know what potential they have. For example, A2's Terran has always been very suspect against Zerg. Ret has a ridiculously good record against him. Right about now, I would start talking about F91 as A2 and F91 were teammates on MYM., but it's irrelevant because F91 already got caught.

Now then substandard, exactly who are you to say these guys would actually win it? Matter of fact, did you even say that. No, you didn't. All you said is they would reach the top ten. Did I dismiss that? NO. Now, ask yourself the question again? Would these two players win the entire thing? Simple answer: NO. They are long shots.

Verbatim: NO. They would not win this tournament.



In the end, you are both speculating.
We make signature, then defense it.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 13 2009 15:07 GMT
#171
On December 14 2009 00:02 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Coming from you that means very little to me. I was good friends with several of the top coaches and managers. I've been to many a clan war and I'm telling you these guys wouldn't win this tournament. A2 and Dimaga might have made the top 16, or Round of 8 but they most certainly wouldn't win it. I am very familar with both of their styles and I know what potential they have. For example, A2's Terran has always been very suspect against Zerg. Ret has a ridiculously good record against him. Right about now, I would start talking about F91 as A2 and F91 were teammates on MYM., but it's irrelevant because F91 already got caught.

Now then substandard, exactly who are you to say these guys would actually win it? Matter of fact, did you even say that. No, you didn't. All you said is they would reach the top ten. Did I dismiss that? NO. Now, ask yourself the question again? Would these two players win the entire thing? Simple answer: NO. They are long shots.

Verbatim: NO. They would not win this tournament.


Now I don't know the president of blizzard, or know for sure that david Kim is in fact Nada. I drove my car to the car wash today and the doors froze shut and I couldn't get out till I ran the heat on high for 10 minutes. I am very familiar with this game starcraft and I'm telling you that bigger upsets have happened. Don't say that any of the guys that qualify Can't win the tournament.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 15:13:01
December 13 2009 15:10 GMT
#172
On December 14 2009 00:01 Pang0lin wrote:
We should just wait for the players to say they have to say.
Until then, im not saying anything .

What? What could they possibly say that would make you go... "oh well... that's fair and reasonable. rock on." Please elaborate. These are not guesses at possible abuse, these are clear instances of ladder abuse with clear evidence. There's nothing to say about that, no wonder they are not all over the forums trying to make themselves clear.

The only acceptable post they can make now is a final apology before disappearing. (and I hope they dont make that like Dimaga's ridiculous "attempt".)

On December 14 2009 00:02 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Coming from you that means very little to me. I was good friends with several of the top coaches and managers. I've been to many a clan war and I'm telling you these guys wouldn't win this tournament. A2 and Dimaga might have made the top 16, or Round of 8 but they most certainly wouldn't win it. I am very familar with both of their styles and I know what potential they have. For example, A2's Terran has always been very suspect against Zerg. Ret has a ridiculously good record against him. Right about now, I would start talking about F91 as A2 and F91 were teammates on MYM., but it's irrelevant because F91 already got caught.

Now then substandard, exactly who are you to say these guys would actually win it? Matter of fact, did you even say that. No, you didn't. All you said is they would reach the top ten. Did I dismiss that? NO. Now, ask yourself the question again? Would these two players win the entire thing? Simple answer: NO. They are long shots.

Verbatim: NO. They would not win this tournament.

EDIT: Bifur, coming from you that means little to me. Don't take what I said out of context. I know A2 almost as well as you and just because you are his countryman (we know you Russians have a great sense of pride, you don't have to preach it) and fought many a war with him doesn't mean you can negate facts. He hasn't played solidly in a while. Hell, the kid has been on and off for ages. When he's on his A game he is a very, very good player but no one other than his fellow countrymen and a few other fan boys would expect him to win this thing because the competition has risen tenfold since A2's hay day.

With that said, as much as I would looove to say who is going to win this thing. I don't. But, I can give you a shortlist of 5 to 8 players who most likely would.

Last year I chose NonY over JF. Close but no cigar. I was very close selecting my fellow countryman and it wasn't out of blind faith, but because I was quite familiar with him as well.

Now, then sir. What do you have to say to that?
Who the hell are you, again?
BW fighting!
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
December 13 2009 15:12 GMT
#173
If this continues there might be a thread soon "TSL2 Canceled" because of all the cheaters..
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 15:16:40
December 13 2009 15:14 GMT
#174
On December 13 2009 23:56 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 23:51 Substandard wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:45 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:42 Pulimuli wrote:
On December 13 2009 23:40 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Well, on the bright side none of the guys who got caught (with the lone exception being F91 ofc -__-) would have won this tournament anyway. Are they capable of doing damage and pulling an upset? Of course they are, but they wouldn't win all the mullah anyway and many of them know this already.


