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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 08 2011 00:34 GMT
#821
I'm curious... if so many of IdrA's fans believe he wasn't implying that he wanted them to harass Chill... why did they all go harass Chill? Did they just want their hero to look like he had an irrational fanbase? Or are they trying desperately to justify his childish reaction? It can only be one...
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
May 08 2011 00:34 GMT
#822
Yes he clearly didnt deserve this 90 days temp ban.....

Instead should get a permaban already. Cant believe the nerve from the "fans" of Idra. If this was anyone else and if Idra didnt get such a favored treatment from TL he would get 5 permabans till now with all the shit hes been pulling out on TL.

Yes get your heads of your asses and stop being such a dicks to Chill and the other TL moderators because they tolerated Idra so far but enough is enough.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
dderoma
Profile Joined May 2010
United States11 Posts
May 08 2011 00:35 GMT
#823
I disagree with the ban on Idra.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 08 2011 00:35 GMT
#824
On May 08 2011 06:47 Ichabod wrote:
Nazgul, I believe that link goes to the mod thread, is it essentially a link to this though?
http://i.imgur.com/cULBN.jpg
^Posted by Kennigit on Reddit
WOW I had no idea it was THAT bad :O
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
May 08 2011 00:35 GMT
#825
Well. This blows. I'm glad to see that his stream will still be listed.

On another note, will his fanclub be reopened?
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 08 2011 00:35 GMT
#826
On May 08 2011 09:32 Blardy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:25 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:21 BurningSera wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:19 Senx wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:18 meep wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:16 Senx wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


It doesnt say it, but implies it. And it happend. And thats what idra wanted.

...



you're only assuming that he implied it.

...


and you're assuming he didn't imply it.

...lets keep going


exactly. nobody knows if he implied anything.

i'm guessing that idra didnt admit that he 'intended' to cause the harm. TL banned him for 3months. if he did admit but didnt apologize, he deserves it tho.


Not apologizing for the harass that Chill received from it seems to me like he implied it.


You can't blame him for what others did. He didn't force anyone to do anything.

He didn't force them to but he certainly told them to. Idra isn't dumb. He knew what kind of PMs Chill would be getting. Chill would have gotten them without the tweet. But tweeting about it increased the amount drastically.
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Tranqje
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 00:37:36
May 08 2011 00:35 GMT
#827
On May 08 2011 09:34 JingleHell wrote:
I'm curious... if so many of IdrA's fans believe he wasn't implying that he wanted them to harass Chill... why did they all go harass Chill? Did they just want their hero to look like he had an irrational fanbase? Or are they trying desperately to justify his childish reaction? It can only be one...


178 does not equal all, not even by a long shot. Infact, if you like at it your way he didn't want people to harras chill, cause like 15k people did not.

So yes, your argument is flawed...
If you watch jaws backwards it's about a shark throwing up so many people they have to open up a beach
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 00:37:30
May 08 2011 00:36 GMT
#828
no one is above the law

fair decision imo, wish there wasn't so much drama over this it really isn't a big deal

and I don't understand anyone trying to defend him, follow the rules no problem exists, break them you know the consequences. simple as that
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
May 08 2011 00:37 GMT
#829
On May 08 2011 06:59 Artimo wrote:
I wonder if EG sponsors have an opinion about Idra's behavior. sure a little BM is fine. but what Idra does reflects on the sponsors as well. I cant imagine them being very happy with this continued behavior.


I'm interested in that as well actually. My guess is that they don't hear or know about a vast majority of the personal stuff that goes on between players and the community, and perhaps they don't care to know. On the other hand, its publicity, and there isn't such thing as bad publicity so (shrugs) I'm sure that they wouldn't condone a lot of the comments he has made, obviously.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
Philip Jay
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands14 Posts
May 08 2011 00:37 GMT
#830
What happens when more people now start bothering the staff because of this? Will Idra get extra months?
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 08 2011 00:37 GMT
#831
On May 08 2011 09:37 Philip Jay wrote:
What happens when more people now start bothering the staff because of this? Will Idra get extra months?

No, because he had nothing to do with that. Think please...
d=(^_^)z
Bloody101
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
May 08 2011 00:38 GMT
#832
Keeping IdrA's stream to help TL get people to come to the website. Smart thinking
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
May 08 2011 00:38 GMT
#833
On May 08 2011 09:21 Spekulatius wrote:
Just to make sure people don't pull quotes and information out of their asses...

The ban-related posts by IdrA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173866&currentpage=83#1657

http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit (scroll down, not hard to find).

Related posts by Cruncher:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=205926&currentpage=16#301

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=205926&currentpage=23#446

Idra's ban history:

http://i.imgur.com/cULBN.jpg

The rest should be found in the OP by Nazgul.



