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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
April 23 2015 10:29 GMT
#26521
In draft right now, russian cap. SOMEHOW TROLL AND SNIPER DID NOT GET BANNED! SOMEHOW THE OTHER TEAM DID NOT TAKE TROLL OR SNIPER IN FIRST PICK! we first pick AA jug.

Why? WHY?????
No Artosis, you are robin
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 13:49:22
April 23 2015 13:47 GMT
#26522
Ranked game.

I don't know that many heroes and a lot of people usually just random. So I though that if I someone else was going to random, I could random and if I got someone I didn't know, I'd switch with them (and if I got a character I know I'd get 200 gold).

Sound reasonable?

So I ask my teammates. Is anyone going to random? Can I random and switch with you if I don't like my hero. Sure, go for it, says one guy. So I random CM. Never played CM before actually. So I go okay, let's switch.

Assuming, of course, that he would pick whatever character I wanted to play.

He also randoms. Gets Earth Spirit. He doesn't know ES. I don't know ES. He doesn't re-roll.

Keeps yelling at me to switch with him or he will feed.


What the actual fuck. What the fuck was I thinking, with my logic and everything. Should have just first picked Venge and played bitch support like every other game.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
ChaoticOrder
Profile Joined April 2015
35 Posts
April 23 2015 17:02 GMT
#26523
On April 23 2015 22:47 DinoMight wrote:
Ranked game.

I don't know that many heroes and a lot of people usually just random. So I though that if I someone else was going to random, I could random and if I got someone I didn't know, I'd switch with them (and if I got a character I know I'd get 200 gold).

Sound reasonable?

So I ask my teammates. Is anyone going to random? Can I random and switch with you if I don't like my hero. Sure, go for it, says one guy. So I random CM. Never played CM before actually. So I go okay, let's switch.

Assuming, of course, that he would pick whatever character I wanted to play.

He also randoms. Gets Earth Spirit. He doesn't know ES. I don't know ES. He doesn't re-roll.

Keeps yelling at me to switch with him or he will feed.


What the actual fuck. What the fuck was I thinking, with my logic and everything. Should have just first picked Venge and played bitch support like every other game.


Never random in ranked.
I am hate incarnate.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 17:14:52
April 23 2015 17:14 GMT
#26524
On April 24 2015 02:02 ChaoticOrder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 22:47 DinoMight wrote:
Ranked game.

I don't know that many heroes and a lot of people usually just random. So I though that if I someone else was going to random, I could random and if I got someone I didn't know, I'd switch with them (and if I got a character I know I'd get 200 gold).

Sound reasonable?

So I ask my teammates. Is anyone going to random? Can I random and switch with you if I don't like my hero. Sure, go for it, says one guy. So I random CM. Never played CM before actually. So I go okay, let's switch.

Assuming, of course, that he would pick whatever character I wanted to play.

He also randoms. Gets Earth Spirit. He doesn't know ES. I don't know ES. He doesn't re-roll.

Keeps yelling at me to switch with him or he will feed.


What the actual fuck. What the fuck was I thinking, with my logic and everything. Should have just first picked Venge and played bitch support like every other game.


Never random in ranked.


Random in ranked is stupid. I figured if someone is going to random then at least maybe I can get 200 gold out of it?

But yeah I agree, never random in ranked.

Never. If you can't decide juist asks omeone on your team and coordinate.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 17:15:41
April 23 2015 17:15 GMT
#26525
I random in ranked probably 3/5 games
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ChaoticOrder
Profile Joined April 2015
35 Posts
April 23 2015 17:56 GMT
#26526
I just hate it when someone randoms in ranked. Specially when they can communicate~
It's just bad for the team as a whole if you get a hero you don't want (even if you can play him).

But yeah I guess it doesn't matter since most teams don't even try to coordinate anyway lul.
I just personally hate it.
I am hate incarnate.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
April 23 2015 17:57 GMT
#26527
Random when 3 or more heroes are picked basically says "I don't give a fuck about this game, I don't care if I get a carry even though we already have one, I simply don't give a single fuck.".
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
April 23 2015 20:14 GMT
#26528
On April 24 2015 02:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Random when 3 or more heroes are picked basically says "I don't give a fuck about this game, I don't care if I get a carry even though we already have one, I simply don't give a single fuck.".


This +10000

You're basically saying "I am playing my own game of Dota where I am this hero and I try to get last hits on creeps and use my abilities AND NOTHING ELSE MATTERS."
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 23 2015 20:42 GMT
#26529
On April 23 2015 19:20 VelJa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 02:39 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:43 VelJa wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:07 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.

lol what ? stealing 2 last hit will affect the mental of the carry and he will miss LH & get an immense pressure ???? lol
hahah wtf can i answer to this xD


Yes. Because you're having to GUESS if your support is going to go for a particular hit. Which is very disruptive to farming rhythm. Again, its not the act of actually taking a couple of hits. Its the fact that it means the carry has to now guess at whether the support is going to compete any particular LH. Which further complicates decisions on when to go for the hit leading to having to consistently hit earlier than ideal to try to ensure regular farm. Which leads to more missed.

