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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 18:08:43
January 06 2014 17:59 GMT
#1
I am upgrading my build, swapping out older AMD processor, mobo, vid card and RAM and installing i5 4670k, ASRock H87 Pro4, GTX 770, 8 GB DDR3 1600. Keeping 3 yr old 650w corsair PSU that was working fine with old build.

The problem I am having is that the system will seemingly turn on for 30 secs, all fans running, disc drive starting up (and can be ejected), but there's no video output and the system shuts off after 30 secs. It then attempts to restart after a couple seconds, but shuts off right away. Then after a couple seconds, it starts up for 30 seconds again and then repeats.

So, I will describe what I have done so far. This story belongs in the computer build failblog hall of fame.

So as I get this install underway, I am drinking IPAs on an empty stomach and definitely get to the point of drunkenness. Also I am trying to maintain 3 text conversations, 2 with girls who are potentials, one with a girl who is going off the deep end over me not wanting to commit, culminating with the over-dramatic text "goodbye". As a cherry on top, she is 6 days late on her period, though I am somewhat less worried since she has a negative preg test.

So I basically get frustrated and do minimal manual reading. And I get pissed when doesn't go perfectly smoothly and quickly. I get to the CPU and heatsink install, and being mechanically challenged, have trouble getting one of the legs of the heatsink to seat in the mobo. I start jamming things around, moving it in and out, mind you the thermal paste has made contact by now and smears around, probably unevenly and there might be tiny bubbles in there. In my pissed off state, I try using the end of a pair of scissors to jam the last leg into the mobo. The scissors slip and gouge across the motherboard. I proceed to continue this endeavor, causing more gouges across an intricate circuit board with a sharp scissor edge. I end up putting the rest of the computer together with the 4th leg not seated, not even sure of the heatsink was in full contact with the CPU but it may actually have been.

So I get the above problem when I try to boot. I then take the comp back to the table and figure out the heatsink thing, and get it seated again. Not before some more rubbing around of the thermal paste though. Try to boot again, same problem. I've tried the following troubleshooting steps:

- Rearranged RAM in diff slots, tried one stick of RAM.
- Disconnected everything (including RAM) except CPU.
- Disconnected different parts one at a time.
- Connected monitor to mobo rather than vid card

These result in the same problem. Made sure all cables are seated, mobo standoffs used.

Tonight I will try using different RAM. I will also clean off the thermal paste and apply arctic silver. If that doesn't work I will assume the motherboard is done for. Any holes in my reasoning?

Thanks in advance.
xevis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 23:58:13
January 06 2014 23:54 GMT
#2
I thoroughly enjoyed your post, rather enjoyed the scissors part.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 07 2014 00:16 GMT
#3
5/5

Sounds like a heating problem in regular cases lol
You wrote you're using a 3y old psu, maybe it has set up some dust and isn't able to perform correctly.
In some cases the cpu fan is placed up side down, which would cause the same problem you face.
Motherboards are more relaiable than one might think. Anyway, good luck with that
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 07 2014 03:53 GMT
#4
The best part is that you have an i5 4670K on an H87 motherboard. LOL
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 07 2014 05:21 GMT
#5
According to the impatient ASRock tech support guy, I should send my mobo back. Of course I didn't mention the gouges. Here's to hoping they don't notice them LOL.
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 07 2014 10:01 GMT
#6
On January 07 2014 14:21 Doodsmack wrote:
According to the impatient ASRock tech support guy, I should send my mobo back. Of course I didn't mention the gouges. Here's to hoping they don't notice them LOL.


Those pesky stock CPU coolers are insanely hard to put in because you have to turn both knobs at the same time or something. Took me around 5-10 minutes whenever I dismantled it to blow out dust and I wasn't even drunk...
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 08 2014 00:43 GMT
#7
Had to pay $30 to ship the mobo back. Had to decide whether to eat that shipping cost, and risk getting the RMA denied, or just pay $90 for a new mobo. Kind of regretting deciding to pay the $30 lol. Plus I'll have to wait for fuckin ever.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 08 2014 07:28 GMT
#8
hahaha oh my god! lord have mercy on your soul.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
MutantGenepool
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia115 Posts
January 08 2014 08:29 GMT
#9
You probably need to do a clean Windows install.
Also, check the memory sticks that you have are compatible to the MB.
EGRevival (Zerg) has more marines than Polt. ROOTNathanias
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 09 2014 14:24 GMT
#10
On January 08 2014 17:29 MutantGenepool wrote:
You probably need to do a clean Windows install.
Also, check the memory sticks that you have are compatible to the MB.


There actually wasn't even video output and it would shut off so I wasn't getting into windows. Wish I had had a case speaker, maybe that would have helped. Would have to think the memory is compatible since it's DDR3 1600.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 10 2014 19:29 GMT
#11
Is it just me or were my pins bent? I'm 99% sure I inserted the CPU correctly. The grooves and arrows lined up. When you secure the CPU with the mobo's clamp it presses down damn hard...but I did all this right.

[image loading]
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
January 10 2014 19:37 GMT
#12
On January 07 2014 12:53 wptlzkwjd wrote:
The best part is that you have an i5 4670K on an H87 motherboard. LOL

^ I'd look into getting a Z87 replacement (so you can OC the CPU) since you're already returning the MOBO
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 20:29:10
January 10 2014 20:28 GMT
#13
On January 11 2014 04:37 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 12:53 wptlzkwjd wrote:
The best part is that you have an i5 4670K on an H87 motherboard. LOL

^ I'd look into getting a Z87 replacement (so you can OC the CPU) since you're already returning the MOBO


Well...judging from his computer installation skillz, it'd be best if he switched to a 4670 locked xD.

And no your pins look fine to me. There is supposed to be a lot of pressure clamping the CPU down.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 11 2014 05:41 GMT
#14
On January 11 2014 05:28 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 04:37 y0su wrote:
On January 07 2014 12:53 wptlzkwjd wrote:
The best part is that you have an i5 4670K on an H87 motherboard. LOL

^ I'd look into getting a Z87 replacement (so you can OC the CPU) since you're already returning the MOBO


Well...judging from his computer installation skillz, it'd be best if he switched to a 4670 locked xD.

And no your pins look fine to me. There is supposed to be a lot of pressure clamping the CPU down.


If my pins are fine then the top half is meant to be very slanted. The ASRock tech support guy told me all the pins are supposed to be going in the same direction.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
January 11 2014 12:57 GMT
#15
Your photo looks fine, nothing bent. The ASRock support guy was right, it's just there's two halves that are opposite. If you type "lga1150 bent pins" into a web search and look at image results, you'll get examples of how it looks if someone grabbed into the socket or let the CPU fall into it, etc.

You can also look at the pads on the bottom of the CPU. There's usually a spot on each pad where the pin in the socket was touching and rubbing/scratching. That's a sign that everything is alright.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 11 2014 21:05 GMT
#16
Can you take some pics of the "gouging" you did with the scissors or have you sent it back already?
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 12 2014 17:41 GMT
#17
On January 12 2014 06:05 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Can you take some pics of the "gouging" you did with the scissors or have you sent it back already?


I sent it back. They were not big gouges actually. They were thin, but I'm pretty sure I could see severed copper. I don't know if 2 or 3 severed copper lines can ruin the whole thing but yeah.
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