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On the Japan 9.0 earthquake thread, ryanAnger suggested that we start a fundraising tournament to raise money for relief efforts.
We could donate to the Red Cross or something *, but I'm thinking it might be more effective to donate directly to Dr. Norihiko Kuwayama of Tohoku International Clinic, a physician/psychiatrist/humanitarian medical aid worker living and working in the area hit hardest by the tsunami. He's looking for money and manpower to help the endless wave of tsunami/earthquake victims. He's got people coming in who've lost absolutely everything, including prescription medication that they rely on for survival.
The clinic survived the tsunami because it's on top of a small hill, but there's a water grave just outside his door. There's likely hundreds or thousands dead just outside his door.
Some more information about his aid work here. Long story short, he travels around ravaged places like Gaza, Cambodia, Bosnia, Iran etc. as an emergency surgeon, therapist, and general physician. Right now he's applying his crisis relief doctor experience in his hometown. He's particularly experienced with scenes of earthquakes and wars.
We are looking for participants and organizational advice/assistance. Please comment.
Link to the Vancouver arm website for the doctor's organization, Stage Earth: http://www.stage-earth.ca
* If you are donating to the Red Cross, please be sure to donate to the Japanese Red Cross Society. We received an email from a lawyer in Vancouver saying that the fine print in the BC Red Cross suggests that the money will be spent on other unspecified things. It's probably safe to assume that other branches will do the same.
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As i said in the original earthquake thread, i think this is a great idea. And i still think TL staff should get into this aswell. Maybe even running it.
I would just donate and play a game even though i'm completely scrub if it goes that way. I really hope this happens!
And btw, i think this thread deserves a spotlight so it gets more visibility.
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We should allow the quake to do significant enough dmg, so that we may invade, and enslave them.
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Yes! We're in the process of brainstorming some ideas too. All of us should put our heads together and rally the community into giving. Let's do this!
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On March 14 2011 20:06 PlagueRat wrote: We should allow the quake to do significant enough dmg, so that we may invade, and enslave them. The hell is wrong with you, man? )):
OP, this sounds like a great idea. Best of luck with it!
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Thanks all, yeah, we should totally do this. I'm going to put a lot of time into it.
I'll let you know if we come up with any good ideas at the meeting tomorrow.
Going to need a lot of help putting this together -- but that's what the Web's good at, right?
Even if we don't make an insane amount of money for them, I think they'll be happy to see such an ethnically diverse community like TL wishing them well. A lot of them are feeling really lonely out there without power or homes or communication and in many cases without family.
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>< I would totally participate, but my computer sucks so I probably can't play for it. Maybe there can be a Broodwar variant? :D
But totally behind this movement. I'm trying to set up stuff at my school as well. It's good to see grassroots stuff trying to pull together resources like this.
Edit: I think if I set up something at school, I'd like to send it to the same place as this doctor here. Is there any specific place you guys were thinking about sending?
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Sounds like a very nice idea, if it can be pulled of properly it could be great.
On March 14 2011 20:06 PlagueRat wrote: We should allow the quake to do significant enough dmg, so that we may invade, and enslave them.
Not even slightest bit funny.
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On March 14 2011 21:56 Zergneedsfood wrote: >< I would totally participate, but my computer sucks so I probably can't play for it. Maybe there can be a Broodwar variant? :D
But totally behind this movement. I'm trying to set up stuff at my school as well. It's good to see grassroots stuff trying to pull together resources like this.
Edit: I think if I set up something at school, I'd like to send it to the same place as this doctor here. Is there any specific place you guys were thinking about sending?
Brood War might work too, if we can figure out the logistics for it. I think right now it might be better to focus on SC2 since the community is (from what I understand) a lot more populous.
We're going to be setting up PayPal here in Vancouver for the doc's NPO/clinic, so that'll be another option. Maybe the office in Japan can set up a PayPal there too, I'm not too sure. The clinic has no power for the foreseeable future, so they need someone to handle this stuff for them either way. I'll keep you informed.
I think the other good option is the Red Cross. The only downside I'm aware of is that the impact of your contributions aren't as obvious.
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On March 14 2011 20:06 PlagueRat wrote: We should allow the quake to do significant enough dmg, so that we may invade, and enslave them. Your name is very fitting.
Fuck my first 1-liner in awhile T.T
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$2.50 per entry with 10% of the entire proceeds to the winner, 5% to 2nd, 3% to 3rd and the rest to the clinic? Iunno, I'd be up for it.
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On March 14 2011 23:03 Match wrote: $2.50 per entry with 10% of the entire proceeds to the winner, 5% to 2nd, 3% to 3rd and the rest to the clinic? Iunno, I'd be up for it.
Kinda cheap imo. 2.50USD isn't that much of a entry tbh. 40 players would equal total 100USD minus the 10%.
Something like 10-15USD/entry(if you want to play) would be much better. People who cannot play can still donate as much as they want. If there needs to be a prize pool, well i guess 10% is decent. I would play without prizepool anyway.
The only problem is how to get this working. Lets say there is Europeans, sea, US players playing. How many of the players actually have an account to play against other region players?
IMO best idea would be to get somekind of showmatch going on, with casters from GosuCoaching or somewhere else. Donate as much as people wants to and then give %-amount of the "pot" to the winner player if they want a prize pool, yet still giving most of the donations to the red cross or whoever the money is going to be sent.
And i bet there would be some progamers willing to play a bo7 showmatch for the cause.
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On March 14 2011 20:06 PlagueRat wrote: We should allow the quake to do significant enough dmg, so that we may invade, and enslave them.
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Jesus christ, what the fuck are you talking about. People entire lives were swept away and you come out with this?
OP- I think this is a brilliant idea mate. Anything I can do to help, (other than donations, will donate anyway) let me know.
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Yea the showmatch would seem more possible. Like have 2 foreigners play a showmatch and for every unique viewer on the stream, the sponsor(?) would donate a certain amount towards Japan. And the viewers can donate if they want to. It sounds like a great idea because:
1) It helps raise money for people in Japan 2) Could raise a lot of money and get a lot of viewers + publicity if its like 2 big name foreigners. 3) We will see 2 good players duke it out.
I guess the problem would be finding someone to sponsor the tournament. I don't really want to put in any numbers, cause I don't actually know what would be a reasonable amount, but I guess that could be worked out.
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hey so , i thought about this aswell today i might be able run something like that. but it wouldnt be something where each participant pays to play in the tournament but it would instead run on donations. we can invite guest casters from all over eu + us - bring the players on board and the viewers or any sponsors in general will be able to donate some money
I got some contacts to other casters, players, etc. i could set up a tournament page aswell
and i thought to run it on a saturday or sunday
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On March 15 2011 00:40 Gao Xi wrote: Yea the showmatch would seem more possible. Like have 2 foreigners play a showmatch and for every unique viewer on the stream, the sponsor(?) would donate a certain amount towards Japan. And the viewers can donate if they want to. It sounds like a great idea because:
1) It helps raise money for people in Japan 2) Could raise a lot of money and get a lot of viewers + publicity if its like 2 big name foreigners. 3) We will see 2 good players duke it out.
I guess the problem would be finding someone to sponsor the tournament. I don't really want to put in any numbers, cause I don't actually know what would be a reasonable amount, but I guess that could be worked out.
