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Okay so I have recently grown tired of xsplit, not just because of the audio but the amount of strain it puts on your cpu. Im here to show you how to use a new free alternative to xsplit called FFsplit. FFsplit is basically a free simplified version of xsplit (comparable to FMLE but no as complicated to use.
1. Go here and download FFsplit.
2. Run the ffsplit file and choose where you want to extract the file. If you have not already done so, download and install .net Framework 4.0
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Make sure that UAC is DISABLED before running FFsplit. All of FFsplit files require ADMIN Access and will not run correctly and give you errors while attempting to stream!
3. Run FFsplit
4. Under the Video Source drop down menu, Select FFsplit Overlay (Most stable imho but you may also use DxTory or other external apps)
5. Under the Audio Source drop down menu, Select your preffered audio source. I recommend choosing Default Playback Device but if you have other programs that you use for audio streaming, you are more than welcomed to use them.
6. Under the Microphone Source drop Down Menu, Select your preffered mic source. If you dont have a mic, then skip this step.
7. Set your Encoder settings the way that you would have under other streaming programs.
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Make Sure that your connection AND pc can handle the encoder settings that you select! I will not put in a default set of encoder settings simply because not everyone uses the same settings.
8. At the bottom of the UI for FFsplit you should see the words "Stream:" with a check box beside it. Check the box and input your rmtp server and stream key. (you can get your stream key by going here and clicking "Show Key"
Once you get your key, add that to the end of your RMTP server link. The " rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/ " link is your RMTP server if you are using Twitch. There are other more area specific servers that you can use but for this tutorial I am only using this server as it is universal (kinda). Once you add your key to the server it will look like this:
+ Show Spoiler +rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/[Your Key Here]
Once the key is added, it will look like this
rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/live_98h23yg012tfvuuh0y3u98uj9rhrh
9. Start Streaming and enjoy good free audio quality!!
It is recommended that you have at least a quad core i5/phenom II (generation doesn't matter as long as you know its limits). I use a Phenom II x6 1045T Oc'd to 3.4 GHz and it does just fine with 720p @45fps. You should be able to get away with a Core 2 Quad as long as it is above 3.2 GHz, otherwise you will suffer an fps loss ingame.
If you enjoy the program, dont be afraid to thank the people who created it. You can go here and send them questions and comments! You can also ask questions/thank them on twitter @FFsplit !
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Nice guide! Though, how is the audio quality on FFsplit audio?
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On June 17 2012 12:31 Flameling wrote:
Nice guide! Though, how is the audio quality on FFsplit audio?
its great! you can set it the way you want it. it goes up to 320 kbps stereo ^^ though im using 112 mono and its still shitting on my old xsplit stream.
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On June 17 2012 12:34 AeroEffect wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 12:31 Flameling wrote:
Nice guide! Though, how is the audio quality on FFsplit audio? its great! you can set it the way you want it. it goes up to 320 kbps stereo ^^ though im using 112 mono and its still shitting on my old xsplit stream.
oo, finally, a free alternative to xsplit with good audio quality. again, thanks for the guide :D
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On June 17 2012 12:47 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 12:34 AeroEffect wrote:On June 17 2012 12:31 Flameling wrote:
Nice guide! Though, how is the audio quality on FFsplit audio? its great! you can set it the way you want it. it goes up to 320 kbps stereo ^^ though im using 112 mono and its still shitting on my old xsplit stream. oo, finally, a free alternative to xsplit with good audio quality. again, thanks for the guide :D
np yo. glad to help
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it makes an annoying static noise whenever i start streaming. Also, it says my stream is offline. I was really hoping this would work because xsplit cause my computer to crash.
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On June 17 2012 14:44 MinimalistSC2 wrote:
it makes an annoying static noise whenever i start streaming. Also, it says my stream is offline. I was really hoping this would work because xsplit cause my computer to crash.
I think the problem is because you don't have stereo mix set as the default recording device on your computer. I had that problem at first too. Now i'm having the problem of getting a decent looking picture, as it's stuttering D:
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It won't let me install the filter.
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On June 17 2012 15:02 MinimalistSC2 wrote:
It won't let me install the filter.
dont need too. it will run without it
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You actually don't need VHScrCap as the FFSplit Overlay is screen capture program that is built into FFSplit. However, I don't think the Overlay method allows you to change your encoding resolution, so you're streaming at whatever your native resolution is.
If the filter will not install then try going to the FFSplit folder and running the InstallFilter.bat as an admin.
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If iv got a nice working FMLE set up are there any advantages of switching to FFSplit or is ease of use the main thing about it.
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On June 17 2012 15:46 WTFZerg wrote:
You actually don't need VHScrCap as the FFSplit Overlay is screen capture program that is built into FFSplit. However, I don't think the Overlay method allows you to change your encoding resolution, so you're streaming at whatever your native resolution is.
If the filter will not install then try going to the FFSplit folder and running the InstallFilter.bat as an admin.
negative. It will capture your desktop, but not stream the size of your desktop unless your settings have it to stream your native resolution.
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Hmm, was looking for a alternative to xsplit, will give it a try when i get back.
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On June 17 2012 16:44 Boblhead wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 15:46 WTFZerg wrote:
You actually don't need VHScrCap as the FFSplit Overlay is screen capture program that is built into FFSplit. However, I don't think the Overlay method allows you to change your encoding resolution, so you're streaming at whatever your native resolution is.
If the filter will not install then try going to the FFSplit folder and running the InstallFilter.bat as an admin. negative. It will capture your desktop, but not stream the size of your desktop unless your settings have it to stream your native resolution.
yeah, duh, nevermind, total brainfart there.
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Question : Does this software allow you to stream at 1080p and 60fps, and does it allow me to change the bitrate?
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Of all the things that can be complained about with xsplit, you choose CPU usage? I stream @720p60 flawlessly without coming close to CPU limits (with a moderately overclocked first gen i7) while playing 30+ minute games with an average FPS in triple digits, perhaps you mean the performance hit? They are completely different factors.
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This MultiCam Studio and VHScreenCapture reminds me of the times before XSplit. Isn't that extremely old (2years), outdated technology in comparison to XSplit? Also can you combine it with DXTory?
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On June 17 2012 17:20 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Question : Does this software allow you to stream at 1080p and 60fps, and does it allow me to change the bitrate?
seems like the max is 30 fps
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On June 17 2012 17:20 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Question : Does this software allow you to stream at 1080p and 60fps, and does it allow me to change the bitrate?
max is 720p and 30fps. You can change the bitrate though.
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On June 18 2012 04:47 AeroEffect wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 17:20 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Question : Does this software allow you to stream at 1080p and 60fps, and does it allow me to change the bitrate? max is 720p and 30fps. You can change the bitrate though.
You can do 1080p in FFSplit.
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**EDIT** Updated test stream with settings
Ok, i've been tweaking the settings for a while after setting up. For the setup, you don't need to do anything with VH Multicam studio if you use VHscrcap as a camera. You would set it up like this rather than using VH Multicam to set resolution.+ Show Spoiler +
Besides that, the setup isn't too bad, but the thing I find lacking is the VHscrcap camera quality in comparison with xsplit screen capture. The video quality is good, but seems to get a bit pixellated when a lot of things are happening around the screen. Here are 2 reference videos I took playing SC2 as well as Osu! while using the settings in the screenshot provided.
If you already use an external camera while using the free version of xsplit, then I would wholeheartedly say to switch over to FFSplit, as FFSplit allows up to 1080p 30fps as well as 320kbps Stereo audio quality. Though it lacks some of the convenience xsplit provides, if you only focus on streaming pure gaming content, rather than putting on a show with overlays and such, this is the perfect program.
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On June 18 2012 05:00 Flameling wrote:Ok, i've been tweaking the settings for a while after setting up. For the setup, you don't need to do anything with VH Multicam studio if you use VHscrcap as a camera. You would set it up like this rather than using VH Multicam to set resolution. + Show Spoiler +Besides that, the setup isn't too bad, but the thing I find lacking is the VHscrcap camera quality in comparison with xsplit screen capture. The video quality is good, but seems to get a bit pixellated when a lot of things are happening around the screen. Here are 2 reference videos I took playing SC2 as well as Osu! while using the settings in the screenshot provided. If you already use an external camera while using the free version of xsplit, then I would wholeheartedly say to switch over to FFSplit, as FFSplit allows up to 1080p 30fps as well as 320kbps Stereo audio quality. Though it lacks some of the convenience xsplit provides, if you only focus on streaming pure gaming content, rather than putting on a show with overlays and such, this is the perfect program.
Whats your upload speed? Usually the only time streams get pixelated is when its buffering because there isnt enough upload speed.
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On June 18 2012 04:50 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 04:47 AeroEffect wrote:On June 17 2012 17:20 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Question : Does this software allow you to stream at 1080p and 60fps, and does it allow me to change the bitrate? max is 720p and 30fps. You can change the bitrate though. You can do 1080p in FFSplit.
Just found that out. Last night when I started using ffsplit and wrote this guide, i thought that I had to use a drop box for the res and didnt even think to type in the resolution i wanted. I do know for sure though that the highest fps available is 30.
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On June 18 2012 05:50 AeroEffect wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 04:50 WTFZerg wrote:On June 18 2012 04:47 AeroEffect wrote:On June 17 2012 17:20 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Question : Does this software allow you to stream at 1080p and 60fps, and does it allow me to change the bitrate? max is 720p and 30fps. You can change the bitrate though. You can do 1080p in FFSplit. Just found that out. Last night when I started using ffsplit and wrote this guide, i thought that I had to use a drop box for the res and didnt even think to type in the resolution i wanted. I do know for sure though that the highest fps available is 30.
Yeah, 30 fps is currently the cap. I tried changing it in the settings.ini but it fails to go live, heh.
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On June 18 2012 05:48 AeroEffect wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 05:00 Flameling wrote:Ok, i've been tweaking the settings for a while after setting up. For the setup, you don't need to do anything with VH Multicam studio if you use VHscrcap as a camera. You would set it up like this rather than using VH Multicam to set resolution. + Show Spoiler +Besides that, the setup isn't too bad, but the thing I find lacking is the VHscrcap camera quality in comparison with xsplit screen capture. The video quality is good, but seems to get a bit pixellated when a lot of things are happening around the screen. Here are 2 reference videos I took playing SC2 as well as Osu! while using the settings in the screenshot provided. If you already use an external camera while using the free version of xsplit, then I would wholeheartedly say to switch over to FFSplit, as FFSplit allows up to 1080p 30fps as well as 320kbps Stereo audio quality. Though it lacks some of the convenience xsplit provides, if you only focus on streaming pure gaming content, rather than putting on a show with overlays and such, this is the perfect program. Whats your upload speed? Usually the only time streams get pixelated is when its buffering because there isnt enough upload speed.
I have 650kbps set as the video bitrate. Yes, my upload speed is really limited for streaming, but in terms of that, I'm saying that xsplit screen region capture is better for lower upload it seems, than vhscrcap. If you look at some of my older recordings, it seems clearer than the test vids that I did for vhscrcap+ffsplit.
*btw, can you give us a sample video of your stream?
**I'm going to try dxtory now as camera :d
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On June 18 2012 06:27 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 05:48 AeroEffect wrote:On June 18 2012 05:00 Flameling wrote:Ok, i've been tweaking the settings for a while after setting up. For the setup, you don't need to do anything with VH Multicam studio if you use VHscrcap as a camera. You would set it up like this rather than using VH Multicam to set resolution. + Show Spoiler +Besides that, the setup isn't too bad, but the thing I find lacking is the VHscrcap camera quality in comparison with xsplit screen capture. The video quality is good, but seems to get a bit pixellated when a lot of things are happening around the screen. Here are 2 reference videos I took playing SC2 as well as Osu! while using the settings in the screenshot provided. If you already use an external camera while using the free version of xsplit, then I would wholeheartedly say to switch over to FFSplit, as FFSplit allows up to 1080p 30fps as well as 320kbps Stereo audio quality. Though it lacks some of the convenience xsplit provides, if you only focus on streaming pure gaming content, rather than putting on a show with overlays and such, this is the perfect program. Whats your upload speed? Usually the only time streams get pixelated is when its buffering because there isnt enough upload speed. I have 650kbps set as the video bitrate. Yes, my upload speed is really limited for streaming, but in terms of that, I'm saying that xsplit screen region capture is better for lower upload it seems, than vhscrcap. If you look at some of my older recordings, it seems clearer than the test vids that I did for vhscrcap+ffsplit. *btw, can you give us a sample video of your stream? **I'm going to try dxtory now as camera :d
Yes, here is link. I stream in 1152x720.
http://www.twitch.tv/doverton252/b/321801368
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Link your FFSplit and VHScrCap settings (if applicable).
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On June 18 2012 10:51 WTFZerg wrote:Link your FFSplit and VHScrCap settings (if applicable).
Here:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/snxEA.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KLMGW.png)
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Wait, what is that second program beneath?
I do not recognize that.
edit: Ohhh that's the VH Capture thing. You don't use that.
Under Hmelyoff Labs (where VH Capture is) there should be another folder called VHScrCap, and in that folder there should be a program named Config. Close FFSplit, open the "config" program, hit "create new one." Under the "capture" tab enter your resolution, then in the Settings tab select "capture mouse", "resize to output size, and "keep aspect." Nothing else should be checked.
![[image loading]](http://oi48.tinypic.com/35j02g1.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://oi50.tinypic.com/2illmjl.jpg)
edit 2: and up your video bitrate to something more like 2250. 1000 is not going to cut it for 720p.
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On June 18 2012 11:05 WTFZerg wrote:
Wait, what is that second program beneath?
I do not recognize that.
VhScrCapture
Edit: Seems like the video is working for some reason now, but it lagging so badly.
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On June 18 2012 10:54 Azera wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 10:51 WTFZerg wrote:Link your FFSplit and VHScrCap settings (if applicable). Here:
I see you got it working ^^ 
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On June 18 2012 11:07 Azera wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 11:05 WTFZerg wrote:
Wait, what is that second program beneath?
I do not recognize that. VhScrCapture Edit: Seems like the video is working for some reason now, but it lagging so badly.
I think its because his audio bitrate is so high. Azera, whats your upload speed?
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On June 18 2012 11:11 AeroEffect wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 11:07 Azera wrote:On June 18 2012 11:05 WTFZerg wrote:
Wait, what is that second program beneath?
I do not recognize that. VhScrCapture Edit: Seems like the video is working for some reason now, but it lagging so badly. I think its because his audio bitrate is so high. Azera, whats your upload speed?
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2013555336.png)
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On June 18 2012 11:11 Azera wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 11:11 AeroEffect wrote:On June 18 2012 11:07 Azera wrote:On June 18 2012 11:05 WTFZerg wrote:
Wait, what is that second program beneath?
I do not recognize that. VhScrCapture Edit: Seems like the video is working for some reason now, but it lagging so badly. I think its because his audio bitrate is so high. Azera, whats your upload speed?
Holy shit. okay. um. hmm. hmm. what resolution are you streaming in?
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What's the fps/ping hit like in game compared to Xsplit?
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On June 18 2012 12:41 scottyyy wrote:
What's the fps/ping hit like in game compared to Xsplit?
its not bad at all. lets say xsplit did like a 10% hit, ffsplit is about a 6% hit
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On June 18 2012 12:41 scottyyy wrote:
What's the fps/ping hit like in game compared to Xsplit?
Ping is exactly the same. It's all based on bandwidth usage. The fps is just the video capture device encoding. I think it's about the same as xsplit screen region capture (vhscrcap that is).
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Been using FFSplit for almost a week now since XSplit messes up with my video card. Had some problems setting it up but once I find a good video/sound source combination, it's been good so far.
Really miss R1ch's scene switcher that's used with Xsplit/SC2 but that's pretty much it.
look at some of the VODs on my stream to see some of the differences in xsplit/ffsplit, used xsplit on the 12/13th and switched to FFsplit after that.
http://bit.ly/MBNVKD
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Hey guys, FFsplit is pretty fucking incredible, really nice find aero, thanks a lot for that .. However, i'm having a few small problems with quality.
