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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
GG_DotA2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States199 Posts
November 02 2012 00:44 GMT
#3881
I don't get these tryhard 5 man stacks, i mean are they that desperate for a win, a chance to boost their self esteem that they have to group up with 4 other people and stomp over random pubbers in a match and constantly flame for being bad?

I mean seriously, why can't they just play cm if going to 5 man since that requires more coordination and teamwork. They try so hard to win, it's just a game.
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Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 03:13:57
November 02 2012 02:43 GMT
#3882
On November 02 2012 09:44 GG_DotA2 wrote:
I don't get these tryhard 5 man stacks, i mean are they that desperate for a win, a chance to boost their self esteem that they have to group up with 4 other people and stomp over random pubbers in a match and constantly flame for being bad?

I mean seriously, why can't they just play cm if going to 5 man since that requires more coordination and teamwork. They try so hard to win, it's just a game.


I still remember one of first games in dota 2 on total shit mmr i get 5 stack try hard that takes Lich, LD, Ursa, WL and some other suppor (WR maybe). I recognized immediatly that they will go Rosh, but sadly half of my team was braindead and other was bad. (like pick AM after me typing they will go rosh push) and we lost, but boy, those 5 guys were acting like super pro all chat type all time.

EDIT : Btw, i don't really blame anyone for not going CM, its silly to wait 15 mins in queqe for game.
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
November 02 2012 04:20 GMT
#3883
playing as Shadow Fiend when my PC crash, it took a couple of minutes to start up and everything.
Get back into the game and Im not abandon, sweet we can still win this game

suddenly this SkeleKing start talking trash and say it will be my fault if we lost, ES pointed out that most of the time that I was away the game was paused and the real time Im not there is less then a minute

then SkeleKing said I fail as mid and caused the QOP to get fat, ES againt pointed out that I was laning top with him and Drow was in mid

then SkeleKing and his buddy Huskar which was something like 4-10 disconnect immediately

I can't really understand some people .....
Put quote here for readability
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
November 02 2012 14:00 GMT
#3884
On November 02 2012 13:20 sandyph wrote:
playing as Shadow Fiend when my PC crash, it took a couple of minutes to start up and everything.
Get back into the game and Im not abandon, sweet we can still win this game

suddenly this SkeleKing start talking trash and say it will be my fault if we lost, ES pointed out that most of the time that I was away the game was paused and the real time Im not there is less then a minute

then SkeleKing said I fail as mid and caused the QOP to get fat, ES againt pointed out that I was laning top with him and Drow was in mid

then SkeleKing and his buddy Huskar which was something like 4-10 disconnect immediately

I can't really understand some people .....


I hope you commended that ES.
DeaDoXFighting
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada115 Posts
November 02 2012 15:05 GMT
#3885
Public game logic : If I decide to carry then everyone picks a carry.
: If I decide to go support, then everyone picks a carry and can't farm.

Moral of this story, public games are carry wars.
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Nymbul
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 19:27:12
November 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#3886
Very high matchmaking. I don't mind playing pure support (position 5 the way Chinese players describe it) but damn it seems like I HAVE to go it because nobody else does.

Play CM, complete ward coverage and counterwarding the enemy all game, supporting allies every fight, never overextending beyond vision alone or ahead of the team. Morphling decides to suicide half the time instead of going for the easy kills and we lose.

Only find out at the end that the enemy gave up warding after 20 min and still my team walk blindly into idiotic positions and I'm dragged along for the ride.

The joys of playing support to morons
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
November 02 2012 19:29 GMT
#3887
On November 03 2012 04:26 Nymbul wrote:
Very high matchmaking. I don't mind playing pure support (position 5 the way Chinese players describe it) but damn it seems like I HAVE to go it because nobody else does.

Play CM, complete ward coverage and counterwarding the enemy all game, supporting allies every fight, never overextending beyond vision alone or ahead of the team. Morphling decides to suicide half the time instead of going for the easy kills and we lose.

Only find out at the end that the enemy gave up warding after 20 min and still my team walk blindly into idiotic positions and I'm dragged along for the ride.

The joys of playing support to morons


Don't play support.

