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On December 16 2010 04:02 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 20:43 sJarl wrote:Always push yourself  We strife kill the logbook every time. About your diet, this part of an article I just read is just awesome: + Show Spoiler +As for eating, I have heard so many ‘BS’ excuses about how guys in college can’t eat right, or they are “poor college students” and can’t buy good bodybuilding food, or they take too many classes and just don’t have time to cook.
I could go on. I would say that eating complaints are my biggest pet peeve, and I will proceed to debunk all of these “myths.”
First, the “poor college student” excuse is just that, an excuse. Get a part-time job or, if you must, ask mom and dad for $50/week for food. If both don’t work out, you’re out of luck and might want to enter a profession such as male stripping or gay for pay… But really, one of those should work out.
Here’s what you purchase, hopefully at a Costco or similar store: industrial bag of rice, eggs, giant jug of olive oil (or similar oil), and find the best deal on beef or chicken and stock up. I guarantee you will be able to afford those food selections.
I found these foods while reading Justin Harris’ Q&A one time when a similar question was asked, went to the store, and viola! It worked.
Next, there is no college student on the planet that is too busy to cook food, period. If you can find time to watch TV during the day, you can cook. This is just an excuse to be lazy and not wake up early to make your food. If you are honestly trying to claim this, you should probably reevaluate your bodybuilding goals because it will only get harder when you have a job in the “real” world and, potentially, a family with kids.
My take on attaining the proper food is that it is much simpler than most make it out to be. You all have to remember that if you are in this situation, and money is tight, you are not going to have the luxury of making great tasting food. You simply need to make carbs, protein, and fat, put ‘em together, and eat + repeat. It’s that simple. haha, i agree with most of this, but that guy is either really smart or went to a slacker school. saying you have more time during college than during fulltime work is absolutely silly. can't comment on family/kids part since i don't have kids, but a fulltime job (standard hours. with commute, mine's usually 7.30-7.30) is infinitely more relaxing than uni where allnighters due to necessity (rather than poor time management) are a standard affair i'm actually a bit worried as to whether i can maintain my schedule when i get back to college in january. i hope i'll manage.
Did you not know people of different majors at your school? There is a huge disparity among disciplines... or maybe it's just my bias from where I went to school.
There are majors/schools that are incredibly difficult to get into (business) but in general are easy and don't require much time in the 4 year undergraduate. Or psychology and criminal justice are usually very easy as well- alot of people consider them copouts for people who don't want to put in any serious effort in undergrad  - but can lead to careers where you are working ridiculous hours (i.e. med school, law school) And then there are obviously those situations that you are talking about, where people work their asses off in school and then get a 9-5 that requires absolutely nothing outside those hours. I personally don't know many people in that situation though :/
So it highly depends on where you went to school and how their programs are, and then what kind of field you are looking to get into.
That being said, good luck when you go back to school, and keep up the workouts!
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On December 17 2010 00:36 vicariouscheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 04:02 JeeJee wrote:On December 15 2010 20:43 sJarl wrote:Always push yourself We strife kill the logbook every time. About your diet, this part of an article I just read is just awesome: + Show Spoiler +As for eating, I have heard so many ‘BS’ excuses about how guys in college can’t eat right, or they are “poor college students” and can’t buy good bodybuilding food, or they take too many classes and just don’t have time to cook.
I could go on. I would say that eating complaints are my biggest pet peeve, and I will proceed to debunk all of these “myths.”
First, the “poor college student” excuse is just that, an excuse. Get a part-time job or, if you must, ask mom and dad for $50/week for food. If both don’t work out, you’re out of luck and might want to enter a profession such as male stripping or gay for pay… But really, one of those should work out.
Here’s what you purchase, hopefully at a Costco or similar store: industrial bag of rice, eggs, giant jug of olive oil (or similar oil), and find the best deal on beef or chicken and stock up. I guarantee you will be able to afford those food selections.
I found these foods while reading Justin Harris’ Q&A one time when a similar question was asked, went to the store, and viola! It worked.
Next, there is no college student on the planet that is too busy to cook food, period. If you can find time to watch TV during the day, you can cook. This is just an excuse to be lazy and not wake up early to make your food. If you are honestly trying to claim this, you should probably reevaluate your bodybuilding goals because it will only get harder when you have a job in the “real” world and, potentially, a family with kids.
