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On August 12 2013 23:06 HomeWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 03:00 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Hm, still no solution for my problem
fps ingame above 100 in your average 15 min game, the obs screen shows constant 60fps without losing frames but when i watch the vod on twitch it just looks like shit and pretty ...well dont know how to discribe it ...maybe jittery?? check the obs log from that time, look for late or lagged frames, something like this "Total frames rendered: 7013, number of late frames: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)"
i dont ve any malfunction in the stream, nothing shows as off, the thing from r1ch says no frame drops, cpu usage is @45-72% (75% only spiking to it and goes back, average is 61%)
i ve tested some more but the last couple of days i cant stream cuz i ve to upload some 221gb tentacle hentai ....or something along those lines :D most settings dont do much thou, not for worse or better, only thing that is noticable by me is that cbr active nets better results with the stream (but still looks like shit) ^_^
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cpu usage is @45-72% (75% only spiking to it and goes back, average is 61%) You need to look at usage per core, absolute usage (as a % of all cores) is a pretty terrible stat
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You can ignore that, it's a bug with twitch. Everything is fine.
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Are you sure its a bug? Same happened to me R1ch.
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Yes, it's impossible to stream with anything except H264 and MP3/AAC with OBS. Twitch's check is very new so it's not surprising it has a few glitches.
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On August 15 2013 02:21 Cyro wrote: You need to look at usage per core, absolute usage (as a % of all cores) is a pretty terrible stat
one is spiking at 90% others at 70% and lower
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Hey guys! I've been using OBS for a few months now and I've been very satisfied. However, I've came upon something that really bugs me and I can't seem to find anyway to make it any better. I was curious if anyone might have any insight on this issue.
What I'm aiming for is a crystal crisp clean stream. It seems that no matter what I do, my stream doesn't look crisp at all like the ones I see on Twitch.
CPU: i5-3570K @ 4.5Ghz
GPU: Sapphire Vapor-X 7970Ghz
RAM: 8GB @ 1866mhz
PSU: 850w
Upload testmy results: 4.5mbs
Essentially, My bitrate is set to 3000-3500 and with CBR on. Streaming at 720P@60FPS and everything else is pretty much default.
Everything i do, i cannot get it to look even HALF as good as other streamers who stream at the same resolution and bitrate. Even with my veryfast preset, i'll change it to faster or fast and it still won't look as crisp as theirs. I'm kinda lost here.
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What's this about twitch forcing you to use CBR or refusing to let you stream? 
I thought they were still having massive server capacity issues? With most people using quality settings and VBR the way things are, average bitrate would probably be like twice as high with cbr, no?
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The bitrate will be higher, but it will also be more predictable. A lot of Twitch's load balancing problems stem from the fact a stream can spike from eg 200kbps at menus to 3mbps in game unpredictably.
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I heard that it wasn't really a problem unless there was a stream with thousands of viewers though, and i thought it was standard to use CBR on, etc, event streams, for a while because of that. It's a big step for the only real streaming service to remove VBR as an option, just seems a little extreme to me
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Hey guys,
Quick question. If I have an 'out of game' screen (An image with alias on it for example) and I want it so that it still shows the StarCraft game window when it switches to the out of game scene. Can I do this using Game Capture or am I using it wrong?
I was testing it and the game window shows when I am tabbed in and manually select the out of game scene, but as soon as I tab out of SC2, the window on the out of game overlay disappears. It then reappears when I tab back in.
I don't want to set SC2 to Windowed Fullscreen as I cannot adjust the gamma then and the game is too dark by default on my monitor.
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The game doesn't update when you're in fullscreen but tabbed out, there's nothing to capture, computers are annoyingly efficient sometimes. You can't adjust gamma/brightness on your monitor?
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Yes but StarCraft is darker than everything else. I have the settings of my monitor the way I want it and SC2 is the only game that I've had to adjust the gamma with because everything is too dark.
EDIT: How do I get OBS to keep a strict CBR? Tried to set it to 1450 bitrate and it's exceeding it. Got 1909 dropped frames in a 52 minute stream. I was streaming at 720p 48FPS with 1450 bitrate and CBR ticked. Using veryfast setting. Bitrate kept spiking up to 1800.
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Okay, this is gonna be my last try to get this stream into not being shit. streamed some days ago and this is the log, maybe there is something that shows why it sucks, but i cant tell ^^;
link to the video:
http://www.twitch.tv/oetoriya/b/445774430
log from obs
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ah and pingtest. 0 packetloss, 32 ping and 3 jitter (that is bad i guess?)
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No, it's good
Your stream looks like i would expect it to from 3.5k bitrate and you have good consistent FPS now, whats the problem?
Stuff gets a bit choppy around max supply, doesn't take a rocket scientist to say that about sc2 engine 
Performance sucks, oc can get you maybe 50% higher
If you want higher FPS ingame (which = stream looks smoother too, if you are below or close to your stream fps) you can play with disabling physics/reflections and lowering effects (i dont see much reason to go below medium effects), they can massively change performance, as much as double in some cases but also give almost no extra performance in others
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cant oc it anymore than it already is, dont know why the log doesnt show my oc and just stock clock, is it normal? its 4.4ghz currently and i got a really bad chip and already stretching it with those clocks. for me the stream looks overall not as good as some other peoples streams, would like for my stream to look as cool as the dh stream :D but thats probably not possible with my rig / internet thou ~~
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Either didn't see 4.4ghz or forgot you had it
What do you mean by doesn't look as good? FPS? Quality in motion? I mean there's not much to adjust. If you're fullscreening, 1280x720 looks terrible compared to 1920x1080, because there's 2.25x as many pixels in the latter, but you need a ton more data to match the quality of a lower resolution stream in motion scenes with those
Can you put up ingame FPS display while streaming also?
It looked really stuttery before, but not now
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So with twitch new requirements we need to enable CBR and CFR?
Even though I have keyframe set to 2 twitch is still telling me my keyframes are like 2.5
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