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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
Rinnegan5
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 00:37:17
May 08 2011 00:17 GMT
#761
Idra will stay my favorite player. I like ppl who are not acting like sheep.
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
May 08 2011 00:18 GMT
#762
On May 08 2011 09:16 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


It doesnt say it, but implies it. And it happend. And thats what idra wanted.

...



you're only assuming that he implied it.

...
閑静 しずか (ノ・_・)ノ
Pajaropoop
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1 Post
May 08 2011 00:18 GMT
#763
--- Nuked ---
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 08 2011 00:18 GMT
#764
On May 08 2011 09:17 Rinnegan5 wrote:
Idra will stay my favorite player. I ppl who are not acting like sheep.

You must love the TL mods then, judging from all their unpopular decisions!
d=(^_^)z
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 08 2011 00:18 GMT
#765
On May 08 2011 09:18 meep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:16 Senx wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


It doesnt say it, but implies it. And it happend. And thats what idra wanted.

...



you're only assuming that he implied it.

...


On May 08 2011 06:44 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 06:37 TL.net Bot wrote:
IdrA was just temp banned for 90 days by Liquid`Nazgul.

That account was created on 2004-07-31 20:59:50 and had 11027 posts.

Reason: A few days ago, one of our moderators (Chill) banned Idra for 2 days. After the ban, Idra encouraged his fans, through twitter, to harass and spam him on TL.

We spoke with Idra and he stated that he does not regret his actions and will not change his behavior on our forums
. Thus, we've decided to ban him for 90 days. Regardless of whether he felt the 2-day ban was justified or not, we cannot tolerate a forum user publicly encouraging harassment of our moderators.

We understand that this decision may be unpopular among Greg's fans, but we have warned and banned him before about his conduct toward our staff members. We simply cannot accept this sort of abuse and insults directed toward our volunteer staff members who work very hard to make TL what it is.

Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section. Our stream list is an informational resource much like the TLPD, Calendar, or Liquipedia. We believe for these resources to function properly, they must be comprehensive and complete and thus we do not remove banned pro players from them.

Feel free to discuss this here as long as things stay civilized. We're going to ban for flames and insults from either side.

Read the bolded part
WriterXiao8~~
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 08 2011 00:19 GMT
#766
On May 08 2011 09:18 meep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:16 Senx wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


It doesnt say it, but implies it. And it happend. And thats what idra wanted.

...



you're only assuming that he implied it.

...


and you're assuming he didn't imply it.

...lets keep going
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
May 08 2011 00:20 GMT
#767
On May 08 2011 08:46 BurningSera wrote:
ok...so idra said:

'everyone pm Chill if this upsets you'

automatically equals to

'idra encouraged his fans, through twitter, to harass and spam him on TL.'?

no, idra didnt encouraged his fans to harass and spam Chill on TL, idra suggested that if our fans are not happy that he is not streaming(which caused by the ban), we can complain/talk to Chill if we wish. whereas, if some immature fans who harassed/spamed Chill, their actions are not within idra's responsibility.

i take this as TL made this 30days ban because TL wanna punish us fans (especially those who harassed/spammed Chill).

i fully understand that this is TL's sc2 forum, and you guys have the absolute power, but cant you guys settle things with a warmer method?? at least use some less provoking methods so that you dont cause more rages/angst from people/fans??

if you look at the whole thing, nobody is a winner.


You would make a terrible lawyer
Dead girls don't say no.
Dysz
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden26 Posts
May 08 2011 00:20 GMT
#768
The only thing Idra did was to call Cruncher a waste of life. So what? If he feels like that, why not let him? Since when can you not have opinions about another person?

Besides Cruncher was cheating and BM so it was seen comming. I think waste of life isnt even something rly that bm to say.

Its funny how some TL staff dont see its okey to state what Idra said, when i think they would do it thmselves if someone was chating against them. Supporting cheating in a rts game is like what?
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
May 08 2011 00:20 GMT
#769
Should have been perma banned a long time ago. Makes me question EG's management for not enforcing a respectable level a professionalism from its players.
NoScary
Profile Joined November 2010
United States151 Posts
May 08 2011 00:21 GMT
#770
This whole Cruncher Idra thing has gone a little too far.
"And when he came back to, he was flat on his back on the beach in the freezing sand, and it was raining out of a low sky, and the tide was way out." From birth to death, no time to rest, no time to waste.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 08 2011 00:21 GMT
#771
On May 08 2011 09:18 meep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:16 Senx wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


It doesnt say it, but implies it. And it happend. And thats what idra wanted.

...



you're only assuming that he implied it.

...


Uhm no, it does imply it. You can assume whether he meant it or not but the implication is there in any case.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
May 08 2011 00:21 GMT
#772
Just to make sure people don't pull quotes and information out of their asses...

The ban-related posts by IdrA:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173866&currentpage=83#1657

http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit (scroll down, not hard to find).