My take on attaining the proper food is that it is much simpler than most make it out to be. You all have to remember that if you are in this situation, and money is tight, you are not going to have the luxury of making great tasting food. You simply need to make carbs, protein, and fat, put ‘em together, and eat + repeat. It’s that simple. haha, i agree with most of this, but that guy is either really smart or went to a slacker school. saying you have more time during college than during fulltime work is absolutely silly. can't comment on family/kids part since i don't have kids, but a fulltime job (standard hours. with commute, mine's usually 7.30-7.30) is infinitely more relaxing than uni where allnighters due to necessity (rather than poor time management) are a standard affair i'm actually a bit worried as to whether i can maintain my schedule when i get back to college in january. i hope i'll manage. Did you not know people of different majors at your school? There is a huge disparity among disciplines... or maybe it's just my bias from where I went to school. There are majors/schools that are incredibly difficult to get into (business) but in general are easy and don't require much time in the 4 year undergraduate. Or psychology and criminal justice are usually very easy as well- alot of people consider them copouts for people who don't want to put in any serious effort in undergrad - but can lead to careers where you are working ridiculous hours (i.e. med school, law school) And then there are obviously those situations that you are talking about, where people work their asses off in school and then get a 9-5 that requires absolutely nothing outside those hours. I personally don't know many people in that situation though :/ So it highly depends on where you went to school and how their programs are, and then what kind of field you are looking to get into. That being said, good luck when you go back to school, and keep up the workouts!
Don't know where you pulled that one from, that med school and law are easy undergrad. At least where I'm from those two kill you.
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Ah shipped an order of vitamin d to start off the new year with. Looking forward to it because liquid fish oil did wonders.
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On December 17 2010 00:54 sJarl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 00:36 vicariouscheese wrote:On December 16 2010 04:02 JeeJee wrote:On December 15 2010 20:43 sJarl wrote:Always push yourself We strife kill the logbook every time. About your diet, this part of an article I just read is just awesome: + Show Spoiler +As for eating, I have heard so many ‘BS’ excuses about how guys in college can’t eat right, or they are “poor college students” and can’t buy good bodybuilding food, or they take too many classes and just don’t have time to cook.
I could go on. I would say that eating complaints are my biggest pet peeve, and I will proceed to debunk all of these “myths.”
First, the “poor college student” excuse is just that, an excuse. Get a part-time job or, if you must, ask mom and dad for $50/week for food. If both don’t work out, you’re out of luck and might want to enter a profession such as male stripping or gay for pay… But really, one of those should work out.
Here’s what you purchase, hopefully at a Costco or similar store: industrial bag of rice, eggs, giant jug of olive oil (or similar oil), and find the best deal on beef or chicken and stock up. I guarantee you will be able to afford those food selections.
I found these foods while reading Justin Harris’ Q&A one time when a similar question was asked, went to the store, and viola! It worked.
Next, there is no college student on the planet that is too busy to cook food, period. If you can find time to watch TV during the day, you can cook. This is just an excuse to be lazy and not wake up early to make your food. If you are honestly trying to claim this, you should probably reevaluate your bodybuilding goals because it will only get harder when you have a job in the “real” world and, potentially, a family with kids.
My take on attaining the proper food is that it is much simpler than most make it out to be. You all have to remember that if you are in this situation, and money is tight, you are not going to have the luxury of making great tasting food. You simply need to make carbs, protein, and fat, put ‘em together, and eat + repeat. It’s that simple. haha, i agree with most of this, but that guy is either really smart or went to a slacker school. saying you have more time during college than during fulltime work is absolutely silly. can't comment on family/kids part since i don't have kids, but a fulltime job (standard hours. with commute, mine's usually 7.30-7.30) is infinitely more relaxing than uni where allnighters due to necessity (rather than poor time management) are a standard affair i'm actually a bit worried as to whether i can maintain my schedule when i get back to college in january. i hope i'll manage. Did you not know people of different majors at your school? There is a huge disparity among disciplines... or maybe it's just my bias from where I went to school. There are majors/schools that are incredibly difficult to get into (business) but in general are easy and don't require much time in the 4 year undergraduate. Or psychology and criminal justice are usually very easy as well- alot of people consider them copouts for people who don't want to put in any serious effort in undergrad - but can lead to careers where you are working ridiculous hours (i.e. med school, law school) And then there are obviously those situations that you are talking about, where people work their asses off in school and then get a 9-5 that requires absolutely nothing outside those hours. I personally don't know many people in that situation though :/ So it highly depends on where you went to school and how their programs are, and then what kind of field you are looking to get into. That being said, good luck when you go back to school, and keep up the workouts! Don't know where you pulled that one from, that med school and law are easy undergrad. At least where I'm from those two kill you.
