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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
May 08 2011 00:12 GMT
#741
On May 08 2011 09:10 butchji wrote:
You take yourself too serious. @ admins


It's because of our great admins that he even have a community site like this
Capn Cruncher
Profile Joined May 2011
1 Post
May 08 2011 00:12 GMT
#742
[image loading]

User was warned for this post
tilduh
Profile Joined August 2010
53 Posts
May 08 2011 00:13 GMT
#743
Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section. Our stream list is an informational resource much like the TLPD, Calendar, or Liquipedia.

This is the most interesting part of the post imho Idra calling him a waste of life occured on Idras stream. Where he creates the content where the viewers want to see his BM, other then being listed on TLs information resource page it has nothing to do with TL.
Arzey
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1 Post
May 08 2011 00:13 GMT
#744
I'd just like to say that I appreciate the mods' decision here. I've been aware of TeamLiquid.net for years, but I have never posted until now because I was under the false impression that professional gamers and longtime members were given too much preferential treatment.

I appreciate that IdrA is an excellent player and a respected member of the community, but I find it difficult to deny that he delights in ignoring the rules and treating people poorly. To realize that the TeamLiquid mods are also troubled by his behavior and willing to make an unpopular move in order to protect their community increases my respect for everyone here tenfold.

Thank you for upholding the standards that every other poster is rightfully held to and making newcomers like myself feel welcome here.
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 08 2011 00:13 GMT
#745
On May 08 2011 09:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:10 elmizzt wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
Well, mods insult people from time to time, stuff that's worse than "waste of life" too.

Regular users too, but there is always the possibility it was just overlooked.


What I don't understand is how this deserves it's own thread. There's a thread for discussing bans. Right below this one.
I guess someone wants to show how incredibly justified this is supposed to be. And cause more drama on the way. Yay for more drama.

No, there is a thread for it because otherwise, the hundreds of posts on the subject would be spread out all over the forum instead of minimized to one thread.


If there was no thread, half the people wouldn't even have heard about this.
I certainly found out through this thread.

Just because you found out through this thread doesn't mean you wouldn't have heard about it through some other venue otherwise.
d=(^_^)z
Blardy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
May 08 2011 00:13 GMT
#746
I still can't believe he got banned for telling someone they're a "waste of life". Shit I hear worse things from 7-8 year olds. Some people are just to sensitive.
Helluva
Profile Joined September 2010
United States651 Posts
May 08 2011 00:13 GMT
#747
Ah, unfortunate but maybe it'll teach IdrA a lesson.
Well, probably not.. I guess we'll see.
<3
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 08 2011 00:13 GMT
#748
On May 08 2011 09:13 tilduh wrote:
Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section. Our stream list is an informational resource much like the TLPD, Calendar, or Liquipedia.

This is the most interesting part of the post imho Idra calling him a waste of life occured on Idras stream. Where he creates the content where the viewers want to see his BM, other then being listed on TLs information resource page it has nothing to do with TL.

It was on TL.
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Quallen
Profile Joined August 2010
United States42 Posts
May 08 2011 00:14 GMT
#749
On a personal level I think chill had it coming with the way he told the community to troll and harass SAF.Jesus (bigT) [the stream was funny up until that point] but that certainly doesn't excuse idra. Theres the whole villain persona and then there is just being childish ... no winners here, sad for everyone involved.
Zurachi
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada289 Posts
May 08 2011 00:14 GMT
#750
If this was anyone other than Idra, he would have been permabanned a LONG time ago with his immature and bad mannered posting. Good riddance.
@ZurachiTV | www.youtube.com/ZurachiTV | "Satisfaction is the beginning of regression."
Xanderk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States51 Posts
May 08 2011 00:14 GMT
#751
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
May 08 2011 00:14 GMT
#752
At least it isn't permanent... That's good.
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
May 08 2011 00:15 GMT
#753
On May 08 2011 09:13 Blardy wrote:
I still can't believe he got banned for telling someone they're a "waste of life". Shit I hear worse things from 7-8 year olds. Some people are just to sensitive.