Related posts by Cruncher:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=205926&currentpage=16#301

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=205926&currentpage=23#446

Idra's ban history:

http://i.imgur.com/cULBN.jpg

The rest should be found in the OP by Nazgul.

Always smile~
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 08 2011 00:21 GMT
#773
On May 08 2011 09:19 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:18 meep wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:16 Senx wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


It doesnt say it, but implies it. And it happend. And thats what idra wanted.

...



you're only assuming that he implied it.

...


and you're assuming he didn't imply it.

...lets keep going


exactly. nobody knows if he implied anything.

i'm guessing that idra didnt admit that he 'intended' to cause the harm. TL banned him for 3months. if he did admit but didnt apologize, he deserves it tho.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
PraetorianX
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden780 Posts
May 08 2011 00:21 GMT
#774
90 days. Whoa. Whooaa.

For the 2 day ban Idra punished the community by stopping his beloved stream w/ commentary, and encouraged his fans to spam Chill in retaliation.

What will he do now? Kill a family of cute kittens? Invade Belgium? I can't even comprehend the epic rage he must be exhibiting right now. I'm sure he is plotting his revenge as we speak.

But really, what could he possible do? Start his own forum?
The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill
[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
May 08 2011 00:22 GMT
#775
On May 08 2011 09:18 meep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:16 Senx wrote:
On May 08 2011 09:14 Xanderk wrote:
"everyone PM chill if this upsets you"

That statement doesn't say "harass and spam chill". Why is IdrA being punished for the bad conduct of his fans?


It doesnt say it, but implies it. And it happend. And thats what idra wanted.

...



you're only assuming that he implied it.

...

Not true actually. If he actually didn't mean it, Idra would have said so to Nazgul when they talked. Idra didn't say so and because he meant it he got banned.
☢
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
May 08 2011 00:22 GMT
#776
The TeamLiquid moderation is harsh. That is fine. I personally would be a bit less harsh, but Im not running the site, am I? Im a pretty big fan of Idras stream and hope he will suck it up and take the ban without punishing the viewers to rally them in a sort of crusade against TL.

Oh, and while the offending action didnt happen on the site, it was directed at the site because of something that happened on the site. Yeah. Ban well deserved.

While going at this topic, yeah, I think Cruncher cheated and wish him the worst of luck in anything related to sc2.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 08 2011 00:23 GMT
#777
On May 08 2011 09:20 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 08:46 BurningSera wrote:
ok...so idra said:

'everyone pm Chill if this upsets you'

automatically equals to

'idra encouraged his fans, through twitter, to harass and spam him on TL.'?

no, idra didnt encouraged his fans to harass and spam Chill on TL, idra suggested that if our fans are not happy that he is not streaming(which caused by the ban), we can complain/talk to Chill if we wish. whereas, if some immature fans who harassed/spamed Chill, their actions are not within idra's responsibility.

i take this as TL made this 30days ban because TL wanna punish us fans (especially those who harassed/spammed Chill).

i fully understand that this is TL's sc2 forum, and you guys have the absolute power, but cant you guys settle things with a warmer method?? at least use some less provoking methods so that you dont cause more rages/angst from people/fans??

if you look at the whole thing, nobody is a winner.


You would make a terrible lawyer


i just love how logic plays out sometimes
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
eMazing
Profile Joined January 2011
59 Posts
May 08 2011 00:23 GMT
#778
On May 08 2011 09:20 Dysz wrote:
The only thing Idra did was to call Cruncher a waste of life. So what? If he feels like that, why not let him? Since when can you not have opinions about another person?

Besides Cruncher was cheating and BM so it was seen comming. I think waste of life isnt even something rly that bm to say.

Its funny how some TL staff dont see its okey to state what Idra said, when i think they would do it thmselves if someone was chating against them. Supporting cheating in a rts game is like what?

If you don't want to read the thread and do not bother to look at the whole story, stop posting. IdrA didn't just "call Cruncher a waste of life" he told people on his twitter to go to TL and spam Chill (by him not regretting his actions it does imply that he meant what he meant), which Chill and the TL staff saw as unacceptable and banned IdrA for that.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 00:23:55
May 08 2011 00:23 GMT
#779
On May 08 2011 09:20 Dysz wrote:
The only thing Idra did was to call Cruncher a waste of life. So what? If he feels like that, why not let him? Since when can you not have opinions about another person?

Besides Cruncher was cheating and BM so it was seen comming. I think waste of life isnt even something rly that bm to say.

Its funny how some TL staff dont see its okey to state what Idra said, when i think they would do it thmselves if someone was chating against them. Supporting cheating in a rts game is like what?


First of all you can't prove Cruncher was cheating so get off it already.
Second of all There are rules that people should agree with before posting
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19258 Posts
May 08 2011 00:23 GMT
#780
I've always been a fan of the "if you have to insult someone to make your point, then you have no point". The fact that so many people are resulting to insulting IdrA/CrunCher/TL Staff/each other is depressing me.

I'd much rather see rational, level headed discussion, in which we all try to understand the other side's point of view.
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