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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 13:29:44
September 03 2011 13:25 GMT
#181
Lurk for a few weeks to give you an idea of what is accepted any what isn't

And don't make your first post a topic unless it is the most amazing thing to grace this earth (aka Elder Scrolls: Skyrim leaked footage)

AND appreciate that you are in one of the most sophisticated video game communities ever look around at all the awesome content people are creating and have a good time here
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 13:39:06
September 03 2011 13:33 GMT
#182
On September 03 2011 07:41 Torte de Lini wrote:
The more you post, the more scrutiny you'll be under.

indeed.

Its a great Idea to read stuff in the blog section,mostly the ones that are not starcraft related,especially blogs written by guys like Snet.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
September 03 2011 13:44 GMT
#183
On September 01 2011 23:41 Emporio wrote:
Don't post for about two weeks.
This, basically. Get a feel for what and how other people post. This is the strictest site I've ever been too (if we don't count elitistjerks.com for WoW which is 10x more strict even :p), and that's a good thing.

Its pimp 1998 design is enough to scare off a lot of the web 2.0 kiddies, but those who remain get to reap the many benefits that TL offers.
Well, there is nothing wrong with the design haha, in fact this is one of the best designed websites I've ever been too, everything is nice and clear and easily found. Unlike some 'flashy' websites *cough* MLG *cough*.

Can't think of anything that would improve the design of this site.
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
September 03 2011 13:45 GMT
#184
Don't get overwhelmed by the amount of E-Sports content. Browse around in the SC2 tourneys subsection to find which tourneys are the big ones that you should be paying attention to (like MLG, NASL, IPL, etc.). Then, familiarize yourself with the event tracker and only set aside time to watch those. If you have a strange sleep schedule, or a few bucks to spare, add GSL into that lineup. But there is no shame in not being able to follow GSL (I don't =/).
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 13:52:54
September 03 2011 13:52 GMT
#185
On September 03 2011 13:00 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 08:02 Capped wrote:
Being semi new myself, i am here to ask this question.

Why the **** didnt you make this thread 3 months ago -_-

in all seriousness.
In all seriousness, what is it with people censoring themselves? Seems to be a trend amongst newer posters.

To answer your question, we know that TL is pretty unfriendly or at least is perceived as such by many. It's also pretty hard to use, and so we want to change that. This thread is a part of that effort why now and not earlier? Well. I'm sure you know how Blizzard speed works when it comes to projects. TL speed is marginally faster than that.


I was just joking plexa, im not so narrow minded to expect moderators to say "some guy named capped just registered, how to use TL thread, NOW!"

And i censored myself because of the last comment, i dont tend to do it normally, hence my two temp bans already... we live and learn.

and the "in all seriousness" bit was meant to imply the former comment was bullshit ^_^
Useless wet fish.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 14:15:25
September 03 2011 14:14 GMT
#186
Lurk a lot before posting. Having experience in reading posts and threads will give you good insights on what you could and should not write.

If you see a very stupid comment in a thread, don't answer to that, let it go, don't derail the discussion in a troll way, let the admin do their jobs.

When using images in a thread, rescale them to 560 pix large.

If you're making a new thread, take your time to make it interesting and entertaining, provide contents and read twice after writting. Threads are a very important part of TL and the better the content, the better TL is. So please, make awesome threads.

That are my advices
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
September 03 2011 14:22 GMT
#187
Make this your homepage:
Hot Threads Link
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
September 03 2011 14:32 GMT
#188
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WritersBlock
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada91 Posts
September 03 2011 15:36 GMT
#189
Best bet is to just avoid posting in general. Aside from showing support in you favorite players fan club or being the op in a thread where you are posting original worthwhile content posting on tl is almost always a waste of time. With tl's current user base threads update so fast that keeping up with them becomes a full time job so posts that aren't the op of the thread can easily go unread(except by mods, mods read everything and ban for nearly as much =p). Liquibet is a fun tool if you like adding a 4fun betting to your starcraft viewing. TL is also an amazing place to find information on tournaments/streams/patch notes and just general good to know information. It certainly doesn't take 2 weeks to learn how not to post on tl as people are implying. Just read the 10 commandments and realize that having an opinion that is different from the moderators will get banned unless you keep it to yourself(for the most part/maybe a bit over exaggerated).
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
September 03 2011 15:42 GMT
#190
Be willing to admit your wrong and walk away from an argument. And not that snarky "I'm wrong but you're more wrong and here's why", just say you're wrong and walk away.