Great points. And you are correct with the sponsor thing. Maybe TLAF, Reddit or Justintv could put some sponsoring into this project? There's punch of old SC players etc in Liquidpoker community aswell. Not to forget all the gosucoaching crew, maybe teams such as EG, Dignitas, fnatic and so on. Doesn't require much to donate at least a little to start things off.
And i'm sure people here in TL would be willing to donate at least a little also, including myself.
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Perhaps you could run a 16 man tournament and people donate to determine who plays in tournament. ie people donated $1600 to see Idra play. Top 16 play in tourney. No prize pool, players are just asked before hand if they wish to participate. This way money can be donated as it comes in, seeing as speed is of the essence when it comes to crises.
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On March 15 2011 00:56 smokeyhoodoo wrote: Perhaps you could run a 16 man tournament and people donate to determine who plays in tournament. ie people donated $1600 to see Idra play. Top 16 play in tourney. No prize pool, players are just asked before hand if they wish to participate. This way money can be donated as it comes in, seeing as speed is of the essence when it comes to crises.
As much i would love to see Idra play, theres no way he would be participating without prize pool. Everyone should know that. Ofc i'd like to see him prove me (and others who doesn't believe it) wrong. But 16man tournament could work though.
Still could use a spotlight so this gets more visibility, ideas and thoughts. Its kinda hidden in the TL community section.
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judytuna has a GSL thread there and mentions having a donation pot for the GSLs viewing parties. We should encourage all the organizers to do this and mention this fundraising effort.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201138
What do you guys think? We can start doing something as soon as this Friday.
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Great idea! I think it might be nice to have a tournament open to everyone with a small entry fee - the more the merrier, and the more money it would raise.
And rather than hand some of the cash over to the winner, we could send it all to the worthy cause, and instead try and get someone to sponsor a prize for the winner (a TL shirt maybe? a voucher for Steam or some other site?).
I have no experience running tournaments myself, but I'm happy to try and help if you need more people involved.
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Got a whole bunch of updates and questions!
-I talked with the NPO. Everyone was surprised to hear that there's such thing as competitive gaming, but they were ecstatic to hear that people from places as far as Hong Kong and Germany are showing interest. We've set up a bank account in Vancouver for local fundraising. We could use that for the tournament, or TL could set up its own for the purpose -- whatever's most convenient and confident.
-If infrastructure will allow, the funding will most likely be used initially for things like buying important prescription drugs, blankets, gasoline, makeshift tools and other essentials (cold weather is a concern in northern Japan). If not, we expect that the money will most likely go towards things like treating people who've lost insurance coverage, as well as tuition for kids who've lost their parents etc.. I'll talk to the doc as soon as I can, but right now he's running on small generators with scarce gasoline, so communication is a finite resource.
-If we can make enough money from entrance fees, we might be able to afford some of the more financially-driven players like IdrA as someone mentioned -- though I suspect that if we can get enough marketing, a lot of pros will play just for the publicity and human satisfaction. The only difficulty is in knowing what our prize pool budget will be ahead of time; however, there's a good chance that we can get sponsors. (ryanAnger said he's willing to drop $1000!)
-I'm thinking that the format of the competition should be such that it's very inclusive but not very pressuring to scrubs like myself. As with any spectator sport, participation can be in both playing as well as spectating -- so hopefully we can get a bit of both going on.
-I like the tee-shirt idea; maybe we can make it so that anyone with at least n wins gets a tee-shirt or something, or if it's affordable enough, anyone that participates. We can probably find a manufacturer that's willing to cut us some slack in exchange for recognition.
-If we can get some Korean pros or semi-pros playing too it should make for some good sentiment, owing to the love-hate relationship the Japanese have with them.
-I was hoping ryanAnger would see this thread too, but I guess I'll have to PM him. He's the one that came up with the idea, and he's really enthusiastic about it.
-Would we have any sort of venue, or would it be entirely on ustream/justin.tv/YouTube?
-Can we get some advice or assistance from the TL people?
-Should this thread be under General or something? Can it even be moved?
-Should we keep in touch via Skype/MSN/Facebook, or should we just continue using these forums?
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I was just thinking the same thing. I even created an account specifically tailored to support such an event.
I have emailed the Blizzard tourney staff to gain some support from them. Maybe doing a match as to how much we can raise.
It's a great idea and at the same time give something doing what we love to do.
I was even thinking about doing a smaller scale tourney more tailored to the US guys. That may be more managable and logistically friendly.
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That is some great news!
I think the best way might be to talk to TL admins, TL can make stuff happen and i believe that Mani lives(?) in Japan so I guess it would be another reason TL should help out. Basically if TL endorses the tournament/showmatch or helps out then it would be huge cause i'm sure they have connections. Like Day9 and such. (Day9 gets like 10k viewers per daily live IIRC so that would spread the word, etc). Probably getting in touch with the admins and organizing something would be the best route.
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It would be awesome to have an iCCup Extravaganza-like fundraising!!! As long as there's some what of an event it would help a lot people in Japan
Raelcun going 48ish hours without sleep!!!!
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On March 14 2011 20:06 PlagueRat wrote: We should allow the quake to do significant enough dmg, so that we may invade, and enslave them.
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How the fuck don't people get perm'd for this? :\ That's fucked up.
Fundraiser is a great idea! Who would play? Would be really cool to see high profile players in it. Could probably raise a TON of money too. If like 5k people tuned in, and only 20% donated $1 that's $1k to help
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On March 15 2011 00:59 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 00:56 smokeyhoodoo wrote: Perhaps you could run a 16 man tournament and people donate to determine who plays in tournament. ie people donated $1600 to see Idra play. Top 16 play in tourney. No prize pool, players are just asked before hand if they wish to participate. This way money can be donated as it comes in, seeing as speed is of the essence when it comes to crises. As much i would love to see Idra play, theres no way he would be participating without prize pool. Everyone should know that. Ofc i'd like to see him prove me (and others who doesn't believe it) wrong. But 16man tournament could work though. Still could use a spotlight so this gets more visibility, ideas and thoughts. Its kinda hidden in the TL community section.
It was really more of an example. Furthermore, I wouldn't assume such things about people, and no one is obligated to do such a thing either so they shouldn't be judged. People are busy and have their own problems. Going beyond that is kindness, but not doing so isn't evil or cold-hearted.
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On March 15 2011 08:13 Seoulman wrote: I was just thinking the same thing. I even created an account specifically tailored to support such an event.
I have emailed the Blizzard tourney staff to gain some support from them. Maybe doing a match as to how much we can raise.
It's a great idea and at the same time give something doing what we love to do.
I was even thinking about doing a smaller scale tourney more tailored to the US guys. That may be more managable and logistically friendly.
I think an international tourney would be just as easy as a US tourney, so long as we limit ourselves to places that have PayPal/Amazon/Google Checkout, especially if it's primarily or entirely online.
I'd prefer to make sure it's International for sentimental reasons. It'll make the recipients happier.
Plus I live in Canada.