Are you insane? A2 could've won this


Let me repeat this for you one more time.

No, he wouldn't of.


Uh, wtf are you talking about, A2 and Dimaga imho are among the top 10 foreigners and both had a real shot at winning this.


yes 2nd'd
Dimaga is the 2nd best foreign Zerg and A2 is the 3rd best foreign T(ffs he took 1 game off JD)
Saying they have no chance just shows that you are completely clueless about the foreign scene. Sure Idra has a better chance, but these 2 have just as good a chance as Ret considering his ZvZ.

hes not the third best foreign t and neither of them had an appreciable chance of winning the whole thing, certainly not as good as ret's. dimaga is very good yes, and its not inconceivable that he could win, but it would be a very large long shot. rets zvz isnt as good as his other matchups but hes still not an underdog vs any foreign z, especially with f91 out of the picture, while dimaga would be the underdog vs at least a handful, and 50/50 vs quite a few others.
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shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
December 13 2009 15:18 GMT
#175
I think all DQ'd players that write an apology note, should atleast post a reppack to the fans that have been following and cheering for them all through the ladder stages, i mean its much better than a "Dam i fucked up! ggs!"
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 13 2009 15:20 GMT
#176
How many times does Vasilisk have to be caught cheating before we stop letting him in to these events?
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
December 13 2009 15:22 GMT
#177
awesome work by TL staff. this makes it especially good for those who worked real hard to get into the top 48 and fell just outside the cutoff... who DIDN'T cheat.

11 down, ??? to go
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
December 13 2009 15:23 GMT
#178
Maybe if there are enough abusers, I can get in. (how many people would need to be disqualified for #655 to get in, again?)
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 13 2009 15:25 GMT
#179
On December 14 2009 00:10 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:01 Pang0lin wrote:
We should just wait for the players to say they have to say.
Until then, im not saying anything .

What? What could they possibly say that would make you go... "oh well... that's fair and reasonable. rock on." Please elaborate. These are not guesses at possible abuse, these are clear instances of ladder abuse with clear evidence. There's nothing to say about that, no wonder they are not all over the forums trying to make themselves clear.

The only acceptable post they can make now is a final apology before disappearing. (and I hope they dont make that like Dimaga's ridiculous "attempt".)

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 00:02 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Coming from you that means very little to me. I was good friends with several of the top coaches and managers. I've been to many a clan war and I'm telling you these guys wouldn't win this tournament. A2 and Dimaga might have made the top 16, or Round of 8 but they most certainly wouldn't win it. I am very familar with both of their styles and I know what potential they have. For example, A2's Terran has always been very suspect against Zerg. Ret has a ridiculously good record against him. Right about now, I would start talking about F91 as A2 and F91 were teammates on MYM., but it's irrelevant because F91 already got caught.

Now then substandard, exactly who are you to say these guys would actually win it? Matter of fact, did you even say that. No, you didn't. All you said is they would reach the top ten. Did I dismiss that? NO. Now, ask yourself the question again? Would these two players win the entire thing? Simple answer: NO. They are long shots.

Verbatim: NO. They would not win this tournament.

EDIT: Bifur, coming from you that means little to me. Don't take what I said out of context. I know A2 almost as well as you and just because you are his countryman (we know you Russians have a great sense of pride, you don't have to preach it) and fought many a war with him doesn't mean you can negate facts. He hasn't played solidly in a while. Hell, the kid has been on and off for ages. When he's on his A game he is a very, very good player but no one other than his fellow countrymen and a few other fan boys would expect him to win this thing because the competition has risen tenfold since A2's hay day.

With that said, as much as I would looove to say who is going to win this thing. I don't. But, I can give you a shortlist of 5 to 8 players who most likely would.

Last year I chose NonY over JF. Close but no cigar. I was very close selecting my fellow countryman and it wasn't out of blind faith, but because I was quite familiar with him as well.

Now, then sir. What do you have to say to that?
Who the hell are you, again?


A smurf to you who knows the foreigner scene pretty well. Good day to you sir. =]
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
AstraBoy
Profile Joined August 2006
Peru363 Posts
December 13 2009 15:25 GMT
#180
wow the most stupid are dimaga : 3 minutes games XD
and reason omg haha his teerran is C+ level, impossible to him to win even vs a B- zerg
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