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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
As Bluemoon already pointed out he did clearly tell people to stop and I would consider most of the "flaming" you think you saw as banter or maybe give some concrete examples on what you think was so bad that it kills TLIH for you. Admittedly I probably did cross the line a bit in regards to shrinkz but that is hardly encouraging the shitshow. | ||
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
Not too long ago everyone was having massive fun with these inhouses (me included) | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On April 03 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote: The situation need to be addressed by the staff, either by separating the players who do not want to play with shrink or some other route. Because the problem is not going too work itself out. Agreed, this is on Emu/Myself mainly to handle this. Ideally we could let anyone be the host of the lobby, but it seems that every time that someone outside of the norm (Me/Blue/Phoenix) hosts there are issues. If things like this continue then I'll just have to make designated lobby hosts. On April 03 2016 20:08 TheEmulator wrote: Other ideas are welcome, but as of now it seems like the best option would be to give shrink another chance to play under the condition that he's not allowed to draft. That's really the root of the problem from what I can tell. I know he was asked to not draft already and he didn't listen, but if it comes from staff and we make the consequences clear it should be more effective. This 100%. No one should ever draft every time that they play and we will need people to enforce that. This is why I think we need to start having designated lobby leaders. On April 03 2016 23:43 PhoenixVoid wrote: I have a few suggestion for some ground rules next time we do some inhouses. 1) Don't be that guy who locks into games always. If you've played three in a row and there's people who haven't had a turn, give a space to them. 2) Don't be that guy who instalocks captain. I would almost suggest everyone should be allowed a captain position at least once per inhouse. Rotate out captain position, else we end up with the same people doing it over and over and we end up with some issues where people who aren't very good drafters or communicators lead to problems. 3) Keep the flaming out of Discord. There's a time for some banter and jokes, and there's telling someone to "Go kill yourself" without a hint of friendliness. If you have problems, PM them or ask a TL staff member. 4) Remember, it's for fun, but if you're the only one having fun there's a problem. If your drafts aren't communicated well or done without consulting your team members what they want, you're going to end up with a Shrink problem. Please, please please ask your teammates what they want. This is a good write-up and probably should be an unofficial set of rules for right now. If there are real issues then get in touch with a mod (or in the future, one of the lobby leaders). Going off on people in discord doesn't solve anything. At the end of the day these are supposed to be stupid and fun. I don't really want to have to do a whole list of 'this is how you will act when you play TLIH' but if that's what it takes then I guess I will :/ | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On April 04 2016 00:48 HwangjaeTerran wrote: pleasa mods make drama disappear like I disappeared from Veles last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlvN5VoyEY Did you keep turning around that first tree? | ||
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phantomlancer23
730 Posts
Btw who is the guy in bluemoons first minute video who said the solution is to keep flaming him until he stops plays? Is he hacker or shiaopi? There are solutions if you got a brain.Firebolt banned tube and BOX was leaving when they took his draft after 2 rehost nobody took it again. | ||
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Shrinkzxo
Dotoland672 Posts
It is a shame that some people can't express their opinions in a well-mannered way. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I apologize if my flame was over the top, I was pretty frustrated after the weird carry tree ent game. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On April 04 2016 02:34 BluemoonSC wrote: Did you keep turning around that first tree? Yes, because nothing confuses Americans like a roundabout | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On April 04 2016 02:52 phantomlancer23 wrote: We dont need new rules.The drafts ,the heroes,the tryhards all these are excusses for people to flame.Players like alur rocketbear ,firebolt ,xyberia a lot of times played with drafts by lower skilled players and they didnt make a scene. Yeah, that's a joke and there is plenty of evidence in the thread that shows how the higher skilled players have felt about playing with low level guys that don't listen to anyone about what to do. Nobody has ever said 'players must be this good to play here' but what has always been asked is that people listen and communicate to each other. If that isn't happening on its own then clearly we need to start enforcing ways of making that happen. Flaming has always been unacceptable, and we have punished people in the past for it (just as we will in the future if needed), but shit goes both ways and if a person is generally being uncooperative and doing their own thing, then maybe this isn't a good place for them. For the record I do not believe that anyone playing in these right now falls under that category. This situation has been poorly handled to say the least. To pretend this situation is on any one person is an outright lie. Everybody who was involved is at fault here IMO and I would hope that we can all take a little bit from this idiocy and move along. If we can't and these issues come up in the future, then we'll just have to see what to do from there. For now I would recommend that everyone just leave it in the past. | ||