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I can play on US/EU server if you need a terran player. I could also help cast but I have no experience, but for this event I'll make an exception
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On March 15 2011 09:42 smokeyhoodoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 00:59 Grettin wrote:On March 15 2011 00:56 smokeyhoodoo wrote: Perhaps you could run a 16 man tournament and people donate to determine who plays in tournament. ie people donated $1600 to see Idra play. Top 16 play in tourney. No prize pool, players are just asked before hand if they wish to participate. This way money can be donated as it comes in, seeing as speed is of the essence when it comes to crises. As much i would love to see Idra play, theres no way he would be participating without prize pool. Everyone should know that. Ofc i'd like to see him prove me (and others who doesn't believe it) wrong. But 16man tournament could work though. Still could use a spotlight so this gets more visibility, ideas and thoughts. Its kinda hidden in the TL community section. It was really more of an example. Furthermore, I wouldn't assume such things about people, and no one is obligated to do such a thing either so they shouldn't be judged. People are busy and have their own problems. Going beyond that is kindness, but not doing so isn't evil or cold-hearted.
Obviously not, don't understand me wrong here.
But i'd still say that showmatch or progamer tournament rather than 'opentournament' is better idea overall. Easier to do, easier to handle. No need to worry about the accounts and so on.
Dump, seems like you've done some excellent job already with this. Mind asking some of the TL staff what they think? and yet again maybe spotlight this thread. :p
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On March 15 2011 15:29 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 09:42 smokeyhoodoo wrote:On March 15 2011 00:59 Grettin wrote:On March 15 2011 00:56 smokeyhoodoo wrote: Perhaps you could run a 16 man tournament and people donate to determine who plays in tournament. ie people donated $1600 to see Idra play. Top 16 play in tourney. No prize pool, players are just asked before hand if they wish to participate. This way money can be donated as it comes in, seeing as speed is of the essence when it comes to crises. As much i would love to see Idra play, theres no way he would be participating without prize pool. Everyone should know that. Ofc i'd like to see him prove me (and others who doesn't believe it) wrong. But 16man tournament could work though. Still could use a spotlight so this gets more visibility, ideas and thoughts. Its kinda hidden in the TL community section. It was really more of an example. Furthermore, I wouldn't assume such things about people, and no one is obligated to do such a thing either so they shouldn't be judged. People are busy and have their own problems. Going beyond that is kindness, but not doing so isn't evil or cold-hearted. Obviously not, don't understand me wrong here. But i'd still say that showmatch or progamer tournament rather than 'opentournament' is better idea overall. Easier to do, easier to handle. No need to worry about the accounts and so on. Dump, seems like you've done some excellent job already with this. Mind asking some of the TL staff what they think? and yet again maybe spotlight this thread. :p
I agree, I think an open tournament where people can donate to sign up, play, and then win a modest prize for decent performance (or even everyone that joins, if it turns out to be viable) and slightly-less-modest grand prizes would be good.
I just read your old comment about regions again and realized what Seoulman meant by a logistical problem outside the US -- anyone have any ideas on how we might resolve this? Maybe each region can be its own bracket, so that we only have to worry about a small number of people who'll need accounts on another server.
Anyone know who in TL I should talk to?
On March 15 2011 13:46 Masq wrote:I can play on US/EU server if you need a terran player. I could also help cast but I have no experience, but for this event I'll make an exception
:D! Nice to know we have a big name on board already.
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I really don't know who i would talk to in TL staff. So i'd try Manifesto, Nazgul etc. Or visit the TL IRC and talk there.
If i understood you right, separating regions to different tournaments sounds like a lot of work and i wouldn't go for that. Possible streaming would need more work and not to forget the whole organizing.
I didn't quite understand where you agreed with me on my last post (or if you even did). But i really think that opentournament for everyone isn't a good idea, even donation wise.
Instead, bunch of progamers battling it out in a tournament is much easier to organize and do overall. I'd say there would be alot more people watching the streams aswell. Most of the pros should have EU/NA accounts so there wouldn't be problems with the servers etc. This will most likely happen if everyone can play. The only problem is to get pro players to play if there isn't a decent prize pool. [read smokeyhoodoo's post]
Even more easier choice would be just a showmatch between two players.
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On March 15 2011 19:03 Grettin wrote: I really don't know who i would talk to in TL staff. So i'd try Manifesto, Nazgul etc. Or visit the TL IRC and talk there.
If i understood you right, separating regions to different tournaments sounds like a lot of work and i wouldn't go for that. Possible streaming would need more work and not to forget the whole organizing.
I didn't quite understand where you agreed with me on my last post (or if you even did). But i really think that opentournament for everyone isn't a good idea, even donation wise.
Instead, bunch of progamers battling it out in a tournament is much easier to organize and do overall. I'd say there would be alot more people watching the streams aswell. Most of the pros should have EU/NA accounts so there wouldn't be problems with the servers etc. This will most likely happen if everyone can play. The only problem is to get pro players to play if there isn't a decent prize pool. [read smokeyhoodoo's post]
Even more easier choice would be just a showmatch between two players.
E: more text.
Ah, sorry, I haven't had much sleep so I'm not paying very good attention.
More views might be nice, but I wonder which would be the more money-making business model?
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About the business model, i really cant say since i haven't hosted any tournaments in my life. Thats why we need this spotlighted so more people will be saying their thoughts.
All i see:
better/known players & casters = More viewers/more interesting. More viewers might possible be more money if there is a donation account during the games etc.
Sponsors/supporters to get things going(seems like you already have one, so thats a good start), to get the prizepool idea etc. so the pros can decide whether to play or not.
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On March 15 2011 20:15 Grettin wrote: About the business model, i really cant say since i haven't hosted any tournaments in my life. Thats why we need this spotlighted so more people will be saying their thoughts.
All i see:
better/known players & casters = More viewers/more interesting. More viewers might possible be more money if there is a donation account during the games etc.
Sponsors/supporters to get things going(seems like you already have one, so thats a good start), to get the prizepool idea etc. so the pros can decide whether to play or not.
As far as sponsors goes, I think we only have ryanAnger for $1k so far -- and I still need to poke him.
One option might be to test the waters with show matches with popular players and casters, and then if we feel confident that we have the right people and experience for a public pay-to-play tournament, we can try that out.
My only concern with just having spectators and pro gamers is that the awareness of the situation is already quite saturated; if they were going to donate, they probably already would have. On the other hand, playing a game to help people out might make for good slacktivism.
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I'm torn whether viewers should buy a ticket which will be donated 100% or if it should be mainly free and donation based. However, given this huge starcraft community I think with decent players and casters there is a way to set up something like this. Maybe you can get in touch with the ESL guys and figure something out. Their premium concept worked well for the IEM and they have the contacts.
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On March 15 2011 20:45 naim wrote: I'm torn whether viewers should buy a ticket which will be donated 100% or if it should be mainly free and donation based. However, given this huge starcraft community I think with decent players and casters there is a way to set up something like this. Maybe you can get in touch with the ESL guys and figure something out. Their premium concept worked well for the IEM and they have the contacts.
Pay-to-view? Really? Would that work?
I think people would feel a lot more satisfied with a casual pay-to-play -- though of course as others have mentioned it's the most challenging to set up.
Pay-per-view could be difficult too; think it would involve a lot of web work and private streaming servers with login/checkout.
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Pay-to-view wont work and i don't think its a good idea at all. If people wants to watch the games, then they watch. No need to donate or pay for it.
