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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 05 2017 10:31 GMT
#6861
Stats today.

Just got back from Russia, so things are a bit hectic.
I'm also going to Berlin in the coming months, so a lot of things in limbo.

Going to try and do a full update throughout the week when I can fit it in.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-06 10:10:49
February 06 2017 09:36 GMT
#6862
After 15 days (January 21 to February 5), we have risen from 192,290,926 to 196,149,104 combined subscriptions

A difference of 3,858,178
Average Subscribers per Guide is 1,290,454.63
Growth Percentage is 2.01%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Oracle (Core) (385,770)
  2. Naga Siren (Support) (345,932)
  3. Warlock (Core) (329,704)
  4. Underlord (Support) (227,377)
  5. Shadow Shaman (Core) (210,268)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Sven
  2. Phantom Assassin
  3. Juggernaut (previously rank 4)
  4. Lifestealer (Jungle)
  5. Faceless Void


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Assassin (2,367,699 -> 2,434,760)
  • Luna (2,006,551 -> 2,062,880)
  • Shadow Fiend (1,972,251 -> 2,015,412)
  • Drow Ranger (1,952,882 -> 2,000,563)
  • Sniper (Core/Mid) (1,154,427 -> 1,205,208)
  • Silencer (Core) (978,733 -> 1,018,941)
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (977,323 -> 1,000,078)
  • Lone Druid (Core) (856,126 -> 892,822)
  • Underlord (Offlane) (439,735 -> 515,437)
  • Invoker (Quas/Wex) (454,814 -> 494,770)


Newly Released Guides:




    Patreon.com/Torte, this project continues to be made possible by the contributions of:

    Alfred Vogl, Pearson Mewbourne, James, Oliver Varah, Ben Lewis-Evans, Michael Carmody, Leonardo Lambertini, Scott MacDonald, Sutas, Nicholas Chlumecky, Dice, Bartlomiej Jan Pasek, Benjamin Richter, RandomMaster, dsrtfx_xx, Christopher 'HYphY' Horrall, Michael Kaeser, John Naisbitt, Noah, Lowe Schmidt, Tony Heugh, James Merrill, Guitaringegg, JimmaDaRustla, Graham Bullard, Daxdiv, Mikey Kaminski, Ryan Goss, Nate Hubbard, The WLD Crew, Benjamin Miller, Kistaro Windrider, Daniel Thackray, Jose Cacho, Matthew Nami, tale, LordDay, Cornelius Pfohl, Julian Koniger, Benedikt Kusemann, Rafael Silva, Esko Harhakoski, Christopher Dickson, S J, Gabriel F. Brondino, Tyler Reid, Hursha, Aaron Bell, Jason Davis, Cooper Johnson, Samuel Enocsson, slashershot, Igor Dolgiy, Ramona Brown, Duncan, Alishams Hassam, Leon Traill, Josh Laseter, Dylan Lauritsen, Gerald Callow, Steve, Daniel Cavanagh, Genc Musliu, Moe Foster

    Portions of their pledges will go to long-time community members, dedicated to providing feedback to keep this collection of hero builds accurate to current standards of play.
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2017-02-06 09:49:49
    February 06 2017 09:45 GMT
    #6863
      This latest update and hero builds changes was made possible thanks to the feedback and knowledge of the following community members. Sincere thank you to: Velzi, Buckyman, bdonballer, Logo

    • 19.54% of last month's unique players [13,697,176] are subscribed to the our highest subscribed guide: Sven Guide

    • 4,170,737 in new subscriptions is the highest growth ever achieved in a 15-day period since the project's inception


    • Since December 2016, the Nature's Prophet guide has been bugged and removed in-game, hindering growth.

    • Since the release of 7.00, both newly-released Monkey Kings have not been found in-game, hindering growth


    • Shadow Fiend (2,015,412)
    • Drow Ranger (2,000,563) recently hit the 2 million mark

    • Silencer (Core) (1,018,941)
    • Lone Druid (Jungle) (1,000,078) recently hit the 1 million mark

    • Three guides are currently swimming towards the 1 million mark:

    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Buckyman
    Profile Joined May 2014
    1364 Posts
    February 08 2017 04:13 GMT
    #6864
    Weaver (core) has the slack for an extra starting item - either circlet towards Aquila/wand or extra regen.
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    February 08 2017 06:50 GMT
    #6865
    On February 08 2017 13:13 Buckyman wrote:
    Weaver (core) has the slack for an extra starting item - either circlet towards Aquila/wand or extra regen.


    Ok, let me fix.
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    February 08 2017 20:03 GMT
    #6866
    Servers down
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Corgi
    Profile Joined December 2014
    United States408 Posts
    February 09 2017 08:22 GMT
    #6867
    Torte, what's the reasoning behind Helm of the Dominator on Sven? It doesn't build into your extended items, particularly the Satanic. Did you include this item because your offlane Sven guide focuses on a support role?
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    February 09 2017 09:09 GMT
    #6868
    On February 09 2017 17:22 Corgi wrote:
    Torte, what's the reasoning behind Helm of the Dominator on Sven? It doesn't build into your extended items, particularly the Satanic. Did you include this item because your offlane Sven guide focuses on a support role?


