Idra Banned for 90 Days - Page 40

On May 08 2011 09:20 Dysz wrote:
The only thing Idra did was to call Cruncher a waste of life. So what? If he feels like that, why not let him? Since when can you not have opinions about another person?

Besides Cruncher was cheating and BM so it was seen comming. I think waste of life isnt even something rly that bm to say.

Its funny how some TL staff dont see its okey to state what Idra said, when i think they would do it thmselves if someone was chating against them. Supporting cheating in a rts game is like what?

On May 08 2011 06:37 TL.net Bot wrote:
IdrA was just temp banned for 90 days by Liquid`Nazgul.

That account was created on 2004-07-31 20:59:50 and had 11027 posts.

Reason: A few days ago, one of our moderators (Chill) banned Idra for 2 days. After the ban, Idra encouraged his fans, through twitter, to harass and spam him on TL.

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On May 08 2011 09:21 PraetorianX wrote:
90 days. Whoa. Whooaa.

For the 2 day ban Idra punished the community by stopping his beloved stream w/ commentary, and encouraged his fans to spam Chill in retaliation.

What will he do now? Kill a family of cute kittens? Invade Belgium? I can't even comprehend the epic rage he must be exhibiting right now. I'm sure he is plotting his revenge as we speak.

But really, what could he possible do? Start his own forum?

On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?

On May 08 2011 09:21 BurningSera wrote:


exactly. nobody knows if he implied anything.

i'm guessing that idra didnt admit that he 'intended' to cause the harm. TL banned him for 3months. if he did admit but didnt apologize, he deserves it tho.

On May 08 2011 09:21 PraetorianX wrote:
90 days. Whoa. Whooaa.

For the 2 day ban Idra punished the community by stopping his beloved stream w/ commentary, and encouraged his fans to spam Chill in retaliation.

What will he do now? Kill a family of cute kittens? Invade Belgium? I can't even comprehend the epic rage he must be exhibiting right now. I'm sure he is plotting his revenge as we speak.

But really, what could he possible do? Start his own forum?

On May 08 2011 09:23 tofucake wrote:
I've always been a fan of the "if you have to insult someone to make your point, then you have no point". The fact that so many people are resulting to insulting IdrA/CrunCher/TL Staff/each other is depressing me.

I'd much rather see rational, level headed discussion, in which we all try to understand the other side's point of view.

On May 08 2011 09:15 TheRhox wrote:


Have you even bothered to read the TL.net Ten Commandments?

On May 08 2011 08:47 Morfildur wrote:


If you don't want to be ghosted because you care about winning, there is a simple solution:
The "Off" Button on your Streaming client.

If you stream, people _will_ ghost you. It's cheating, it's bad, but it's still a fact. You either shrug it off as it was just ladder anyways, not even a tournament, or you shut down your stream and prevent it.

I bet anyone streaming his games was already ghosted (well, except me, but my stream has zero viewers anyways :p), but you don't hear any other streamer complaining about other people being a waste of life.

On May 08 2011 09:25 jmbthirteen wrote:


Not apologizing for the harass that Chill received from it seems to me like he implied it.

On May 08 2011 09:25 zeru wrote:

I agree . I dont understand how people can complain and say that the moderation is too harsh on TL, personally i don't think it's nearly strict enough. People still claiming cruncher cheated is pretty bad too, when all the evidence we actually have points towards the opposite.

On May 08 2011 09:24 pak150 wrote:



I don't agree with the statement that he "encouraged his fans, through twitter, to harass and spam him on TL." IdrA's twitter post simply states "wont be streaming for 2 days as i have been banned from tl for insulting cruncher, everyone pm Chill if this upsets you." There's nothing wrong with his suggestion, and nowhere does it encourage "harassing" or "spamming." If someone thinks they've been wronged, it's perfectly reasonable to ask people to speak up for them and to contact those responsible. It's almost like Yelp. If someone has a terrible experience someplace, they encourage other people to complain on their behalf.

I'm definitely not up to speed on the issue, but it seems that IrdA and Chill have some bad blood going on (see, for example, idra v combatex where idra lambasts combatex for losing to Chill). I think it's dangerous to have a mod ban someone when he personally dislikes and/or has an issue with them. Perhaps Chill should have deferred to another (disinterested) mod before hitting the ban button.

Also, the bottom line is that love him or hate him, IdrA brings some spice to this forum — especially when it involves Cruncher. IdrA knows it, Cruncher knows it, and everyone else (except the mods, for whatever reason) knows it. The fact that they talk trash/troll each other is harmless and entertaining.

On May 08 2011 09:25 Kaonis wrote:

Well, everyone's past the point of rational discussion; both sides have been presented, and the details have been gone over. There's not really a "right" answer in this case, just the answer the mods gave, however popular or unpopular it is.

So, really, all that's left is to insult each other :D

On May 08 2011 09:23 tofucake wrote:
I've always been a fan of the "if you have to insult someone to make your point, then you have no point". The fact that so many people are resulting to insulting IdrA/CrunCher/TL Staff/each other is depressing me.

I'd much rather see rational, level headed discussion, in which we all try to understand the other side's point of view.

On May 08 2011 09:23 Wrecken wrote:
The TL staff are favoring Cruncher over Idra, probably due to personal reasons, but hopefully everything will be sorted out.