People needs to know about this and start donating for before the tournament and for the "prize pool". And then possible during the games trough PayPal etc.
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On March 15 2011 20:54 Grettin wrote: Pay-to-view wont work and i don't think its a good idea at all. If people wants to watch the games, then they watch. No need to donate or pay for it.
People needs to know about this and start donating for before the tournament and for the "prize pool". And then possible during the games trough PayPal etc. hm okok pay-to-view does't work, agreed. But what is the point of donating for a "prize pool"? Isn't the idea of charity, that everybody donates to one cause? Players/casters donate some of their time, viewers some of their money. Am I wrong?
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On March 15 2011 21:45 naim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 20:54 Grettin wrote: Pay-to-view wont work and i don't think its a good idea at all. If people wants to watch the games, then they watch. No need to donate or pay for it.
People needs to know about this and start donating for before the tournament and for the "prize pool". And then possible during the games trough PayPal etc. hm okok pay-to-view does't work, agreed. But what is the point of donating for a "prize pool"? Isn't the idea of charity, that everybody donates to one cause? Players/casters donate some of their time, viewers some of their money. Am I wrong?
That should be the plan yes, but if the organizer decides to go with the protournament /showmatch path, how many of the players from lets say, root, EG, dignitas and so on would play the tournament without prices? Of course it would be best if the pro's would just play without any prices. Imo smookeyhoodoo said it pretty well couple posts back:
"Furthermore, I wouldn't assume such things about people, and no one is obligated to do such a thing either so they shouldn't be judged. People are busy and have their own problems. Going beyond that is kindness, but not doing so isn't evil or cold-hearted."
for example 10% of the whole donation pot is given out to the TOP 3, imo thats acceptable as long as it stays reasonable. If there is already 1000 dollars on the pot, 10% is already a good start for the prizepool. If some sponsors would pick this idea up and sponsor something like headphones, mouses, t-shirts and so on, it would be even better. Better players makes the event more interesting in the watchers eyes. That way it gains more viewers and most likely more donations.
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On March 15 2011 21:45 naim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 20:54 Grettin wrote: Pay-to-view wont work and i don't think its a good idea at all. If people wants to watch the games, then they watch. No need to donate or pay for it.
People needs to know about this and start donating for before the tournament and for the "prize pool". And then possible during the games trough PayPal etc. hm okok pay-to-view does't work, agreed. But what is the point of donating for a "prize pool"? Isn't the idea of charity, that everybody donates to one cause? Players/casters donate some of their time, viewers some of their money. Am I wrong?
Yeah, that's the thing... as far as getting spectators to donate goes, it might be quicker to just get a TL admin to nag day9 to make a pre-show announcement and put a link or something -- and in fact that would probably be slightly more effective, since day9 is notorious for making people do things. Just having a show match might not earn that much, since most people that are interested presumably would have donated already...
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I would suggest that instead of a pay to play tournament use casters who will cast the events, and the money they earn from the event through advertisements can be used to be sent to the doctor. Remember there are a lot of casters. If you can get some big name casters for a consecutive cast, that would be ideal, Day9, Tasteless(We only see him in GSL!) and have casters switch out places, run ads between commercials and anytime there is a wait period
People will know 100% that all revenue will go to Earthquake/Tsunami/Japan, so there won't be as much whining, not only that by being a viewer all those individuals will be supporting the tournament, Esports and the victims.
(Only reason I don't suggest a pay to play is because most people/gamers can't even fend off a couple of bucks, sorry I don't make 65k like I did 2 years ago right now I barely make 700 dollars a month and my expenses are 1k a month.) Aka Student.
Also I do recommend a prize tournament probably not 1k or maybe a divided amount such as if it's 1k
1st place wins 250/donates 300 2nd place wins 125/donates 175 3rd place wins 50/donates 100
These are just random numbers that equal 1k. I just think donating more than you win would be better. + any profits made go to Japan too. Another side note is that 300/175/100 could be a tax write off.
Also by no means does that people can't "Donate" to the event either, meaning we can do a multi-prong attack on this event =B. Don't you still get 5 dollars from paypal for signing up?
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How many T-shirts would you need Dump actually?
I have a few people who might want to do something.
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On March 15 2011 22:04 GertHeart wrote: I would suggest that instead of a pay to play tournament use casters who will cast the events, and the money they earn from the event through advertisements can be used to be sent to the doctor. Remember there are a lot of casters. If you can get some big name casters for a consecutive cast, that would be ideal, Day9, Tasteless(We only see him in GSL!) and have casters switch out places, run ads between commercials and anytime there is a wait period
That'd give me nerd chills, but I think it might dilute the viewership.
People will know 100% that all revenue will go to Earthquake/Tsunami/Japan, so there won't be as much whining, not only that by being a viewer all those individuals will be supporting the tournament, Esports and the victims.
Web ads could be hard to deal with. If ustream/YouTube/etc work anything like the way Google AdSense does, the casters will have a hard time knowing exactly how much money was made on any one ad.
(Only reason I don't suggest a pay to play is because most people/gamers can't even fend off a couple of bucks, sorry I don't make 65k like I did 2 years ago right now I barely make 700 dollars a month and my expenses are 1k a month.) Aka Student.
I hear you. Hmmm...
Well if people are going to donate, they're going to have to spend some amount or another, so...
With pay-to-play, even if they end up not donating or playing, people could still watch the finals, which presumably would have some high-profile players and casters. But yeah, the logistical challenge is the big problem with that idea.
Also I do recommend a prize tournament probably not 1k or maybe a divided amount such as if it's 1k
1st place wins 250/donates 300 2nd place wins 125/donates 175 3rd place wins 50/donates 100
These are just random numbers that equal 1k. I just think donating more than you win would be better. + any profits made go to Japan too. Another side note is that 300/175/100 could be a tax write off.
Sounds good to me, but is that enough to satisfy the pros?
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On March 15 2011 22:23 Zergneedsfood wrote: How many T-shirts would you need Dump actually?
I have a few people who might want to do something.
Awesome. Thanks for that.
We'll probably have to settle on a business model before we can ask though. If we decide to just do pro games, we won't need any; if we decide to provide prizes to the winners of n games or something we might need a fair number.
If we do pay-to-play, it might be interesting to do something like, for instance, $10 and n wins for a tee-shirt or $15 to play + a tee-shirt unconditionally.
Feel free to shoot my ideas down by the way; I'm just brainstorming.
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Make a raffle for a part of these t-shirts under the donators. Sell the rest and donate the money.
Or send the t-shirts directly to Japan. :/ Sorry, that sounds drastic but i could imagine they would need fresh water and blankets more than money.
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On March 15 2011 23:12 naim wrote: Make a raffle for a part of these t-shirts under the donators. Sell the rest and donate the money.
Or send the t-shirts directly to Japan. :/ Sorry, that sounds drastic but i could imagine they would need fresh water and blankets more than money.
And you can't buy those things with money? Has the world changed completely because of this incident?
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On March 15 2011 23:12 naim wrote: Make a raffle for a part of these t-shirts under the donators. Sell the rest and donate the money.
Or send the t-shirts directly to Japan. :/ Sorry, that sounds drastic but i could imagine they would need fresh water and blankets more than money.
Actually you're absolutely right. Hmm...