Settings :
Bitrate - 3750
Resolution - 1920x1080
Frame rate - 30
Audio bitrate - 320
Preset - Default
Vod : http://www.twitch.tv/rakoons/b/321937471
It looks really nice but it doesn't look as good as some 1080p streams e.g. - Destiny, whitera etc
What can i do to increase the quality?
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On June 19 2012 14:04 Josh_rakoons wrote:Hey guys, FFsplit is pretty fucking incredible, really nice find aero, thanks a lot for that .. However, i'm having a few small problems with quality. Settings : Bitrate - 3750 Resolution - 1920x1080 Frame rate - 30 Audio bitrate - 320 Preset - Default Vod : http://www.twitch.tv/rakoons/b/321937471It looks really nice but it doesn't look as good as some 1080p streams e.g. - Destiny, whitera etc What can i do to increase the quality?
what type of cpu do you have? Im sure if you can stream 1080p it must be a damn good one so im going to say, change your preset to fast.
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On June 19 2012 14:40 Josh_rakoons wrote:
i5 2500k @ 4.7 ghz
yea, just change your preset to fast. that should make the quality look a bit better as it helped my stream alot.
btw, the quality on your stream looks great ^^
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Yeah, it looks pretty good, but i've always aspired to have the same stream quality as whitera :D
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On June 19 2012 14:48 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Yeah, it looks pretty good, but i've always aspired to have the same stream quality as whitera :D
Tbh, with the processor you have you should easily be able to have the same quality stream.
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A bit of a side question here but I want to ask how much demanding in CPU power is this compared to Xsplit and more importantly FMLE?
I'm streaming with FMLE but if possible, i'd like to improve my streaming settings without affecting my ingame performance / stutter etc thus my interest here.
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It's much better than FMLE in my opinion.... FMLE is much more demanding than xsplit and ffsplit
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On June 19 2012 14:50 Marksman wrote:
A bit of a side question here but I want to ask how much demanding in CPU power is this compared to Xsplit and more importantly FMLE?
I'm streaming with FMLE but if possible, i'd like to improve my streaming settings without affecting my ingame performance / stutter etc thus my interest here.
The performance is better than FMLE by quite a bit, at least from what I have experienced.
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FMLE dragged my fps down by a lot. FFSplit barely has any impact.
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On June 19 2012 14:48 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Yeah, it looks pretty good, but i've always aspired to have the same stream quality as whitera :D
hey, I had it backwards. set your encoding speed to either very fast or super fast for best quality
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Big problem just occurred, it seems to be cutting off veeeery early in streaming, like i'm streaming for 5 minutes and it cuts off at 2 minutes.. Anyone else having this problem??
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On June 19 2012 15:18 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Big problem just occurred, it seems to be cutting off veeeery early in streaming, like i'm streaming for 5 minutes and it cuts off at 2 minutes.. Anyone else having this problem??
Happened to me too. It's because you have your bitrate set too high or you don't have it limited at all.
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Well that sucks, so i can't stream at a high bitrate?
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On June 19 2012 15:12 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 14:50 Marksman wrote:
A bit of a side question here but I want to ask how much demanding in CPU power is this compared to Xsplit and more importantly FMLE?
I'm streaming with FMLE but if possible, i'd like to improve my streaming settings without affecting my ingame performance / stutter etc thus my interest here. The performance is better than FMLE by quite a bit, at least from what I have experienced.
thanks i'll give it a shot then
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On June 19 2012 16:34 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Well that sucks, so i can't stream at a high bitrate?
Well, first off, what is your upload rate?
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I get better performance in XSplit. Ofcourse you get strain on your CPU when you are encoding, there is no way around that. On top of that you can do alot more stuff with XSplit.
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On June 19 2012 17:50 Avean wrote:
I get better performance in XSplit. Ofcourse you get strain on your CPU when you are encoding, there is no way around that. On top of that you can do alot more stuff with XSplit.
Xsplit is nice when you purchase it, but the free version sucks. Im using xsplit until I get a better connection. Once I get a better connection, im going to switch back to using ffsplit simply because to me its a much better program.
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Yeah, if you want to stream for free, FFsplit is faaaaaaaaaaaaar superior.
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On June 19 2012 16:29 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 15:18 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Big problem just occurred, it seems to be cutting off veeeery early in streaming, like i'm streaming for 5 minutes and it cuts off at 2 minutes.. Anyone else having this problem?? Happened to me too. It's because you have your bitrate set too high or you don't have it limited at all.
Anyone else having this? Is there anyway to get this to work without lowering the bitrate????
I lowered the bitrate from 3750 to 3000 and it was even worse...............
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On June 19 2012 18:22 Josh_rakoons wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 16:29 Flameling wrote:On June 19 2012 15:18 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Big problem just occurred, it seems to be cutting off veeeery early in streaming, like i'm streaming for 5 minutes and it cuts off at 2 minutes.. Anyone else having this problem?? Happened to me too. It's because you have your bitrate set too high or you don't have it limited at all. Anyone else having this? Is there anyway to get this to work without lowering the bitrate???? I lowered the bitrate from 3750 to 3000 and it was even worse...............
What is your upload rate... can you get it from speedtest.net?
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It won't start streaming for me. I'm using the twitch.tv link and I get my code which I copypaste after
rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/
Any help ?
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Will be testing this after GSL!
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On June 19 2012 19:04 Vekalisk wrote:
Will be testing this after GSL!
Ninja edit :D
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On June 19 2012 19:02 Furywitch wrote:
It won't start streaming for me. I'm using the twitch.tv link and I get my code which I copypaste after
rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/
Any help ?
Take a screenshot of your debug console when you start your stream.
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I managed to get it to work, but I have horrible fps ingame now. I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz and it's constantly at 100% load on all the cores. Encode preset is even on slow. Is this normal ?
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On June 19 2012 19:23 Furywitch wrote:
I managed to get it to work, but I have horrible fps ingame now. I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz and it's constantly at 100% load on all the cores. Encode preset is even on slow. Is this normal ?
try it again with encode preset on default o.o
*i'm pretty sure the slower the encode the more cpu usage
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On June 19 2012 19:23 Furywitch wrote:
I managed to get it to work, but I have horrible fps ingame now. I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz and it's constantly at 100% load on all the cores. Encode preset is even on slow. Is this normal ?
use fast or faster for your preset. Anything lower than that will cripple your CPU unless you have i7
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On June 19 2012 19:10 Josh_rakoons wrote:Ninja edit :D
Meant to post in LR. Whoops! :p
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I don't seem to get any video source options other than Xsplit broadcaster (got xsplit installed) and my laptop Webcam?! am I missing something?
Also first time I started it, I didn't get the screen as per OP, but it went strait up filter (not installing) and then to the capture and settings tabs.
version 0.3.4.9
huh?!
Edit: did the admin filter install! now I get the FFsplit overlay 1.8 option.
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You need to setup VHscrcap, did you do that?
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On June 19 2012 19:42 Josh_rakoons wrote:
You need to setup VHscrcap, did you do that?
Ah yes, now it all makes more sense.
But what is the build-in overlay 1.8 video source from the filter install? can't / shouldn't be used?
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Tutorial worked first try for me, didn't run into any problems. Thanks for this, cant afford xsplit license so this is awesome.
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On June 19 2012 19:52 doomed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:42 Josh_rakoons wrote:
You need to setup VHscrcap, did you do that? Ah yes, now it all makes more sense. But what is the build-in overlay 1.8 video source from the filter install? can't / shouldn't be used?
Yes, the overlay is a fully functional capture device of its own.
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is there a way to set up webcam and overlays in this?
Im looking for alternatives because xsplit doesnt quite support the new amd 7xxx cards and xsplit just crashes =/
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I don't think so :/ i think it's in development though.
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On June 19 2012 23:50 KiF1rE wrote:
is there a way to set up webcam and overlays in this?
Im looking for alternatives because xsplit doesnt quite support the new amd 7xxx cards and xsplit just crashes =/
@zhurai: @FFsplit also a way to combine 2 different input sources (such as dxtory video 1 + a webcam for example) would be nice
@FFsplit @zhurai We should have more features, ie webcam support in a couple weeks! stay tuned.
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Is there a change log for 0.3.4.9?
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Im sorry I haven't had the time to try this out fully myself but what are peoples performance reports trying this out compared to Xsplit? also do you use the inbuild filter overlay to capture or the extra addon codec?
thanks!
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Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...
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On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program...
That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free?
Id like some numbers/ images or vods
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On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods
does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming
I dont know of anything more efficient than x264, and since this program aparantly uses LESS cpu, logic says quality at the same bitrate will be worse
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On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods
Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES.
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On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES.
I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong.
There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources
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On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES. I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong. There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources
In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that.
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On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES. I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong. There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that.
I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment
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I've just switched over to FFsplit. It's working awesome with better FPS boost and Windows response ;D. Didn't take that long to setup too ;D
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What's the fps drop in-game compared to using xsplit ?
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I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low.
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On June 21 2012 01:23 nucLeaRTV wrote:
What's the fps drop in-game compared to using xsplit ?
Different for everyone, dependant of individual specs, set up, hundreds of possible variables
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Fixed the audio but having a hard time getting video now. Either black screen or lag all over the place.
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Okay, I've finished testing and it's quite annoying. I get different FPS results all the time, I get high FPS at start (~150), while dropping to just 30-40 after 10 minutes. The most annoying part is that my stream crashes all the time and it's annoying as hell.
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On June 21 2012 03:22 nucLeaRTV wrote:
Okay, I've finished testing and it's quite annoying. I get different FPS results all the time, I get high FPS at start (~150), while dropping to just 30-40 after 10 minutes. The most annoying part is that my stream crashes all the time and it's annoying as hell.
are you updated to the lastest patch? have you tried a fresh ffsplit extract and then update? And if your getting the error "FFmpeg has stopped working" they have a thread on their website about it.
After deleting my old ffsplit folder and getting a new one and updating I had no problems with crashing.
On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:
I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong.
There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources
On ultrafast preset there is more pixelation using same bitrate for ffsplit. But the difference in machine use is considerable.
My review was on the front page of the website and I mentioned that it had more pixelation @ 1080p on the same preset but used like 40% less CPU, Ive done more testing since then and the pixelation isn't all that bad once i was streaming 4000kbps which was only a 1000kbps bump up, which for my internet is nothing. But for others if they want to sacrifice performance for quality then its obviously better, and another plus is the audio isn't shitty like free xsplit version.
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Ok, I've managed to install it and I've got to say I'm impressed. I get a little more FPS than xsplit and besides that I can use Aero (which weirdly enough increases the fps as well) and it's less laggy than xsplit. I'm using their built-in recorder, not dxtroy or VME or whatever.
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On June 21 2012 00:27 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES. I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong. There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that. I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment
FFSplit uses x264 as well.
On June 21 2012 02:28 akskiller wrote:
I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low.
Check and make sure the stereo mix audio is not set too low in the Windows sound settings.
Little audio speaker right click -> Recording Devices -> Right click on Stereo Mix - Properties -> Levels
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What should i do if FFSplit Audio isn't showing in the audio options?
Also, whenever i begin streaming, i'm unable to watch myself and keep my dashboard open, it just shows up as black or my default offline screen. Can anyone help me out?
And lastly, my stream will often shut down by itself after 1-2 minutes of broadcasting.
If anyone could help me out i would be very, very much appreciated.
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On June 21 2012 08:15 TheZanthex wrote:What should i do if FFSplit Audio isn't showing in the audio options? Also, whenever i begin streaming, i'm unable to watch myself and keep my dashboard open, it just shows up as black or my default offline screen. Can anyone help me out? And lastly, my stream will often shut down by itself after 1-2 minutes of broadcasting. If anyone could help me out i would be very, very much appreciated.
Do you have the latest version of Java x86, .NET 4.0, and the VC++ redist?
Make sure you're up to date on all those and then post your VHScrCap (if applicable) and FFSplit settings.
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On June 21 2012 08:15 TheZanthex wrote:What should i do if FFSplit Audio isn't showing in the audio options? Also, whenever i begin streaming, i'm unable to watch myself and keep my dashboard open, it just shows up as black or my default offline screen. Can anyone help me out? And lastly, my stream will often shut down by itself after 1-2 minutes of broadcasting. If anyone could help me out i would be very, very much appreciated.
If you have your bitrate set too high it could crash too.
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On June 21 2012 08:46 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 08:15 TheZanthex wrote:What should i do if FFSplit Audio isn't showing in the audio options? Also, whenever i begin streaming, i'm unable to watch myself and keep my dashboard open, it just shows up as black or my default offline screen. Can anyone help me out? And lastly, my stream will often shut down by itself after 1-2 minutes of broadcasting. If anyone could help me out i would be very, very much appreciated. If you have your bitrate set too high it could crash too.
Yes, I learned this myself that if the bitrate is set too high, sometimes your stream wont even start and when it does it will probably crash within 1-2 minutes
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So like, what is "too high"?
4000?
3000?
3500?
2500?
2000?
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On June 21 2012 15:05 Josh_rakoons wrote:
So like, what is "too high"?
4000?
3000?
3500?
2500?
2000?
More than your upload speed can hold.
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.............. i have 5mb upload and i'm streaming at 3500 and it still crashes...
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On June 21 2012 17:29 Josh_rakoons wrote:
.............. i have 5mb upload and i'm streaming at 3500 and it still crashes...
Variable Bitrate
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On June 21 2012 06:12 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 00:27 Cyro wrote:On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES. I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong. There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that. I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment FFSplit uses x264 as well. Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 02:28 akskiller wrote:
I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low. Check and make sure the stereo mix audio is not set too low in the Windows sound settings. Little audio speaker right click -> Recording Devices -> Right click on Stereo Mix - Properties -> Levels
If it also uses x264, how is it magically using less CPU? Why cant you just mess around with presets and command line settings in xsplit to match whatever quality and resource drain it is giving you?
I appriciate the free option but it seems to have a lot of issues and lots of people with baseless claims about performance.
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Ok. Don't believe us, its really up to you, why don't you actually try it instead of theorycrafting?
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Excellent OP, thanks a lot sir.
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On June 21 2012 19:21 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 06:12 WTFZerg wrote:On June 21 2012 00:27 Cyro wrote:On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES. I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong. There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that. I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment FFSplit uses x264 as well. On June 21 2012 02:28 akskiller wrote:
I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low. Check and make sure the stereo mix audio is not set too low in the Windows sound settings. Little audio speaker right click -> Recording Devices -> Right click on Stereo Mix - Properties -> Levels If it also uses x264, how is it magically using less CPU? Why cant you just mess around with presets and command line settings in xsplit to match whatever quality and resource drain it is giving you? I appriciate the free option but it seems to have a lot of issues and lots of people with baseless claims about performance.
You tend to come into most threads in tech support and shit on everything that people say. You should try it out yourself. You may like it.
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On June 21 2012 19:21 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 06:12 WTFZerg wrote:On June 21 2012 00:27 Cyro wrote:On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES. I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong. There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that. I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment FFSplit uses x264 as well. On June 21 2012 02:28 akskiller wrote:
I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low. Check and make sure the stereo mix audio is not set too low in the Windows sound settings. Little audio speaker right click -> Recording Devices -> Right click on Stereo Mix - Properties -> Levels If it also uses x264, how is it magically using less CPU? Why cant you just mess around with presets and command line settings in xsplit to match whatever quality and resource drain it is giving you? I appriciate the free option but it seems to have a lot of issues and lots of people with baseless claims about performance.
I have no interest in convincing you, I was just saying it ran off x264.
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When i click start icon , i get these errors and get me suspicious that I am a total dumb. Please help..
Debug console:
"Starting Relay...
Encoding...
Going live in
Recording Audio...