THANK YOU SIR!!!! (violation of a TL commandment, i know)

This should definitely be added to the OP, thanks again. Needed that info as I was confused about whether the 2 day ban was for a comment on idra's stream or on TL.
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
May 08 2011 00:39 GMT
#834
Teamliquid should leave people alone in their own personal community threads. If Idra wants to vent about cruncher in his own fanclub thread let him. Its his thread where he interacts with his fans. If he posted that in the cruncher fanclub then punish him.

The funniest part is that if you look at what Idra posted in context he was telling people to leave cruncher alone after they started cyber-stalking him to prove he was stream-watching.

Idra tells people to not harass cruncher but to just ignore him and people post this:

On May 08 2011 09:34 SkelA wrote:
Instead should get a permaban already. Cant believe the nerve from the "fans" of Idra. If this was anyone else and if Idra didnt get such a favored treatment from TL he would get 5 permabans till now with all the shit hes been pulling out on TL.


Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
May 08 2011 00:39 GMT
#835
On May 08 2011 09:37 Philip Jay wrote:
What happens when more people now start bothering the staff because of this? Will Idra get extra months?


Why should he? Except he tweets again "flame Chill/Nazgul for my ban extension". But if not, it's not his fault.
Always smile~
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
May 08 2011 00:39 GMT
#836
On May 08 2011 09:24 pak150 wrote:

I don't agree with the statement that he "encouraged his fans, through twitter, to harass and spam him on TL." IdrA's twitter post simply states "wont be streaming for 2 days as i have been banned from tl for insulting cruncher, everyone pm Chill if this upsets you." There's nothing wrong with his suggestion, and nowhere does it encourage "harassing" or "spamming." If someone thinks they've been wronged, it's perfectly reasonable to ask people to speak up for them and to contact those responsible. It's almost like Yelp. If someone has a terrible experience someplace, they encourage other people to complain on their behalf.


Stopping the stream because of the ban was a bit of a petty reaction to begin with, it was bound to trigger some response from his fans that like to watch his stream. And while the twitter message never encourages harassment or spamming, IdrA isn't stupid and he (and noone else here, I'd say) could've expected that these messages the fans would send wouldn't all be attempts at enlightened conversation.

His Twitter message basically boiled down to wanting to make his fans believe that Chill caused him to stop streaming, which was 100% his own decision and in no way a logical consequence to a minor ban (I mean, who hasn't had a short temp-ban on some forum for some heated argument. A 2 day ban sucks, but it's hardly a big deal).

Whatever Cruncher did or didn't do is not really related. It may require further investigation, I don't know, that's for TL to decide. But Crunchers case is independent from IdrAs and should be seen as such.
Such flammable little insects!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 08 2011 00:40 GMT
#837
Yakity Yak, Don't talk Grack! [for 90 days].

Big shame Idra ):
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
May 08 2011 00:40 GMT
#838
On May 08 2011 07:04 meep wrote:
3 months seems a little harsh, in my opinion.

he has been banned like 30 times... so not really.. he just needs to calm down
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
eMazing
Profile Joined January 2011
59 Posts
May 08 2011 00:40 GMT
#839
On May 08 2011 09:39 Dental Floss wrote:
Teamliquid should leave people alone in their own personal community threads. If Idra wants to vent about cruncher in his own fanclub thread let him. Its his thread where he interacts with his fans. If he posted that in the cruncher fanclub then punish him

If IdrA wants to vent he can do it on his own community website not TL.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 08 2011 00:42 GMT
#840
On May 08 2011 09:39 Dental Floss wrote:
Teamliquid should leave people alone in their own personal community threads. If Idra wants to vent about cruncher in his own fanclub thread let him. Its his thread where he interacts with his fans. If he posted that in the cruncher fanclub then punish him.

The funniest part is that if you look at what Idra posted in context he was telling people to leave cruncher alone after they started cyber-stalking him to prove he was stream-watching.

Idra tells people to not harass cruncher but to just ignore him and people post this:

Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:34 SkelA wrote:
Instead should get a permaban already. Cant believe the nerve from the "fans" of Idra. If this was anyone else and if Idra didnt get such a favored treatment from TL he would get 5 permabans till now with all the shit hes been pulling out on TL.




That's actually what bothered me most about the initial 2 day ban, which now unfortunately has led to this. IdrA felt he was cheated against, and instead of railing against cruncher in some profanity laced post, he essentially told people to ignore him.

Also, I wanted to reiterate this point: None of this matters. IdrA can stream and still be seen on Teamliquid. He doesn't post often. He is not banned from Teamliquid events. Literally, all IdrA can not do is post for 90 days, which given his post rate means you'll miss out on about 90 IdrA posts. This doesn't matter.

Quite frankly, neither side should raise a stink about this, and the fact that it does goes to show how engrossed some people are in the community and it should, hopefully, lead them to taking a step back and distancing themselves from this community if they can't respond or react rationally.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
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