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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 13:04:56
June 02 2014 13:03 GMT
#45721
On June 02 2014 21:56 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
the people he was arguing with were 100 times more annoying

you're right, for full clarity i should add that at least the guy he was replying to absolutely deserves a worse punishment for his out of line comment about tb's career. but two wrongs don't make a right imo. anyway not a huge deal or anything but i just think it's better to discourage that kind of shitslinging regardless of who "started it". i think it's destructive to the forums in the same way advertising, trolling, memes or any other rulebreaking are
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
June 02 2014 15:10 GMT
#45722
On June 02 2014 21:52 Waise wrote:
this isn't about a ban or warning, more about the lack of one? not sure where to put this. i don't think it's worthy of a whole thread in website feedback and i don't want to start a drama train since he's a popular figure

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 06:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On June 02 2014 06:41 Andelas wrote:
On June 02 2014 06:35 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On June 02 2014 06:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 02 2014 05:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On June 02 2014 05:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 02 2014 05:45 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On June 02 2014 05:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 02 2014 05:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
[quote]

It is 99% confirmed that some of his views are not legit. It is not confirmed that this is his own doing. He obviously has a fanbase, it's just not as big as these stats indicate. His recent questionable claims that he was the "#1 viewed Starcraft streamer" in his ill-fated AMA have served to only compound the problem.

then pls link the data, all i saw is a reddit article that literally said his stream isn't more suspicious than any other streamer you can find.


The data is my eyes and knowing how streaming works.

So basically no data, ty


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/257n93/hi_im_wintersc_currently_the_1_sc2_streamer_i_am/chei0kl

Other than him admitting it? No I do not have access to the impossible to access data, shockingly enough.

So what exactly does this prove? You and others make it look like he is not legit at all. That is where my problem with this bs starts, it is basically a witch-hunt cause the big boys don't have his numbers and get mad about it.
Streams get botted, this is nothing new and not exclusive to Winter, so what exactly is your point?
I could probably say exactly the same about 4 random other streams on that list.
Does he get botted? Probably from time to time like many other streams out there.
The interesting part isn't IF someone gets botted, but how substantial the botting is, as long as nobody shows any data with evidence that his numbers are WAY exaggerated, i don't see any point in this whole discussion really...
But hey it is obviously easier to be a douchebag about this whole situation because you don't like his growth.

And to add something usefull: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/26cnst/sc2_streams_and_viewbots_the_numbers/


Could you stop pretending that I am somehow jealous of Winters numbers? The last SC2 ladder stream I did I was above 10k concurrent. I have nothing to be jealous of. It's definitely easy to see where some of his fans get their obnoxious attitudes from though. Beating up gold leaguers in the name of "education" and then being smarmy about it is the reason some people don't like him, it has nothing to do with some imaginary "old boys club" being jealous of the newcomer.



And your comments here show that you really don't watch his stream and feel justified in being smarmy yourself based on nothing but your own smugness. He starts every stream playing his masters account for at least an hour or two (usually 10-15 games) then switches. But hey, you clearly haven't given any thought before making a judgement on someone else, then again, that's pretty much the foundation of your career.


Your honour I rest my case, I think we have proven beyond a doubt that Winters fanbois are insufferable toxic nitwits.

i have no idea why you would aslo jump on the hate train, but apparently you do.


Ahh yes the good old "hate train". Everyone who criticizes this guy has gotta be a "hater". It's a childish way of approaching things and completely dismissive of criticism.

No sorry, you'll have to accept that there are good reasons for not liking your favourite streamer and that going out and attacking those that don't only makes him and his fans look worse.


(referring strictly to the line about "toxic nitwit fanbois," not the argument itself)

i already know the rule about people who do a lot for the community getting more leeway and relaxed moderation, and i'm fine with it. but this isn't something silly like posting a meme image or bumping an old thread. it's a direct personal insult that serves no purpose other than dramatic internet slapfighting, and it's far from the first time he's done it

i don't have any grudge or bias against him. regardless of who's making them, i feel that posts like this bring down the level of discourse on any forum and make it a poorer environment for discussion and relaxation. hell, i've done the same thing in the past, and i think we've all been guilty a few times, but if i make a mistake i can accept the consequences

i don't know anything about this winter streaming debate, i've never even watched his stream, but i was reading the thread with interest in the points being made by both sides. i want to read reasoned arguments, and he was providing those as well, but as a forumgoer i don't want to read people calling each other toxic nitwits over streaming data.

anyway, just my opinion, not making any demands or trying to whine. if he can post like that, i'll just accept it. but it seems unfortunate to me if anyone can.

