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On December 25 2012 20:55 Laserist wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 19:01 Lavitage2 wrote:
doom bringer players who rush radiance
phantom lancer players who rush manta
naix players who rush mjollnir
dragon knight players who open something like treads drums pipe with no damage items All of them are legit in pub games. I am failed to see what is your point. Jungle doom, uncontested, can farm radi fast so it is ok. PL manta is okish when there is not that much gank. Naix mjollnir is pretty legit. Dk drum-treads is more than OK, pretty good actually, since DK shines after lvl16-late game. It is good to survive early game.
Why do people use "legit in pub games" on builds that are actually just bad but not terrible... nobody is scared of a doom with just a naked radiance, PL getting a manta is just asking to lose games cause you can't get the insanely powerful purge/radiance/heart items in time. I'm sure there are games you want to get it but not before at least two of the other 3  He's talking about "rushing" items here, meaning you get it as your first significant big item. Mjollnir first not optimal in any situation i can imagine, armlet midas just too strong.
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On December 25 2012 22:35 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 20:55 Laserist wrote:On December 25 2012 19:01 Lavitage2 wrote:
doom bringer players who rush radiance
phantom lancer players who rush manta
naix players who rush mjollnir
dragon knight players who open something like treads drums pipe with no damage items All of them are legit in pub games. I am failed to see what is your point. Jungle doom, uncontested, can farm radi fast so it is ok. PL manta is okish when there is not that much gank. Naix mjollnir is pretty legit. Dk drum-treads is more than OK, pretty good actually, since DK shines after lvl16-late game. It is good to survive early game. Why do people use "legit in pub games" on builds that are actually just bad but not terrible... nobody is scared of a doom with just a naked radiance, PL getting a manta is just asking to lose games cause you can't get the insanely powerful purge/radiance/heart items in time. I'm sure there are games you want to get it but not before at least two of the other 3 He's talking about "rushing" items here, meaning you get it as your first significant big item. Mjollnir first not optimal in any situation i can imagine, armlet midas just too strong.
its not like they were rushing rapier before boots or getting 6wraith bands, sure those builds might not be optimal (could actualy be in some games) but they arent BAD either
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On December 25 2012 22:35 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 20:55 Laserist wrote:On December 25 2012 19:01 Lavitage2 wrote:
doom bringer players who rush radiance
phantom lancer players who rush manta
naix players who rush mjollnir
dragon knight players who open something like treads drums pipe with no damage items All of them are legit in pub games. I am failed to see what is your point. Jungle doom, uncontested, can farm radi fast so it is ok. PL manta is okish when there is not that much gank. Naix mjollnir is pretty legit. Dk drum-treads is more than OK, pretty good actually, since DK shines after lvl16-late game. It is good to survive early game. Why do people use "legit in pub games" on builds that are actually just bad but not terrible... nobody is scared of a doom with just a naked radiance, PL getting a manta is just asking to lose games cause you can't get the insanely powerful purge/radiance/heart items in time. I'm sure there are games you want to get it but not before at least two of the other 3 He's talking about "rushing" items here, meaning you get it as your first significant big item. Mjollnir first not optimal in any situation i can imagine, armlet midas just too strong.
Sure I agree on 'nobody fears naked radi doom' part. The problem is, early big items leads late game super items which can be seen in pub games. This is why I used that term. In pubs organization & teamwork is not as good as competitive games for sure.
Give it a shot and try to obtain a 15 min radi on doom, I am pretty sure you can farm pretty good after that point. Same with early radi PL. early manta is meh on PL but think it as RoA.
I was not talking about the optimal point but it just works. Get mjollnir and use lightning to flash farm jungle and creeps around 15-20 min.
The problem is, players think they can obtain one big item without dying and with good farm. Unfortunately they coudln't because they are not that good.
Another point is there is no optimal build imho. Midas+armlet naix is optimal? I don't think so.
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huh whats wrong with midas armlet in pubgames
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Nothing is wrong, I am against to say that any build is optimal on any hero, especially in pubs.
