EPTI'd suggest hell-banning him (where he can still post but no one else can see his posts) but he makes so many alts he'd realize it immediatly I suppose.
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
I'd suggest hell-banning him (where he can still post but no one else can see his posts) but he makes so many alts he'd realize it immediatly I suppose. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:37 ShadeR wrote: Wait up i don't really understand this gg.nore situation. I remember he messed up one LR thread with stupid polls and was banned for it. But then he returned and cleaned up his act and made some really nice LR's and was responsible. So why was he banned and why does it seem he's insane..if i haven''t answered myself. Because last week about 20-30 people were banned, which were all him. And now he's making tons of other accounts again since then to be an asshole to the mods. He also tends to agree with himself a lot. | ||
Nyovne
Netherlands19129 Posts
Aha, a female! I should have known. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On July 05 2011 18:16 Trean wrote: Me and GGnore can be friends. You guys aren't friends yet? I should totally introduce the 2 of you. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10352 Posts
On July 06 2011 00:40 BLinD-RawR wrote: You guys aren't friends yet? I should totally introduce the 2 of you. You mean the 30 of them ;p | ||
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:24 Kurr wrote: At this point, the admins should just contact his ISP to end this. I'd suggest hell-banning him (where he can still post but no one else can see his posts) but he makes so many alts he'd realize it immediatly I suppose. I remember a thread that talked about "hell-banning", and if my memory serves me right- some admins where not a fan of this type of "justice". | ||
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DukeCanada
Canada64 Posts
On a completely unrelated topic, does anyone on TL spend much time at the Total War Center forums? Its an awesome community, but what really makes it cool is the way they ban people. Seriously, I kidd you not. They have a council or court that looks at bans. The person who was accused actually has a voice to defend him or herself. In some cases the mod has been found to be unjust, and the the accused is set free. Kind of cool eh? The best part is that we're allowed to read through the trials. You can check it out here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=507 P.S, am I allowed to post links to other forums on TL? I should probably look into that -_- | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:22 DukeCanada wrote: I dont think I've laughed this hard in a long time, great thread! On a completely unrelated topic, does anyone on TL spend much time at the Total War Center forums? Its an awesome community, but what really makes it cool is the way they ban people. Seriously, I kidd you not. They have a council or court that looks at bans. The person who was accused actually has a voice to defend him or herself. In some cases the mod has been found to be unjust, and the the accused is set free. Kind of cool eh? The best part is that we're allowed to read through the trials. You can check it out here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=507 P.S, am I allowed to post links to other forums on TL? I should probably look into that -_- You can appeal bans here. It's just not a public process, and generally doesn't go anywhere, because the majority of bans are, in fact, for rules being broken. TL has strict moderation for a reason. | ||
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DukeCanada
Canada64 Posts
I think mods in general are very good on TL and TWC. However, everyone has a bad day, or makes a mistake, so I think the appeal process is important. Also, on occasion there are power hungry mods who deem everyone retarded and abuse their powers. So its nice that we can fight them. Its also really funny to see people try to defend themselves in the Tribunal when its clear that they infringed on the TOS or some other set of rules. | ||
Chill
Calgary25963 Posts
If you want to appeal a ban you can make a thread in Website Feedback. Here's an example of an appeal. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:40 DukeCanada wrote: I guess that makes sense. I just thought that its kind of cool that the entire appeal process is public. I think everyone knows somebody (if you've been on TWC) that has gone through the Tribunal process. I think mods in general are very good on TL and TWC. However, everyone has a bad day, or makes a mistake, so I think the appeal process is important. Also, on occasion there are power hungry mods who deem everyone retarded and abuse their powers. So its nice that we can fight them. Its also really funny to see people try to defend themselves in the Tribunal when its clear that they infringed on the TOS or some other set of rules. That might have been possible if this site was still just about BW but there's no way it could work after SC2 got released. There's way too many members now. | ||
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DukeCanada