The 90 day ban is for harassment of TL staff. The original 2 day ban is and should be viewed as a separate issue.
☢
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
May 08 2011 00:15 GMT
#754
On May 08 2011 09:13 Blardy wrote:
I still can't believe he got banned for telling someone they're a "waste of life". Shit I hear worse things from 7-8 year olds. Some people are just to sensitive.


Have you even bothered to read the TL.net Ten Commandments?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 08 2011 00:15 GMT
#755
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


On May 08 2011 06:44 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 06:37 TL.net Bot wrote:
IdrA was just temp banned for 90 days by Liquid`Nazgul.

That account was created on 2004-07-31 20:59:50 and had 11027 posts.

Reason: A few days ago, one of our moderators (Chill) banned Idra for 2 days. After the ban, Idra encouraged his fans, through twitter, to harass and spam him on TL.

We spoke with Idra and he stated that he does not regret his actions and will not change his behavior on our forums
. Thus, we've decided to ban him for 90 days. Regardless of whether he felt the 2-day ban was justified or not, we cannot tolerate a forum user publicly encouraging harassment of our moderators.

We understand that this decision may be unpopular among Greg's fans, but we have warned and banned him before about his conduct toward our staff members. We simply cannot accept this sort of abuse and insults directed toward our volunteer staff members who work very hard to make TL what it is.

Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section. Our stream list is an informational resource much like the TLPD, Calendar, or Liquipedia. We believe for these resources to function properly, they must be comprehensive and complete and thus we do not remove banned pro players from them.

Feel free to discuss this here as long as things stay civilized. We're going to ban for flames and insults from either side.

Read the bolded part.
WriterXiao8~~
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 08 2011 00:15 GMT
#756
On May 08 2011 09:12 roknir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 07:11 pStar wrote:
On May 08 2011 07:00 Chill wrote:
On May 08 2011 06:59 shmee wrote:
On May 08 2011 06:55 Chill wrote:
On May 08 2011 06:53 shmee wrote:
I completely understand banning idra for his incendiary behavior, but has Team Liquid taken any action to punish Cruncher for ghosting idra's stream, which was the thing that started this whole mess? Does teamliquid have any kind of statement in regards to that?

There's nothing wrong with joining the ladder at the same time as someone else. What action could we possibly take against that?


So if you were streaming, and you got matched up against idra, and he magically knew everything you were doing only to find out later that he was checking your stream to see everything you were doing, you wouldn't have any problem with that?

No.


This is honestly ridiculous.

How is that ok in anyway?


I wonder why this hasn't been addressed in any way too.

It isn't necessary to address this because there is no hard evidence that Cruncher was stream ghosting. Stream SNIPING is different from stream GHOSTING.
d=(^_^)z
[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
May 08 2011 00:16 GMT
#757
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?

Idra is telling his upset fans to PM Chill. What do you think would happen, a civil conversation?
☢
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 00:17:03
May 08 2011 00:16 GMT
#758
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


It doesnt say it, but implies it. And it happend. And thats what idra wanted.

...
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 08 2011 00:16 GMT
#759
On May 08 2011 09:06 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:03 BurningSera wrote:
if idra did 'apologize', he would be automatically admitting that he 'intended' to cause the harm. if you were idra, would you 'apologize' (over nothing but just to please TL)??


I would say, sorry for this unintended consequence. It was a funny post I did while being grumpy and I didn't mean for people to spam Chill.

This shows he didn't mean for it to do that while also showing he didn't want chill to get spammed. He also doesn't admit that was his intention. It took me ~10 seconds to think up, Idra is most likely smarter than me.


well there you go. if he was 'nice'(pretending he is sorry, from our normal social view), he says sorry, then good for him. if he doesnt, there is nothing wrong with that. TL is not happy and banned him for 3months.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Tialuram
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands51 Posts
May 08 2011 00:17 GMT
#760
Good call imho. Mind your manners sir!
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