Well, the reasoning for donating money as opposed to anything else is that once the infrastructure is in place, the Red Cross can probably deal with blankets and water and such, but medication and treatment for people who've lost their insurance coverage is undoubtedly going to be a much more complicated issue that can only be resolved with money.
But yeah, given that we have the capacity to donate clothing, there's probably no reason that we shouldn't.
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Dump, I only made the suggestion for one reason, because I do know how hard it is to calculate but I know it's possible, there is another possible step, create a seperate utsream/justin.tv account have it become a partner, and just have all the funds go to that one, and allow all the casters access to it.
I'm just trying to give outside of the box idea's.
On a side note Idra's going to phoenix to be in a small lan with a small prize pool. DieStar/EmpireKas/Dimaga/Stalife etc.. I could go on forever play for 100 dollar prize pools almost daily. So getting big names to join won't be impossible, and probably the larger the tournament the better, unless you can get good player names and start with Bo3 first set. Usually just setting one up and hoping people show up now kinda works.
Or send the t-shirts directly to Japan. :/ Sorry, that sounds drastic but i could imagine they would need fresh water and blankets more than money.
Money buys it, and is easily transferable. Most nations prefer money in bad situations.
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On March 15 2011 23:23 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 23:12 naim wrote: Make a raffle for a part of these t-shirts under the donators. Sell the rest and donate the money.
Or send the t-shirts directly to Japan. :/ Sorry, that sounds drastic but i could imagine they would need fresh water and blankets more than money. And you can't buy those things with money? Has the world changed completely because of this incident?
A little bit... but I think the bottlenecking resource is in fact gasoline right now.
Again I should consult with the doc whenever he's in an area with working Internet. He'd know both by observation and by past experience how we might best deliver resources.
Right now he's working on low-power generators with scarce fuel, and he's going from dawn to dusk without even making time to eat, from what I hear.
Is there anything else you guys might want to ask him? I'm going to shoot him an email soon.
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On March 15 2011 23:27 GertHeart wrote: Dump, I only made the suggestion for one reason, because I do know how hard it is to calculate but I know it's possible, there is another possible step, create a seperate utsream/justin.tv account have it become a partner, and just have all the funds go to that one, and allow all the casters access to it.
I'm just trying to give outside of the box idea's.
That could work. It might be harder to promote, though. For instance if Husky were to cast, he'd have to have a link from his YouTube page -- his subscribers wouldn't see it directly. If day9 were to cast, he'd need to announce it in one of his dailies.
But yeah, either way, let's get our own stream going on ustream or what not.
On a side note Idra's going to phoenix to be in a small lan with a small prize pool. DieStar/EmpireKas/Dimaga/Stalife etc.. I could go on forever play for 100 dollar prize pools almost daily. So getting big names to join won't be impossible, and probably the larger the tournament the better, unless you can get good player names and start with Bo3 first set. Usually just setting one up and hoping people show up now kinda works. Cool, that's good to know.
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I've read the thread so far and this could turn it wonderfully. It's a great way to make e-sports (and more people in generall) contribute to Japan after this disaster.
I was thinking about this as well, but never really gave it much thought untill I read this thread and really got inspired. What do you think about trying to make local fundraising tournaments as well as this one (that hopefully will get quite large, I terms of fundraising). Or do you think that a smaller online tournament (for the EU server, since that's where I'm located) will just split the money, and not really increese it?
(First post, be gentle)
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On March 15 2011 23:47 Viper Jr. wrote: I've read the thread so far and this could turn it wonderfully. It's a great way to make e-sports (and more people in generall) contribute to Japan after this disaster.
I was thinking about this as well, but never really gave it much thought untill I read this thread and really got inspired. What do you think about trying to make local fundraising tournaments as well as this one (that hopefully will get quite large, I terms of fundraising). Or do you think that a smaller online tournament (for the EU server, since that's where I'm located) will just split the money, and not really increese it?
(First post, be gentle)
I'm honestly not too sure, but I think it boils down to two variables:
1. operational overhead -- most if not all charitable organizations have expenses, so only a certain percentage makes it to the people on the ground. Some organizations are known for taking up nearly all the funding. In our case the most significant cost will probably be the prize pool. What the overhead of multiple tournaments is as opposed to one large tournament is sort of up in the air, I think.
Having one tournament with a lot of volunteers might reduce redundant use of man hours, though people might potentially be more familiar with the SC community in their own regions.
2. marketing -- if it turns out that there's a significant snowball effect, one large tournament might be more successful than a lot of smaller ones, as we'll be able to get bigger names on board. On the other hand, having a ton of small tournaments all over the world might have better reach.
Hard to say. Would love to have as much help as we can get, though.
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Just wanted to quickly post in-between my schedule to say that this is an awesome idea and if there is absolutely anything I could do to help then i'd love to be a part of this!
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On March 14 2011 20:06 PlagueRat wrote: We should allow the quake to do significant enough dmg, so that we may invade, and enslave them.
User was temp banned for this post.
jesus tl users are such aspies sometimes
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On March 16 2011 00:05 dump wrote:
I'm honestly not too sure, but I think it boils down to two variables:
1. operational overhead -- most if not all charitable organizations have expenses, so only a certain percentage makes it to the people on the ground. Some organizations are known for taking up nearly all the funding. In our case the most significant cost will probably be the prize pool. What the overhead of multiple tournaments is as opposed to one large tournament is sort of up in the air, I think.
Having one tournament with a lot of volunteers might reduce redundant use of man hours, though people might potentially be more familiar with the SC community in their own regions.
2. marketing -- if it turns out that there's a significant snowball effect, one large tournament might be more successful than a lot of smaller ones, as we'll be able to get bigger names on board. On the other hand, having a ton of small tournaments all over the world might have better reach.
Hard to say. Would love to have as much help as we can get, though.
Just basicly thinking out loud here:
I'm thinking about a much smaller tournament here. It would be great if the DumpTournament (I'll call it that, just to make things clear) gets some of the more established players and gets resonally big. But like you said that, will cost money (some at least). So, what if the DumpTournament aims to be "as big as possible" with some of the tips and ideas that are giving in this thread, and other small tournaments settle for a lot less. For example:
Let's say I decide to make a smaller tournament for the same cause. Then maybe just advertise it on billboards in different schools, some swedish/city local internet communities etc. The pricepool is 10% of the entrence money (should not be needed, but if it attractes more people, it's worth it), the rest goes directly to Japan (via some pre-decided foundation/your contact/etc). The tournament is online, and replay based. So when it's started, everyone has 3 days (for example) to play the match and send the replay to me. When the three days are over, a new round begin etc. This way, there is really nothing to lose. There will be no expenses (so that will not be a problem), and since it a smaller tournament, it will not "take" players from the big, glourious Fundraising DumpTournament. And if there are just 5 people attending, then it's at least more than nothing, and perhaps enough to make at least one familys' life at least a little better.
Any thought on that? And like I said, I'm just thinking out loud here. Maybe it's a bad idea, maybe it's not.
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On March 16 2011 00:24 Viper Jr. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 00:05 dump wrote:
I'm honestly not too sure, but I think it boils down to two variables:
1. operational overhead -- most if not all charitable organizations have expenses, so only a certain percentage makes it to the people on the ground. Some organizations are known for taking up nearly all the funding. In our case the most significant cost will probably be the prize pool. What the overhead of multiple tournaments is as opposed to one large tournament is sort of up in the air, I think.