Questions about moderation should go in the website feedback section. This thread is only about discussing bans and making fun of KadaverBB banned people. Now if you want to hea my thought of it I hardly think that "toxic nitwit fanbois," is so out of the line if you look at the conversation as a whole. And I doubt that giving TB a warning for that would do anything.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 02 2014 15:48 GMT
#45723
Important community members do get banned when the step over the line. That's pretty far from the line so I'm not sure what you're up about
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 02 2014 16:34 GMT
#45724
On June 03 2014 00:48 lichter wrote:
Important community members do get banned when the step over the line. That's pretty far from the line so I'm not sure what you're up about


See Idra for great examples
AdministratorBreak the chains
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 02 2014 18:05 GMT
#45725
On June 03 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 00:48 lichter wrote:
Important community members do get banned when the step over the line. That's pretty far from the line so I'm not sure what you're up about


See Idra for great examples


And counterexamples :D
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
June 02 2014 20:00 GMT
#45726
On June 03 2014 03:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On June 03 2014 00:48 lichter wrote:
Important community members do get banned when the step over the line. That's pretty far from the line so I'm not sure what you're up about


See Idra for great examples


And counterexamples :D


he treaded the line multiple times.

question about the GoT thread, possibly spoiler-y, so dontcha click that:

+ Show Spoiler +
how are posts that "predict" what is going to maybe happen in the show, but (incidentally?) are spot on treated by mods? people who read the books will probably know which recent one i mean. i think i recall someone being banned for being very precise very often. so i guess it's up to a mod to tell apart trolling and luck?
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 02 2014 20:15 GMT
#45727
On June 03 2014 05:00 qotsager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 03:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
On June 03 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On June 03 2014 00:48 lichter wrote:
Important community members do get banned when the step over the line. That's pretty far from the line so I'm not sure what you're up about


See Idra for great examples


And counterexamples :D


he treaded the line multiple times.

question about the GoT thread, possibly spoiler-y, so dontcha click that:

+ Show Spoiler +
how are posts that "predict" what is going to maybe happen in the show, but (incidentally?) are spot on treated by mods? people who read the books will probably know which recent one i mean. i think i recall someone being banned for being very precise very often. so i guess it's up to a mod to tell apart trolling and luck?


+ Show Spoiler +
Yes. Case-by-case basis and a lot of headache.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 20:41:15
June 02 2014 20:41 GMT
#45728
Winters fanbois are insufferable toxic nitwits


This isn't so bad, in fact it's an improvement. Last time he called someone a c*nt.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 02 2014 20:51 GMT
#45729
On June 03 2014 05:41 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
Winters fanbois are insufferable toxic nitwits


This isn't so bad, in fact it's an improvement. Last time he called someone a c*nt.

and was banned for it. i guess he is improving his posting! the system is working. el oh el.

The problem is you're a stupid cunt. Fuck you and all those like you

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/332053-totalbiscuit-to-the-us?page=6#104
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 02 2014 20:54 GMT
#45730
It's posts like those that make me love export personalities. I wish corporate twitters were as honest.
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
June 02 2014 22:50 GMT
#45731
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 02 2014 23:09 GMT
#45732
On June 03 2014 07:50 qotsager wrote:
Show nested quote +
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.

what does your signature mean?
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 23:11:10
June 02 2014 23:10 GMT
#45733
On June 03 2014 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 07:50 qotsager wrote:
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.

what does your signature mean?

He won. You were too busy lawyering to notice. Either that or PBU.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 02 2014 23:10 GMT
#45734
On June 03 2014 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 07:50 qotsager wrote:
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.

what does your signature mean?

he was the most banned in ABL in 2013 and is somehow still here?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
June 02 2014 23:32 GMT
#45735
On June 03 2014 08:10 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 03 2014 07:50 qotsager wrote:
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.

what does your signature mean?

he was the most banned in ABL in 2013 and is somehow still here?


If he can get unbanned in 15 minutes, he can't have that bad of a record.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's because he and Kadaver are both German. Obviously conspiring.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 00:23:47
June 02 2014 23:44 GMT
#45736
On June 03 2014 08:32 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 08:10 BigFan wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 03 2014 07:50 qotsager wrote:
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.

what does your signature mean?

he was the most banned in ABL in 2013 and is somehow still here?