Encoding Stopped
..5..4..3..2..1
Streaming...
ffmpeg version N-39664-g6bfb304 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Apr 9 2012 20:29:24 with gcc 4.6.3
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-ru
ntime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libass
--enable-libcelt --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable
-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libope
njpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libth
eora --enable-libutvideo --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-
libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --e
nable-zlib
libavutil 51. 46.100 / 51. 46.100
libavcodec 54. 14.101 / 54. 14.101
libavformat 54. 3.100 / 54. 3.100
libavdevice 53. 4.100 / 53. 4.100
libavfilter 2. 67.101 / 2. 67.101
libswscale 2. 1.100 / 2. 1.100
libswresample 0. 10.100 / 0. 10.100
libpostproc 52. 0.100 / 52. 0.100
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Input #0, mp3, from 'Temp\Temp.mp3':
Metadata:
encoder : Lavf54.3.100
Duration: 00:00:05.85, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 127 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
[flv @ 01cbc480] Format flv detected only with low score of 1, misdetection poss
ible!
[flv @ 01cbc480] Broken FLV file, which says no streams present, this might fail
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Video: none)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: none, 0 channels)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Temp\Temp.flv: could not find codec parameters
Streaming Stopped
Recording Audio Stopped
Relay Stopped"
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On June 22 2012 04:48 Laserist wrote:When i click start icon , i get these errors and get me suspicious that I am a total dumb. Please help.. + Show Spoiler +Debug console:
"Starting Relay...
Encoding...
Going live in
Recording Audio...
Encoding Stopped
..5..4..3..2..1
Streaming...
ffmpeg version N-39664-g6bfb304 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Apr 9 2012 20:29:24 with gcc 4.6.3
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-ru
ntime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libass
--enable-libcelt --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable
-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libope
njpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libth
eora --enable-libutvideo --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-
libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --e
nable-zlib
libavutil 51. 46.100 / 51. 46.100
libavcodec 54. 14.101 / 54. 14.101
libavformat 54. 3.100 / 54. 3.100
libavdevice 53. 4.100 / 53. 4.100
libavfilter 2. 67.101 / 2. 67.101
libswscale 2. 1.100 / 2. 1.100
libswresample 0. 10.100 / 0. 10.100
libpostproc 52. 0.100 / 52. 0.100
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Input #0, mp3, from 'Temp\Temp.mp3':
Metadata:
encoder : Lavf54.3.100
Duration: 00:00:05.85, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 127 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
[flv @ 01cbc480] Format flv detected only with low score of 1, misdetection poss
ible!
[flv @ 01cbc480] Broken FLV file, which says no streams present, this might fail
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Video: none)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: none, 0 channels)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Temp\Temp.flv: could not find codec parameters
Streaming Stopped
Recording Audio Stopped
Relay Stopped"
Can you post a screenshot of your ffsplit settings?
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On June 22 2012 04:57 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 04:48 Laserist wrote:When i click start icon , i get these errors and get me suspicious that I am a total dumb. Please help.. + Show Spoiler +Debug console:
"Starting Relay...
Encoding...
Going live in
Recording Audio...
Encoding Stopped
..5..4..3..2..1
Streaming...
ffmpeg version N-39664-g6bfb304 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Apr 9 2012 20:29:24 with gcc 4.6.3
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-ru
ntime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libass
--enable-libcelt --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable
-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libope
njpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libth
eora --enable-libutvideo --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-
libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --e
nable-zlib
libavutil 51. 46.100 / 51. 46.100
libavcodec 54. 14.101 / 54. 14.101
libavformat 54. 3.100 / 54. 3.100
libavdevice 53. 4.100 / 53. 4.100
libavfilter 2. 67.101 / 2. 67.101
libswscale 2. 1.100 / 2. 1.100
libswresample 0. 10.100 / 0. 10.100
libpostproc 52. 0.100 / 52. 0.100
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Input #0, mp3, from 'Temp\Temp.mp3':
Metadata:
encoder : Lavf54.3.100
Duration: 00:00:05.85, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 127 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
[flv @ 01cbc480] Format flv detected only with low score of 1, misdetection poss
ible!
[flv @ 01cbc480] Broken FLV file, which says no streams present, this might fail
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Video: none)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: none, 0 channels)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Temp\Temp.flv: could not find codec parameters
Streaming Stopped
Recording Audio Stopped
Relay Stopped"
Can you post a screenshot of your ffsplit settings?
Here it is:
![[image loading]](http://imageupload.org/getfile.php?id=230751&a=bdec2d774c878560a74205181343f83e&t=4fe39dd0&o=63801D5879E509DB538F7BBF2E1B54CD64CE4A0C79FB0B914C8E14E3705048B500801C4479E5&n=Untitled.png&i=1)
In settings, debug console and check for update is ticked.
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On June 22 2012 06:50 Laserist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 04:57 Flameling wrote:On June 22 2012 04:48 Laserist wrote:When i click start icon , i get these errors and get me suspicious that I am a total dumb. Please help.. + Show Spoiler +Debug console:
"Starting Relay...
Encoding...
Going live in
Recording Audio...
Encoding Stopped
..5..4..3..2..1
Streaming...
ffmpeg version N-39664-g6bfb304 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Apr 9 2012 20:29:24 with gcc 4.6.3
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-ru
ntime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libass
--enable-libcelt --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable
-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libope
njpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libth
eora --enable-libutvideo --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-
libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --e
nable-zlib
libavutil 51. 46.100 / 51. 46.100
libavcodec 54. 14.101 / 54. 14.101
libavformat 54. 3.100 / 54. 3.100
libavdevice 53. 4.100 / 53. 4.100
libavfilter 2. 67.101 / 2. 67.101
libswscale 2. 1.100 / 2. 1.100
libswresample 0. 10.100 / 0. 10.100
libpostproc 52. 0.100 / 52. 0.100
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Input #0, mp3, from 'Temp\Temp.mp3':
Metadata:
encoder : Lavf54.3.100
Duration: 00:00:05.85, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 127 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
[flv @ 01cbc480] Format flv detected only with low score of 1, misdetection poss
ible!
[flv @ 01cbc480] Broken FLV file, which says no streams present, this might fail
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Video: none)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: none, 0 channels)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Temp\Temp.flv: could not find codec parameters
Streaming Stopped
Recording Audio Stopped
Relay Stopped"
Can you post a screenshot of your ffsplit settings? Here it is: In settings, debug console and check for update is ticked.
Use vhscrcap as camera, and what's the live-lhr-backup in your stream key?
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On June 22 2012 07:15 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 06:50 Laserist wrote:On June 22 2012 04:57 Flameling wrote:On June 22 2012 04:48 Laserist wrote:When i click start icon , i get these errors and get me suspicious that I am a total dumb. Please help.. + Show Spoiler +Debug console:
"Starting Relay...
Encoding...
Going live in
Recording Audio...
Encoding Stopped
..5..4..3..2..1
Streaming...
ffmpeg version N-39664-g6bfb304 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Apr 9 2012 20:29:24 with gcc 4.6.3
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-ru
ntime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libass
--enable-libcelt --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable
-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libope
njpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libth
eora --enable-libutvideo --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-
libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --e
nable-zlib
libavutil 51. 46.100 / 51. 46.100
libavcodec 54. 14.101 / 54. 14.101
libavformat 54. 3.100 / 54. 3.100
libavdevice 53. 4.100 / 53. 4.100
libavfilter 2. 67.101 / 2. 67.101
libswscale 2. 1.100 / 2. 1.100
libswresample 0. 10.100 / 0. 10.100
libpostproc 52. 0.100 / 52. 0.100
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Input #0, mp3, from 'Temp\Temp.mp3':
Metadata:
encoder : Lavf54.3.100
Duration: 00:00:05.85, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 127 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
[flv @ 01cbc480] Format flv detected only with low score of 1, misdetection poss
ible!
[flv @ 01cbc480] Broken FLV file, which says no streams present, this might fail
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Video: none)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: none, 0 channels)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Temp\Temp.flv: could not find codec parameters
Streaming Stopped
Recording Audio Stopped
Relay Stopped"
Can you post a screenshot of your ffsplit settings? Here it is: In settings, debug console and check for update is ticked. Use vhscrcap as camera, and what's the live-lhr-backup in your stream key?
It is the London server of twitch, works on FMLE
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On June 22 2012 07:42 Laserist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:15 Flameling wrote:On June 22 2012 06:50 Laserist wrote:On June 22 2012 04:57 Flameling wrote:On June 22 2012 04:48 Laserist wrote:When i click start icon , i get these errors and get me suspicious that I am a total dumb. Please help.. + Show Spoiler +Debug console:
"Starting Relay...
Encoding...
Going live in
Recording Audio...
Encoding Stopped
..5..4..3..2..1
Streaming...
ffmpeg version N-39664-g6bfb304 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Apr 9 2012 20:29:24 with gcc 4.6.3
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-ru
ntime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libass
--enable-libcelt --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable
-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libope
njpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libth
eora --enable-libutvideo --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-
libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --e
nable-zlib
libavutil 51. 46.100 / 51. 46.100
libavcodec 54. 14.101 / 54. 14.101
libavformat 54. 3.100 / 54. 3.100
libavdevice 53. 4.100 / 53. 4.100
libavfilter 2. 67.101 / 2. 67.101
libswscale 2. 1.100 / 2. 1.100
libswresample 0. 10.100 / 0. 10.100
libpostproc 52. 0.100 / 52. 0.100
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Input #0, mp3, from 'Temp\Temp.mp3':
Metadata:
encoder : Lavf54.3.100
Duration: 00:00:05.85, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 127 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
[flv @ 01cbc480] Format flv detected only with low score of 1, misdetection poss
ible!
[flv @ 01cbc480] Broken FLV file, which says no streams present, this might fail
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Video: none)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: none, 0 channels)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Temp\Temp.flv: could not find codec parameters
Streaming Stopped
Recording Audio Stopped
Relay Stopped"
Can you post a screenshot of your ffsplit settings? Here it is: In settings, debug console and check for update is ticked. Use vhscrcap as camera, and what's the live-lhr-backup in your stream key? It is the London server of twitch, works on FMLE
Any twitch RTMP that works with FMLE or XSplit should work with FFSplit. I use the Miami one my self.
edit: And, yeah, VHMulitcam is not what anyone should be using. It's VHScrCap that you're looking for.
As a matter of fact there's no reason to open anything other than the VHScrCap config program.
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On June 22 2012 07:42 Laserist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:15 Flameling wrote:On June 22 2012 06:50 Laserist wrote:On June 22 2012 04:57 Flameling wrote:On June 22 2012 04:48 Laserist wrote:When i click start icon , i get these errors and get me suspicious that I am a total dumb. Please help.. + Show Spoiler +Debug console:
"Starting Relay...
Encoding...
Going live in
Recording Audio...
Encoding Stopped
..5..4..3..2..1
Streaming...
ffmpeg version N-39664-g6bfb304 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Apr 9 2012 20:29:24 with gcc 4.6.3
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-ru
ntime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libass
--enable-libcelt --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable
-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libope
njpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libth
eora --enable-libutvideo --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-
libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --e
nable-zlib
libavutil 51. 46.100 / 51. 46.100
libavcodec 54. 14.101 / 54. 14.101
libavformat 54. 3.100 / 54. 3.100
libavdevice 53. 4.100 / 53. 4.100
libavfilter 2. 67.101 / 2. 67.101
libswscale 2. 1.100 / 2. 1.100
libswresample 0. 10.100 / 0. 10.100
libpostproc 52. 0.100 / 52. 0.100
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510
[mp3 @ 01ca1a20] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Input #0, mp3, from 'Temp\Temp.mp3':
Metadata:
encoder : Lavf54.3.100
Duration: 00:00:05.85, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 127 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
[flv @ 01cbc480] Format flv detected only with low score of 1, misdetection poss
ible!
[flv @ 01cbc480] Broken FLV file, which says no streams present, this might fail
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Video: none)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: none, 0 channels)
[flv @ 01cbc480] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Temp\Temp.flv: could not find codec parameters
Streaming Stopped
Recording Audio Stopped
Relay Stopped"
Can you post a screenshot of your ffsplit settings? Here it is: In settings, debug console and check for update is ticked. Use vhscrcap as camera, and what's the live-lhr-backup in your stream key? It is the London server of twitch, works on FMLE
Ok well, did using vhscrcap as camera rather than VHmulticam work for you?
edit: ok yeah, aero, are you sure you needed to edit settings in VHMulticam for your setup?
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Guys,
Thanks for your help. I found the problem.
For me, I needed to set both VH Multi Cam Studio resolution and FFsplit resolution should be exactly the same. They were different (a known ratio) for me. When I set them to equal I start streaming.
Now an another problem occurs that frequently FFsplit crashes without any notice. I am trying to figure this out.
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On June 22 2012 08:15 Laserist wrote:
Guys,
Thanks for your help. I found the problem.
For me, I needed to set both VH Multi Cam Studio resolution and FFsplit resolution should be exactly the same. They were different (a known ratio) for me. When I set them to equal I start streaming.
Now an another problem occurs that frequently FFsplit crashes without any notice. I am trying to figure this out.
FFsplit actually crashes or your stream crashes but ffsplit is still on?
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help with the popup
"FFsplit capture source was not found. Do you want to install the filter?"
I click yes but gives me the same message.
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On June 22 2012 09:31 Atmosfear wrote:
help with the popup
"FFsplit capture source was not found. Do you want to install the filter?"
I click yes but gives me the same message.
You actually don't need the filter(i don't think). Just make sure you have a screen capture program installed like vhscrcap or dxtory or the other screencapture program
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On June 22 2012 10:19 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 09:31 Atmosfear wrote:
help with the popup
"FFsplit capture source was not found. Do you want to install the filter?"
I click yes but gives me the same message. You actually don't need the filter(i don't think). Just make sure you have a screen capture program installed like vhscrcap or dtory or the other screencapture program
This is true. However, if you want to use the filter, open the FFSplit folder and run the RegisterFilter.bat as an administrator.
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On June 21 2012 23:21 AeroEffect wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 19:21 Cyro wrote:On June 21 2012 06:12 WTFZerg wrote:On June 21 2012 00:27 Cyro wrote:On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES. I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong. There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that. I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment FFSplit uses x264 as well. On June 21 2012 02:28 akskiller wrote:
I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low. Check and make sure the stereo mix audio is not set too low in the Windows sound settings. Little audio speaker right click -> Recording Devices -> Right click on Stereo Mix - Properties -> Levels If it also uses x264, how is it magically using less CPU? Why cant you just mess around with presets and command line settings in xsplit to match whatever quality and resource drain it is giving you? I appriciate the free option but it seems to have a lot of issues and lots of people with baseless claims about performance. You tend to come into most threads in tech support and shit on everything that people say. You should try it out yourself. You may like it.