Oh, and don't lie on the strategy forums, though that's for my benefit.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 17:01:31
September 03 2011 17:00 GMT
#191
I might not have a lot of experience with these forums but I've been a part of more communities than I can count and I have some advice for breaking into a new community that apply here as well.

-Lurk. I normally don't register for forums until I've been browsing them for a couple of months. Observing a community before joining it is the most important thing you can do if you want to be able to fit in nicely with everyone else. You get to see how the moderators enforce the rules, what's considered appropriate/acceptable to post, how people interact and get along with each other, and most importantly, whether you feel like it's a community that's worth your while to join and assimilate into.
-Once you do register, post infrequently, but when you do post, contribute! You're starting from scratch with everyone there, and you're going to have to earn a reputation as a quality poster before you can start fucking around. Only post when you feel like you have something new to contribute to an already going discussion, and do so in an informed, respectful manner. People don't know what to expect from you as a new poster. They're like a cop who just pulled you over: they don't know if you're crazy and have a gun until they walk to the window and talk to you. The analogy ends there :D
-Don't be afraid to stand up for yourself, but don't start shit. There's a difference between a debate and an argument that we're all too familiar with. Don't even toe that line - keep it conversational, don't be afraid to concede points, and you'll be amazed how people will respect what you have to say once you've proven you know what you're talking about and you don't take the flamebait that's sure to be thrown at you by other forum members. Calling a well-known member of the community an idiot is a good way to sabatoge any reputation you were trying to build.

That's all for now, hope it helps :D
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
September 05 2011 01:15 GMT
#192
Enjoy the hilarity that is the Website Feedback Section.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 05 2011 01:40 GMT
#193
On September 04 2011 00:36 WritersBlock wrote:
Best bet is to just avoid posting in general. Aside from showing support in you favorite players fan club or being the op in a thread where you are posting original worthwhile content posting on tl is almost always a waste of time. With tl's current user base threads update so fast that keeping up with them becomes a full time job so posts that aren't the op of the thread can easily go unread(except by mods, mods read everything and ban for nearly as much =p). Liquibet is a fun tool if you like adding a 4fun betting to your starcraft viewing. TL is also an amazing place to find information on tournaments/streams/patch notes and just general good to know information. It certainly doesn't take 2 weeks to learn how not to post on tl as people are implying. Just read the 10 commandments and realize that having an opinion that is different from the moderators will get banned unless you keep it to yourself(for the most part/maybe a bit over exaggerated).

This is complete crap and you know it.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 05 2011 01:41 GMT
#194
cultivate your own unique identity within the community
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 02:05:32
September 05 2011 02:05 GMT
#195
1- Don't even post controversial things until you learn what is what.
2- Don't just skim through 10 commandments.
3- Just like you, other users also don't like to get offended. You can bash on other people's ideas as long as you have good reasons for that. But you can't bash on other people publicly because you can't have good reasons for that.
4- Do not post just because you feel obliged to posting.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
September 05 2011 02:18 GMT
#196
-Don't post for a month
-Get the extension/addon that automatically refreshes the tl sidebars
-Acquaint yourself with the closed threads section (found bottom left) and learn what *not* to do
-Don't "sign" your posts. Your name is already attached to each and every post.

~~xXxGoGoGaDgEtFlOwxXx~~
Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
September 05 2011 03:11 GMT
#197
People in this thread... seriously exaggerating how strict or how high the standards are in this place. I joined, with no worrying or "fear of posting" as some people seem to have, a few months back and I've had no trouble...
There's a place for all your opinions... Jumping on the latest hate bandwagon? Take the next stop at the "Rant Thread". Can't believe Idra just left another game? Take a right at his fanclub, and keep going until you hit the Live Report thread. And let's be honest, TvP is just plain imbalanced right? Well there's a hundred-and-one stops for you here, no need to make a new one! You're home! Welcome! Don't mix up the living room and the bathroom.


Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
September 05 2011 03:20 GMT
#198
As of 12:00 KST 5th September 2011:

The following is a list of the suggestions that have appeared, sorted by the number of times they are mentioned. Plexa, you may want to add this to the OP?
I have grouped some very similar ones, and left others out (Sue me if you want ). Top 5 are in bold.