Unless I'm queuing with friends, I know for a fact that it is a waste of time.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
November 02 2012 19:33 GMT
#3888
Does the '5-man stack, must be tryhard' thing even apply still? Afaik 5-man stacks will generally only be matched against other 5-man parties.
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NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
November 02 2012 19:43 GMT
#3889
^You can face 5mans even solo, but in those cases it checks wheter your team has smaller stacks and evaluates the skill levels. Basically if it's 5x solo vs full stack, the solos would have each rating equal or higher to the highest one in the stack.

Tbh I don't like to play 5man AP games at all, it's not about getting put against another 5man but instead getting put against a team that picks lineups that wouldn't fall through bans in CM. You get to play against ridiculously tough team compositions when wanting to random or take it easy... I get more relaxing games with silly picks in CM than AP when queuing with friends.

I've started to queue more to draft modes too lately, RD is pretty okay most of the time but it seems SD wants to always give superb pool of heroes to one side most of the time. When it randoms reasonably though, it's playable.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 03 2012 01:04 GMT
#3890
Void/CM lane top in my game, me as Axe and Sand King bot.

We're absolutely fucking dominating the lane, I'm getting mad farm. Void dies by 2nd minute. Void goes 0-3 by 6-8 minutes, then afk's in fountain.

:|

His items were regular boots and 4 branches and ring of regen.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
November 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#3891
I've got a major case of QQing here. I played as razor against a lineup of lich, lion and lina (+ drow and sniper). Someone picks pugna and goes mid, and i think "great, ward is going to own this silly nuking team".
Except that pugna was russian and never skilled neither ward (put point in stats instead after maxing his 3 other skills) >_<. I went 30-5 or something like that, yet we almost managed to loose.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
November 03 2012 01:11 GMT
#3892
What is this new "tryhards" insult that is going around. So I guess people aren't supposed to try or something...
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 03 2012 01:12 GMT
#3893
On November 03 2012 10:11 AnomalySC2 wrote:
What is this new "tryhards" insult that is going around. So I guess people aren't supposed to try or something...


You might notice the word "hard" after the word "try"

It's people who take the game so seriously they have an aneurysm if people don't play at Na'Vi level and are generally horrible players themselves.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
November 03 2012 01:19 GMT
#3894
On November 03 2012 10:11 AnomalySC2 wrote:
What is this new "tryhards" insult that is going around. So I guess people aren't supposed to try or something...
F'ING TRYHARD
rA.BreeZe
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada56 Posts
November 03 2012 01:21 GMT
#3895
On November 03 2012 10:12 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:11 AnomalySC2 wrote:
What is this new "tryhards" insult that is going around. So I guess people aren't supposed to try or something...


You might notice the word "hard" after the word "try"

It's people who take the game so seriously they have an aneurysm if people don't play at Na'Vi level and are generally horrible players themselves.


The issue is when you have people here who complain that people who play with 4 other friends in a stack of 5 are try hards because they choose AP. Like I'm supposed to play CM everytime I play with my friends??
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
November 03 2012 01:23 GMT
#3896
On November 03 2012 00:05 DeaDoXFighting wrote:
Public game logic : If I decide to carry then everyone picks a carry.
: If I decide to go support, then everyone picks a carry and can't farm.

Moral of this story, public games are carry wars.


Thats why i pick last in pubs..
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Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 01:45:01
November 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#3897
- Really terrible players that somehow make it out of the normal bracket into High bracket games. (People that can't pull/stack creeps, don't know how to play a support in a tri-lane, don't know how to use their heroes skills properly, generally suck, etc). Like I don't get it.. The amount of bad players in the so called "High" bracket is just unreal.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
November 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#3898
Not possible to play with friends who are new to the game, seemingly everybody is smurfing after the beta invite wave and letting a friend with 5 games played play against somebody who has hundreds of games just gets frustrating.
734pot
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia294 Posts
November 03 2012 05:57 GMT
#3899
People that play the game without knowing the slightest bit about it. I mean, you can at least look up the basics and know not to autoattack constantly and stand in really dangerous positions in the lane.
meatbox
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia349 Posts
November 03 2012 08:48 GMT
#3900
best server for australian players? im getting a ping of 350ms minimum to SE asia
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