Having one tournament with a lot of volunteers might reduce redundant use of man hours, though people might potentially be more familiar with the SC community in their own regions.
2. marketing -- if it turns out that there's a significant snowball effect, one large tournament might be more successful than a lot of smaller ones, as we'll be able to get bigger names on board. On the other hand, having a ton of small tournaments all over the world might have better reach.
Hard to say. Would love to have as much help as we can get, though. Just basicly thinking out loud here: I'm thinking about a much smaller tournament here. It would be great if the DumpTournament (I'll call it that, just to make things clear) gets some of the more established players and gets resonally big. But like you said that, will cost money (some at least). So, what if the DumpTournament aims to be "as big as possible" with some of the tips and ideas that are giving in this thread, and other small tournaments settle for a lot less. For example: Let's say I decide to make a smaller tournament for the same cause. Then maybe just advertise it on billboards in different schools, some swedish/city local internet communities etc. The pricepool is 10% of the entrence money (should not be needed, but if it attractes more people, it's worth it), the rest goes directly to Japan (via some pre-decided foundation/your contact/etc). The tournament is online, and replay based. So when it's started, everyone has 3 days (for example) to play the match and send the replay to me. When the three days are over, a new round begin etc. This way, there is really nothing to lose. There will be no expenses (so that will not be a problem), and since it a smaller tournament, it will not "take" players from the big, glourious Fundraising DumpTournament. And if there are just 5 people attending, then it's at least more than nothing, and perhaps enough to make at least one familys' life at least a little better. Any thought on that? And like I said, I'm just thinking out loud here. Maybe it's a bad idea, maybe it's not.
We're still not settled on the size of the tournament, really. It might just be a few pro gamers, or it might be an open thing... there seems to be pros and cons to both.
I think your idea should work too. Maybe if we're lucky, it'll start a trend for fundraiser tournaments run by individuals. That'd be awesome. Plus local tournaments are probably a lot of fun.
Japan's earthquake is horrifying, but there are others that need help too. It's just that Japan's getting a lot of attention because it's so prominent in the global conscious. I'm guilty of that too.
Gotta try to get some sleep, will be back later.
On March 16 2011 00:13 KaelSC wrote: Just wanted to quickly post in-between my schedule to say that this is an awesome idea and if there is absolutely anything I could do to help then i'd love to be a part of this!
Aye, keep an eye on this thread.
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On March 16 2011 00:48 dump wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 00:24 Viper Jr. wrote:On March 16 2011 00:05 dump wrote:
I'm honestly not too sure, but I think it boils down to two variables:
1. operational overhead -- most if not all charitable organizations have expenses, so only a certain percentage makes it to the people on the ground. Some organizations are known for taking up nearly all the funding. In our case the most significant cost will probably be the prize pool. What the overhead of multiple tournaments is as opposed to one large tournament is sort of up in the air, I think.
Having one tournament with a lot of volunteers might reduce redundant use of man hours, though people might potentially be more familiar with the SC community in their own regions.
2. marketing -- if it turns out that there's a significant snowball effect, one large tournament might be more successful than a lot of smaller ones, as we'll be able to get bigger names on board. On the other hand, having a ton of small tournaments all over the world might have better reach.
Hard to say. Would love to have as much help as we can get, though. Just basicly thinking out loud here: I'm thinking about a much smaller tournament here. It would be great if the DumpTournament (I'll call it that, just to make things clear) gets some of the more established players and gets resonally big. But like you said that, will cost money (some at least). So, what if the DumpTournament aims to be "as big as possible" with some of the tips and ideas that are giving in this thread, and other small tournaments settle for a lot less. For example: Let's say I decide to make a smaller tournament for the same cause. Then maybe just advertise it on billboards in different schools, some swedish/city local internet communities etc. The pricepool is 10% of the entrence money (should not be needed, but if it attractes more people, it's worth it), the rest goes directly to Japan (via some pre-decided foundation/your contact/etc). The tournament is online, and replay based. So when it's started, everyone has 3 days (for example) to play the match and send the replay to me. When the three days are over, a new round begin etc. This way, there is really nothing to lose. There will be no expenses (so that will not be a problem), and since it a smaller tournament, it will not "take" players from the big, glourious Fundraising DumpTournament. And if there are just 5 people attending, then it's at least more than nothing, and perhaps enough to make at least one familys' life at least a little better. Any thought on that? And like I said, I'm just thinking out loud here. Maybe it's a bad idea, maybe it's not. We're still not settled on the size of the tournament, really. It might just be a few pro gamers, or it might be an open thing... there seems to be pros and cons to both. I think your idea should work too. Maybe if we're lucky, it'll start a trend for fundraiser tournaments run by individuals. That'd be awesome. Japan's earthquake is horrifying, but there are others that need help too. It's just that Japan's getting a lot of attention because it's so prominent in the global conscious. I'm guilty of that too.
I do beleive that we could cooperate our ideas. Perhaps your tournament will be one with (more or less) progamers, while I (and hopefully others in other countries) try to create open tournaments (since there is nothing to lose in trying to hosting such a simple tournamet). And yes, it would be fantastic if this starts a trend with fundraisning tournaments. And not just when a big disaster appares, like you said, but everyday, a tournament like this is needed.
I´ll try to continue the brainstorming if I actually could be able to create a smaller, open tournament in Sweden. But if there is anything you need help with, just say it!
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Chill - take a deep breath - calm down. You guys are making this into a much more intricate and difficult than it really is. I will break it down:
The Format and how (i think) it should be done: 1. You run a 64-player pro tournament of which 15 spots are reserved for the largest single contributors. I.e. people who are willing to lay down 1k like that guy will get to play a pro, maybe even on a livestream with thousands of people watching. People already pay up to hundreds to dollars for somthing similar already.
2. You organize the prize pool so its worth playing for. It doesnt need to be more than 1st $300, 2nd $200, 3rd $100. A hell of a lot of good players already play on the Go4sc2 cups, and the prizes are even smaller there. Those prizes will suffice.
3. You set up a paypal account to which watchers of the stream can donate. This can work pretty well. Diggity raised (i think) about 2k for children back in the Brood war days. The community is 10 or 20 times the size it was then. The donations will come. Most people can afford to chip in at least 10 USD.
4. You get the top casters for the tour. This is essential! Preferably one from both "camps"; 1. Day9, Gosucoaching, Tastosis and 2. someone whos huge on youtube. Like Husky.
5. You pick one leader to organize the whole event. A person whos willing to put in the effort and has integrity, so preferably a well know and long standing TL member (Wouldn't want anyone to run off with the money).
6. You set a date and time that will enable most people to participate and watch from BOTH EU and NA. (For instance would be running it right before TSL matches be silly)
7. Once you have cleared the players (pros) and shown this is a really good set up, you go for corporate sponsorship. Look at all the money put in in these types of tours already. For instance, i couldnt imagine Blizz not contributing when the people of their gaming community makes such an effort for relief.
IF you do these things you could have at least 10 - 20k, maybe even 30k within 3 or 4 weeks time. 1 week to set the date and let pro's sign up. 1-2 weeks of hypeing and a "donation race" for a spot in the tour (the better the pros - the bigger the donations). And then you run the tour.