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On December 25 2012 22:57 Laserist wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 22:35 nttea wrote:On December 25 2012 20:55 Laserist wrote:On December 25 2012 19:01 Lavitage2 wrote:
doom bringer players who rush radiance
phantom lancer players who rush manta
naix players who rush mjollnir
dragon knight players who open something like treads drums pipe with no damage items All of them are legit in pub games. I am failed to see what is your point. Jungle doom, uncontested, can farm radi fast so it is ok. PL manta is okish when there is not that much gank. Naix mjollnir is pretty legit. Dk drum-treads is more than OK, pretty good actually, since DK shines after lvl16-late game. It is good to survive early game. Why do people use "legit in pub games" on builds that are actually just bad but not terrible... nobody is scared of a doom with just a naked radiance, PL getting a manta is just asking to lose games cause you can't get the insanely powerful purge/radiance/heart items in time. I'm sure there are games you want to get it but not before at least two of the other 3 He's talking about "rushing" items here, meaning you get it as your first significant big item. Mjollnir first not optimal in any situation i can imagine, armlet midas just too strong. Sure I agree on 'nobody fears naked radi doom' part. The problem is, early big items leads late game super items which can be seen in pub games. This is why I used that term. In pubs organization & teamwork is not as good as competitive games for sure. Give it a shot and try to obtain a 15 min radi on doom, I am pretty sure you can farm pretty good after that point. Same with early radi PL. early manta is meh on PL but think it as RoA. I was not talking about the optimal point but it just works. Get mjollnir and use lightning to flash farm jungle and creeps around 15-20 min. The problem is, players think they can obtain one big item without dying and with good farm. Unfortunately they coudln't because they are not that good. Another point is there is no optimal build imho. Midas+armlet naix is optimal? I don't think so.
Hard to think of a situation where rushing mjollnir would be better than going midas into armlet, even if you don't have time for midas then armlet is much better than trying for mjollnir. Early big items leading to late game super items only look good cause getting early big items = you are doing well, get the best items and you win even more so i don't see why you can't whine about it in the qq thread.
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On December 26 2012 01:05 Laserist wrote:
Nothing is wrong, I am against to say that any build is optimal on any hero, especially in pubs.
Well that's because your enemy always consist of different heroes, and so does your team. Also, your farm comes into the picture, and the state of the game, are they pushing, are you pushing and soforth. So you're right, there is no "optimal build" on heroes, but there is a general guideline of which items are good to get. I would consider Midas + Armlet on Nai'x to be a pretty solid build in general.
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Just finished a game (that set a record for me) where not one, not two, not three, but four people failed to load into the game before the timer expired...
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just had a 60 min game where our solo mid invoker started with 2 gauntlets and got a total of 81 cs, was also the lowest lvl of anyone on the map since minute 6
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This is what happens if you play on the Eu server:
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You get a 3 man russian stack that only feeds. Fuck, Spectre and Lion on the safelane lost vs Windrunner and Jakiro.
And people ask why russians are so much hated, that's why, they feed and spam chat with their russian gibberish. I reported all 3 of them, I hope they'll get banned.
edit: Also I just want to say that the Huskar randomed Invoker and REPICKED. Nuff said.
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On December 26 2012 02:40 cilinder007 wrote:
just had a 60 min game where our solo mid invoker started with 2 gauntlets and got a total of 81 cs, was also the lowest lvl of anyone on the map since minute 6
LOL. k thats pretty funny. haha.
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Played a game where we have a Furion picker although we already have a random lone druid.
The dude afk jungle, I mean, literally afk.
He never comes out to even get some very easy 1 hit kill.
Never participate in any teamfight.
Don't even go near any of our heroes.
tp to lane to kill creep, never push tower.
tp back to foutain at full hp, mana, and wait for cd.
build midas, agh, refresher.
His stats in the end is 1-2-11, less assist than other players although his ulti should give him some free assist.
His level is lower than other players, although he has midas.
His dotabuff shows that he's lvl 95 with 2000+ games played..., and Furion is one of his most played heroes.
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On December 26 2012 04:11 canikizu wrote:
Played a game where we have a Furion picker although we already have a random lone druid.
The dude afk jungle, I mean, literally afk.
He never comes out to even get some very easy 1 hit kill.
Never participate in any teamfight.
Don't even go near any of our heroes.
tp to lane to kill creep, never push tower.
tp back to foutain at full hp, mana, and wait for cd.
build midas, agh, refresher.
His stats in the end is 1-2-11, less assist than other players although his ulti should give him some free assist.
His level is lower than other players, although he has midas.
His dotabuff shows that he's lvl 95 with 2000+ games played..., and Furion is one of his most played heroes.
So by "literally" afk in jungle, you mean something else entirely. Because I'm quite confused about how he could put his hero in the forest, physically be away from the keyboard - yet still be able to get gold/buy items.
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On December 26 2012 04:11 canikizu wrote:
Played a game where we have a Furion picker although we already have a random lone druid.
The dude afk jungle, I mean, literally afk.
He never comes out to even get some very easy 1 hit kill.
Never participate in any teamfight.
Don't even go near any of our heroes.
tp to lane to kill creep, never push tower.
tp back to foutain at full hp, mana, and wait for cd.
build midas, agh, refresher.
His stats in the end is 1-2-11, less assist than other players although his ulti should give him some free assist.
His level is lower than other players, although he has midas.
His dotabuff shows that he's lvl 95 with 2000+ games played..., and Furion is one of his most played heroes.
hahaha ok that was sounds awesome, fun to play tactics Kappa
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On December 26 2012 04:21 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2012 04:11 canikizu wrote:
Played a game where we have a Furion picker although we already have a random lone druid.
The dude afk jungle, I mean, literally afk.