TheEmulator
28090 Posts
On April 04 2016 02:52 phantomlancer23 wrote: We dont need new rules.The drafts ,the heroes,the tryhards all these are excusses for people to flame.Players like alur rocketbear ,firebolt ,xyberia a lot of times played with drafts by lower skilled players and they didnt make a scene.You cant agree with every games picks.Who are these 2-3kers with such demands? Btw who is the guy in bluemoons first minute video who said the solution is to keep flaming him until he stops plays? Is he hacker or shiaopi? There are solutions if you got a brain.Firebolt banned tube and BOX was leaving when they took his draft after 2 rehost nobody took it again. No offense, but you seem to be remembering a lot of things incorrectly, because Rocketbear cried about bad players more than anyone. Like he openly flamed and quit TLIH because of frustration in the same manner as Stancel just did  And while Alurr didn't flame or complain directly, he definitely quit because of the low level players. People used to dodge teammates and arrange drafts way more back in the day as well. | ||
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phantomlancer23
730 Posts
Also comparing rocketbears alurs xyberias attitude with tunas shiaopis and hackers is insulting for the firsts. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
I played with Shrink drafting and specifically asked him simply to draft a playable line-up. He did, we played well, we won. It's not impossible. Other drafts of his were not great, I understand, but I did not endlessly flame him. I picked drafter in a different game because I enjoy it, I got flamed for my draft despite asking my teammates for feedback, and we still crushed the game despite it and had a load of fun doing so. The next time I asked if anyone else wanted to draft and lo and behold, someone did. No controversy over not being drafter. I agree with the rules suggested. I did not enjoy being flamed for my drafting, and I certainly don't enjoy listening to someone else being flamed continuously. This has simply gone too far. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On April 04 2016 02:52 phantomlancer23 wrote: Btw who is the guy in bluemoons first minute video who said the solution is to keep flaming him until he stops plays? Is he hacker or shiaopi? thats neither me nor hacker if you are referring to the jugg game that was linked, but whatever | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
On April 04 2016 03:43 TheEmulator wrote: No offense, but you seem to be remembering a lot of things incorrectly, because Rocketbear cried about bad players more than anyone. Like he openly flamed and quit TLIH because of frustration in the same manner as Stancel just did tfw your inactive and still gets dragged into drama Anyway Imma defend myself on this one because I think you remember it wrong. Or well, at least here's how I remember it. The reason I quit TLIH was because it was like this every game: So the shuffle balanced me with lower MMR players, which is fine >UNLESS< the enemy team just sits and shuts me down the entire game. I played with a whole lot of plebs on my team in pubs, even had a plebstack. I don't mind playing with lower MMR players, it's just when the other team just spends the entire game trying to kill me it's get boring because I get no help in return. People didn't specifically target me in pubs, like people target Dendi when he plays pubs. Yeah I got triggered by this a few times which made me flame players. If anyone felt insulted I apologize.. But mostly, when I did flame I flamed the way people played against me tbh. I didn't enjoy playing so I quit tlihs. If I had a lot more fun playing pubs why should I keep playing tlihs? That's how I remember it and I'm pretty sure some players will remember what I just said On April 04 2016 04:51 Firebolt145 wrote: What is happening a lot of ppl are triggered | ||
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TheEmulator
28090 Posts
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
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Shrinkzxo
Dotoland672 Posts
On April 04 2016 03:13 Plansix wrote: Shrink, people expressed their opinion last time around when you drafted meepo into one of the worst line ups ever, and then proceeded to buy shit items on meepo. I wasn't even there and I heard about it, that is how strongly the opinions were expressed. People got more aggressive because you didn't seem to give a fuck and just drafted other weird line ups. I apologize if my flame was over the top, I was pretty frustrated after the weird carry tree ent game. I don't mind as long as it's not personal. As for communication, I did forget to turn chat on. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
On April 04 2016 05:06 TheEmulator wrote: That's an overreaction if I ever saw one... idk kev On April 04 2016 05:09 ChunderBoy wrote: anyone else remember the good old 2012-2013 rocketbear storm picks the old storm spirit skin  | ||
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