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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
April 22 2015 13:11 GMT
#26501
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.

My QQ: Sniper in my game, solo midd, skillbuild 4/1/1 + stats
wtf ?
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 22 2015 15:07 GMT
#26502
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
April 22 2015 15:33 GMT
#26503
Guys,

The QQ was not about carries who don't want to randomly share CS with their support.

It's about standing in a lane and watching your carry miss like 40-50% of last hits, then getting flamed when you ask to take a couple to finish an important item.

If you're going to call safelane carry and pick your hero without discussing with your team at all, then at least be fucking able to get your last hits.

There's nothing more frustrating than trying to support an underfarmed AND counterpicked carry then getting flamed for everything you do that they don't like.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
April 22 2015 15:43 GMT
#26504
On April 23 2015 00:07 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.

lol what ? stealing 2 last hit will affect the mental of the carry and he will miss LH & get an immense pressure ???? lol
hahah wtf can i answer to this xD
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 22 2015 15:47 GMT
#26505
Supports who go for last hits randomly suck ass and I hate them with the fire of a nova. I don't care if you need to take a couple last hits to get wards/boots/urn or some shit, but just tell me. Fucking with the creep agro is annoying enough without them randomly attacking the wave.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
April 22 2015 15:55 GMT
#26506
play mid nobody messing with the creep aggro .. it's glorious
this is a quote
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
April 22 2015 17:34 GMT
#26507
It's the reason i play offlane mostly. I just can't deal with random people, they're fucking stupid, you would think at around 5k people wouldnt still fucking blow.
<3
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 17:40:08
April 22 2015 17:39 GMT
#26508
On April 23 2015 00:43 VelJa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:07 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.

lol what ? stealing 2 last hit will affect the mental of the carry and he will miss LH & get an immense pressure ???? lol
hahah wtf can i answer to this xD


Yes. Because you're having to GUESS if your support is going to go for a particular hit. Which is very disruptive to farming rhythm. Again, its not the act of actually taking a couple of hits. Its the fact that it means the carry has to now guess at whether the support is going to compete any particular LH. Which further complicates decisions on when to go for the hit leading to having to consistently hit earlier than ideal to try to ensure regular farm. Which leads to more missed.

Made worse, as Plansix pointed out, if they also screw with the creep aggro. God knows its annoying enough when a support doesn't know how to control it properly.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
April 22 2015 17:42 GMT
#26509
Well the lesson I have recently learned is a team with troll + jugg can't actually lose in queue. Even if you rape the troll midlane and hes completely braindead. Jugg can just fix everything with his R key. And we have to wait for fucking Starladder to fix this broken shit? Thanks valve.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 22 2015 18:10 GMT
#26510
If you are against jug, your sole purpose as a position 5 support is to obtain boots and a ghostcepter. Hard life.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 22 2015 18:11 GMT
#26511
thats a funny way to spell euls
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 18:16:17
April 22 2015 18:15 GMT
#26512
Also valid. Guess if matters there is a troll there as well.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
April 22 2015 18:17 GMT
#26513
On April 23 2015 00:43 VelJa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:07 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.

lol what ? stealing 2 last hit will affect the mental of the carry and he will miss LH & get an immense pressure ???? lol
hahah wtf can i answer to this xD


Missing CS->Bad
Trying to lasthit as support because of that ->Worse and more cs missed

Being a suppport and telling the carry "i need some lasthits please"->Good
Carry letting you get 200g and buying wards/flying-->Better
Go pro or die trying
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
April 22 2015 19:31 GMT
#26514
So I had a huskar that didn't use burning spears all game. 1st skill point in it at lvl 22. Is this a thing?!
I carry hard!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 22 2015 19:32 GMT
#26515
no
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ChaoticOrder
Profile Joined April 2015
35 Posts
April 22 2015 19:54 GMT
#26516
Soooooo what do you call a player that decides to throw because spirit braker "irritates" him in a WON game? "Do I look like I care?" he said.

(We still won because he "changed his mind")

I try being nice to people but everybody's just too childish what is this T.T
I am hate incarnate.
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
April 22 2015 20:29 GMT
#26517
I have twice as many games on dire and I like radiant more ... fml !
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
April 22 2015 21:33 GMT
#26518
StarCraft makes you hate yourself. Dota makes you hate everyone else.

I can't decide which is better.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 21:48:44
April 22 2015 21:38 GMT
#26519
People who play Troll and Sniper in Unranked should be fucking castrated.

User was warned for this post
☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
April 23 2015 10:20 GMT
#26520
On April 23 2015 02:39 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:43 VelJa wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:07 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.

lol what ? stealing 2 last hit will affect the mental of the carry and he will miss LH & get an immense pressure ???? lol
hahah wtf can i answer to this xD


Yes. Because you're having to GUESS if your support is going to go for a particular hit. Which is very disruptive to farming rhythm. Again, its not the act of actually taking a couple of hits. Its the fact that it means the carry has to now guess at whether the support is going to compete any particular LH. Which further complicates decisions on when to go for the hit leading to having to consistently hit earlier than ideal to try to ensure regular farm. Which leads to more missed.

Made worse, as Plansix pointed out, if they also screw with the creep aggro. God knows its annoying enough when a support doesn't know how to control it properly.


No you don't have to guess cuz u take 2 LAST HITS 2 DUDE NOT 10.
No this is not "edisruptive for farming rhythm" haha it's 2 creep man come on
No it don't complicate decisions,

I just take 2 cs in the 1st 5minutes. I don't fuck lane control, I usually take the one my carry can't take (and even if he can take).
If this allow me to get sentry for deward the pulling camp, or up chicken, or get my basilus or even a TP to backup I take it
IT's 20x more important that anything else dude. Your carry will get gold after cuz u stack ancient or woods for him. he don't need gold in early (some exceptions) he need gold for his 1st item after his boots usually.
You know what I mean celestial, you're here for a loooong time, in fact I rly think we are agree but maybe not on the form ?

On April 23 2015 03:17 DV G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:43 VelJa wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:07 -Celestial- wrote:
On April 22 2015 22:11 VelJa wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:50 blobrus wrote:
On April 21 2015 05:41 DinoMight wrote:
Also, guys who complain whenever you take any last hits as a support but miss easily 30-40% of LH themselves. How annoying is that shit.

I'm gonna agree with everyone else. It's the most frustrating thing in the world when your support takes lhs. You force them to play a stupid guessing game of when you're going to try to take their cs and as a result you end up hitting early/late and miss even more cs. Don't do that shit.

yeah sure, a support taking 3 lh compltly ruin your game
idiot reflexion.
Do that shit. just take 3/4 creeps.Not al lthe farm. This will force ur carry to stay focus too.


Its not the act of actually taking the LHs that's the problem. Its the psychological effect. For a carry if the support is randomly going for last hits some of the time then the carry has to constantly guess at whether or not they're going to go for one and hence is forced to try to LH early right at the limit of damage output. Which leads to a lot of missed last hits and completely disrupted farming rhythm. Which leads to poor farm.

It does nothing to improve focus and everything to totally ruin it.

lol what ? stealing 2 last hit will affect the mental of the carry and he will miss LH & get an immense pressure ???? lol
hahah wtf can i answer to this xD


Missing CS->Bad
Trying to lasthit as support because of that ->Worse and more cs missed

Being a suppport and telling the carry "i need some lasthits please"->Good
Carry letting you get 200g and buying wards/flying-->Better

Yeah, I'm total agreed with you on this point.
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
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