Canada64 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:52 Chill wrote: We handle ban mistakes internally. We don't make the process visible because 99% of the time it's just somebody breaking a rule - Going through a tribunal process for these would be a waste of resources. If we had any "bad" or "power hungry" mods we would get rid of them. If you want to appeal a ban you can make a thread in Website Feedback. Here's an example of an appeal. I never had a doubt that you guys are 100% capable of handling the issues  . Admittedly I didn't know that you could appeal in the Website Feedback sub-forum. Maybe ill have to check it more often to find appeals .Perhaps it would be a good idea to archive all the appeals, so that people can read them? I think it would benefit people who want to appeal because they will have a general idea as to whether their argument has weight or not. On July 06 2011 02:04 andrewlt wrote: That might have been possible if this site was still just about BW but there's no way it could work after SC2 got released. There's way too many members now. I dont know if its an issue with the amount of members. TWC constantly has over 1500 online, and at times can be as active (if not more) than TL. Its just that TWC was built around a different set of ideals, when compared to TL. TL is really about the Starcraft scene and esports. The forums are a byproduct of this scene (in my opinion). TWC was built around modding, politics, literature and other things. They may both be "gaming" websites, but the set of ideals behind them is different. TWC more closely resembles contemporary society. So it was more easily able to make "public" debates and tribunals. TL has no use for this sort of service, and so there is no point in implementing. However, I still think it would be interesting to see what would happen if we archived appeals or arguments. A tribunal council would be over the top, but maybe the mods could manage it? Anyways, I fear that I've strayed from the topic. Wouldnt want to get in trouble with the mods, now would I  | ||
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Chill
Calgary25963 Posts
On July 06 2011 02:49 DukeCanada wrote: I never had a doubt that you guys are 100% capable of handling the issues . Admittedly I didn't know that you could appeal in the Website Feedback sub-forum. Maybe ill have to check it more often to find appeals .Perhaps it would be a good idea to archive all the appeals, so that people can read them? I think it would benefit people who want to appeal because they will have a general idea as to whether their argument has weight or not. In a "snap my fingers and it's done" world, sure. Would I ever ask anyone to waste their time organizing every warning / ban appeal? Never. | ||
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DukeCanada
Canada64 Posts
On July 06 2011 02:53 Chill wrote: In a "snap my fingers and it's done" world, sure. Would I ever ask anyone to waste their time organizing every warning / ban appeal? Never. Very true. Maybe in the distant future we can try something like this | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On July 06 2011 04:38 DukeCanada wrote: Very true. Maybe in the distant future we can try something like this In my opinion if a user wishes to argue a ban, they can simply PM the mod who banned them, and if they feel that that mod is biased or being unfair, ask a disinterested party (other mod). Making it a whole public thing isn't really necessary, and I think it would just serve to slow down the process. It'd be really funny to see GG.NoRe/that guy who hates Nyovne trying to defend themselves though. Does TL do IP bans or is everything done manually (banning the alts as they're created)? edit: grammar/spelling | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On July 06 2011 05:56 Varpulis wrote: Does TL do IP bans or is everything done manually (banning the alts as they're created)? In rare cases, IP bans can be used. However, I don't know how severe an offense has to be for such an act. Spamming disposable accounts to flame/troll/whatever is the only one that comes to mind. You'd have to ask a mod or admin about it. | ||
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Ojahh
Ireland728 Posts
Trean was just banned by zatic. That account was created on 2011-07-05 17:34:25 and had 11 posts. Reason: On July 05 2011 17:39 Trean wrote: It's OK. We have had guys like you every season for years. The only one whose name I can remember is tdot, but he was special. You can either put some effort into being special, like tdot, or be forgotten next banning season. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
ROFL! You may be on to something there. Perhaps all these alts are just desperate cries of an unrequited lover. Passive agressive romance anyone? | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On July 04 2011 07:16 Gurblechev wrote: What was "caused" by slavery is a huge uplifting of Blacks and their quality of life. Why do descendants of slaves not wish to trade places with descendants of free Blacks? The enslavement of their ancestors is the greatest thing to ever happen to American Blacks. They really hit the lottery jackpot. User was temp banned for this post. Oh Gurblechev. Hot Bid only gave him a 2 day ban for this. Merciful. | ||
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