Sorry, that was not my intention. I am fine with xsplit though, more features, and i am able to stream @1280x720 at 60fps and about 250fps ingame for sc2 earlygame (dropping over time, but that will happen regardless of setup) on a system that is now pretty mediocre. I think there should be much more distinction between performance hit from screen capturing, etc, and actual CPU use for encoding, everybody seems to get them mixed up and x264 is incredibly CPU light
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On June 22 2012 13:46 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 23:21 AeroEffect wrote:On June 21 2012 19:21 Cyro wrote:On June 21 2012 06:12 WTFZerg wrote:On June 21 2012 00:27 Cyro wrote:On June 21 2012 00:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 23:52 Cyro wrote:On June 20 2012 23:12 Josh_rakoons wrote:On June 20 2012 22:02 doomed wrote:On June 20 2012 21:55 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Compared to xsplit? Far far far far far superior if you want a free program... That doesn't answer my question though... does it take less computer power to achieve the same quality when streaming? yes/no? is it only far far far ........ better because its free? Id like some numbers/ images or vods Yes, it's far far far better because its free and gives the same, if not better quality, and seems to run better, IN MY EXPERIENCES. I am almost certain it is not more efficient than xsplit. It will either provide more CPU use, or less quality at the same bitrate, unless i am wrong. There could be differences in performance hits for screen capture etc (i dont know, its not an issue for me either way), but in terms of CPU drawn to encode the video, and the video output, the results should be at absolute best, around the same as xsplit, if it was set up to use the same amount of CPU resources In my experiences its better in every single way.. except the odd features xsplit offers like overlays and stuff like that. I dont believe that to be possible. Do you know what the program is encoding with? I checked the website but it was not obvious anywhere. Xsplit uses x264 for a reason, i seriously doubt it can be matched with less CPU power in that kind of enviroment FFSplit uses x264 as well. On June 21 2012 02:28 akskiller wrote:
I am having a problem where my audio is very low. From the audio source I dont see ffsplit audio listed there so I selected stereo mix VIA but audio is very low. Check and make sure the stereo mix audio is not set too low in the Windows sound settings. Little audio speaker right click -> Recording Devices -> Right click on Stereo Mix - Properties -> Levels If it also uses x264, how is it magically using less CPU? Why cant you just mess around with presets and command line settings in xsplit to match whatever quality and resource drain it is giving you? I appriciate the free option but it seems to have a lot of issues and lots of people with baseless claims about performance. You tend to come into most threads in tech support and shit on everything that people say. You should try it out yourself. You may like it. Sorry, that was not my intention. I am fine with xsplit though, more features, and i am able to stream @1280x720 at 60fps and about 250fps ingame for sc2 earlygame (dropping over time, but that will happen regardless of setup) on a system that is now pretty mediocre. I think there should be much more distinction between performance hit from screen capturing, etc, and actual CPU use for encoding, everybody seems to get them mixed up and x264 is incredibly CPU light
yea xsplit is by far the better program if yo are willing to pay for it. i can barely aford to feed my family and make my bills at the moment though so paying for xsplit is out of the question. this is more of a free alternative to xsplit for people that miss good audio and/or have weaker systems. I can run this on my current build (1045t stock) with no problem. I can run xsplit as well but the audio quality is a lot weaker.
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FFSplit 0.3.5 now natively supports stereo mix and microphone together.
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i am having problem with streaming starcraft2...
when im streaming... on desktop the stream seems fine... but when im streaming playing starcraft2 on fullscreen it flickers whenever i move my screen to any other places..
any ideas whats hapenning?
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On June 22 2012 18:25 Genryu wrote:
i am having problem with streaming starcraft2...
when im streaming... on desktop the stream seems fine... but when im streaming playing starcraft2 on fullscreen it flickers whenever i move my screen to any other places..
any ideas whats hapenning?
play on fullscreen windowed mode.
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full screen
wont that drop my fps?
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Is it possible to make this work with Dxtory somehow for a better fps?
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You can use Dxtory as a Video source.
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It won't let me install the filter.
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On June 23 2012 02:23 nucLeaRTV wrote:
You can use Dxtory as a Video source.
I would just like to add that to get Dxtory working with FFsplit, you need to make sure that the framerate you set in FFsplit must be the same frame as Dxtory. That's the only issue with Dxtory that I know of.
On June 23 2012 03:00 MinimalistSC2 wrote:
It won't let me install the filter.
http://www.ffsplit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=64
Also, try posting on the forums or IRC if you're having technical issues. It's easier for me help you from there.
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Have anybody encountered this error?
![[image loading]](http://gyazo.com/df42902efed52c3068797dc0ae4212a3.png?1340392464)
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On June 23 2012 04:25 Rimak wrote:Have anybody encountered this error? + Show Spoiler +
Try reinstalling FFsplit to a new folder and then updating before actually opening the client by opening FFupdater.exe
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On June 23 2012 06:01 Flameling wrote:Try reinstalling FFsplit to a new folder and then updating before actually opening the client by opening FFupdater.exe
Aye, I've found it better to extract a fresh copy of 0.3.2 to update whenever a new version is released.
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When I open FFSplit It says that in cant find java.log. in the FFsplit folder, and when I continue I can't find a video or a audeo source. I have everyting installed but when I try to install VC++ Runtime it says that there is a later edition already installed, I also did try to install the 64 bit one, (I run 64 windows)
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Does anyone know who actually made FFsplit? I'd like to contact them ^^
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run the updater as administrator
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On June 24 2012 11:35 Paroxysm wrote:
Does anyone know who actually made FFsplit? I'd like to contact them ^^
You can reach me on the IRC channel on the website.
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On June 24 2012 12:53 taqattack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 11:35 Paroxysm wrote:
Does anyone know who actually made FFsplit? I'd like to contact them ^^ You can reach me on the IRC channel on the website.
Oh dang, are you the creator of FFsplit?
Edit: Update on my stream settings/video incase anyone is curious as to quality.
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2025895808.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PFW4m.png)
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Thanks for posting this, really good guide helped me all the way through with only minor issues.
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I have like a ten second lag between what i'm actually doing and what the stream is displaying. Any reasons why? I have an upload of 5 megs and have my vrate at 3k. Didn't happen when using xsplit.
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Yeah, ffsplit has a pretty major issue right now that it has a huge delay which gets bigger and bigger if your bitrate is too high, even if you have the sufficient upload for said bitrate, hopefully they fix that..
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Just tried streaming at 1000 bitrate, and it still just shuts down randomly at 6 minutes, when i stream for at least 20, has anyone actually had success with this program?
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Yes, I do and works well. Use their Video source, not some other one and it won't shut down almost at all (rarely happens), usually just once then goes smoothly next 3-4 hours, so yo should check sometimes the console.
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Just tried their video source, and its even worse, cuts off at 2 minutes, i've tried twice now.
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Apparently running as administrator magically fixes the problem, who knew.
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I updated the guide abit but Im not able to do much atm as my desktop is messed up and the laptop im on is pretty bad and cuts off randomly (HP DV9000.... -__-).
When I get a new mobo for my desktop, I will do a complete reqwrite of the guide as it is not required to use an external video source at all (I found that out just before my mobo messed up :/) nor do you have to use an external audio source. The FFsplit Overlay video source is alot more stable then using Dxtory or VHscrcap in my honest opinion. It will be done in 3-4 days.
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On June 26 2012 10:55 AeroEffect wrote:
I updated the guide abit but Im not able to do much atm as my desktop is messed up and the laptop im on is pretty bad and cuts off randomly (HP DV9000.... -__-).
When I get a new mobo for my desktop, I will do a complete reqwrite of the guide as it is not required to use an external video source at all (I found that out just before my mobo messed up :/) nor do you have to use an external audio source. The FFsplit Overlay video source is alot more stable then using Dxtory or VHscrcap in my honest opinion. It will be done in 3-4 days.
Hm, i might do a test with the FFsplit settings..
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I really like this programm.
Get such a high quality picture, but I've ran in some trouble.
I cant seem to get Audio and video synced. Audio just comes a little ahead.
And yea it sometimes randomly stops streaming.
Has audio sync question been asked somewhere?
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On June 26 2012 10:55 AeroEffect wrote:
I updated the guide abit but Im not able to do much atm as my desktop is messed up and the laptop im on is pretty bad and cuts off randomly (HP DV9000.... -__-).
When I get a new mobo for my desktop, I will do a complete reqwrite of the guide as it is not required to use an external video source at all (I found that out just before my mobo messed up :/) nor do you have to use an external audio source. The FFsplit Overlay video source is alot more stable then using Dxtory or VHscrcap in my honest opinion. It will be done in 3-4 days.
I couldn't get it to work at all with their capture source. I had to download vhscrcap just to get the stream to show up. Also lagged my computer more than xsplit while playing bf3.
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On June 26 2012 16:17 Rimak wrote:
I really like this programm.
Get such a high quality picture, but I've ran in some trouble.
I cant seem to get Audio and video synced. Audio just comes a little ahead.
And yea it sometimes randomly stops streaming.
Has audio sync question been asked somewhere?
That used to happen to me, but it somehow fixed itself. I think you need to have fps and set to the same on both your video recorder as well as FFsplit. Also try a different resolution and get back. Idk, I messed with a it a long time to fix it, but also try restarting your computer o.o
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On June 24 2012 13:50 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 12:53 taqattack wrote:On June 24 2012 11:35 Paroxysm wrote:
Does anyone know who actually made FFsplit? I'd like to contact them ^^ You can reach me on the IRC channel on the website. Oh dang, are you the creator of FFsplit? Edit: Update on my stream settings/ video incase anyone is curious as to quality. + Show Spoiler +
Ok I did a test with FFsplit Overlay 1.5 as the Video Source. You can compare it to my other video, using VHScrcap as source.
FFSplit Overlay 1.5
VHScrcap
IMO, I feel that FFsplit overlay 1.5 kind of pixellates more for those with low upload bandwidth. Could someone with high upload (3-5k kbps) test it and post stream?
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The last time i streamed with this i had little issues, except towards the end it started to get choppier and choppier for the last five or so minutes, before crashing finally and rebooting itself. Anyone know the issue here? Twitch.tv will cut the video off and then remake it in a separate smaller VOD, which really annoys me considering the VOD's should be one nice package. I can post settings if needed, so let me know.
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On June 27 2012 04:51 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 13:50 Flameling wrote:On June 24 2012 12:53 taqattack wrote:On June 24 2012 11:35 Paroxysm wrote:
Does anyone know who actually made FFsplit? I'd like to contact them ^^ You can reach me on the IRC channel on the website. Oh dang, are you the creator of FFsplit? Edit: Update on my stream settings/ video incase anyone is curious as to quality. + Show Spoiler + Ok I did a test with FFsplit Overlay 1.5 as the Video Source. You can compare it to my other video, using VHScrcap as source. FFSplit Overlay 1.5 VHScrcapIMO, I feel that FFsplit overlay 1.5 kind of pixellates more for those with low upload bandwidth. Could someone with high upload (3-5k kbps) test it and post stream?
You might want to try with FFsplit overlay 1.8, as that is the most recent version. I have no idea what the differences are from a programming standpoint, however, so it may make no difference. Also, in the overlay manager there is the little drop down box that lets you adjust the quality of the capture, which may have something to do with pixelation.
On June 27 2012 07:43 TheZanthex wrote:The last time i streamed with this i had little issues, except towards the end it started to get choppier and choppier for the last five or so minutes, before crashing finally and rebooting itself. Anyone know the issue here? Twitch.tv will cut the video off and then remake it in a separate smaller VOD, which really annoys me considering the VOD's should be one nice package. I can post settings if needed, so let me know.
Post your settings.
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On June 27 2012 09:35 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 04:51 Flameling wrote:On June 24 2012 13:50 Flameling wrote:On June 24 2012 12:53 taqattack wrote:On June 24 2012 11:35 Paroxysm wrote:
Does anyone know who actually made FFsplit? I'd like to contact them ^^ You can reach me on the IRC channel on the website. Oh dang, are you the creator of FFsplit? Edit: Update on my stream settings/ video incase anyone is curious as to quality. + Show Spoiler + Ok I did a test with FFsplit Overlay 1.5 as the Video Source. You can compare it to my other video, using VHScrcap as source. FFSplit Overlay 1.5 VHScrcapIMO, I feel that FFsplit overlay 1.5 kind of pixellates more for those with low upload bandwidth. Could someone with high upload (3-5k kbps) test it and post stream? You might want to try with FFsplit overlay 1.8, as that is the most recent version. I have no idea what the differences are from a programming standpoint, however, so it may make no difference. Also, in the overlay manager there is the little drop down box that lets you adjust the quality of the capture, which may have something to do with pixelation. Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 07:43 TheZanthex wrote:The last time i streamed with this i had little issues, except towards the end it started to get choppier and choppier for the last five or so minutes, before crashing finally and rebooting itself. Anyone know the issue here? Twitch.tv will cut the video off and then remake it in a separate smaller VOD, which really annoys me considering the VOD's should be one nice package. I can post settings if needed, so let me know. Post your settings.
Hmm I'll try it in a bit.
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Here are my settings, for whoever asked. :D
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/n4yvN.jpg)
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Just an optimisation of your settings, i would recommend knocking the resolution up to 704x480 and dropping the framerate to 25 or even 20. I'm not sure about what's happening with the stream getting choppy as your settings are very low..
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On June 27 2012 10:47 TheZanthex wrote:Here are my settings, for whoever asked. :D
Can you link a speedtest?
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Read through the thread but haven't seen anything about webcam support. Any info about that?
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Hello guys. I'm a div4 player in ETF2L of TF2 , and I would like to stream (not streaming, just record it) my matches. I run normall TF2 with 240 fps, but when I stream I get some fps drops, and a mouse delay, i mean like I lowered the sensitivity of the mouse or smth.
If u could help me to look what happens , I'd be totally pleasured :D
PD: The problem is only in disabled-aero mode, with aero enabled, this delay in the mouse doesn't exist.
Here's my config.
![[image loading]](http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc440/SquirryKnife/Screenshot-27_06_201214_09_36.jpg)
PD2: When I play with aero enabled, my game is kinda with fps drops as I told earlier, but...when I disable aero, I play totally smooth :D But...with unreal sensitivity.
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On June 27 2012 11:11 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 10:47 TheZanthex wrote:Here are my settings, for whoever asked. :D Can you link a speedtest?
Sure thing.
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2032424423.png)
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On June 27 2012 20:46 mrgoochio wrote:
Read through the thread but haven't seen anything about webcam support. Any info about that?
Not in just yet.
On June 28 2012 02:33 TheZanthex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 11:11 WTFZerg wrote:On June 27 2012 10:47 TheZanthex wrote:Here are my settings, for whoever asked. :D Can you link a speedtest? Sure thing.
Try dropping your FPS to 25. 1k kbps might not be enough to do 30, even at a low resolution.
On June 27 2012 21:10 Mockingjay wrote:Hello guys. I'm a div4 player in ETF2L of TF2 , and I would like to stream (not streaming, just record it) my matches. I run normall TF2 with 240 fps, but when I stream I get some fps drops, and a mouse delay, i mean like I lowered the sensitivity of the mouse or smth. If u could help me to look what happens , I'd be totally pleasured :D PD: The problem is only in disabled-aero mode, with aero enabled, this delay in the mouse doesn't exist. Here's my config. PD2: When I play with aero enabled, my game is kinda with fps drops as I told earlier, but...when I disable aero, I play totally smooth :D But...with unreal sensitivity.
What CPU are you running? In my experience streaming FPS games never works well because even with a boss machine you'll be seeing lower frames per second while streaming, which hurts a lot more in FPS than any other type of game.
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On June 28 2012 06:25 WTFZerg wrote:
Try dropping your FPS to 25. 1k kbps might not be enough to do 30, even at a low resolution.
Not true, I can do 30fps 768x432 stream using just 650kbps video and 96kbps stereo audio.
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On June 28 2012 09:13 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 06:25 WTFZerg wrote:
Try dropping your FPS to 25. 1k kbps might not be enough to do 30, even at a low resolution.
Not true, I can do 30fps 768x432 stream using just 650kbps video and 96kbps stereo audio.
What are your specs, though? 
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Hey I've got this all working on my stream fine, good quality, CPU handles it perfectly wow FFSplit is such a godsend
HOWEVER, When I go into Starcraft 2 it doesn't record the in game graphics apart from the mouse icon, everything else is just black. When I alt-tab into my desktop everything is fine though, there is probably a simple fix, any help?
I will try solve by myself but any assistance would be appreciated.
EDIT: NVM managed to get it working!
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On June 28 2012 11:34 TheZanthex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 09:13 Flameling wrote:On June 28 2012 06:25 WTFZerg wrote:
Try dropping your FPS to 25. 1k kbps might not be enough to do 30, even at a low resolution.
Not true, I can do 30fps 768x432 stream using just 650kbps video and 96kbps stereo audio. What are your specs, though?
Not that great ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/EdgN) with 960kbps maximum upload.
