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On July 24 2013 05:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:32 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 05:18 farvacola wrote:
Wow, I don't know how you publically visible folk can even use twitter with people like that around. Completely agree. I'm sure this isn't the first one like that TB has received either. This is a daily thing, it's toothless bullshit from people whose only courage comes from sitting behind a keyboard.
I'm sorry to hear that, and as a friendly reminder (as I'm sure you've heard before), there's one hundred supporters for every hater. The haters are just louder.
On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 23 2013 22:09 scott31337 wrote:
The b.net forums might be a good way to release some balance discussion steam *snickers*
Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around.
What if it's a case of mistaken (albeit consistently douchy) identity? It would suck to ban the wrong guy, it's not like we have two IdrA's running around.
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On July 24 2013 05:41 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:
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Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around. What if it's a case of mistaken (albeit consistently douchy) identity? It would suck to ban the wrong guy, it's not like we have two IdrA's running around.
I guess I meant my comment to only be relevant when the identity is verified, e.g. through ip.
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On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 23 2013 22:09 scott31337 wrote:
The b.net forums might be a good way to release some balance discussion steam *snickers*
Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around.
i dont disagree. but i think they can come to that same conclusion from just reviewing his posts on tl.net.
the main problem with moderating non-tl.net actions is that what you will see will be abuse of the system, not legitimate moderation. be BM to one of the old boys' group, banned from tl.net. be one of the old boys' group and BMing people, no action taken. be BM to random tl.net user who reports you to tl.net mods, no action.
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On July 24 2013 05:41 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 05:32 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 05:18 farvacola wrote:
Wow, I don't know how you publically visible folk can even use twitter with people like that around. Completely agree. I'm sure this isn't the first one like that TB has received either. This is a daily thing, it's toothless bullshit from people whose only courage comes from sitting behind a keyboard. I'm sorry to hear that, and as a friendly reminder (as I'm sure you've heard before), there's one hundred supporters for every hater. The haters are just louder. Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:
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Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around. What if it's a case of mistaken (albeit consistently douchy) identity? It would suck to ban the wrong guy, it's not like we have two IdrA's running around.
Well the usernames match up with his post on Reddit and they're not new accounts either, they both have histories, so it's safe to say it's him.
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On July 24 2013 05:44 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:
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Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around. i dont disagree. but i think they can come to that same conclusion from just reviewing his posts on tl.net. the main problem with moderating non-tl.net actions is that what you will see will be abuse of the system, not legitimate moderation. be BM to one of the old boys' group, banned from tl.net. be one of the old boys' group and BMing people, no action taken. be BM to random tl.net user who reports you to tl.net mods, no action.
Yeah, that's definitely something I agree with. If I remember correctly, there was such an issue with someone being banned on TL for bming on B.net and I really disagreed with that action. I think this is exactly why the occurrences of banning someone for something outside of TL is so rare. They might have even stopped completely after that incident.
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On July 24 2013 05:44 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:
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Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around. i dont disagree. but i think they can come to that same conclusion from just reviewing his posts on tl.net. the main problem with moderating non-tl.net actions is that what you will see will be abuse of the system, not legitimate moderation. be BM to one of the old boys' group, banned from tl.net. be one of the old boys' group and BMing people, no action taken. be BM to random tl.net user who reports you to tl.net mods, no action.
I see where you're coming from but honestly getting rid of this moron is better than not doing anything at all, even if you don't get rid of all the morons who might be deserving, it's still a step in the right direction. I'm not sure who would actually *complain* about this course of action beyond just playing devil's advocate. Either way it's well worth it imo.
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On July 24 2013 05:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:41 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 05:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 05:32 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 05:18 farvacola wrote:
Wow, I don't know how you publically visible folk can even use twitter with people like that around. Completely agree. I'm sure this isn't the first one like that TB has received either. This is a daily thing, it's toothless bullshit from people whose only courage comes from sitting behind a keyboard. I'm sorry to hear that, and as a friendly reminder (as I'm sure you've heard before), there's one hundred supporters for every hater. The haters are just louder. On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:
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Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around. What if it's a case of mistaken (albeit consistently douchy) identity? It would suck to ban the wrong guy, it's not like we have two IdrA's running around. Well the usernames match up with his post on Reddit and they're not new accounts either, they both have histories, so it's safe to say it's him.
Fair enough. Just did a search on reddit for him (I don't reddit so maybe I'm doing it wrong), but his account doesn't seem to exist. I wonder if the Twitter is going to disappear too.
