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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 16 2011 15:38 GMT
#201
groups being made, check OP in a few.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
AGIANTSMURF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1232 Posts
July 16 2011 16:01 GMT
#202
GL with your Lan guys, hope all goes well.
Thats "Grand-Master" SMURF to you.....
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 17:14:47
July 16 2011 17:03 GMT
#203
It's going well so far.

Check out http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Ipp for stream!! :D


Group E posted : http://challonge.com/dclan6e
Players: Vile.Illusion, nYqFitz, DocFletchLXG, Sadistx
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 16 2011 17:21 GMT
#204
Group H posted: http://challonge.com/dclan6h
Players: GoSu.Sonkie, Kuyzz, Salvex, nYqManiac
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 16 2011 17:48 GMT
#205
Group G Hydra-style Group of Death Posted: http://challonge.com/dclan6g
Players: Cryptic, IXCMaestro, bwlove, vGAnfield, Tethys
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 16 2011 20:08 GMT
#206
Grackets: http://challonge.com/dclan6bracket
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 22:33:24
July 16 2011 22:29 GMT
#207
sorry about not having an event for this ahead of time guys, pretty big fail on my part (I assumed it was done a while ago for some reason)

all my immediate staff contacts werent around today ett/intrigue/chris and my last hope zlasher fell through.

gahhhh I feel bad for ipp, comes to cast an event that doesn't exist...
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 16 2011 22:34 GMT
#208
Yeah, it was lame, but it's all good. Hope everyone who went home had a good time and good luck to all the players still in the tournament!!


It's possible ItsGosu might stream for us, not sure, but if you see him featured up there, tune in!
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
FLiPNoTiK
Profile Joined May 2007
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 02:00:37
July 17 2011 01:59 GMT
#209
I assume the next LAN is gonna be a week before MLG Raleigh, right??
Salvex
Profile Joined July 2011
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 02:32:05
July 17 2011 02:30 GMT
#210
DC lan's are epic and awesome, Ipp will be casting the entire event from location with tv monitors setup for observing. Anyone of any skill level can participate in the tournament, we encourage everyone to play or at least come out and spectate and hang out with other TL members and sc2 players!


Maybe I just came at a very bad time, but this is misleading. I signed up to play, obviously not expecting to win but just for fun and to give me something to do besides JUST spectate. I mainly came to meet some other Starcraft players that are skilled, and converse a bit while watching games. However this environment is very poor for anything but playing against the assigned players. The room is small, crammed, and completely dark. There little communication going on between players, and there is not a real location for players to just converse and meet one another. Perhaps I just expected too much out of this, I don't know. If I had to give any advice from my experience, I would say do not come unless your local, or high masters or grandmasters league. This is not at all supportive of lower league players. I left for 15mins to grab some food, return to find I'm locked out of the computer I was at, the commentator had left, and the place was completely dead. Also, I was still logged into my account while being locked out of the computer. I had to do some very fast alt+tab spamming to close out of Starcraft.

To the guys that were responsible for arranging and carrying out this event, I am sorry for this negative reply, but it seems to be way too inviting for such little return. I do however think it has potential to be way better, so I wish you luck.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 17 2011 03:05 GMT
#211
On July 17 2011 11:30 Salvex wrote:
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DC lan's are epic and awesome, Ipp will be casting the entire event from location with tv monitors setup for observing. Anyone of any skill level can participate in the tournament, we encourage everyone to play or at least come out and spectate and hang out with other TL members and sc2 players!


Maybe I just came at a very bad time, but this is misleading. I signed up to play, obviously not expecting to win but just for fun and to give me something to do besides JUST spectate. I mainly came to meet some other Starcraft players that are skilled, and converse a bit while watching games. However this environment is very poor for anything but playing against the assigned players. The room is small, crammed, and completely dark. There little communication going on between players, and there is not a real location for players to just converse and meet one another. Perhaps I just expected too much out of this, I don't know. If I had to give any advice from my experience, I would say do not come unless your local, or high masters or grandmasters league. This is not at all supportive of lower league players. I left for 15mins to grab some food, return to find I'm locked out of the computer I was at, the commentator had left, and the place was completely dead. Also, I was still logged into my account while being locked out of the computer. I had to do some very fast alt+tab spamming to close out of Starcraft.

To the guys that were responsible for arranging and carrying out this event, I am sorry for this negative reply, but it seems to be way too inviting for such little return. I do however think it has potential to be way better, so I wish you luck.


Most of that is because of the venue. It's hard to find a LAN center that isn't a smoker infested shithole, but Cybergrounds is FAR FAR better than the place where we used to hold these LANs before.

The couch and the TV is the area where you can converse tho Don't think thats a problem. The reason people try to get their matches over quickly is because the lan would take even longer otherwise.

I left for 15mins to grab some food, return to find I'm locked out of the computer I was at, the commentator had left, and the place was completely dead.