Made worse, as Plansix pointed out, if they also screw with the creep aggro. God knows its annoying enough when a support doesn't know how to control it properly.


No you don't have to guess cuz u take 2 LAST HITS 2 DUDE NOT 10.


Except its not "2 last hits" its randomly hitting the damn lane. You're talking about something totally different. Seriously if you think its not disruptive then go and start just randomly autoattacking the lane as a support and see how long it takes for you to get yelled at.


On topic: Just had a troll, on my team of course, go 1-11.

ONE KILL ELEVEN DEATHS ON A BROKEN HERO. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 21:37:20
April 23 2015 21:29 GMT
#26530
Randoming in ranked isn't a problem, so long as you do it early. Randoming after 2-3 picks is a reportable offense, imo.

Also people who random then tell other people to random and swap, and then refuse to swap because they don't like the random.... those people are the scum of the earth.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 21:39:18
April 23 2015 21:36 GMT
#26531
On April 24 2015 06:29 Belisarius wrote:
Randoming in ranked isn't a problem, so long as you do it early. Randoming after 2-3 picks is a reportable offense, imo.

Also people who random then tell other people to random and swap, and then refuse to swap because they don't like the random.... those people are the scum of the earth.


Honestly I think any random past the first guy is just being a dickhead.

My team won a game yesterday with 1 silencer counterpick. Silencer + Refreshern = ~12 second silence vs Spirit Breaker, Lesh, Lina, Jugg..... we annihilated them in every team fight.

Knowing that just one counter pick can be so strong... why would you say "fuck it, I'll take my chances out of the 100+ heroes to get out that fits my team's needs"

EDIT - IN RANKED

I understand sometimes you just want to play a certain hero.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
ChaoticOrder
Profile Joined April 2015
35 Posts
April 24 2015 00:12 GMT
#26532
On April 24 2015 05:14 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 02:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Random when 3 or more heroes are picked basically says "I don't give a fuck about this game, I don't care if I get a carry even though we already have one, I simply don't give a single fuck.".


This +10000

You're basically saying "I am playing my own game of Dota where I am this hero and I try to get last hits on creeps and use my abilities AND NOTHING ELSE MATTERS."


"Can you please pick a -insert needed role-? we need it." "DO I LOOK LIKE I CARE TO YOU DO I DO I? I DONT!" *Randoms* oesn't find a suitable lane* *Earth collides with Jupiter* *Zombies* *HOHO HAHA!* *ggwp*

On an irrelevant side note:
Some drunk guy today picked sniper, kept trolling, died first blood and I just knew the game was lost. Then he somehow makes a comeback while saying all that weird shit in voice and trolling real hard but actually plays really well between his trolls.

I really really don't get it. Can people be so lifeless that they get their kicks from ruining other people's lives?
I am hate incarnate.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 01:40:31
April 24 2015 01:39 GMT
#26533
One thing i know is that not everybody cares about mmr and actually you know cares more about having fun .. And some looks like they are trolling cause they are in high spirits and laughing alot but when in truth they are just happy to be playing and are actually serious or practicing some stuff out.

People just expect too much like dota is a job or something.
this is a quote
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
April 24 2015 03:01 GMT
#26534
How do people have hundreds/thousands of games played on a SINGLE hero and still not know how to play it right. I'm ok with slightly weird skill builds but no morph morph and no focus fire wr is BEYOND stupid ESPECIALLY when it's ranked and you have 100+ games on the hero.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
April 24 2015 08:22 GMT
#26535
On April 24 2015 05:42 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 19:20 VelJa wrote:
On April 23 2015 02:39 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:43 VelJa wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:07 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.

lol what ? stealing 2 last hit will affect the mental of the carry and he will miss LH & get an immense pressure ???? lol
hahah wtf can i answer to this xD


Yes. Because you're having to GUESS if your support is going to go for a particular hit. Which is very disruptive to farming rhythm. Again, its not the act of actually taking a couple of hits. Its the fact that it means the carry has to now guess at whether the support is going to compete any particular LH. Which further complicates decisions on when to go for the hit leading to having to consistently hit earlier than ideal to try to ensure regular farm. Which leads to more missed.

Made worse, as Plansix pointed out, if they also screw with the creep aggro. God knows its annoying enough when a support doesn't know how to control it properly.


No you don't have to guess cuz u take 2 LAST HITS 2 DUDE NOT 10.