What I was saying is that psychology and criminal justice are easy undergraduate, but they can lead to really hard things- which is the med school and law school.
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On December 17 2010 01:18 vicariouscheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 00:54 sJarl wrote:On December 17 2010 00:36 vicariouscheese wrote:On December 16 2010 04:02 JeeJee wrote:On December 15 2010 20:43 sJarl wrote:Always push yourself We strife kill the logbook every time. About your diet, this part of an article I just read is just awesome: + Show Spoiler +As for eating, I have heard so many ‘BS’ excuses about how guys in college can’t eat right, or they are “poor college students” and can’t buy good bodybuilding food, or they take too many classes and just don’t have time to cook.
I could go on. I would say that eating complaints are my biggest pet peeve, and I will proceed to debunk all of these “myths.”
First, the “poor college student” excuse is just that, an excuse. Get a part-time job or, if you must, ask mom and dad for $50/week for food. If both don’t work out, you’re out of luck and might want to enter a profession such as male stripping or gay for pay… But really, one of those should work out.
Here’s what you purchase, hopefully at a Costco or similar store: industrial bag of rice, eggs, giant jug of olive oil (or similar oil), and find the best deal on beef or chicken and stock up. I guarantee you will be able to afford those food selections.
I found these foods while reading Justin Harris’ Q&A one time when a similar question was asked, went to the store, and viola! It worked.
Next, there is no college student on the planet that is too busy to cook food, period. If you can find time to watch TV during the day, you can cook. This is just an excuse to be lazy and not wake up early to make your food. If you are honestly trying to claim this, you should probably reevaluate your bodybuilding goals because it will only get harder when you have a job in the “real” world and, potentially, a family with kids.
My take on attaining the proper food is that it is much simpler than most make it out to be. You all have to remember that if you are in this situation, and money is tight, you are not going to have the luxury of making great tasting food. You simply need to make carbs, protein, and fat, put ‘em together, and eat + repeat. It’s that simple. haha, i agree with most of this, but that guy is either really smart or went to a slacker school. saying you have more time during college than during fulltime work is absolutely silly. can't comment on family/kids part since i don't have kids, but a fulltime job (standard hours. with commute, mine's usually 7.30-7.30) is infinitely more relaxing than uni where allnighters due to necessity (rather than poor time management) are a standard affair i'm actually a bit worried as to whether i can maintain my schedule when i get back to college in january. i hope i'll manage. Did you not know people of different majors at your school? There is a huge disparity among disciplines... or maybe it's just my bias from where I went to school. There are majors/schools that are incredibly difficult to get into (business) but in general are easy and don't require much time in the 4 year undergraduate. Or psychology and criminal justice are usually very easy as well- alot of people consider them copouts for people who don't want to put in any serious effort in undergrad - but can lead to careers where you are working ridiculous hours (i.e. med school, law school) And then there are obviously those situations that you are talking about, where people work their asses off in school and then get a 9-5 that requires absolutely nothing outside those hours. I personally don't know many people in that situation though :/ So it highly depends on where you went to school and how their programs are, and then what kind of field you are looking to get into. That being said, good luck when you go back to school, and keep up the workouts! Don't know where you pulled that one from, that med school and law are easy undergrad. At least where I'm from those two kill you. What I was saying is that psychology and criminal justice are easy undergraduate, but they can lead to really hard things- which is the med school and law school.
I'm sorry, I misunderstood you then.
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Deadlifted for the first time in like 3 weeks. Did the workout i would have done if i had been deadlifting for the last 3 weeks. got 10x225 8x345(rude jump) 6x375 4x405 2x425 1x455. Got them all pretty solid. However, i'm going to be sore as fuck tomorrow. on my first day back at work T_T Then got 5x5 @ 205 for incline bench and 10,8,8,10 for pull ups.
Hopefully i'll cut a bit of weight over break since i'll be working and come back to school a) more shredded :D and b) stronger per pound of bodyweight and more explosive?
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On December 17 2010 05:39 decafchicken wrote:
Deadlifted for the first time in like 3 weeks. Did the workout i would have done if i had been deadlifting for the last 3 weeks. got 10x225 8x345(rude jump) 6x375 4x405 2x425 1x455. Got them all pretty solid. However, i'm going to be sore as fuck tomorrow. on my first day back at work T_T Then got 5x5 @ 205 for incline bench and 10,8,8,10 for pull ups.
Hopefully i'll cut a bit of weight over break since i'll be working and come back to school a) more shredded :D and b) stronger per pound of bodyweight and more explosive?
Shut up.
Suck my bodyweight bench and move along.