    It was the standard build and helps stack creeps.
    It's intermediary and hastens your farm and sustains your jungling.
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2017-02-09 09:23:23
    February 09 2017 09:22 GMT
    #6869
    Servers are down, can't update to 7.02...

    Going to stop giving a shit at 200 million and February. It's not worth the stress on top of my job. I don't want to be a spokesperson for everything wrong or fixed in the Hero Builds.
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2017-02-12 09:47:03
    February 09 2017 09:38 GMT
    #6870
    Applied Changes: February 9 (3PM CEST)

    Actual Schedule (CET)
    Day 1
    - 10:00AM-11:00AM: Reading Patch Notes
    - 11:00AM-1:00PM: Applied Changes
    - 1:00-1:30PM Add feedback from Buckyman (prev. page + current page)
    - 1:30-3:00PMReview feedback from Prezombie (/r/HeroBuilds)

    Total Elapsed Time: 4 Hours



    Total changes made: 37 approx. changes
    27 Guides applied
    125 Guides remain unchanged


    Alchemist (Core/Mid)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Damage), 15 (+6 All Stats), 20 (+300 Health), 25 (30% Lifesteal)

    Alchemist (Core/Safe)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Damage), 15 (+80 Unstable Concoction Damage), 20 (+300 Health), 25 (30% Lifesteal)

    Broodmother
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+60 Spawn Spiderling Damage), 15 (20% Cooldown Reduction), 20 (+50 Attack Speed), 25 (+200 Spiders Health)

    Disruptor
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+60 Gold/Min), 15 (-30s Respawn Time), 20 (+10% Spell Amplification), 25 (+4 Thunder Strike Hits)

    Doom (Jungle)
    Doom (Offlane)
    New Talent Tree: 11 (+80 Devour Bonus Gold), 15 (+15 Scorched Earth Damage/Heal), 20 (+35 Doom DPS), 25 (Devour can Target Ancients)

    Drow Ranger
    Added Circlet of Nobility to Starting Items
    Added Helm of the Dominator to Core Items
    Moved Manta Style to Extension Items
    Removed Slippers of Agility

    Enchantress
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 All Stats), 15 (+50 Damage), 20 (+12% Magic Resistance), 25 (+12 Nature's Attendants Wisps)

    Lich
    New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R W Q Q T W R W W T E R T T (1. Frost Blast 2. Ice Armor 3. Sacrifice)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+15 Movement Speed), 15 (-3s Frost Blast Cooldown), 20 (+120 Gold/Min), 25 (Attacks Apply 30% MS and AS slow)
    Added Hurricane Pike to Extension Items
    Removed Force Staff

    Lina (Support)
    New Talent Tree: 11 (+60 Light Strike Array Damage), 15 (+125 Cast Range), 20 (+6% Spell Amplification), 25 (-4s Dragon Slave Cooldown)

    Lina (Core)
    New Talent Tree: 11 (+60 Light Strike Array Damage), 15 (+40 Damage), 20 (+6% Spell Amplification), 25 (+1 Fiery Soul Max Stacks)
    Added Bloodthorn to Extension Items
    Moved Hurricane Pike to Situational Items

    Magnus
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+15% Spell Amplification), 15 (+90 Gold/Min), 20 (15% Empower Damage/Cleave), 25 (-4s Shockwave Cooldown)

    Morphling
    Removed Quelling Blade

    Naga Siren (Core)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+125 Health), 15 (+30 Attack Speed), 20 (+15 Agility), 25 (+1 Mirror Image Illusion)

    Nyx Assassin (Support)
    Nyx Assassin (Offlane)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+5% Spell Amplification), 15 (+50 Impale Damage), 20 (+120 Gold/Min), 25 (200% Spiked Carapace Damage)

    Phoenix (Offlane)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (-20s Respawn Time), 15 (+50 Fire Spirits DPS), 20 (+8% Spell Amplification), 25(+2 Supernova Hit Count)

    Puck
    New Talent Tree: 15 (+8 Intelligence), 16 (+40 Damage), 20 (-3s Waning Rift Cooldown), 25 (75% Illusory Orb Distance/Speed)

    Queen of Pain
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Damage), 15 (12% Cooldown Reduction), 20 (+100 Attack Range), 25 (-3s Shadow Strike Cooldown)
    Removed Blade Mail

    Sand King
    New Talent Tree: 11 (10% Magic Resistance), 15 (+50 Sand Storm DPS), 20 (+120 Gold/Min), 25 (+4 Epicenter Pulses)

    Troll Warlord (Core)
    Added Ring of Protection to Starting Items
    Moved Sange & Yasha to Core Items
    Moved Manta Style to Situational Items

    Underlord (Offlane)
    New Skill Build: E Q Q E Q R Q E E E T R W E T E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)