Except its not "2 last hits" its randomly hitting the damn lane. You're talking about something totally different. Seriously if you think its not disruptive then go and start just randomly autoattacking the lane as a support and see how long it takes for you to get yelled at.

no i don't attack randomly lane, i take 2 last hits
I dont push the lane, i'm stiull making stack pull zoning offlaner and all shit
i'm just taking 2 lasthits
please focus and give me a correct answer
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 10:26:24
April 24 2015 10:26 GMT
#26536
Mid storm lost to alch. fml
I carry hard!
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
April 24 2015 10:47 GMT
#26537
mid zeus lost to alch. fml
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
ChaoticOrder
Profile Joined April 2015
35 Posts
April 24 2015 11:34 GMT
#26538
On April 24 2015 10:39 goody153 wrote:
One thing i know is that not everybody cares about mmr and actually you know cares more about having fun .. And some looks like they are trolling cause they are in high spirits and laughing alot but when in truth they are just happy to be playing and are actually serious or practicing some stuff out.

People just expect too much like dota is a job or something.


Then play normal mm?

People expect their teammates to play like they should.
Naturally, when you do some sort of "ranking" in any kind of thing in life, you sure are taking it seriously, at least for the time where yoru rank might be affected. It's human nature to be competetive.

So don't tell me some dude going in game trolling everybody and insulting everybody, then trollpicking and letting his teammates die etc etc etc is someone looking to have fun and doesn't care about mmr because he's in "high spirit".

As a matter of fact, when I play normal mm I pick heroes I don't like and I crack jokes up on the mic (horrible ones really) and everybody laughs and we dont tryhard and we fail miserably sometimes but it's fun. Because the whole team is on the same page, we're ALL having fun. I'm not getting my kicks by ruining all other 4 people's day. Ofcourse those trollers are still lurkinng around and appear betwee ngames but eh, for the most part it's not that annoying.

So yeah I just only hope that when people play ranked, they think about their team a bit more.

Anyway, sorry for the prolonged QQ! That game really haunts me now lmao. Cheers~
I am hate incarnate.
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 24 2015 13:03 GMT
#26539
On April 24 2015 17:22 VelJa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 05:42 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 23 2015 19:20 VelJa wrote:
On April 23 2015 02:39 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:43 VelJa wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:07 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.

lol what ? stealing 2 last hit will affect the mental of the carry and he will miss LH & get an immense pressure ???? lol
hahah wtf can i answer to this xD


Yes. Because you're having to GUESS if your support is going to go for a particular hit. Which is very disruptive to farming rhythm. Again, its not the act of actually taking a couple of hits. Its the fact that it means the carry has to now guess at whether the support is going to compete any particular LH. Which further complicates decisions on when to go for the hit leading to having to consistently hit earlier than ideal to try to ensure regular farm. Which leads to more missed.

Made worse, as Plansix pointed out, if they also screw with the creep aggro. God knows its annoying enough when a support doesn't know how to control it properly.


No you don't have to guess cuz u take 2 LAST HITS 2 DUDE NOT 10.


Except its not "2 last hits" its randomly hitting the damn lane. You're talking about something totally different. Seriously if you think its not disruptive then go and start just randomly autoattacking the lane as a support and see how long it takes for you to get yelled at.

no i don't attack randomly lane, i take 2 last hits
I dont push the lane, i'm stiull making stack pull zoning offlaner and all shit
i'm just taking 2 lasthits
please focus and give me a correct answer


It's still bad play that doesn't really help that much. If your carry could get his first item 30/60 sec earlier that will make his item progression exponentially faster since his first item will most likely help him get gold faster for more items. Besides, if you are a good support you would know there are other ways to get that gold by means such as pulling, ganking, securing the runes (bounty), jungling if your hero allows it.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
April 24 2015 13:27 GMT
#26540
Played a game yesterday against Axe Techies QoP CM Tide

My team was Venge (me) Aba (wanted to carry FML) Puck Huskar and one more.

So obviously early game they will be a total nuissance, but they can't actually win against us if we play safe and just farm. Now tell this to my team. Yelling at each other the whole time, muting each other to the point where I have to tell them what the other is saying. Huskar tells us all to fuck off, Aba keeps bitching, Puck keeps telling Aba that carry Aba is stupid etc.

Spent the better part of an hour telling everyone to shut the fuck up and just play. Watch out techies, don't go over there by yourself, you need to farm not try to take a fight at THE WORST POINT IN THE GAME FOR YOU TO FIGHT.

Why do people automatically assume that if you're losing, you need to 5 man and team fight? How does that make any sense at all? If you're down a lot in kills, it means they are killing you and have more farm. Do you.... force more fights when you know you're going to lose OR try to farm so your late game composition is better than theirs.

After we won a couple of team fights even the QoP on their side was saying they can't win against us.


We WON that game and I rage quit dota after. UGHH....... THIS GAME!
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
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