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On July 24 2013 05:48 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:
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Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around. i dont disagree. but i think they can come to that same conclusion from just reviewing his posts on tl.net. the main problem with moderating non-tl.net actions is that what you will see will be abuse of the system, not legitimate moderation. be BM to one of the old boys' group, banned from tl.net. be one of the old boys' group and BMing people, no action taken. be BM to random tl.net user who reports you to tl.net mods, no action. Yeah, that's definitely something I agree with. If I remember correctly, there was such an issue with someone being banned on TL for bming on B.net and I really disagreed with that action. I think this is exactly why the occurrences of banning someone for something outside of TL is so rare. They might have even stopped completely after that incident.
i am aware of two incidents. one, i think was a joke and was reversed -- I recall chill told someone not to play pvz like a moron. the other, the mod reversed himself or was reversed by admins after a fuss was made about it in this thread (overturning may have been unrelated to the thread though).
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On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 23 2013 22:09 scott31337 wrote:
The b.net forums might be a good way to release some balance discussion steam *snickers*
Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long.
He needs some serious help.
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There's been bans for behavior outside of TL where the behavior of the person banned at TL itself was also dodgy and the outside TL shenanigans pushed it over the edge into bannination, KwarK has had a few of those I think. But bantage particularly or exclusively for being an asshole on B.Net or somewhere I don't think that has happened except for the examples phreak mentions.
On July 24 2013 06:12 3FFA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 23 2013 22:09 scott31337 wrote:
The b.net forums might be a good way to release some balance discussion steam *snickers*
Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. He needs some serious help.
Yeah that's some volcano-rage craziness right there.
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On July 24 2013 06:14 DeepElemBlues wrote:There's been bans for behavior outside of TL where the behavior of the person banned at TL itself was also dodgy and the outside TL shenanigans pushed it over the edge into bannination, KwarK has had a few of those I think. But bantage particularly or exclusively for being an asshole on B.Net or somewhere I don't think that has happened except for the examples phreak mentions. Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:12 3FFA wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 23 2013 22:09 scott31337 wrote:
The b.net forums might be a good way to release some balance discussion steam *snickers*
Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. He needs some serious help. Yeah that's some volcano-rage craziness right there.
Like Kwark banned people or WAS banned?
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On July 24 2013 05:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:32 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 05:18 farvacola wrote:
Wow, I don't know how you publically visible folk can even use twitter with people like that around. Completely agree. I'm sure this isn't the first one like that TB has received either. This is a daily thing, it's toothless bullshit from people whose only courage comes from sitting behind a keyboard.
Wow, in general I'm against the idea of "making trolling illegal" and the recent crackdown there's been on it in the UK, but imo people who send messages like this just making personal attacks on others do deserve to be punished.
My ideal punishments would be
1) Going round to their house and film them squirming as I explain who I am and then uploading it to reddit for the world to see what a coward they are.
and 2) Contacting their parents and explaining what their child has been doing on the internet
But no. 3 would be having them go to court and end up paying a fine or doing community service.
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On July 24 2013 06:24 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:14 DeepElemBlues wrote:There's been bans for behavior outside of TL where the behavior of the person banned at TL itself was also dodgy and the outside TL shenanigans pushed it over the edge into bannination, KwarK has had a few of those I think. But bantage particularly or exclusively for being an asshole on B.Net or somewhere I don't think that has happened except for the examples phreak mentions. On July 24 2013 06:12 3FFA wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 23 2013 22:09 scott31337 wrote:
The b.net forums might be a good way to release some balance discussion steam *snickers*
Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. He needs some serious help. Yeah that's some volcano-rage craziness right there. Like Kwark banned people or WAS banned?
Kwark has had a few people that harassed him outside of TL I believe.
@Above poster ...no, just no...
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On July 24 2013 06:44 3FFA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:24 SilentchiLL wrote:On July 24 2013 06:14 DeepElemBlues wrote:There's been bans for behavior outside of TL where the behavior of the person banned at TL itself was also dodgy and the outside TL shenanigans pushed it over the edge into bannination, KwarK has had a few of those I think. But bantage particularly or exclusively for being an asshole on B.Net or somewhere I don't think that has happened except for the examples phreak mentions. On July 24 2013 06:12 3FFA wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 23 2013 22:09 scott31337 wrote:
The b.net forums might be a good way to release some balance discussion steam *snickers*
Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. He needs some serious help. Yeah that's some volcano-rage craziness right there. Like Kwark banned people or WAS banned? Kwark has had a few people that harassed him outside of TL I believe. @Above poster ...no, just no...
The other way around would have been so much more interestering.
On July 24 2013 06:42 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 05:32 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 05:18 farvacola wrote:
Wow, I don't know how you publically visible folk can even use twitter with people like that around. Completely agree. I'm sure this isn't the first one like that TB has received either. This is a daily thing, it's toothless bullshit from people whose only courage comes from sitting behind a keyboard. Wow, in general I'm against the idea of "making trolling illegal" and the recent crackdown there's been on it in the UK, but imo people who send messages like this just making personal attacks on others do deserve to be punished. My ideal punishments would be 1) Going round to their house and film them squirming as I explain who I am and then uploading it to reddit for the world to see what a coward they are. and 2) Contacting their parents and explaining what their child has been doing on the internet But no. 3 would be having them go to court and end up paying a fine or doing community service.