Locking people out of computers is their new retarded policy which we shouldn't stand for. The fact that the commentator left isn't a fault of any organizers that were present. We are usually featured on TL as an event and much better covered.

This is not at all supportive of lower league players.


Yeah, that's probably true, what did you expect in particular though? It's a competition first and foremost. We also usually go to dinner after the LAN, so that's another social place where you could chill
Salvex
Profile Joined July 2011
United States7 Posts
July 17 2011 03:15 GMT
#212


Show nested quote +
This is not at all supportive of lower league players.


Yeah, that's probably true, what did you expect in particular though? It's a competition first and foremost. We also usually go to dinner after the LAN, so that's another social place where you could chill




Well, I was hoping to first play against players in my own league. I played vs a grandmaster first, then two masters. I sort of assumed lower level players could continue to practice after being eliminated as well but I wasn't getting much of a response from the channel. Oh well, I'm starting to sound way to QQish XD. In summary, its just not what I expected.
siNdreAd
Profile Joined February 2010
United States40 Posts
July 17 2011 03:47 GMT
#213
Hey Salvex - I've gone to the last three and it seems people generally come to meet up with their particular group of friends and hang out/discuss the event etc. That said, I usually try to just keep to my group of friends but always end up meeting and talking strategy with some very cool people.

Not to sound like a shrink but did you make an effort to meet people?

Lans are generally small crammed and dark and I guess that's just the way it is for some reason . Just say "excuse me" and make your way. No big deal. I think next time I'm bringing a flashlight for setting up though.

The couch area (later on when the tournament is deeper) is definitely the place to meet people and observe some cool games.

The field is definitely pretty solid as a whole. Maybe you could bring some friends on your level to come and help diversify the field. I encourage my friends of all levels to come. Like you, I come just for the fun of it.

I'm totally with you about getting booted off the computers. I mean I'd be fine with getting up if the tournament was so big we needed to rotate computers, as long as I'd be allowed to sit at another computer when it opens up. I was under the impression that our buy-ins partly pay for a day/some number of hours of use on one computer at the cyber cafe. Yet today I was booted off my PC only to sit and wait out my friends' games while there are at least three empty computers right next to me. Not having a PC all/most of the day definitely takes away from "going for a day of video game fun" aspect. If we had the PC for the day it would be much easier to meet people, practice games, etc. I'm considering not attending anymore lans for this reason alone. If I'm going out there I want to be able to play some games for fun, browse the web, follow the tournament etc. I don't have time to play enough to consider going just with the intention of competing. So I agree that if they don't change this, it wont be an "all-levels" friendly event at all.

Anyway, you had some good points and I hope to see you at the next lan--

StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 17 2011 04:20 GMT
#214
I think the lack of a Particular professional gamers with the sexy Red Oz Jacket (Jaedong) Really impacted the experience for the new comers.


Hopefully next time this mysterious person will stop going out on out of state / out of country trips and return to the NoVa community.

that or get him out of jail




Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Corrupt61587
Profile Joined September 2009
United States366 Posts
July 17 2011 04:21 GMT
#215
Yeah the biggest issue currently is that the LAN center is being a little ass backward in regards to their PC usage policies. A lot of people just play and leave because it can be rather dull sitting around for 8 hours waiting for the group stages to wrap up (and more importantly, waiting for delicious korean bbq). This contributes to the other issue you bring up in that more casual players aren't showing up. It's a lot more difficult to build community at these events when nobody can play once they're knocked out of the tournament...

Alas, it is what it is. We work with what's available around here
Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
July 17 2011 04:30 GMT
#216
Are you really not allowed to play after you've been knocked out? I thought $10 of the entry fee went towards the prize pool and the other $10 went towards all-day access. I know the guy at the front desk walked around and was asking me if I was still in the tournament, but I didn't know he had planned to kick me off if I said no.

Also that guy is kind of a jerk and creepy, but who am I to judge. It really is still infinitely better than the other place.
beep beep boop
Arkansassy
Profile Joined October 2010
358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 04:37:34
July 17 2011 04:33 GMT
#217
On July 17 2011 12:05 Sadistx wrote:The fact that the commentator left isn't a fault of any organizers that were present. We are usually featured on TL as an event and much better covered.

Thanks for making that known, Sadistx. I agree. The organizers always have things... well ...organized. lol.

And when I'm watching the stream, there's people sitting on that couch, eating, laughing, talking, having fun.

Sorry, you had such a bad time of it, Salvex, but don't give up.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 17 2011 04:42 GMT
#218
On July 17 2011 12:15 Salvex wrote:
Show nested quote +


This is not at all supportive of lower league players.


Yeah, that's probably true, what did you expect in particular though? It's a competition first and foremost. We also usually go to dinner after the LAN, so that's another social place where you could chill




Well, I was hoping to first play against players in my own league. I played vs a grandmaster first, then two masters. I sort of assumed lower level players could continue to practice after being eliminated as well but I wasn't getting much of a response from the channel. Oh well, I'm starting to sound way to QQish XD. In summary, its just not what I expected.