Remember this is CHARITY. Charity is when people give time, effort or money for no gain. If you have the possibility of a prize, fame or just to watch good games, thats plenty. Charity when people go the extra mile for someone else. Every pro say they really wanna see e-sports grow, if a single community can raise tens of thousands of dollars for people they dont know - it will be noticed.
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Aphasie: You make a very good point. And to relate to my other posts, I do believe that smaller tournaments can be arrange quite easilly, in addition to a really big tournament, like the one you are describing. Of course, the money will be ALOT less than in the epic scenario you are describing, but perhaps it's enough to "get the ball rolling" in terms of local tournament fundraising.
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Sounds like you know what's up.
On March 16 2011 01:16 Aphasie wrote: 3. You set up a paypal account to which watchers of the stream can donate. This can work pretty well. Diggity raised (i think) about 2k for children back in the Brood war days. The community is 10 or 20 times the size it was then. The donations will come. Most people can afford to chip in at least 10 USD.
The NPO just made a trust fund account here in Vancouver. If we agree to donate to the clinic, I can set up a PayPal account -- which I'll be doing anyway for fundraising campaigns that the other volunteers are running.
5. You pick one leader to organize the whole event. A person whos willing to put in the effort and has integrity, so preferably a well know and long standing TL member (Wouldn't want anyone to run off with the money).
I've definitely got time for the next few months, though obviously I'm not very well-known here. I'm up for playing an active role either way.
6. You set a date and time that will enable most people to participate and watch from BOTH EU and NA. (For instance would be running it right before TSL matches be silly)
This would all happen via ustream/Skype/etc, right?
7. Once you have cleared the players (pros) and shown this is a really good set up, you go for corporate sponsorship. Look at all the money put in in these types of tours already. For instance, i couldnt imagine Blizz not contributing when the people of their gaming community makes such an effort for relief.
That would seem to be the hard part. I work for a Japanese community magazine in Vancouver so I know how corporate sponsorships work, but my connections are mostly local businesses...
I guess the TL people would probably have some contacts.
64 pros sounds like a lot, but it seems easier than an open tournament.
Thanks for the advice!
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i think the idea of concentration (limited) manpower in 1 bigger tournament will profit most. - Presumably more prize money -> better players/casters - Less effort to organize - Hopefully more interest -> more donations - Less time taken / less collisions with other events
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I dont think tourneys on a national level takes anything away from an international one. Its just more chances to raise money. I do however think that the big money is in an international one, especially because of the "donation race" and corporate sponsorship. That where the most publicity and prestige will reach the most people and most money will be raised. But if people organize on a national level and pool earnings with the big tour it would be super awesome. It would make the publicity impact of sc2 larger (thus also helping our community) and i also think the money corporations put forward is proportionate to money raised by private donators.
Also you could enter the winner of the national tour into the international tour.
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By the way if anyone wants to get in contact with me, I'm on MSN under the hotmail.com address ragingrei. Should be a bit more convenient than PMs. I think you can find me on Skype under the same address too. (Don't mind my username.)
Also, I'm in the process of translating more information about the doc. Will upload some videos documenting his work on YouTube too.
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i think a series of showmatches would be cool to do. we could get some good players on board and have guest casters like day9 or chill and have some big matches. and have the proceeds from the commercials (if on justintv) go directly to the red cross or another charity.
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That's awesome. I think it'll be useful for a 64 player tournament too.
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This is a great idea to get the TL/SC2 community involved. Since Friday I haven't been able to get my mind off what's going on in Japan after been living there for almost a year and having a lot of friends in Japan. It's so frustrating to not be able to do something about the situation over there.
However as much as I'd like to help you out with this I don't believe I have enough knowledge or contacts to make this happen. Unfortunately you seem to be in the same boat. I'd love to help out with as much as I'm capable of but I really believe you should try reach out to the bigger casting crews at TL like iCCup, GLHF and RageQuit for example. If you can just get any of them involved in this I'm sure they will be able to take care of a lot.
By the way, you don't have to run a tournament. I remember last year when iCCup did some marathon king of the hill kind of event where they were raising money to cancer or some other disease which was a huge success. Basically you just need something that people will be willing to watch and then you will be able to get those donations with good casters working hard to get it.
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awesome thread and great ideas so far! =)
if there is a esports community that can pull sth like this off, its this one. therefore we need to trust in it and dont be all that pessimistic about the organisation:
as Aphasie already said, there are many pros playing for almost nothing (like go4sc2 cups) ->a 32-player cup should be possible. 16 would still be great ->reserving first round slots for major donators is a nice gimmick
to pull that off its important to get experienced casters and cup-orgas like esl,tl,...in eu and na who ->contact player and sponsors ->know how to make this an "event"
atm the awarness is pretty high, so the tourney needs to be soon. to help that one, well-known repressentative would be essential.
some additional ideas: -sponsors add a fixed amount to every donation by viewers (like 50cent for every $/€ donated) -get some story between games -having the cup instead of another well known cup, set up by the sponsor of the usual cup -get as many caster in as many countries as posible -if we dont get support from big organisations like esl, its not the end. there are many (not that well known) casters who are doing a great job (special endrey, khaldor, husky,homerj...) still couldnt imagine day9 not wanting to cast a match^^
to contribute somehow, im going to make some esl caster aware of this thread right now =)
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So there's a few things that need to be done right now:
-Trying to get in touch with some of the TL people; it's not working too well so far for whatever reason. It could be that they're skeptical/cautious, but I don't want to speculate much further.
-I need to translate more information about the NPO, the doc and the clinic. Some people are still feeling like they don't know enough, which is perfectly understandable. I think I have enough convincing information (including videos) to make people feel safe about donating. If that utterly fails, we could always go back to the Red Cross -- but it probably wouldn't be as satisfying, and the Red Cross likely won't deal much with recovery efforts on an individual level once the victims' survival is more or less ensured. Those who've lost insurance coverage are bound to go under the radar once the dust settles.
Once we get more experienced people on board, we can start solidifying some of the ideas we've had so far.
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On March 16 2011 15:10 dump wrote: So there's a few things that need to be done right now:
-Trying to get in touch with some of the TL people; it's not working too well so far for whatever reason. It could be that they're skeptical/cautious, but I don't want to speculate much further.
-I need to translate more information about the NPO, the doc and the clinic. Some people are still feeling like they don't know enough, which is perfectly understandable. I think I have enough convincing information (including videos) to make people feel safe about donating. If that utterly fails, we could always go back to the Red Cross -- but it probably wouldn't be as satisfying, and the Red Cross likely won't deal much with recovery efforts on an individual level once the victims' survival is more or less ensured. Those who've lost insurance coverage are bound to go under the radar once the dust settles.
Once we get more experienced people on board, we can start solidifying some of the ideas we've had so far.
Thats why TL should get involved. To hold the money even, so people feels more 'secured'(not saying i don't trust you, i do. :-)). I don't think Red Cross is the best idea if you know a doctor/hospital in Japan who could use the money as you said. Your points are good in this case. But of course anything is better than nothing, dont understand me wrong! Have you tried TL irc already? There's usually punch of staff hanging around.
People needs to remember that Day9, Husky etc are doing TSL so they are most likely busy the next couple of weeks.