Can't agree with 1 and 3, maybe #2 though if it's a child and what he or she has done was very severe.
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On July 24 2013 06:54 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:44 3FFA wrote:On July 24 2013 06:24 SilentchiLL wrote:On July 24 2013 06:14 DeepElemBlues wrote:There's been bans for behavior outside of TL where the behavior of the person banned at TL itself was also dodgy and the outside TL shenanigans pushed it over the edge into bannination, KwarK has had a few of those I think. But bantage particularly or exclusively for being an asshole on B.Net or somewhere I don't think that has happened except for the examples phreak mentions. On July 24 2013 06:12 3FFA wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:On July 23 2013 22:26 Emzeeshady wrote:
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Well at least on BNET forums you can see the race and league of the people making the statement. That would be pretty useful here even though I can often figure it out :p. Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. He needs some serious help. Yeah that's some volcano-rage craziness right there. Like Kwark banned people or WAS banned? Kwark has had a few people that harassed him outside of TL I believe. @Above poster ...no, just no... The other way around would have been so much more interestering. Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:42 Eufouria wrote:On July 24 2013 05:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 05:32 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 05:18 farvacola wrote:
Wow, I don't know how you publically visible folk can even use twitter with people like that around. Completely agree. I'm sure this isn't the first one like that TB has received either. This is a daily thing, it's toothless bullshit from people whose only courage comes from sitting behind a keyboard. Wow, in general I'm against the idea of "making trolling illegal" and the recent crackdown there's been on it in the UK, but imo people who send messages like this just making personal attacks on others do deserve to be punished. My ideal punishments would be 1) Going round to their house and film them squirming as I explain who I am and then uploading it to reddit for the world to see what a coward they are. and 2) Contacting their parents and explaining what their child has been doing on the internet But no. 3 would be having them go to court and end up paying a fine or doing community service. Can't agree with 1 and 3, maybe #2 though if it's a child and what he or she has done was very severe.
And get the parents concerned about a stalker on the internet or something? No thanks...
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On July 24 2013 06:56 3FFA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:54 SilentchiLL wrote:On July 24 2013 06:44 3FFA wrote:On July 24 2013 06:24 SilentchiLL wrote:On July 24 2013 06:14 DeepElemBlues wrote:There's been bans for behavior outside of TL where the behavior of the person banned at TL itself was also dodgy and the outside TL shenanigans pushed it over the edge into bannination, KwarK has had a few of those I think. But bantage particularly or exclusively for being an asshole on B.Net or somewhere I don't think that has happened except for the examples phreak mentions. On July 24 2013 06:12 3FFA wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:On July 24 2013 02:17 docvoc wrote:
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Haha, even then, you never know someones true ranking that they deserve XD. Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. He needs some serious help. Yeah that's some volcano-rage craziness right there. Like Kwark banned people or WAS banned? Kwark has had a few people that harassed him outside of TL I believe. @Above poster ...no, just no... The other way around would have been so much more interestering. On July 24 2013 06:42 Eufouria wrote:On July 24 2013 05:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 05:32 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 05:18 farvacola wrote:
Wow, I don't know how you publically visible folk can even use twitter with people like that around. Completely agree. I'm sure this isn't the first one like that TB has received either. This is a daily thing, it's toothless bullshit from people whose only courage comes from sitting behind a keyboard. Wow, in general I'm against the idea of "making trolling illegal" and the recent crackdown there's been on it in the UK, but imo people who send messages like this just making personal attacks on others do deserve to be punished. My ideal punishments would be 1) Going round to their house and film them squirming as I explain who I am and then uploading it to reddit for the world to see what a coward they are. and 2) Contacting their parents and explaining what their child has been doing on the internet But no. 3 would be having them go to court and end up paying a fine or doing community service. Can't agree with 1 and 3, maybe #2 though if it's a child and what he or she has done was very severe. And get the parents concerned about a stalker on the internet or something? No thanks...
I think when you show a parent screenshots about their child daily insulting a certain guy on twitter/youtube/whatever then they won't think "OH MY GOD MY CHILD INSULTS HIM EVERY DAY IN HORRIBLY DISGUSTING WAYS, HE CLEARLY STALKS THE LITTLE BOY!"
Since the guy talked about "ideal punishment" it may not even be him showing up at the parent's doorstep, but maybe the police.
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On July 24 2013 05:54 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:48 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 03:00 kmillz wrote:
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Why is that? Is there an "ELO Hell" for SC2? lol No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond." From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol): theking1 was just temp banned for 1 week by MoonBear.