But I thought Zanthex's issue was with his stream being choppy, not his actual game being choppy?
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On June 28 2012 12:32 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 11:34 TheZanthex wrote:On June 28 2012 09:13 Flameling wrote:On June 28 2012 06:25 WTFZerg wrote:
Try dropping your FPS to 25. 1k kbps might not be enough to do 30, even at a low resolution.
Not true, I can do 30fps 768x432 stream using just 650kbps video and 96kbps stereo audio. What are your specs, though? Not that great with 960kbps maximum upload. But I thought Zanthex's issue was with his stream being choppy, not his actual game being choppy?
My stream is choppy, somewhat. But, my game doesn't lag too badly to influence play too badly.
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Ok so guys I am getting some really annoying black flickering on my screen, it is worse at 30FPS than 10FPS so its clearly an FPS thing, any ideas on how to solve? Or do I just have to bring the FPS wayyyyyyy down?
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On June 28 2012 12:55 ThatGuyDoMo wrote:
Ok so guys I am getting some really annoying black flickering on my screen, it is worse at 30FPS than 10FPS so its clearly an FPS thing, any ideas on how to solve? Or do I just have to bring the FPS wayyyyyyy down?
Is your game running in full-screen mode?
If so, change it to a windowed or full-screen windowed mode.
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Ok, thanks, I will see how that goes.
EDIT:OMG THANKYOU SO MUCH!!!!
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Can't wait to get home from vacation and try to get back into streaming/casting with this! great guide and thanks for the info
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Someone familiar with this error?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oXKD8.png)
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I think you set up your VHScrCap up wrong, try setting it up again.
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My audio is out of sync using default playback device. Anyone else with the issue?
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On June 29 2012 10:02 akskiller wrote:
My audio is out of sync using default playback device. Anyone else with the issue?
Restart FFsplit and test again, usually works for me
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On June 29 2012 10:39 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 10:02 akskiller wrote:
My audio is out of sync using default playback device. Anyone else with the issue? Restart FFsplit and test again, usually works for me
Didnt work. Audio comes before whatever happens on stream.
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On June 29 2012 04:40 Josh_rakoons wrote:
I think you set up your VHScrCap up wrong, try setting it up again.
Okay, thank you I'll try it when I am at home.
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Can anyone tell me what's the Video bit rate I should use if I want to stream at 720p with 25 FPS?
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2036306362.png)
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On June 30 2012 04:01 IIMARCII wrote:Can anyone tell me what's the Video bit rate I should use if I want to stream at 720p with 25 FPS?
i'd say around 1200
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This program is weird. Sometimes when I go live its not even live and is live only for 40 seconds even though the debug console sas its live still and when I stop it gives me an error that audio crashed or whatever. I like it better than xsplit because I get more frames ingame when going live and dont lose 10 fps like xsplit.
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As of 0.3.5.6 Java is no longer required.
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Oh, well, I guess they don't use your stuff anymore.
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Yeah, but they could at least give me some credit for using it for a while, you know.
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Actually they tried to get in contact with you.
But the point is moot now.
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When streaming with overlay 1.9 and Default Playback Device I encounter some minor problems.
First off, when units get out on the field, my FPS tends to drop to 10 or even below, the game is unplayable at that point. Could that be that my graphics card (GeForce 8800 GTS) cannot handle this or could I tweak it with a setting, as without streaming (unless it is 150+ Zerglings on the screen) my FPS is around 40-80, depending on how many units are there. I have:
- Q6600 Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz
- 6gb RAM
so, I doubt that those two can cause such severe problems, the only problem left is my graphics card
Further on, audio goes off sync by a lot is there any way to fix this manually?
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2046041993.png)
This is my speedtest to my provider, I am currently streaming at 300 bit rate and 768x432 resolution, 128 audio bit rate and 30 fps. Any help is appreciated.
http://www.twitch.tv/ysnake/b/323772520
I am more than happy with the quality, beforehand, I could only stream in episodes, literally. This is pure awesomeness, but if I could get those small problems go away, I'd be on a white horse blowing a penguin.
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On July 06 2012 02:57 ysnake wrote:+ Show Spoiler +When streaming with overlay 1.9 and Default Playback Device I encounter some minor problems. First off, when units get out on the field, my FPS tends to drop to 10 or even below, the game is unplayable at that point. Could that be that my graphics card (GeForce 8800 GTS) cannot handle this or could I tweak it with a setting, as without streaming (unless it is 150+ Zerglings on the screen) my FPS is around 40-80, depending on how many units are there. I have: - Q6600 Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz - 6gb RAM so, I doubt that those two can cause such severe problems, the only problem left is my graphics card Further on, audio goes off sync by a lot is there any way to fix this manually? This is my speedtest to my provider, I am currently streaming at 300 bit rate and 768x432 resolution, 128 audio bit rate and 30 fps. Any help is appreciated. http://www.twitch.tv/ysnake/b/323772520I am more than happy with the quality, beforehand, I could only stream in episodes, literally. This is pure awesomeness, but if I could get those small problems go away, I'd be on a white horse blowing a penguin.
For stream quality settings, I would probably drop the audio bitrate to 96 if you're streaming with such low upload. Also is your cpu overclocked or not? I think streaming with FFsplit is too demanding for 2.4ghz quad core, as i'm sitting at around 3.0ghz and streaming at the same resolution on low settings in sc2, and it brings my fps way down.
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On July 06 2012 02:57 ysnake wrote:When streaming with overlay 1.9 and Default Playback Device I encounter some minor problems. First off, when units get out on the field, my FPS tends to drop to 10 or even below, the game is unplayable at that point. Could that be that my graphics card (GeForce 8800 GTS) cannot handle this or could I tweak it with a setting, as without streaming (unless it is 150+ Zerglings on the screen) my FPS is around 40-80, depending on how many units are there. I have: - Q6600 Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz - 6gb RAM so, I doubt that those two can cause such severe problems, the only problem left is my graphics card Further on, audio goes off sync by a lot is there any way to fix this manually? This is my speedtest to my provider, I am currently streaming at 300 bit rate and 768x432 resolution, 128 audio bit rate and 30 fps. Any help is appreciated. http://www.twitch.tv/ysnake/b/323772520I am more than happy with the quality, beforehand, I could only stream in episodes, literally. This is pure awesomeness, but if I could get those small problems go away, I'd be on a white horse blowing a penguin.
Your CPU is going to have an extremely hard time with streaming as it lacks the power to encode video while playing without a pretty significant drop in performance. The GFX card has no effect on your ability to stream, nor does your memory.
If you can overclock your CPU I would highly recommend it.
I would also recommend dropping the FPS down to 25, and as flameling said, dropping your audio bit rate, as you're being severely limited by both your CPU and internet connection.
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Thank you for the replies, my CPU is not overclocked but I will try with the settings you have mentioned, or even overclock my CPU. I thought streaming does not put that much strain on the CPU, guess I was wrong. Thanks for telling me about the GFX card, as some people have suggested that it is because my GFX is quite bad compared to high-end cards at the moment. I will tweak the settings and let you know the outcome, thank you again
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Bumpity bumpaloo.
First of all, thank you all for suggestions as the game can be a bit laggy (when shitton of Zerglings are around), but it is manageable. The streaming quality is superb, although, there are some minor problems that are constantly present.
- First off, and the most annoying part is randomly stopping to stream.
http://www.twitch.tv/ysnake
As you can see, some videos are 10mins long, some are 2+ hours. The console does not show any error whatsoever and continues with its usual frame-rate, etc etc, but there is nothing being streamed.
- Second of all, FFSplit can sometimes CONSTANTLY crash (I have Windows 64bit, 6gb RAM, GeForce 8800 and plenty of free space on disk, just throwing the info out there, in case any of those cause it to crash). It crashes upon starting to stream. Here is a picture of it crashing. Sometimes, I'd have to run the program 10+ times to actually start streaming.
http://postimage.org/image/z3fgp69rp/
- Failing to start the stream can also occur, and when paired with FFsplit constantly crashing, it gets annoying, sometimes it takes up to 15mins just to start streaming (to be randomly stopped). Here is a picture of that error
http://postimage.org/image/4n91k4fe1/
- Audio randomly crashing while streaming, this also occurs from time to time and I do not use a Microphone. You can see my settings on the second screenshot. I have done the changing the comma to a dot and I have all the programs that are listed on the FFsplit website.
- Lastly, this is not a complaint, I am rather pointing out some problems with this amazing program and I am looking for solutions to these problems. Thank you in advance.
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Yeah, it's not very stable. I got ahold of the new experimental beta and it's more stable that 0.3.5.9. Just wait for it.
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You should probably head out to the ffsplit forums and have a look around, as there are people having similar issues. There's also an irc channel dedicated to support.
www.ffsplit.com
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Apparently, they have fixed many of the issues I have been having with the new update. Just throwing this out for those who want to try this awesome program. If you are running into some problems, you either did not follow the steps given on their website correctly, did not download a needed program or you have missed something in the setup.
It still occasionally stops to stream without a warning or error, but much, much less frequently, also, for those who want to try it out, remember to run it as administrator. It is just an awesome streaming program.
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Where does the "save file" go when it saves?
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this doesnt work for me , and i have no other program i can use like its set up right it says its streaming but when i look at stream its black for about 5 seconds then just goes offline, please help
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On July 10 2012 16:23 tinyteddy wrote:
this doesnt work for me , and i have no other program i can use like its set up right it says its streaming but when i look at stream its black for about 5 seconds then just goes offline, please help
What are your settings? Your speed? Are you running it as administrator?
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I endorse this setup as there is pretty much zero impact on games. Zero FPS drop and almost no strain put on CPU. I haven't tried to set up an overlay or anything though, so I don't know if thats tough or not.
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On July 10 2012 05:30 Lineridarz wrote:
Where does the "save file" go when it saves?
Into the FFsplit directory.
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On June 17 2012 12:22 LgNKami wrote:
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3. If you scroll down a bit on the download page (from the link that was posted in step 1), there is a list of screen capture programs that you can download. In this guide, I cam going to be using VHScreenCap4. Download and install it.
4. Once VHScreenCap4 is installed, go to your start menu. There should be a newly highlighted program there with a camera named Config. Open it.
Can't find this program on the page. Where can I find it?
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On July 10 2012 19:15 sickkungen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 12:22 LgNKami wrote:
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3. If you scroll down a bit on the download page (from the link that was posted in step 1), there is a list of screen capture programs that you can download. In this guide, I cam going to be using VHScreenCap4. Download and install it.
4. Once VHScreenCap4 is installed, go to your start menu. There should be a newly highlighted program there with a camera named Config. Open it.
Can't find this program on the page. Where can I find it?
lol it seems like they took it off. I'm guessing they want people to use their built in video source, the FFsplit overlay.
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On July 10 2012 19:15 sickkungen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 12:22 LgNKami wrote:
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3. If you scroll down a bit on the download page (from the link that was posted in step 1), there is a list of screen capture programs that you can download. In this guide, I cam going to be using VHScreenCap4. Download and install it.
4. Once VHScreenCap4 is installed, go to your start menu. There should be a newly highlighted program there with a camera named Config. Open it.
Can't find this program on the page. Where can I find it?
VHScrCap is no longer on the FFsplit webpage.
FFsplit has its own capture system, and as such VHScrCap is no longer needed.
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On July 10 2012 20:01 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 19:15 sickkungen wrote:On June 17 2012 12:22 LgNKami wrote:
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3. If you scroll down a bit on the download page (from the link that was posted in step 1), there is a list of screen capture programs that you can download. In this guide, I cam going to be using VHScreenCap4. Download and install it.
4. Once VHScreenCap4 is installed, go to your start menu. There should be a newly highlighted program there with a camera named Config. Open it.
Can't find this program on the page. Where can I find it? VHScrCap is no longer on the FFsplit webpage. FFsplit has its own capture system, and as such VHScrCap is no longer needed.
So how do I set up stream using FFsplit capture system?
I keep getting error message "handshake failed "Operation not permitted" "Stream stopped" when I try to initialize my stream using this command: rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/live_(insert my key here).
EDIT: I got an established connection with justin.tv but now I got this error instead: http://tinypic.com/r/3520pxu/6
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On July 10 2012 22:41 sickkungen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 20:01 WTFZerg wrote:On July 10 2012 19:15 sickkungen wrote:On June 17 2012 12:22 LgNKami wrote:
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3. If you scroll down a bit on the download page (from the link that was posted in step 1), there is a list of screen capture programs that you can download. In this guide, I cam going to be using VHScreenCap4. Download and install it.
4. Once VHScreenCap4 is installed, go to your start menu. There should be a newly highlighted program there with a camera named Config. Open it.
Can't find this program on the page. Where can I find it? VHScrCap is no longer on the FFsplit webpage. FFsplit has its own capture system, and as such VHScrCap is no longer needed. So how do I set up stream using FFsplit capture system? I keep getting error message "handshake failed "Operation not permitted" "Stream stopped" when I try to initialize my stream using this command: rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/live_(insert my key here). EDIT: I got an established connection with justin.tv but now I got this error instead: http://tinypic.com/r/3520pxu/6
Looks like an RTMP issue.
Try one of their other servers.
http://support.twitch.tv/discussion/62/proxy-server-listing
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My audio keeps looping any way to fix this???
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Sigh. Same problem I have with every other streaming program T_T. My framerate in game stays the same (about 90). However, there is a noticeable difference in the way it feels. The game feels laggier, almost like it stutters when i move the camera around. The task manager shows my CPU utilization at 40-60 percent while streaming. Doesn't matter wheter I stream at 1280x720 or lower like 800x600, still the same problem. Framerate display in game does not change, though.
I have an AMD Phenom II x4 965 @ 3.8ghz
Anyone else experience the same type of problem and know any way to fix it? Thanks :D
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On July 10 2012 23:52 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 22:41 sickkungen wrote:On July 10 2012 20:01 WTFZerg wrote:On July 10 2012 19:15 sickkungen wrote:On June 17 2012 12:22 LgNKami wrote:
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3. If you scroll down a bit on the download page (from the link that was posted in step 1), there is a list of screen capture programs that you can download. In this guide, I cam going to be using VHScreenCap4. Download and install it.
4. Once VHScreenCap4 is installed, go to your start menu. There should be a newly highlighted program there with a camera named Config. Open it.
Can't find this program on the page. Where can I find it? VHScrCap is no longer on the FFsplit webpage. FFsplit has its own capture system, and as such VHScrCap is no longer needed. So how do I set up stream using FFsplit capture system? I keep getting error message "handshake failed "Operation not permitted" "Stream stopped" when I try to initialize my stream using this command: rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/live_(insert my key here). EDIT: I got an established connection with justin.tv but now I got this error instead: http://tinypic.com/r/3520pxu/6 Looks like an RTMP issue. Try one of their other servers. http://support.twitch.tv/discussion/62/proxy-server-listing
Not working :/
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On July 11 2012 10:22 Kaladin wrote:
Sigh. Same problem I have with every other streaming program T_T. My framerate in game stays the same (about 90). However, there is a noticeable difference in the way it feels. The game feels laggier, almost like it stutters when i move the camera around. The task manager shows my CPU utilization at 40-60 percent while streaming. Doesn't matter wheter I stream at 1280x720 or lower like 800x600, still the same problem. Framerate display in game does not change, though.
I have an AMD Phenom II x4 965 @ 3.8ghz
Anyone else experience the same type of problem and know any way to fix it? Thanks :D
Are you playing in windowed/borderless mode? Fullscreen mode and streaming do not play well together in a lot of games.
I highly suggest everyone having issues head out to the FFsplit site, as there are dedicated support forums and a support IRC channel.
On July 11 2012 12:53 sickkungen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2012 23:52 WTFZerg wrote:On July 10 2012 22:41 sickkungen wrote:On July 10 2012 20:01 WTFZerg wrote:On July 10 2012 19:15 sickkungen wrote:On June 17 2012 12:22 LgNKami wrote:
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3. If you scroll down a bit on the download page (from the link that was posted in step 1), there is a list of screen capture programs that you can download. In this guide, I cam going to be using VHScreenCap4. Download and install it.