Do’s
  • Lurk - Includes reading more than you post and thinking hard before creating threads. (22)

  • Put some effort into your posts and be prepared to delete plenty of posts. This means your post must add something to the discussion. (21)

  • Know your place in the community and actively create your own identity. This means respect veterans, mods, your account and don’t shamelessly self promote. (11)

  • Just remember that the names you see on the forums are actually real people somewhere. Picture them as your grandmother, was one suggestion. Value their opinion. (11)

  • Read the Automatic Ban List and the closed threads forum. (9)

  • Use Search Function. (8)
  • Read and follow the Commandments. (8)
  • Write Full Sentences with proper grammar. Try formatting your posts, including using paragraphs and proper tags. (7)
  • Use and update Liquipedia. (6)
  • Read and heed the warnings at the top of threads, especially LR and SFW Pics threads. Remember rules are enforced. (6)
  • Have Fun and try to be positive. If you can chill, chill. (5)
  • Read the entire damn thread before you post in it. (5)
  • Go exploring and learn the history of TL. (5)
  • If you have a question or concern, ask mods. (3)
  • If you think something would benefit the community. Don’t’ ask, just do it! (3)
  • Use the forum index. (2)
  • Download BW replays. (2)
  • Update the Original Post if needed. (2)
  • Play mafia with us! (2)
  • Check the Hot Threads page. (2)
  • Read stuff in the blog section. (2)
  • Learn how to use features like bolding, centering, tlpdising, linking and quoting. (2)
  • The more you post, the more scrutiny you'll be under. (2)
  • Keep your posts relatively short if you expect many people to read them.
  • Put big pictures under spoilers.
  • It's always okay to insult Combat-EX.
  • Don't be afraid to PM people just to tell them a post made you smile or that you thought their arguments were convincing.
  • Contribute whatever you can, whenever it's called for.
  • Try and make newbies welcome.
  • If you edit your post, it is common courtesy to add in a clear "Edit:" to indicate what you have changed.
  • ESPORTS is written in all caps, make sure you aren't hurting it.
  • When using images in a thread, rescale them to 560 pix large.
  • Enjoy the hilarity that is the Website Feedback Section.
  • Minimize sections that you do not read.
  • If you post something really stupid, make sure you edit your post with: "Day9 made me do it".
Don’ts
  • Don't flame and bash people. (10)

  • If you don't like it, don't post about it. This includes making useless arguments like SC2 v BW, or wishing the death of BW. If you must argue, be prepared to admit you are wrong. (9)

  • Don’t whine about balance or theory-craft. (5)

  • Don’t post just for postings sake, which includes one-liners. (5)

  • Don't be an idiot / douche bag. It's really that simple... (5)

  • Don’t martyr. (4)
  • TeamLiquid is not AIM, Google / Yahoo Answers (2), 4chan (4) or Reddit (2).
  • Don’t Troll. (3)
  • Don't post "memes". (3)
  • Don't be a backseat mod. (3)
  • Don't mess with R1CH or Mani. (2)
  • Do not, under any circumstance, ask about your icon. (2)
  • Never browse TL while you’re upset. (2)
  • If a thread shows people disproportionately in support or against an idea, like 95% to 5%, don’t be that 5%.
  • If you get a warning, don't argue with the mod who issued it.
  • Don't quote people just to let everyone know you agree, nobody cares and you just clutter adding nothing.


Hope this helps
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Zirith
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 03:24:16
September 05 2011 03:22 GMT
#199
On September 05 2011 10:40 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 00:36 WritersBlock wrote:
Best bet is to just avoid posting in general. Aside from showing support in you favorite players fan club or being the op in a thread where you are posting original worthwhile content posting on tl is almost always a waste of time. With tl's current user base threads update so fast that keeping up with them becomes a full time job so posts that aren't the op of the thread can easily go unread(except by mods, mods read everything and ban for nearly as much =p). Liquibet is a fun tool if you like adding a 4fun betting to your starcraft viewing. TL is also an amazing place to find information on tournaments/streams/patch notes and just general good to know information. It certainly doesn't take 2 weeks to learn how not to post on tl as people are implying. Just read the 10 commandments and realize that having an opinion that is different from the moderators will get banned unless you keep it to yourself(for the most part/maybe a bit over exaggerated).

This is complete crap and you know it.


I have to agree with that guy, so many posts in 10+ page threads are overlooked, there is essentially no point in posting as almost no one will read it, and even less will respond. Even if they do respond you might have to sift through even more pages just to find it. Picture threads, fan clubs, big announcements, and tournament threads are the only things really worth posting in if you care even the slightest bit about getting your stuff read.

Edit: I feel like I am posting inside an ever shrinking box, where there are decreasing numbers of wholes with which to deliver my messages. I am claustrophobic.
Artosis: "I don't trust hyenas."
GetAtMe
Profile Joined August 2011
42 Posts
September 05 2011 03:26 GMT
#200
PM plexa every time you have a question, he won't mind!
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