I think it's kind of because most of us know each other already. I meet at least 3-4 new people every LAN. Just get up and bother people during the LAN, haha. Despite everyone looking like they're in the zone, I have yet to meet someone who is like "yo dude gtfo" when you ask em about this or that in between matches.


I'm sorry the event wasn't up to your expectations, however as Sadistx said, the couch + casting area is the place to meet new people afterh the tournament. However we had some scheduling issues in this particular tournament which resulted in the casters leaving and that kind of lowered that. Thanks Redmage for setting up back there. I personally had to leave as I am leaving for a 6 hour drive in 30 minutes to get there by 7am. Sorry! :p


To address some other things, yes the LAN center is getting a little more strict on their PC policies. I hate having to bug people to get off their PCs when the LAN is over, because I disagree that we should have to pay "extra" when they already take half hte buy in. 20 dollars is a LOT to pay for a LAN. If we could do a 10 dollar or a 5 dollar buy in, I think a lot of lower league and further away players would come to play in the LANs. I think our 20 dollar buy in is why most of the turn out is people who have a legit chance at making it to 1-4th place.

However the LAN center is a business and we can't justify a no-pay situation (like they'd let us anyways) and if we lower the prize pool we're cutting the pool in half. Plus if they are only going to let us play for only tournament time, we'd have to get like...a 15 dollar buy in or something, which is even more dumb haha. I disagree that we should have to pay extra but it's on the LAN center to decide that, and if you've been to the last 3 to 4 LANs you can tell they are tightening the grip on us more and more. Sorry to be dramatic but it's what's happening. Rob and I might have a plan to remedy this. (DC Homestory sup)

Also after the LANs, and every Saturday night, we do a Korean BBQ dinner, 10 bucks for an endless amount of meat. THAT is the place to meet people, because as stated...the LAN is more of our competition half of social gatherings, and we have fun and chat about whatever at the dinners every weekend. Get yourself to the DC Weekly dinner thread and meet with us! There's about 8-10 "regulars" and the occasional new guy that comes to hang out with us but I think once you come to a dinner or two you'll start to see beyond the fact that it's not a good event for lower level players, and more that it's just to play with your friends in a tournament atmosphere.

Anyways, I saw Rob lost 9000 games to Avilo, that must have taken forever. Thanks again to everyone who came out, and thanks to all the players that put up with me being the "are you done on the PC" nazi that I hate being. <3
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 17 2011 04:46 GMT
#219
On July 17 2011 13:33 Arkansassy wrote:
On July 17 2011 12:05 Sadistx wrote:The fact that the commentator left isn't a fault of any organizers that were present. We are usually featured on TL as an event and much better covered.

Thanks for making that known, Sadistx. I agree. The organizers always have things... well ...organized. lol.

And when I'm watching the stream, there's people sitting on that couch, eating, laughing, talking, having fun.

Sorry, you had such a bad time of it, Salvex, but don't give up.


Aye. It was because we weren't an event, and the stream wasn't attracting anything as it was.


Also I am the manager of Tits Gaming, Arkansassy, we'll take care of Avilo until he finds a new team. He did tell you he joined, right?


Anyways, our usual event listers couldn't be reached for legit RL reasons, and Zlasher couldn't/wouldn't do it, so we didn't get tagged on the Calendar. I kind of disagree with Sadistx, Rob and I should have been less relaxed about getting it up there...we figured we could wait a bit until the groups started to steady out and Ipp would have enough games to cast. By the time we got to asking other mods outside our usual ones, we had already lost the cast, haha.

Anyways, it's not a huge deal. Yeah having no stream/cast in the back sucks, but it was still a great and fun event either way.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
July 17 2011 05:01 GMT
#220
On July 17 2011 13:46 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 13:33 Arkansassy wrote:
On July 17 2011 12:05 Sadistx wrote:The fact that the commentator left isn't a fault of any organizers that were present. We are usually featured on TL as an event and much better covered.

Thanks for making that known, Sadistx. I agree. The organizers always have things... well ...organized. lol.

And when I'm watching the stream, there's people sitting on that couch, eating, laughing, talking, having fun.

Sorry, you had such a bad time of it, Salvex, but don't give up.


Aye. It was because we weren't an event, and the stream wasn't attracting anything as it was.


Also I am the manager of Tits Gaming, Arkansassy, we'll take care of Avilo until he finds a new team. He did tell you he joined, right?


Anyways, our usual event listers couldn't be reached for legit RL reasons, and Zlasher couldn't/wouldn't do it, so we didn't get tagged on the Calendar. I kind of disagree with Sadistx, Rob and I should have been less relaxed about getting it up there...we figured we could wait a bit until the groups started to steady out and Ipp would have enough games to cast. By the time we got to asking other mods outside our usual ones, we had already lost the cast, haha.

Anyways, it's not a huge deal. Yeah having no stream/cast in the back sucks, but it was still a great and fun event either way.

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