4. Once VHScreenCap4 is installed, go to your start menu. There should be a newly highlighted program there with a camera named Config. Open it.
Can't find this program on the page. Where can I find it? VHScrCap is no longer on the FFsplit webpage. FFsplit has its own capture system, and as such VHScrCap is no longer needed. So how do I set up stream using FFsplit capture system? I keep getting error message "handshake failed "Operation not permitted" "Stream stopped" when I try to initialize my stream using this command: rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/live_(insert my key here). EDIT: I got an established connection with justin.tv but now I got this error instead: http://tinypic.com/r/3520pxu/6 Looks like an RTMP issue. Try one of their other servers. http://support.twitch.tv/discussion/62/proxy-server-listing Not working :/
I was able to recreate that error by incorrectly entering my stream key. Make sure you're entering yours correctly.
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I've tried it minutes ago and it seems not to be very stable.
1. I downloaded the current version (3.5.6), after installing it now it wants to update it but it dont work. It says FFsplit.zip not found.
2. When I Stream with FFsplit it seems like it crashes after some minutes but not telling me anything, not in the Debug Console and not via Error Message. I only notice it in my twitch dashboard. Only sometimes i get a error message when Win 7 trys to fix the "problem"
anyone else has this problems and know how to fix it?
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On July 11 2012 10:22 Kaladin wrote:
Sigh. Same problem I have with every other streaming program T_T. My framerate in game stays the same (about 90). However, there is a noticeable difference in the way it feels. The game feels laggier, almost like it stutters when i move the camera around. The task manager shows my CPU utilization at 40-60 percent while streaming. Doesn't matter wheter I stream at 1280x720 or lower like 800x600, still the same problem. Framerate display in game does not change, though.
I have an AMD Phenom II x4 965 @ 3.8ghz
Anyone else experience the same type of problem and know any way to fix it? Thanks :D
You will always feel a small difference when not streaming and when streaming, I feel it especially when there are a lot of units on the field and when a huge battle is about to take place, sometimes, it gets to the point where I can't micro properly because of it, but that is because of my shitty CPU.
Try tweaking the settings a bit, lowering bitrates, lowering resolution and try to shut down all programs that you don't need in the background (I found that Skype made my lag like a bitch)
On July 11 2012 20:57 ESCViper wrote:
I've tried it minutes ago and it seems not to be very stable.
1. I downloaded the current version (3.5.6), after installing it now it wants to update it but it dont work. It says FFsplit.zip not found.
2. When I Stream with FFsplit it seems like it crashes after some minutes but not telling me anything, not in the Debug Console and not via Error Message. I only notice it in my twitch dashboard. Only sometimes i get a error message when Win 7 trys to fix the "problem"
anyone else has this problems and know how to fix it?
1. The current version is 3.5.10, try reinstalling, as I do not know what can cause this problem.
2. You NEED to run FFsplit as administrator, right click and run as admin, if you don't see that option, go properties-compatibility-check Run as Administrator under Privileges. You will get some crashes from time to time, but it is manageable, every little while I alt-tab and check if I am still streaming (if you play LoL, you can tab whenever you die, or between matches in SC2). http://www.twitch.tv/ysnake, after I've done all the steps required, you can see my videos, all are 4+ hours long or the ones that aren't are just the ones I played that long, hell, I even streamed replying to this thread. Again, if the FFsplit keeps crashing, you either do not have certain programs that you need, your settings are beyond what your computer/connection can handle, you are not running it as you are supposed to, or you have other programs taking memory from streaming (having a huge hangover atm, so if it sounds unclear, I apologize).
Program needs some playing around with, but I found it WAY WAY WAY better than Xsplit.
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Hi guys
I need some help - the quality that this program puts out is great but it causes a huge spike in latency, and I don't know why. My computer can handle streaming, and I have had no problems streaming with xsplit. My settings are:
Video Source: CHScrCap
Video Bit Rate: 2500
Encode Preset: Fast
Video Resolution: 1280x1024
Frame Rate: 30
Audio Bit Rate: 256 Mono
Here is the vod of my latency, it's very hard to play with (Skip to 2 minutes)
If anyone can help me that would be great :D
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On July 12 2012 10:25 -AtRi- wrote:Hi guys I need some help - the quality that this program puts out is great but it causes a huge spike in latency, and I don't know why. My computer can handle streaming, and I have had no problems streaming with xsplit. My settings are: Video Source: CHScrCap Video Bit Rate: 2500 Encode Preset: Fast Video Resolution: 1280x1024 Frame Rate: 30 Audio Bit Rate: 256 Mono Here is the vod of my latency, it's very hard to play with (Skip to 2 minutes) If anyone can help me that would be great :D
What is your Upload speed?
http://speedtest.net/
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Is it possible to add webcam to this program?
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On July 12 2012 23:09 sickkungen wrote:
Is it possible to add webcam to this program?
As far as I know, not yet.
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On July 12 2012 23:09 sickkungen wrote:
Is it possible to add webcam to this program?
not yet
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On July 12 2012 18:31 ysnake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 10:25 -AtRi- wrote:Hi guys I need some help - the quality that this program puts out is great but it causes a huge spike in latency, and I don't know why. My computer can handle streaming, and I have had no problems streaming with xsplit. My settings are: Video Source: CHScrCap Video Bit Rate: 2500 Encode Preset: Fast Video Resolution: 1280x1024 Frame Rate: 30 Audio Bit Rate: 256 Mono Here is the vod of my latency, it's very hard to play with (Skip to 2 minutes) If anyone can help me that would be great :D What is your Upload speed? http://speedtest.net/
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On July 13 2012 00:05 -AtRi- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 18:31 ysnake wrote:On July 12 2012 10:25 -AtRi- wrote:Hi guys I need some help - the quality that this program puts out is great but it causes a huge spike in latency, and I don't know why. My computer can handle streaming, and I have had no problems streaming with xsplit. My settings are: Video Source: CHScrCap Video Bit Rate: 2500 Encode Preset: Fast Video Resolution: 1280x1024 Frame Rate: 30 Audio Bit Rate: 256 Mono Here is the vod of my latency, it's very hard to play with (Skip to 2 minutes) If anyone can help me that would be great :D What is your Upload speed? http://speedtest.net/
Use Xsplit overlay 1.9
What are your pc specs?
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On July 13 2012 00:17 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 00:05 -AtRi- wrote:On July 12 2012 18:31 ysnake wrote:On July 12 2012 10:25 -AtRi- wrote:Hi guys I need some help - the quality that this program puts out is great but it causes a huge spike in latency, and I don't know why. My computer can handle streaming, and I have had no problems streaming with xsplit. My settings are: Video Source: CHScrCap Video Bit Rate: 2500 Encode Preset: Fast Video Resolution: 1280x1024 Frame Rate: 30 Audio Bit Rate: 256 Mono Here is the vod of my latency, it's very hard to play with (Skip to 2 minutes) If anyone can help me that would be great :D What is your Upload speed? http://speedtest.net/ Use Xsplit overlay 1.9 What are your pc specs?
What is Xsplit overlay 1.9?
i5 2500k OC'ed to 4.0ghz
Nvidia Geforce 560 ti
8gb ram
windows 7
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On July 13 2012 00:21 -AtRi- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 00:17 LgNKami wrote:On July 13 2012 00:05 -AtRi- wrote:On July 12 2012 18:31 ysnake wrote:On July 12 2012 10:25 -AtRi- wrote:Hi guys I need some help - the quality that this program puts out is great but it causes a huge spike in latency, and I don't know why. My computer can handle streaming, and I have had no problems streaming with xsplit. My settings are: Video Source: CHScrCap Video Bit Rate: 2500 Encode Preset: Fast Video Resolution: 1280x1024 Frame Rate: 30 Audio Bit Rate: 256 Mono Here is the vod of my latency, it's very hard to play with (Skip to 2 minutes) If anyone can help me that would be great :D What is your Upload speed? http://speedtest.net/ Use Xsplit overlay 1.9 What are your pc specs? What is Xsplit overlay 1.9? i5 2500k OC'ed to 4.0ghz Nvidia Geforce 560 ti 8gb ram windows 7
You should be able to stream without a problem.
I think he meant to say FFsplit overlay, in your FFsplit settings, you should choose that overlay, as FFsplit is not 100% compatible with other video sources. If you are lagging, what did you set your bitrate to? Remember, it should be around 70-75% of your upload speed. I think with that upload speed, you should have no problem going with 1500
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On July 13 2012 00:25 ysnake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 00:21 -AtRi- wrote:On July 13 2012 00:17 LgNKami wrote:On July 13 2012 00:05 -AtRi- wrote:On July 12 2012 18:31 ysnake wrote:On July 12 2012 10:25 -AtRi- wrote:Hi guys I need some help - the quality that this program puts out is great but it causes a huge spike in latency, and I don't know why. My computer can handle streaming, and I have had no problems streaming with xsplit. My settings are: Video Source: CHScrCap Video Bit Rate: 2500 Encode Preset: Fast Video Resolution: 1280x1024 Frame Rate: 30 Audio Bit Rate: 256 Mono Here is the vod of my latency, it's very hard to play with (Skip to 2 minutes) If anyone can help me that would be great :D What is your Upload speed? http://speedtest.net/ Use Xsplit overlay 1.9 What are your pc specs? What is Xsplit overlay 1.9? i5 2500k OC'ed to 4.0ghz Nvidia Geforce 560 ti 8gb ram windows 7 You should be able to stream without a problem. I think he meant to say FFsplit overlay, in your FFsplit settings, you should choose that overlay, as FFsplit is not 100% compatible with other video sources. If you are lagging, what did you set your bitrate to? Remember, it should be around 70-75% of your upload speed. I think with that upload speed, you should have no problem going with 1500
If you set your bitrate higher than what is needed, it will improve the quality only to up to a point (depending on the res you're streaming in). With 1280x1024, you only need between 1500-2000. Try that out and see what you get.
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I keep getting this error with the installer
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With the new patch i'm now having 0 problems, just a few things to add and i'm fully satisfied.
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On July 13 2012 09:08 Raccoon wrote:I keep getting this error with the installer
Have you tried redownloading the file?
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k, im using this ffsplit and got it setup. However, there are no scene switchers? (for out-of-game and in-game overlays)
Also is there no way to adjust the added images size without manually changing each image in PS?
Because im noob can you explain why ffsplit is better than xsplit other than the better audio quality we get?
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On July 16 2012 12:33 NMx.StyX wrote:
k, im using this ffsplit and got it setup. However, there are no scene switchers? (for out-of-game and in-game overlays)
Also is there no way to adjust the added images size without manually changing each image in PS?
Because im noob can you explain why ffsplit is better than xsplit other than the better audio quality we get?
its still beta and full release isn't even close. They are working out kinks in the program before they add scene switches etc. FF split will take less resources from what i encountered.
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On July 16 2012 12:33 NMx.StyX wrote:
k, im using this ffsplit and got it setup. However, there are no scene switchers? (for out-of-game and in-game overlays)
Also is there no way to adjust the added images size without manually changing each image in PS?
Because im noob can you explain why ffsplit is better than xsplit other than the better audio quality we get?
FFsplit in its current stage is for basic streaming. Maybe in the later beta stages you will be able to use FFsplit with all the extra stuff that xsplit allows but until then, people who like the extras should stick with xsplit.
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The better quality i can get with FFsplit is unreal, i'm streaming HD using 600bitrate, so much more crisp than xsplit, however i notice that my stream just dies and i can't figure out why. It also takes awhile to load onto twitch.tv
current setting with 1upload speed and i5 2400 with ati hd 5850 and 8gb ram
bit rate: 600
encode preset: fast
video resolution: 720p
Frame Rate: 29.97
Audio bit rate: 96
Audio Channels: Stereo
If i notice some ingame lag, what settings do you suggest i tweak.
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On July 16 2012 14:48 NMx.StyX wrote:
The better quality i can get with FFsplit is unreal, i'm streaming HD using 600bitrate, so much more crisp than xsplit, however i notice that my stream just dies and i can't figure out why. It also takes awhile to load onto twitch.tv
current setting with 1upload speed and i5 2400 with ati hd 5850 and 8gb ram
bit rate: 600
encode preset: fast
video resolution: 720p
Frame Rate: 29.97
Audio bit rate: 96
Audio Channels: Stereo
If i notice some ingame lag, what settings do you suggest i tweak.
It dies if your bitrate isn't stable. Have the debug console open when you're testing your stream, and it usually dies when u see the the bitrate go constant. Thoguh, the only times that it has happened to me are in cases where my internet is lagging or something. By ingame lag, do you mean input lag or fps lag?
also, can you post a link to your stream?
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stream link is http://www.twitch.tv/NMxStyX
check my vods, i've tried many times and it justs cuts off, however the quality is so sexy
i've been testinig and i think my bitrate isn't stable... 600bitrate with 96 onaudio = 700
and at 30fps and 720p i don't think its handling it well,.
ingame lag i mean input lag, game delay. I click on something and it takes longer to process,
myingame fps is prettystable at 60fps but i do feel some ingame lag here n there but the main problem is my stream that dies.
Using faster preset now as sc2 + ffsplit makes my cpu go up to 80%
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So when you start streaming, what's your upload at in the debug console? Is it a stable ~650-700?
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when i start streaming the first few lines spike up to 3k bitrate but quickl stable to 650-700
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Can you screenshot your debug console when your stream crashes?
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Well, I've had this problem a couple of times, but usually it's really random. Like, some days it'll happen, but then other days it'll be completely fine. I don't really have a sound solution to this other than just messing with your bitrate and testing it over and over (worked for me eventually).
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ahh that sucks.. not surprised since i doubt its anywhere close to being in its final stage.
Thanks for trying anyway.
Whats intial settings did you use and what did you end up using after testing?
should i reduce from 30fps to 25fps and go below 720p?
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On July 16 2012 19:05 NMx.StyX wrote:
ahh that sucks.. not surprised since i doubt its anywhere close to being in its final stage.
Thanks for trying anyway.
Whats intial settings did you use and what did you end up using after testing?
should i reduce from 30fps to 25fps and go below 720p?
720p @ 30fps with 600kbps bitrate will look nice while you're not doing anything, but the it will start to pixelate. I stream sometimes using my cell phones 4g connection ("unlimited data" -_-) and I can only do 480p at a stable rate with 1mb upload.
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On July 16 2012 19:05 NMx.StyX wrote:
ahh that sucks.. not surprised since i doubt its anywhere close to being in its final stage.
Thanks for trying anyway.
Whats intial settings did you use and what did you end up using after testing?
should i reduce from 30fps to 25fps and go below 720p?
Here are the settings that I use.
+ Show Spoiler +
Along with a vod of my stream
http://www.twitch.tv/flameling/b/324747631
I think it's possible to go up to 1088x612 resolution using this bandwidth, but I can't because my computer sucks too much x_x.
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hmm, I just started using it, though It seems to randomly shut my stream off. Like FFsplit will still be using the processing power, but the stream won't be translating to twitch.
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On July 17 2012 06:40 masterbreti wrote:
hmm, I just started using it, though It seems to randomly shut my stream off. Like FFsplit will still be using the processing power, but the stream won't be translating to twitch.
Just keep dropping your bitrate and testing it.
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ive been testing 480 and 1088x612, i'm stable on 612 on xsplit but not ffsplit, rather than me i think its ffsplit, ill wait till they patch it again. Does higher fps mean more bitrate used? what would happen if i up the fps high
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Is ffsplit compatible with hardware encoder of Avermedia Live Gamer HD?
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is there a way to not have it drop randomly when your bitrate goes below what you have put in the upload section.
I had mine at 600 and after testing why it stopped streaming randomly, but my bitrate is always changing, somtimes its more, sometimes its less, but apperently that doesn't suit well for FFsplit.