He never comes out to even get some very easy 1 hit kill.
Never participate in any teamfight.
Don't even go near any of our heroes.
tp to lane to kill creep, never push tower.
tp back to foutain at full hp, mana, and wait for cd.
build midas, agh, refresher.
His stats in the end is 1-2-11, less assist than other players although his ulti should give him some free assist.
His level is lower than other players, although he has midas.
His dotabuff shows that he's lvl 95 with 2000+ games played..., and Furion is one of his most played heroes. So by "literally" afk in jungle, you mean something else entirely. Because I'm quite confused about how he could put his hero in the forest, physically be away from the keyboard - yet still be able to get gold/buy items.
he didn't mean literally literally
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On December 26 2012 04:25 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2012 04:21 Alur wrote:On December 26 2012 04:11 canikizu wrote:
Played a game where we have a Furion picker although we already have a random lone druid.
The dude afk jungle, I mean, literally afk.
He never comes out to even get some very easy 1 hit kill.
Never participate in any teamfight.
Don't even go near any of our heroes.
tp to lane to kill creep, never push tower.
tp back to foutain at full hp, mana, and wait for cd.
build midas, agh, refresher.
His stats in the end is 1-2-11, less assist than other players although his ulti should give him some free assist.
His level is lower than other players, although he has midas.
His dotabuff shows that he's lvl 95 with 2000+ games played..., and Furion is one of his most played heroes. So by "literally" afk in jungle, you mean something else entirely. Because I'm quite confused about how he could put his hero in the forest, physically be away from the keyboard - yet still be able to get gold/buy items. he didn't mean literally literally
I've found that the word "literally" doesn't lend itself to being used figuratively, but who am I to stop progress.
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Morph on my team that went Waveform + Stats (And completely skipped his morph ability).. And he PICKED morphling, wasn't a random.
Good god the droolers out there.
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On December 26 2012 04:11 canikizu wrote:
Played a game where we have a Furion picker although we already have a random lone druid.
The dude afk jungle, I mean, literally afk.
He never comes out to even get some very easy 1 hit kill.
Never participate in any teamfight.
Don't even go near any of our heroes.
tp to lane to kill creep, never push tower.
tp back to foutain at full hp, mana, and wait for cd.
build midas, agh, refresher.
His stats in the end is 1-2-11, less assist than other players although his ulti should give him some free assist.
His level is lower than other players, although he has midas.
His dotabuff shows that he's lvl 95 with 2000+ games played..., and Furion is one of his most played heroes.
If this actually happened and is true.. You sir win the thread.
We need to like have some people go through all the pages of this thread over the course of a few days and hand-pick the best of the best QQ/facepalm moments.. And then put it into a single compilation.
I'd definitely put this one top 5.
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On December 26 2012 04:40 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2012 04:25 nttea wrote:On December 26 2012 04:21 Alur wrote:On December 26 2012 04:11 canikizu wrote:
Played a game where we have a Furion picker although we already have a random lone druid.
The dude afk jungle, I mean, literally afk.
He never comes out to even get some very easy 1 hit kill.
Never participate in any teamfight.
Don't even go near any of our heroes.
tp to lane to kill creep, never push tower.
tp back to foutain at full hp, mana, and wait for cd.
build midas, agh, refresher.
His stats in the end is 1-2-11, less assist than other players although his ulti should give him some free assist.
His level is lower than other players, although he has midas.
His dotabuff shows that he's lvl 95 with 2000+ games played..., and Furion is one of his most played heroes. So by "literally" afk in jungle, you mean something else entirely. Because I'm quite confused about how he could put his hero in the forest, physically be away from the keyboard - yet still be able to get gold/buy items. he didn't mean literally literally I've found that the word "literally" doesn't lend itself to being used figuratively, but who am I to stop progress.
Yep, word is gone man... like metagame and troll just accept it and move on.
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On December 26 2012 04:46 Enzymatic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2012 04:11 canikizu wrote:
Played a game where we have a Furion picker although we already have a random lone druid.
The dude afk jungle, I mean, literally afk.
He never comes out to even get some very easy 1 hit kill.
Never participate in any teamfight.
Don't even go near any of our heroes.
tp to lane to kill creep, never push tower.
tp back to foutain at full hp, mana, and wait for cd.
build midas, agh, refresher.
His stats in the end is 1-2-11, less assist than other players although his ulti should give him some free assist.
His level is lower than other players, although he has midas.
His dotabuff shows that he's lvl 95 with 2000+ games played..., and Furion is one of his most played heroes. If this actually happened and is true.. You sir win the thread. We need to like have some people go through all the pages of this thread over the course of a few days and hand-pick the best of the best QQ/facepalm moments.. And then put it into a single compilation. I'd definitely put this one top 5.
I forgot to mention that his first item is Ring of Basil, and he said that he doesn't go gank because the enemy will see his aura.
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