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On March 16 2011 15:40 Grettin wrote:Have you tried TL irc already? There's usually punch of staff hanging around.
Been lurking there all day, but man it's so noisy in there with 1000+ people.
People needs to remember that Day9, Husky etc are doing TSL so they are most likely busy the next couple of weeks.
Aw damn that's right, too bad
On March 16 2011 15:40 Grettin wrote: Thats why TL should get involved. To hold the money even, so people feels more 'secured'
Yeah, if there's anything in specific I'd want the TL people to do it'd be to escrow and to maybe get us in touch with some more people who'd be willing to play/cast/organize...
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Okay, we started up a website yesterday:
http://www.stage-earth.ca/
We're still in the process of adding content (especially photos and earthquake information), but if there's any information that you think should be there, please let me know.
Still no word from anyone else in the community...
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I know he's not as well known as the others, but maybe you could ask AskJoshy to cast it?
http://www.youtube.com/user/AskJoshy
edit - by the way, that website tears me up. I'm not much help but in the way of some money I can spare. I would love to see a tournament. I'm going to donate when I get home, and I will donate again should this fundraiser happen.
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On March 19 2011 05:37 littlewisp wrote:I know he's not as well known as the others, but maybe you could ask AskJoshy to cast it? http://www.youtube.com/user/AskJoshyedit - by the way, that website tears me up. I'm not much help but in the way of some money I can spare. I would love to see a tournament. I'm going to donate when I get home, and I will donate again should this fundraiser happen.
Thanks, that might work too. It's going to be impossible to start anything until we have a fair number of prominent people on board...
I just realized I need to add a blurb about where that donate button takes the money.
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Oh also when you click 'hi from the disaster scene' it will not link to anything.
And are you going to post any info about the SC2 tourney idea? I was confused at first, I thought it was a totally unrelated site you mistakenly posted. Very lovely though.
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On March 19 2011 07:00 littlewisp wrote: Oh also when you click 'hi from the disaster scene' it will not link to anything.
And are you going to post any info about the SC2 tourney idea? I was confused at first, I thought it was a totally unrelated site you mistakenly posted. Very lovely though.
Oh that's weird. I'm just using the standard WordPress template right now. I'll see if I can figure out how to change it to link to the post. Not much of a design guru.
And yeah, we're going to start posting information about the various fundraising projects we've got going -- though right now those blog posts by the doc are extremely powerful, and unfortunately we don't have much of a tournament to talk of just yet...
At the moment what we need is a way to get more prominent people involved.
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I linked this thread to MMO champ and once I get my next break I'll also link it to the escapist. Don't really know what else to do to help. :/
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On March 19 2011 07:10 littlewisp wrote: I linked this thread to MMO champ and once I get my next break I'll also link it to the escapist. Don't really know what else to do to help. :/
Thanks a lot for all that.
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I would also add a link across the top to a short blurb about the Tohoku International Clinic itself -- its staff, its other doctors, stuff its been involved with helping (not just what the Dr has done) etc.
edit - and link to the Blizz SC2 forums, if you haven't already.
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On March 19 2011 07:48 littlewisp wrote: I would also add a link across the top to a short blurb about the Tohoku International Clinic itself -- its staff, its other doctors, stuff its been involved with helping (not just what the Dr has done) etc.
edit - and link to the Blizz SC2 forums, if you haven't already. Right, I knew I was forgetting something.
I'll hold off on the Blizz forums for now. It's practically impossible to hold a normal conversation there.
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And (I keep forgetting stuff too ) Add a link to the first post in this thread with any updated information, including the link to that site (I didn't see it there).
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On March 19 2011 08:14 littlewisp wrote:And (I keep forgetting stuff too ) Add a link to the first post in this thread with any updated information, including the link to that site (I didn't see it there). Done. Thanks for all the help so far, really appreciate it.
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I'll try talk to Josh about it to make him aware of this.
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On March 22 2011 04:24 Sorkoas wrote: I'll try talk to Josh about it to make him aware of this. Thanks.
The rest of the organization is raking in a fair amount right now fundraising at high schools and such and through the PayPal donate button on the website. Would be nice if we could get this going as well.
I'm tempted to visit the doc during the summer or something, though I'd probably just be another mouth to feed...
Edit: They're apparently looking for volunteer interpreters right now, interestingly.
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Hi guys I made a big post on Reddit starcraft. I've got some stuff in the works.
Not quite a tournament but it's a good idea i think, and I'd love to have some motivated individuals to help.
+ Show Spoiler + Hi everybody, this is going to be a crosspost between TeamLiquid and Reddit. My name is Ross Hollopeter and I am currently trying to organize a Starcraft 2 event that will generate donations for relief efforts for the tsunami in Japan.
The idea is based off of a similar fundraiser that speeddemosarchive.com (SDA) hosted recently to gather donations for the Prevent Cancer Foundation. The way that their event worked was that the hosts streamed a 4 day straight marathon of video games being completed quickly. During this stream they would hold raffles and bidding contests wherein each dollar donated would count as a raffle ticket or bid. For example they would hold a bidding contest to auction off the rights to name the Pokemon as they were caught while streaming that game. Using this system, they generated $52,000 in donations from the community in 4 days.
Who We Are: A group of friends who are saddened by the recent disaster in Japan. We want to do something to help that goes beyond donating the small amounts that we can, and we believe that raising awareness through a fun event is a great idea to get the community to donate.
The Goal: Generate donations for tsunami relief by holding a 24 hour marathon of Starcraft 2 featuring leading professional players and casters.
The Process: Keep the audience interacting with the stream and donating. Reward the audience for donating by letting them affect the outcome of the game.
What We Hope to Get From You the community: It's very hard to get in contact with the players and casters. If you are a player or caster who is interested in participating, let me know! Of course once we get some casters and players and a time confirmed, we need you all to spread the word! Let everybody know! Of course anybody that can donate their talents and expertise is welcome!
Below is a description of some of the events that I plan to include in this marathon.
1. Allow viewers to donate to vote on which players should play next. 2. Free for alls, team games, and custom games featuring high caliber players and famous members of the Starcraft community. 3. Donation raffles of gaming gear. (We are already in contact with a large company about donating prizes.) 4. A custom game type that will allow viewers to donate money to give advantages to their favorite players. I.E. if somebody donates a dollar for Chill, Chill gets an extra 100 minerals. If somebody donates 5 dollars against Combat-Ex, we kill his collosus. 5. There are many other possibilities. Donate to play against pros etc. please let me know of your ideas!
The event will take place on a weekend during a time when there are no major tournaments. Obviously the cause is very urgent, and if it's possible to organize something of this scale by this weekend that's when we'd prefer to have it.
I hope that you will consider my proposition, and I thank you for your time.
If you are interested or have the contact information of someone who would be interested, please contact me via PM on teamliquid or in this thread. My username is SultanVinegar Ross Hollopeter
please upvote for awareness and help us make this big
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Need a Reddit account...
Also, I'm thinking of bugging the TL people again after TSL.
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Doc was on TV (NHK) just now in a documentary program. Unfortunately my TV isn't hooked up to any capture/recording devices right now, and NHK isn't on ustream anymore.
Anyway, is there anyone in TL interested in helping out with this?
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