    Warlock (Core)
    Warlock (Support)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+15% XP Gain), 15 (+125 Cast Range), 20 (-4s Shadow Word Cooldown), 25 (Magic Immunity for Chaotic Offering Golems)

    Weaver (Core)
    Added Healing Salve to Starting Items

    Windranger (Offlane)
    Windranger (Core)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+4 Mana Regen), 15 (+40 Movement Speed), 20 (+15% Spell Amplification), 25 (+100 Attack Range)

    Winter Wyvern
    Removed Magic Wand
    Removed Urn of Shadows
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    bdonballer
    Profile Joined October 2014
    United States408 Posts
    February 09 2017 11:23 GMT
    #6871
    You can add one sentry to a lot of the supports now since they can be bought individually.
    I carry hard!
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    February 09 2017 12:05 GMT
    #6872
    On February 09 2017 20:23 bdonballer wrote:
    You can add one sentry to a lot of the supports now since they can be bought individually.


    Do you have an example?

    Broodmother, Riki, Bounty Hunter are the main three I can think of.
    The rest is a question of starting items budget.
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Velzi
    Profile Joined June 2012
    Finland659 Posts
    February 09 2017 12:59 GMT
    #6873
    Pretty much every support who has unspent gold or can go to lane without one or two branches.

    Lion could start with Courier 2xObs 1xsentry Tango Salve Branch (+sentry -branch)

    Dazzle with Courier 2xObs 1x Sentry Tango 2xClarity Branch (+sentry -branch)

    CM read dazzle

    Warlock add Sentry

    I think u get the idea, when the set of sentries cost 200g, it was very hard to afford Courier 2xObs Regen AND Sentries, but now u can squeeze in one sentry to deward block / offlane ward / mid ward without sacrificing too much regen or stats to do that.

    Ofc earlier u could go Courier 2xObs Sentry(200g) Tango Clarity which is okey for some heroes, but then if u pool 2 tangoes to mid too u have literally no regen for urself remaining. With only 1 sentry u can get either another set of tangoes or salve to compensate.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    February 09 2017 13:23 GMT
    #6874
    I'd rather just leave it open. Their next item could be a sentry ward (sub 1:00) if the situation calls for it (blocked camp, etc.)
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Buckyman
    Profile Joined May 2014
    1364 Posts
    Last Edited: 2017-02-09 16:09:18
    February 09 2017 16:08 GMT
    #6875
    Sorry I'm late with this.

    After trying it both ways, I think I prefer starting with a salve to a circlet on Weaver. Partly because I don't usually buy a stick until after flying courier and partly because I like trading damage as a Weaver with a ring.
    Velzi
    Profile Joined June 2012
    Finland659 Posts
    February 09 2017 16:21 GMT
    #6876
    On February 09 2017 22:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
    I'd rather just leave it open. Their next item could be a sentry ward (sub 1:00) if the situation calls for it (blocked camp, etc.)

    I guess its less common in lower level games to scout enemy warding or blocking camp or even having wards with offlaner so theres a point not going for level1 sentries. Fair enough.

    But like u said heroes like BH Brood etc. Who want to have sentries to deward enemy sentries for safer laning and so on.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
    Birdie
    Profile Blog Joined August 2007
    New Zealand4438 Posts
    February 12 2017 00:05 GMT
    #6877
    On February 10 2017 01:08 Buckyman wrote:
    Sorry I'm late with this.

    After trying it both ways, I think I prefer starting with a salve to a circlet on Weaver. Partly because I don't usually buy a stick until after flying courier and partly because I like trading damage as a Weaver with a ring.

    I really like 3 sticks, circlet, salve, tangos. One set of tangos is definitely not enough for most lanes, and having 3 sticks is not only useful early but for your last tango you can eat the bobross tree, and optionally get an early wand depending on lane. But the stats are really useful, kinda like on morphling.
    Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    February 12 2017 09:38 GMT
    #6878
    Ok, I will add salve.
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Buckyman
    Profile Joined May 2014
    1364 Posts
    February 13 2017 00:13 GMT
    #6879
    Vengeful Spirit's level 20 talent choice appears defective; it says to take the other level 15 talent.
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2017-02-14 12:59:11
    February 14 2017 12:55 GMT
    #6880
    Fixed, thanks. Hero Build Talents are wonky. Hero Build Web Server still has major issues (there's a bug that changes your skill build by moving everything over by 1 to the left) and my Nature's Prophet Build is still declassified again.

    If you can't tell, I'm taking an extremely more laid back work process for the guides. Less regular updates, less minor adjustment between patches.

    Reason is:
    1. I am starting a company in Berlin
    and 2. Because the competition is officially dead by all means and definitions.

    From 7.00 to 7.02, you could create your own personal cloud build and it still wouldn't show. Only community-voted ones. The new system just highlights that almost no guide for every individual hero is not even updated to 7.00 except for this project's.

    with 7.02, the builds are in mostly working order (Monkey King just got fixed), but I think that the system was so far in neglect that most people give up beyond making 'scratch' versions.
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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