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On December 17 2010 05:46 funkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 05:39 decafchicken wrote:
Deadlifted for the first time in like 3 weeks. Did the workout i would have done if i had been deadlifting for the last 3 weeks. got 10x225 8x345(rude jump) 6x375 4x405 2x425 1x455. Got them all pretty solid. However, i'm going to be sore as fuck tomorrow. on my first day back at work T_T Then got 5x5 @ 205 for incline bench and 10,8,8,10 for pull ups.
Hopefully i'll cut a bit of weight over break since i'll be working and come back to school a) more shredded :D and b) stronger per pound of bodyweight and more explosive? Shut up. Suck my bodyweight bench and move along.
suck my bodyweight snatch :p
(dimsum don't make me look bad with your 1.5bw)
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On December 17 2010 05:46 funkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 05:39 decafchicken wrote:
Deadlifted for the first time in like 3 weeks. Did the workout i would have done if i had been deadlifting for the last 3 weeks. got 10x225 8x345(rude jump) 6x375 4x405 2x425 1x455. Got them all pretty solid. However, i'm going to be sore as fuck tomorrow. on my first day back at work T_T Then got 5x5 @ 205 for incline bench and 10,8,8,10 for pull ups.
Hopefully i'll cut a bit of weight over break since i'll be working and come back to school a) more shredded :D and b) stronger per pound of bodyweight and more explosive? Shut up. Suck my bodyweight bench and move along.
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Oh dear health and fitness gurus help me out.
I went to the gym on tuesday to do squat, press, and pull ups. During the press though, I felt a pain in my left shoulder (Seemed to be more towards the "front") and completely skipped my last set because I knew if I went any further I would of injured myself most likely. This has happened since I began pressing, but normally doesnt bother me in bench.
Reading through some of the posts, it seems like a rotator cuff? But I'm not sure. I've also decided to drop my weight in press (from only 90 lbs to 50/55 ._. ...not that strong I know lol). Should I stop my gains in benching too, or what?
Any clues on to what this may be due to?
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On December 17 2010 06:46 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 05:46 funkie wrote:On December 17 2010 05:39 decafchicken wrote:
Deadlifted for the first time in like 3 weeks. Did the workout i would have done if i had been deadlifting for the last 3 weeks. got 10x225 8x345(rude jump) 6x375 4x405 2x425 1x455. Got them all pretty solid. However, i'm going to be sore as fuck tomorrow. on my first day back at work T_T Then got 5x5 @ 205 for incline bench and 10,8,8,10 for pull ups.
Hopefully i'll cut a bit of weight over break since i'll be working and come back to school a) more shredded :D and b) stronger per pound of bodyweight and more explosive? Shut up. Suck my bodyweight bench and move along. suck my bodyweight snatch :p (dimsum don't make me look bad with your 1.5bw)
I'm going to put on 400lb then just walk around and sit on chairs. 565lb squats and lunges, ez.
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It seems to hurt in flexion and/or extension; when I unrack the bar I notice a strain, and when I push the bar upwards the strain is the greatest. It isn't as bad when I have it locked out, but its still there.
As requested.
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Honestly it seems like the glenohumeral joint, but I included two more pictures with a red outline of where the pain is. It is more of a focused pain than pain spreading throughout my shoulder, if that offers any other clues.
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If you need more info, I will do the best I can to help out.
Thanks eshlow :D
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Is it deep inside the joint? If so I would recommedn seeing a doc to figure out if its a labral issue.
I can't help without a more localized point of pain though... it doesn't help that you guys don't know any anatomy of the shoulder because generalized locations don't really tell me anything. :\
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Drinking away the soreness from deadlifting. My bad.
Also, we would all be broken without you eshlow
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hero eshlow. I habitually go through this thread to read old eshlow posts lol. One of the main reasons why I got into nutrition.
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Hmm, I've been wanting to ask ... at what body fat percentage do those pectoral cuts start to show? I have the muscle to have pecs, but I just don't have the body fat percentage.
Also, we would all be broken without you eshlow
Yeah, especially me. I can't thank eshlow enough for the help he's provided in this thread.
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This thread should be nicknamed the Eshlow Fan Club.
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On December 17 2010 14:57 Slithe wrote:
This thread should be nicknamed the Eshlow Fan Club.
I think "The Ask Eshlow Thread" is more suitable, because like half the posts in this thread are questions directed at him anyway.
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Got my chalk today, gonna lift heavy tomorrow!
Also, anyone got recommendations for multi-vitamins? I heard ON opti-men is pretty good?
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