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i cant seem to stream, and i got this, how can i solve it?![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/59Cf0.png)
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Well, I just read through the whole thread before trying this. I can live without the cam support for the time being, but if this software is still dropping out regularly then it's basically dead to me. Nobody can host a stream and expect people to put up with it going dead. The viewers won't know what happened and they will leave; you'll never build a following and you'll have sunk all this time into a stream that just doesn't cut it for the simple standards that people have as a stream viewer. Standards which are being met by every other players stream, and which all the other software seems to deliver fine on.
That said, I'm off to try this out because the software sounds pretty great aside from that one glaring issue
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Wow, thanks for the Guide, im going to set this up. Sounds like FPS is better with ffsplit, and the audio increase will be great! ty
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Kami, I don't know how advanced you are with computers, but do you see any feasible way you could create a mac version of FFsplit?
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On July 20 2012 16:22 SilenceSoul wrote:i cant seem to stream, and i got this, how can i solve it?
seems like your stream link is wrong
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How much upload speed do I need to stream with this program with acceptable quality without sacrificing performance in sc2?
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On July 21 2012 00:46 Lumi wrote:Well, I just read through the whole thread before trying this. I can live without the cam support for the time being, but if this software is still dropping out regularly then it's basically dead to me. Nobody can host a stream and expect people to put up with it going dead. The viewers won't know what happened and they will leave; you'll never build a following and you'll have sunk all this time into a stream that just doesn't cut it for the simple standards that people have as a stream viewer. Standards which are being met by every other players stream, and which all the other software seems to deliver fine on. That said, I'm off to try this out because the software sounds pretty great aside from that one glaring issue
Next version fixes the stream dying issues.
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On July 21 2012 04:04 Flameling wrote:seems like your stream link is wrong
I'm getting the same error, the stream link is not wrong.
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im able to stream using xplit with the link though.
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go read the tutorial? just a thought but reading can never be good right? or is it..
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K so my report is that FFSplit is amazing and I'll probably use it forever. Completely smitten and they are developing it pretty rapidly. A lot of xsplit premium customers are about to feel their money wasted, methinks.
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On July 23 2012 04:46 Lumi wrote:
K so my report is that FFSplit is amazing and I'll probably use it forever. Completely smitten and they are developing it pretty rapidly. A lot of xsplit premium customers are about to feel their money wasted, methinks.
If you just want to click a few buttons and have a livestream, then sure, i guess you could view xsplit as being wasted money. For more advanced users though, not the case
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holy crap the new update is so sick, can now stream at 60fps!!!!
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what does a higher frame rate require? more bandwidth? bitrate?
i tried 60fps, my game lags with my limited upload speed
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On July 23 2012 12:35 NMx.StyX wrote:
what does a higher frame rate require? more bandwidth? bitrate?
i tried 60fps, my game lags with my limited upload speed
CPU, probably bottlenecking
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Ok so as many Xsplit users know Xsplit and AMD are having issues with 7850+ cards where drivers fail xsplit crashes. You just saved my life, this program owns!
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On July 23 2012 12:35 NMx.StyX wrote:
what does a higher frame rate require? more bandwidth? bitrate?
i tried 60fps, my game lags with my limited upload speed
It puts a much greater strain on your CPU.
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oh ic, well with my i5 2400 and hd 5850, whats a good comfortable fps i'd be able to stream at?
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On July 23 2012 13:59 NMx.StyX wrote:
oh ic, well with my i5 2400 and hd 5850, whats a good comfortable fps i'd be able to stream at?
25-30
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On July 23 2012 15:01 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 13:59 NMx.StyX wrote:
oh ic, well with my i5 2400 and hd 5850, whats a good comfortable fps i'd be able to stream at? 25-30
maybe 45 if he streams at 720p
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With the new update I've set it mine to stream at 1280x720, 45 fps frame rate. My stream seems to freeze every 5-10 seconds. The audio and video stops and skips. What should I do to fix this?
I have an i5-2500k, gtx 560 ti for reference.
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On July 23 2012 15:12 Lineridarz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 15:01 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On July 23 2012 13:59 NMx.StyX wrote:
oh ic, well with my i5 2400 and hd 5850, whats a good comfortable fps i'd be able to stream at? 25-30 maybe 45 if he streams at 720p
im streaming at 1088x612
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mine stops streaming after like 2 minutes and my games show up as black :/
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On July 21 2012 02:31 DG.Zeya wrote:
Kami, I don't know how advanced you are with computers, but do you see any feasible way you could create a mac version of FFsplit?
Sorry to say but i'm not the developer of FFsplit, i'm just passing on info and my experiences with the program. There may be something in the works though. I have a link in the OP in which you can use to contact the Programmers of FFsplit if you would like to ask them about it.
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On July 23 2012 15:56 Leeto wrote:
With the new update I've set it mine to stream at 1280x720, 45 fps frame rate. My stream seems to freeze every 5-10 seconds. The audio and video stops and skips. What should I do to fix this?
I have an i5-2500k, gtx 560 ti for reference.
heyo, what's the bitrate that you're using?
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I can now stream 1080p @ 60fps while still getting 60+fps ingame. Bouse.
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On July 23 2012 23:31 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 15:56 Leeto wrote:
With the new update I've set it mine to stream at 1280x720, 45 fps frame rate. My stream seems to freeze every 5-10 seconds. The audio and video stops and skips. What should I do to fix this?
I have an i5-2500k, gtx 560 ti for reference. heyo, what's the bitrate that you're using?
I'm using 1000 kbps bit rate, since my upload speed is around 1.5 mbps.
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On July 23 2012 23:33 Lineridarz wrote:
I can now stream 1080p @ 60fps while still getting 60+fps ingame. Bouse.
I can do it with >200fps ingame using a 2009 CPU and Xsplit, 60 earlygame is nothing special and will quickly deteriorate to unplayability
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On July 24 2012 01:48 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 23:33 Lineridarz wrote:
I can now stream 1080p @ 60fps while still getting 60+fps ingame. Bouse. I can do it with >200fps ingame using a 2009 CPU and Xsplit, 60 earlygame is nothing special and will quickly deteriorate to unplayability
I get 30fps in lategame engagements, which is perfectly normal and fine, also your computer was probably 4x more expensive than mine.. so have fun with that.... Also there's absolutely no difference between 200 fps and 60 unless you're using a 120hz monitor. Also i still doubt you can actually do it.. proof please.. You also seem rather competitive about something that doesn't really matter...
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On July 24 2012 01:48 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 23:33 Lineridarz wrote:
I can now stream 1080p @ 60fps while still getting 60+fps ingame. Bouse. I can do it with >200fps ingame using a 2009 CPU and Xsplit, 60 earlygame is nothing special and will quickly deteriorate to unplayability
You can't stream at 1080p at 60fps on a CPU from 2009.
Not happening.
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Exactly what i thought... and getting 200 fps, pretty bad troll.
Furthermore, my i5 2500k @ 4.7 ghz can just BARELY do it....
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On July 24 2012 02:35 Lineridarz wrote:
Exactly what i thought... and getting 200 fps, pretty bad troll.
Furthermore, my i5 2500k @ 4.7 ghz can just BARELY do it....
Nice. I've yet to OC my 2500k but it's nice to know that I may be able to make it to that I'm doing 1080 / 30fps right now and I'm not even overclocked, nor am I breaking 60% cpu and that's while having FFSplit open to watch my own stream too.
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On July 24 2012 02:55 Lumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 02:35 Lineridarz wrote:
Exactly what i thought... and getting 200 fps, pretty bad troll.
Furthermore, my i5 2500k @ 4.7 ghz can just BARELY do it.... Nice. I've yet to OC my 2500k but it's nice to know that I may be able to make it to that I'm doing 1080 / 30fps right now and I'm not even overclocked, nor am I breaking 60% cpu and that's while having FFSplit open to watch my own stream too.
Yeah, the i5 2500k is a beast at overclocking, i have a really good CPU cooler as well, it's huuuuuuuuuuge (noctua NH-D14).
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On July 24 2012 02:55 Lumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 02:35 Lineridarz wrote:
Exactly what i thought... and getting 200 fps, pretty bad troll.
Furthermore, my i5 2500k @ 4.7 ghz can just BARELY do it.... Nice. I've yet to OC my 2500k but it's nice to know that I may be able to make it to that I'm doing 1080 / 30fps right now and I'm not even overclocked, nor am I breaking 60% cpu and that's while having FFSplit open to watch my own stream too.
Running on Superfast etc will take a lot of load off CPU.
My apologies, i misread the encoding @60fps part, but i can hold 50fps on stream at 1920x1080 @superfast with around 160fps in game staring at probes (just tested for 15 mins now), i doubt 60fps is out of reach with a higher end overclock, its far from ideal if you are going into more stressful scenes, but holding 60fps while capturing at 60fps (far bigger performance hit than 30) in a maxed battle with AOE is going to be very difficult regardless of encoding.
When i made that post i was thinking more about performance hit from capturing 60fps instead of 30, but derped a little on the encoding higher resolution as well, so sorry there
As for current CPU's, i have an overclocked 3770k downstairs that benchmarks ~50% higher than this one, i think a 1920x1080@60fps@superfast stream would be viable on something like that but i dont have sc2 on that system yet.
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Well, yeah, obviously staring at probes i get > 200 fps, but that's hardly realistic.... plus im using a default preset and a 3600 kbit bitrate... as well as recording....
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On July 24 2012 03:04 Lineridarz wrote:
Well, yeah, obviously staring at probes i get > 200 fps, but that's hardly realistic.... plus im using a default preset and a 3600 kbit bitrate... as well as recording....
Preset and Bitrate have no effect on framerate for me unless im hitting 100% on CPU core/s from being too stressful preset
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Hey i have a question.
How can i get both sound from my mic and my comp to play?
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On July 24 2012 03:25 Beaster- wrote:
Hey i have a question.
How can i get both sound from my mic and my comp to play?
Yes, just enable the stereo mix
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I keep gettting "FFsplit has stopped unexpectedly  " , even though I chose to run it as Admin and disabled UAC. Anyone else having that same problem?
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On July 24 2012 11:07 apm66 wrote:I keep gettting "FFsplit has stopped unexpectedly " , even though I chose to run it as Admin and disabled UAC. Anyone else having that same problem?
You have to adjust your settings to fit your pc. FFsplit may take some load off of your cpu, but is no where near as tolerate when it comes to connection speed. if you come anywhere close to your max bitrate while streaming, FFsplit will more than likely shut down. It took me a while to figure that out and alot of people who are limited by connection speed will end up having the same issue.
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On July 24 2012 11:13 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 11:07 apm66 wrote:I keep gettting "FFsplit has stopped unexpectedly " , even though I chose to run it as Admin and disabled UAC. Anyone else having that same problem? You have to adjust your settings to fit your pc. FFsplit may take some load off of your cpu, but is no where near as tolerate when it comes to connection speed. if you come anywhere close to your max bitrate while streaming, FFsplit will more than likely shut down. It took me a while to figure that out and alot of people who are limited by connection speed will end up having the same issue.
I'll do that! Thanks I give up. I tried everything and it's simply not working for me
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i had issues where it wouldn't update
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Can't get this to work at all. Set it up properly and my preview works, but it won't start streaming and when I click the "start" button I can't turn the program off and I can't stop the stream. The program claims to be streaming but on twitch it's offline. My debug looks like this:
[00:48:42:553] Debug Console 0.4 started on 2012-07-25
[00:50:30:668] Recording...
[00:50:31:669] Initializing Stream....
Then nothing happens.
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Im having trouble with the sound. I use spotify as i stream and the music is completely fucked. laggy + it repeats itselfs..
Whats up with that? Ive tried all sorts of things, but cant get it to work.
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On July 26 2012 03:36 zeh_ripper wrote:
Im having trouble with the sound. I use spotify as i stream and the music is completely fucked. laggy + it repeats itselfs..
Whats up with that? Ive tried all sorts of things, but cant get it to work.
maybe you don't have high enough upload bandwidth, or maybe you don't have your stream set on mute?
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On July 26 2012 03:36 zeh_ripper wrote:
Im having trouble with the sound. I use spotify as i stream and the music is completely fucked. laggy + it repeats itselfs..
Whats up with that? Ive tried all sorts of things, but cant get it to work.
There's an issue with 5.1 Audio Speakers. Go to Sound options. Select your default playback device, rightclick configure and select Stereo. There are a few guides on how to set up the audio in the Getting Started section.
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On July 25 2012 07:52 anilusion wrote:
Can't get this to work at all. Set it up properly and my preview works, but it won't start streaming and when I click the "start" button I can't turn the program off and I can't stop the stream. The program claims to be streaming but on twitch it's offline. My debug looks like this:
[00:48:42:553] Debug Console 0.4 started on 2012-07-25
[00:50:30:668] Recording...
[00:50:31:669] Initializing Stream....
Then nothing happens.
i hate this this too, need force shutdown using task manager.
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Just a reminder to the many people having issues with this. The most common are that you need to turn off UAC (start --> search box --> "UAC") and also right click the shortcut you use for the program, go to properties, advanced, and check the "run as administrator" option. And, as has been pointed out many times.
From this thread and being in their irc chat sometimes, it seems that most people just aren't thoroughly reading and complying with the installation guide on the ir actual site. While this thread is a nice gesture for that, the program is too 'quirky', if you will, for the simplified OP guide.
Try this guide from their main site: http://www.ffsplit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=235&sid=e392fc14309f65aa0f0a73b7b88510d3
It goes more in depth. Also, skip the sections about dxtory and virtual audio cables. And make sure that you're using ffsplit overlay as your capture source and not anything else. I either read it on the site or heard it from the main dude but anything but the native capturing isn't fully supported yet.
And, honestly, since it's a superior guide to the OP, you should probably just delete the OP and reference people to that. Otherwise we'll probably just keep seeing the same failures in this thread, over and over, as we have. Failures which I think are majorly user-end.
If you've gone through everything suggested in this post, then you can worry about playaing with your upload speeds to see if that's the reason why your stream is dying out.
Also, one last thing I'll toss out is that I when you click the overlay button next to the video source selection, and go to the options tab - my stream was never stable or long lasting while on high capture. But I haven't gone back to test this yet after fixing what were really my main issues (run as admin).
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I can't generate a mask, i've set the transparency values to 0,0,0 and i set the mask as 0,0,0 and it won't work, can someone help me?
nvm got it working
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Wow, this thing works great, especially with my not-so-very-great PC & Internet speeds. Time to try it out with SC, though....
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I use a notebook with GT540M i5-2520m 2.50GHz, 4 ram and 1 internet upload rate. What settings would you guys recommend to try?
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On August 02 2012 15:12 maracuja123 wrote:
I use a notebook with GT540M i5-2520m 2.50GHz, 4 ram and 1 internet upload rate. What settings would you guys recommend to try?
thats not a quad core cpu so it may not work well for you at all. You can still attempt it though. Try
640x360
25 fps
425 bitrate
96k audio bitrate mono
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There is literally no reason to stream if you have that bad quality, just forget about anyone watching it.
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On August 02 2012 15:23 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 15:12 maracuja123 wrote:
I use a notebook with GT540M i5-2520m 2.50GHz, 4 ram and 1 internet upload rate. What settings would you guys recommend to try? thats not a quad core cpu so it may not work well for you at all. You can still attempt it though. Try 640x360 25 fps 425 bitrate 96k audio bitrate mono
I think my low fps problem while streaming is not because of my CPU, in fact I think this i5 is really good, since while I`m streaming the % usage of it is only 30-40%.. My main problem might be because of GPU...
But mb u right since the normal game I get 180 fps (without streaming) and then when that happens it goes to 50 (Xsplit)... Is that because of my GPU, CPU or both?
ps: With ffsplit it goes to 100, and with Dxtory 80.
On August 02 2012 15:24 Lineridarz wrote:
There is literally no reason to stream if you have that bad quality, just forget about anyone watching it.