If he can get unbanned in 15 minutes, he can't have that bad of a record.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's because he and Kadaver are both German. Obviously conspiring.

To use a tired joke, you would think he was canadian for apologizing so quickly. Though what with Deezer and Combat, that addage doesn't hold as well in SC2.

I might be disappointed about TheAquaBats were I a ska kid in high school when I attended. Yet I was not.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
June 03 2014 01:14 GMT
#45737
On June 03 2014 08:44 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 08:32 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:10 BigFan wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 03 2014 07:50 qotsager wrote:
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.

what does your signature mean?

he was the most banned in ABL in 2013 and is somehow still here?


If he can get unbanned in 15 minutes, he can't have that bad of a record.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's because he and Kadaver are both German. Obviously conspiring.

To use a tired joke, you would think he was canadian for apologizing so quickly. Though what with Deezer and Combat, that addage doesn't hold as well in SC2.


Germans repenting rapidly? Canadians never giving up? This is heresy.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
June 03 2014 01:34 GMT
#45738
On June 03 2014 10:14 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 08:44 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:32 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:10 BigFan wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 03 2014 07:50 qotsager wrote:
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.

what does your signature mean?

he was the most banned in ABL in 2013 and is somehow still here?


If he can get unbanned in 15 minutes, he can't have that bad of a record.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's because he and Kadaver are both German. Obviously conspiring.

To use a tired joke, you would think he was canadian for apologizing so quickly. Though what with Deezer and Combat, that addage doesn't hold as well in SC2.


Germans repenting rapidly? Canadians never giving up? This is heresy.


i got unbanned so quickly because i fixed my mistake before even getting banned, and kadaver managed to quickly revert my ban after realizing that. german efficiency.

and i won ABL by making a Game of Thrones reference. Seeker gave me that title.

On November 14 2013 04:44 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 12:11 qotsager wrote:
On November 13 2013 12:07 AgentW wrote:
On November 13 2013 12:04 Serejai wrote:
On November 13 2013 11:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Why can't every ban be as dramatic as irninja's?


is that a challenge? give me a name

Serejai.

the girl gives a man his own name?

This comment wins the thread. I feel bad for people who don't get it though.


but since it's a new year, the championship is up for grabs. post something funny.
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
June 03 2014 01:41 GMT
#45739
On June 03 2014 10:34 qotsager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 10:14 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:44 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:32 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:10 BigFan wrote:
On June 03 2014 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 03 2014 07:50 qotsager wrote:
qotsager was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2012-03-28 04:28:23 and had 345 posts.

Reason: No book talk please. Mod note, pretty obvious ^^


i was temp banned for like 15 minutes. anybody miss me? :D

GoT thread is dangerous. i did feel pretty stupid though.

what does your signature mean?

he was the most banned in ABL in 2013 and is somehow still here?


If he can get unbanned in 15 minutes, he can't have that bad of a record.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's because he and Kadaver are both German. Obviously conspiring.

To use a tired joke, you would think he was canadian for apologizing so quickly. Though what with Deezer and Combat, that addage doesn't hold as well in SC2.


Germans repenting rapidly? Canadians never giving up? This is heresy.


i got unbanned so quickly because i fixed my mistake before even getting banned, and kadaver managed to quickly revert my ban after realizing that. german efficiency.

and i won ABL by making a Game of Thrones reference. Seeker gave me that title.

Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 04:44 Seeker wrote:
On November 13 2013 12:11 qotsager wrote:
On November 13 2013 12:07 AgentW wrote:
On November 13 2013 12:04 Serejai wrote:
On November 13 2013 11:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Why can't every ban be as dramatic as irninja's?


is that a challenge? give me a name

Serejai.

the girl gives a man his own name?

This comment wins the thread. I feel bad for people who don't get it though.


but since it's a new year, the championship is up for grabs. post something funny.


Oh, GG. I never post funny stuff....
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 03 2014 03:52 GMT
#45740
So people got rustled over "toxic nitwit fanbois"? I guess I should be flattered.

That was light and frankly justified. It was far less than what was aimed at me, completely unprovoked I might add, by sad toxic nitwit fanbois. Frankly I'm rather proud of my restraint.
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