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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
June 20 2012 12:55 GMT
#81
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...
doomed
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia420 Posts
June 20 2012 13:02 GMT
#82
On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...


That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free?

Id like some numbers/ images or vods
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
June 20 2012 13:45 GMT
#83
On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...


That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free?

Id like some numbers/ images or vods


does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming


I dont know of anything more efficient than x264, and since this program aparantly uses LESS cpu, logic says quality at the same bitrate will be worse
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 14:12:41
June 20 2012 14:12 GMT
#84
On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...


That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free?

Id like some numbers/ images or vods

Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 14:54:00
June 20 2012 14:52 GMT
#85
On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:
On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...


That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free?

Id like some numbers/ images or vods

Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES.



I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong.

There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
June 20 2012 15:07 GMT
#86
On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:
On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:
On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...


That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free?

Id like some numbers/ images or vods

Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES.



I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong.

There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources

In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
June 20 2012 15:27 GMT
#87
On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:
On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:
On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:
On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...


That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free?

Id like some numbers/ images or vods

Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES.



I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong.

There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources

In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that.


I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
June 20 2012 16:14 GMT
#88
I've just switched over to FFsplit. It's working awesome with better FPS boost and Windows response ;D. Didn't take that long to setup too ;D
I live by the LoL
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
June 20 2012 16:23 GMT
#89
What's the fps drop in-game compared to using xsplit ?
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
akskiller
Profile Joined March 2012
8 Posts
June 20 2012 17:28 GMT
#90
I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
June 20 2012 18:09 GMT
#91
On June 21 2012 01:23 nucLeaRTV wrote:
What's the fps drop in-game compared to using xsplit ?


Different for everyone, dependant of individual specs, set up, hundreds of possible variables
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
akskiller
Profile Joined March 2012
8 Posts
June 20 2012 18:12 GMT
#92
Fixed the audio but having a hard time getting video now. Either black screen or lag all over the place.
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
June 20 2012 18:22 GMT
#93
Okay, I've finished testing and it's quite annoying. I get different FPS results all the time, I get high FPS at start (~150), while dropping to just 30-40 after 10 minutes. The most annoying part is that my stream crashes all the time and it's annoying as hell.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 19:00:45
June 20 2012 18:54 GMT
#94
On June 21 2012 03:22 nucLeaRTV wrote:
Okay, I've finished testing and it's quite annoying. I get different FPS results all the time, I get high FPS at start (~150), while dropping to just 30-40 after 10 minutes. The most annoying part is that my stream crashes all the time and it's annoying as hell.

are you updated to the lastest patch? have you tried a fresh ffsplit extract and then update? And if your getting the error "FFmpeg has stopped working" they have a thread on their website about it.

After deleting my old ffsplit folder and getting a new one and updating I had no problems with crashing.


On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:
I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong.


There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources



On ultrafast preset there is more pixelation using same bitrate for ffsplit. But the difference in machine use is considerable.
My review was on the front page of the website and I mentioned that it had more pixelation @ 1080p on the same preset but used like 40% less CPU, Ive done more testing since then and the pixelation isn't all that bad once i was streaming 4000kbps which was only a 1000kbps bump up, which for my internet is nothing. But for others if they want to sacrifice performance for quality then its obviously better, and another plus is the audio isn't shitty like free xsplit version.
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
June 20 2012 21:01 GMT
#95
Ok, I've managed to install it and I've got to say I'm impressed. I get a little more FPS than xsplit and besides that I can use Aero (which weirdly enough increases the fps as well) and it's less laggy than xsplit. I'm using their built-in recorder, not dxtroy or VME or whatever.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 21:57:59
June 20 2012 21:12 GMT
#96
On June 21 2012 00:27 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:
On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:
On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:
On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:
On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...


That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free?

Id like some numbers/ images or vods

Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES.



I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong.

There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources

In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that.


I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment


FFSplit uses x264 as well.

On June 21 2012 02:28 akskiller wrote:
I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low.


Check and make sure the stereo mix audio is not set too low in the Windows sound settings.

Little audio speaker right click -> Recording Devices -> Right click on Stereo Mix - Properties -> Levels
Might makes right.
TheZanthex
Profile Joined January 2012
United States144 Posts
June 20 2012 23:15 GMT
#97
What should i do if FFSplit Audio isn't showing in the audio options?

Also, whenever i begin streaming, i'm unable to watch myself and keep my dashboard open, it just shows up as black or my default offline screen. Can anyone help me out?

And lastly, my stream will often shut down by itself after 1-2 minutes of broadcasting.

If anyone could help me out i would be very, very much appreciated.
IdrA fan for life, man. <3
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
June 20 2012 23:26 GMT
#98
On June 21 2012 08:15 TheZanthex wrote:
What should i do if FFSplit Audio isn't showing in the audio options?

Also, whenever i begin streaming, i'm unable to watch myself and keep my dashboard open, it just shows up as black or my default offline screen. Can anyone help me out?

And lastly, my stream will often shut down by itself after 1-2 minutes of broadcasting.

If anyone could help me out i would be very, very much appreciated.


Do you have the latest version of Java x86, .NET 4.0, and the VC++ redist?

Make sure you're up to date on all those and then post your VHScrCap (if applicable) and FFSplit settings.
Might makes right.
Flameling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States413 Posts
June 20 2012 23:46 GMT
#99
On June 21 2012 08:15 TheZanthex wrote:
What should i do if FFSplit Audio isn't showing in the audio options?

Also, whenever i begin streaming, i'm unable to watch myself and keep my dashboard open, it just shows up as black or my default offline screen. Can anyone help me out?

And lastly, my stream will often shut down by itself after 1-2 minutes of broadcasting.

If anyone could help me out i would be very, very much appreciated.

If you have your bitrate set too high it could crash too.
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
June 21 2012 04:21 GMT
#100
On June 21 2012 08:46 Flameling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 08:15 TheZanthex wrote:
What should i do if FFSplit Audio isn't showing in the audio options?

Also, whenever i begin streaming, i'm unable to watch myself and keep my dashboard open, it just shows up as black or my default offline screen. Can anyone help me out?

And lastly, my stream will often shut down by itself after 1-2 minutes of broadcasting.

If anyone could help me out i would be very, very much appreciated.

If you have your bitrate set too high it could crash too.

Yes, I learned this myself that if the bitrate is set too high, sometimes your stream wont even start and when it does it will probably crash within 1-2 minutes
ok
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