That account was created on 2013-06-06 22:55:49 and had 341 posts.
Reason: You were banned only 10 days ago for being unable to debate in a civil way. Here you are being a repeat offender. Either learn to manner up or get off TL. I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around. i dont disagree. but i think they can come to that same conclusion from just reviewing his posts on tl.net. the main problem with moderating non-tl.net actions is that what you will see will be abuse of the system, not legitimate moderation. be BM to one of the old boys' group, banned from tl.net. be one of the old boys' group and BMing people, no action taken. be BM to random tl.net user who reports you to tl.net mods, no action. Yeah, that's definitely something I agree with. If I remember correctly, there was such an issue with someone being banned on TL for bming on B.net and I really disagreed with that action. I think this is exactly why the occurrences of banning someone for something outside of TL is so rare. They might have even stopped completely after that incident. i am aware of two incidents. one, i think was a joke and was reversed -- I recall chill told someone not to play pvz like a moron. the other, the mod reversed himself or was reversed by admins after a fuss was made about it in this thread (overturning may have been unrelated to the thread though).
mani did one on stream once, he banned puppykiller "dont play tvp like a dick" (puppy did the AI strat mass zealots a-move)
was funny as hell hahahahhahaa
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On July 24 2013 08:04 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:54 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:48 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:44 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:39 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:31 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:25 garbanzo wrote:On July 24 2013 05:17 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 24 2013 05:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:09 AgentW wrote:
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No, it's just the thing where people go "I'm gold, but if not for cheese, then I'd be masters" or "I have the understanding of a GM player but mechanics have me stuck in diamond."
From the "Blizzard being dumb" thread, after flaming TB (lol):
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I can't decide if he and the other idiot in there with his location listed as Romania are the same guy or not and it's some elaborate trolling scheme where he aggressively debates both sides of the argument. Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/YvwROey.png < That's him, you can safely say he's just a shitty troll and won't be here for long. what a fucking asshole. jesus christ. Oh my. I know users are rarely banned for things outside TL, but I think this should be one of those rare occasions. i am firmly opposed to people being banned on tl.net for stuff they do off the site unless they specifically relate to tl.net--tl.net isnt the world police (thats americas job). there are multiple occasions where this has legitimately happened (e.g., idra telling his minions to go after chill on twitter (?), some dude on battle.net who verbally attacked a mod knowing full well that it was a mod). since the guy attacked TB on a tl.net thread and then subsequently attacked him (after being banned?) maybe that is enough, im not sure, it doesnt seem enough to me. doesnt twitter have rules? Hmm...I agree to some extent. My only real point in saying that is that it seems pretty clear to me from that exchange that he's not going to be a constructive member of the TL forums. In fact, it can be argued that he's particularly malicious so there's no reason to keep him around. i dont disagree. but i think they can come to that same conclusion from just reviewing his posts on tl.net. the main problem with moderating non-tl.net actions is that what you will see will be abuse of the system, not legitimate moderation. be BM to one of the old boys' group, banned from tl.net. be one of the old boys' group and BMing people, no action taken. be BM to random tl.net user who reports you to tl.net mods, no action. Yeah, that's definitely something I agree with. If I remember correctly, there was such an issue with someone being banned on TL for bming on B.net and I really disagreed with that action. I think this is exactly why the occurrences of banning someone for something outside of TL is so rare. They might have even stopped completely after that incident. i am aware of two incidents. one, i think was a joke and was reversed -- I recall chill told someone not to play pvz like a moron. the other, the mod reversed himself or was reversed by admins after a fuss was made about it in this thread (overturning may have been unrelated to the thread though). mani did one on stream once, he banned puppykiller "dont play tvp like a dick" (puppy did the AI strat mass zealots a-move) was funny as hell hahahahhahaa
that may be the one i was thinking about rather than chill. i thought there was one with chill too, but my memory may just be bad.
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If you show that you're not the kind of person we'd like to have here at tl then I see absolutely no reason why we'd keep you here just because you didn't do it on tl itself. We either want you here or you don't, there's no "don't want you but technically we can't do anything". A few years ago there was a guy recounting how he raped a girl on tl, the fact that the rape happened in real life didn't make him any less distasteful or make me want him on the website more.
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On July 24 2013 08:15 KwarK wrote:
If you show that you're not the kind of person we'd like to have here at tl then I see absolutely no reason why we'd keep you here just because you didn't do it on tl itself. We either want you here or you don't, there's no "don't want you but technically we can't do anything". A few years ago there was a guy recounting how he raped a girl on tl, the fact that the rape happened in real life didn't make him any less distasteful or make me want him on the website more.
i thought that this whole story few years ago (it was tdot, afair) was just fake and a "troll".
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