U dont know what you`re talking about.
It`s not "that bad quality" since i managed to do with 480p quality resolution and steady 100 fps during the first minutes. Compared to last time where I tried with only Xsplit, this is way better.
Now I just need to fix the bottom of the screen which is something I faced before but I dont remember how to fix it, although its only a matter of time till I figure it out (unless someone helps me here). And the freezing u see during the first seconds is because I pressed + and - so the replay could get faster. It`s normal (after this patch it started doing that, with or without streaming, but anyway thats not the case).
I know this is not perfect but its watchable and playable.I have another Twitch account where at least 50 people were watching the live videos, so yea, people did watch with quality even worse than that. I dont think you know what you`re talking about at all.
I just want to know if there`s something I can improve here, from someone who actually understands, since from my experience I have better FPS with FFSplit than Xsplit/gamesource and Xsplit/Dxtory. Even if there`s nothing to add, Im glad with the results so far.. At least for me who has bad internet and reasonable configs for notebook, can still stream with 360p-480p quality.
the 1 minute experience - http://tinyurl.com/c7t35af (100 fps at start is ok for me, i tend to get 50-70 late game while streaming and its not that bad)
Ty for this new software guys =), FFSplit is way better for me !
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**Nvm fixed ,stream key was wrong.
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The support for this definitely looks promising! I'm going to give this a try for my stream when I get home, as I'm starting to run into problems with Xsplit more regularly. I do like Xsplit, but I feel like it takes more resources from my PC than it needs to... especially when I don't stream in a quality considered HD.
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On August 02 2012 16:42 maracuja123 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 15:23 LgNKami wrote:On August 02 2012 15:12 maracuja123 wrote:
I use a notebook with GT540M i5-2520m 2.50GHz, 4 ram and 1 internet upload rate. What settings would you guys recommend to try? thats not a quad core cpu so it may not work well for you at all. You can still attempt it though. Try 640x360 25 fps 425 bitrate 96k audio bitrate mono I think my low fps problem while streaming is not because of my CPU, in fact I think this i5 is really good, since while I`m streaming the % usage of it is only 30-40%.. My main problem might be because of GPU... But mb u right since the normal game I get 180 fps (without streaming) and then when that happens it goes to 50 (Xsplit)... Is that because of my GPU, CPU or both? ps: With ffsplit it goes to 100, and with Dxtory 80. Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 15:24 Lineridarz wrote:
There is literally no reason to stream if you have that bad quality, just forget about anyone watching it. U dont know what you`re talking about. It`s not "that bad quality" since i managed to do with 480p quality resolution and steady 100 fps during the first minutes. Compared to last time where I tried with only Xsplit, this is way better. Now I just need to fix the bottom of the screen which is something I faced before but I dont remember how to fix it, although its only a matter of time till I figure it out (unless someone helps me here). And the freezing u see during the first seconds is because I pressed + and - so the replay could get faster. It`s normal (after this patch it started doing that, with or without streaming, but anyway thats not the case). I know this is not perfect but its watchable and playable.I have another Twitch account where at least 50 people were watching the live videos, so yea, people did watch with quality even worse than that. I dont think you know what you`re talking about at all. I just want to know if there`s something I can improve here, from someone who actually understands, since from my experience I have better FPS with FFSplit than Xsplit/gamesource and Xsplit/Dxtory. Even if there`s nothing to add, Im glad with the results so far.. At least for me who has bad internet and reasonable configs for notebook, can still stream with 360p-480p quality. the 1 minute experience - http://tinyurl.com/c7t35af (100 fps at start is ok for me, i tend to get 50-70 late game while streaming and its not that bad) Ty for this new software guys =), FFSplit is way better for me !
Unless you're the best player in the world, have an incredibly funny and likeable personality, you're not going to get any viewers in this market where most people will instantly leave at a bad quality stream.
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When I stream using 'FFSplit Overlay' as a video source, the gameplay feels stuttery even though the game is reporting 60+ frames per second (and I only have a 60hz monitor). Is there any particular reason for this? Would using DXtory as a source fix this?
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On August 03 2012 07:52 LoLAdriankat wrote:
When I stream using 'FFSplit Overlay' as a video source, the gameplay feels stuttery even though the game is reporting 60+ frames per second (and I only have a 60hz monitor). Is there any particular reason for this? Would using DXtory as a source fix this?
You might still be getting 60 fps but the actual time between frames is greater than 1 second. Ala time between frame 1 and 2 is 2 seconds and between 2 and 3 is .5 seconds.
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On August 03 2012 06:51 Lineridarz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 16:42 maracuja123 wrote:On August 02 2012 15:23 LgNKami wrote:On August 02 2012 15:12 maracuja123 wrote:
I use a notebook with GT540M i5-2520m 2.50GHz, 4 ram and 1 internet upload rate. What settings would you guys recommend to try? thats not a quad core cpu so it may not work well for you at all. You can still attempt it though. Try 640x360 25 fps 425 bitrate 96k audio bitrate mono I think my low fps problem while streaming is not because of my CPU, in fact I think this i5 is really good, since while I`m streaming the % usage of it is only 30-40%.. My main problem might be because of GPU... But mb u right since the normal game I get 180 fps (without streaming) and then when that happens it goes to 50 (Xsplit)... Is that because of my GPU, CPU or both? ps: With ffsplit it goes to 100, and with Dxtory 80. On August 02 2012 15:24 Lineridarz wrote:
There is literally no reason to stream if you have that bad quality, just forget about anyone watching it. U dont know what you`re talking about. It`s not "that bad quality" since i managed to do with 480p quality resolution and steady 100 fps during the first minutes. Compared to last time where I tried with only Xsplit, this is way better. Now I just need to fix the bottom of the screen which is something I faced before but I dont remember how to fix it, although its only a matter of time till I figure it out (unless someone helps me here). And the freezing u see during the first seconds is because I pressed + and - so the replay could get faster. It`s normal (after this patch it started doing that, with or without streaming, but anyway thats not the case). I know this is not perfect but its watchable and playable.I have another Twitch account where at least 50 people were watching the live videos, so yea, people did watch with quality even worse than that. I dont think you know what you`re talking about at all. I just want to know if there`s something I can improve here, from someone who actually understands, since from my experience I have better FPS with FFSplit than Xsplit/gamesource and Xsplit/Dxtory. Even if there`s nothing to add, Im glad with the results so far.. At least for me who has bad internet and reasonable configs for notebook, can still stream with 360p-480p quality. the 1 minute experience - http://tinyurl.com/c7t35af (100 fps at start is ok for me, i tend to get 50-70 late game while streaming and its not that bad) Ty for this new software guys =), FFSplit is way better for me ! Unless you're the best player in the world, have an incredibly funny and likeable personality, you're not going to get any viewers in this market where most people will instantly leave at a bad quality stream.
I stream for some people only, What the hell is your problem? Im not asking for your bullshit opinion which is 100% wrong and does not fit what im asking for... im asking for advices from people who understands streaming, which is clearly not ur case. Either way im glad with my 480p quality and I stream for fun
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Ok. Just saying there's really not any point in streaming if no one watches, unless you want to grow a fanbase which won't happen if you stream at such a shit quality, it's just basic streaming facts in such a saturated market.
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On August 03 2012 13:30 Lineridarz wrote:
Ok. Just saying there's really not any point in streaming if no one watches, unless you want to grow a fanbase which won't happen if you stream at such a shit quality, it's just basic streaming facts in such a saturated market.
You don't even know what he's streaming or who he's streaming for...
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On August 04 2012 04:40 TylerThaCreator wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 13:30 Lineridarz wrote:
Ok. Just saying there's really not any point in streaming if no one watches, unless you want to grow a fanbase which won't happen if you stream at such a shit quality, it's just basic streaming facts in such a saturated market. You don't even know what he's streaming or who he's streaming for...
LOL i`ll just ignore him, i dont have pacience with stupid people... i think he needs to get out of his bubble and understand that streaming does not go to one direction only.. "it`s just basic streaming facts" right?
all i wanted was some settings i could test to see some improvement, even though im ok with what I got by using ffsplit
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what settings should I use with a
Intel Core 2 Q9300 Quad Core @ 2.50Ghz
and
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2096051093.png)
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On August 04 2012 18:39 Nightops wrote:what settings should I use with a Intel Core 2 Q9300 Quad Core @ 2.50Ghz and
854*480
ultra fast
500kbps
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I'm only getting around 30 fps, I'm using 1920x1200 res and all low settings, I usually get around 60-80
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How can I stream my second screen? I've use two screens, and I use my second (so not my main) screen to play starcraft, but I can't figure out how to make the program stream my second screen instead of my main screen. Could you please help me?
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whenever i use ffsplit i click the stream button and it starts for a minute or two then it just stops streaming help?
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On August 04 2012 19:38 Melle wrote:
How can I stream my second screen? I've use two screens, and I use my second (so not my main) screen to play starcraft, but I can't figure out how to make the program stream my second screen instead of my main screen. Could you please help me?
You can't, you can make it track the active window though.
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Why after a few minutes using FFSplit the streams totally drops?
I`ve done everything right in the tutorial and still drops. I also tried in a different computer and connection with 20 mb upload rate and nothing. I lowered everything etc but the internet doesn`t drop, neither ingame fps etc.. I don`t know if it is just me or.. either way it`s really frustrating to deal with. I might aswell just go back to Xsplit :/.
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On August 05 2012 18:42 maracuja123 wrote:
Why after a few minutes using FFSplit the streams totally drops?
I`ve done everything right in the tutorial and still drops. I also tried in a different computer and connection with 20 mb upload rate and nothing. I lowered everything etc but the internet doesn`t drop, neither ingame fps etc.. I don`t know if it is just me or.. either way it`s really frustrating to deal with. I might aswell just go back to Xsplit :/.
I'm having this problem, as well. I have UAC off, connected to the lowest ping server, have my microphone source turned off, ran as an admin, have lowered my settings (despite being above and beyond the system/internet requirements) Whether I'm attempting 1080p at 7000 bitrate or 720p at 3500, both will be completely smooth and perfect for a period of time until it just stops working. I've used both default and pre-set encoders. I've set my audio devices to have exclusive control.
It works perfectly, beyond my expectations even, but never for more than 10 minutes. I've followed all the directions, in all the guides written- I promise. My speedtest is 20mb and my debug console shows that I can comfortably upload at the speed I set it to (3500 or 7000.) However, it just stops working at random times and I have no idea why.
Any outside-the-guide help would be appreciated, although I get the feeling there is a flaw in the program somewhere causing this. I am certainly not the only one experiencing these problems.
Edit: PC/Internet specs in the spoiler tag. Also, I'm doing the FFsplit Overlay, not dxtory or anything.
+ Show Spoiler +Intel i7-2600 3.4ghz 8-core 16GB RAM Nvidia GTX 580 (playing at 1080p on highest settings for any game) ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2102880485.png) Connected to the twitch server in a neighboring city, closest to me
edit2: oh, the guide says to UNcheck the exclusive audio thing. welp lemme try that, i'll report back.
edit3: welp, that might have been it. Will confirm in a while but it's been up longer than it's ever been, so we'll see.
edit4: Been running a half hour now and it seems fine. Funny that mis-reading the guide is what screwed me. Everything seems to be in order, now.
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On August 06 2012 01:30 Nokarot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 18:42 maracuja123 wrote:
Why after a few minutes using FFSplit the streams totally drops?
I`ve done everything right in the tutorial and still drops. I also tried in a different computer and connection with 20 mb upload rate and nothing. I lowered everything etc but the internet doesn`t drop, neither ingame fps etc.. I don`t know if it is just me or.. either way it`s really frustrating to deal with. I might aswell just go back to Xsplit :/. I'm having this problem, as well. I have UAC off, connected to the lowest ping server, have my microphone source turned off, ran as an admin, have lowered my settings (despite being above and beyond the system/internet requirements) Whether I'm attempting 1080p at 7000 bitrate or 720p at 3500, both will be completely smooth and perfect for a period of time until it just stops working. I've used both default and pre-set encoders. I've set my audio devices to have exclusive control. It works perfectly, beyond my expectations even, but never for more than 10 minutes. I've followed all the directions, in all the guides written- I promise. My speedtest is 20mb and my debug console shows that I can comfortably upload at the speed I set it to (3500 or 7000.) However, it just stops working at random times and I have no idea why. Any outside-the-guide help would be appreciated, although I get the feeling there is a flaw in the program somewhere causing this. I am certainly not the only one experiencing these problems. Edit: PC/Internet specs in the spoiler tag. Also, I'm doing the FFsplit Overlay, not dxtory or anything. + Show Spoiler +Intel i7-2600 3.4ghz 8-core 16GB RAM Nvidia GTX 580 (playing at 1080p on highest settings for any game) Connected to the twitch server in a neighboring city, closest to me edit2: oh, the guide says to UNcheck the exclusive audio thing. welp lemme try that, i'll report back. edit3: welp, that might have been it. Will confirm in a while but it's been up longer than it's ever been, so we'll see. edit4: Been running a half hour now and it seems fine. Funny that mis-reading the guide is what screwed me. Everything seems to be in order, now.
lol ! really? uncheck the audio was the first thing i did to set up ffsplit and this error still occurs :/.
can u post ur FFsplit settings?
and so weird that yours is working now. i`ve seen every topic in FFsplit`s forum and if im not mistaken an admin posted there that he is aware of this problem and they`re trying to fi it. lots of people apprently having the same issue !
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On August 06 2012 03:30 maracuja123 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 01:30 Nokarot wrote:On August 05 2012 18:42 maracuja123 wrote:
Why after a few minutes using FFSplit the streams totally drops?
I`ve done everything right in the tutorial and still drops. I also tried in a different computer and connection with 20 mb upload rate and nothing. I lowered everything etc but the internet doesn`t drop, neither ingame fps etc.. I don`t know if it is just me or.. either way it`s really frustrating to deal with. I might aswell just go back to Xsplit :/. I'm having this problem, as well. I have UAC off, connected to the lowest ping server, have my microphone source turned off, ran as an admin, have lowered my settings (despite being above and beyond the system/internet requirements) Whether I'm attempting 1080p at 7000 bitrate or 720p at 3500, both will be completely smooth and perfect for a period of time until it just stops working. I've used both default and pre-set encoders. I've set my audio devices to have exclusive control. It works perfectly, beyond my expectations even, but never for more than 10 minutes. I've followed all the directions, in all the guides written- I promise. My speedtest is 20mb and my debug console shows that I can comfortably upload at the speed I set it to (3500 or 7000.) However, it just stops working at random times and I have no idea why. Any outside-the-guide help would be appreciated, although I get the feeling there is a flaw in the program somewhere causing this. I am certainly not the only one experiencing these problems. Edit: PC/Internet specs in the spoiler tag. Also, I'm doing the FFsplit Overlay, not dxtory or anything. + Show Spoiler +Intel i7-2600 3.4ghz 8-core 16GB RAM Nvidia GTX 580 (playing at 1080p on highest settings for any game) Connected to the twitch server in a neighboring city, closest to me edit2: oh, the guide says to UNcheck the exclusive audio thing. welp lemme try that, i'll report back. edit3: welp, that might have been it. Will confirm in a while but it's been up longer than it's ever been, so we'll see. edit4: Been running a half hour now and it seems fine. Funny that mis-reading the guide is what screwed me. Everything seems to be in order, now. lol ! really? uncheck the audio was the first thing i did to set up ffsplit and this error still occurs :/. can u post ur FFsplit settings? and so weird that yours is working now. i`ve seen every topic in FFsplit`s forum and if im not mistaken an admin posted there that he is aware of this problem and they`re trying to fi it. lots of people apprently having the same issue ! I get the same problem, my stream runs perfectly smooth, but stops streaming at the same amount of time consistently since the last update ( 3 minutes and 35 seconds into the streaming process ). I have had to change video sources since it won't come up as an option to use anymore ( have to use VHScrCap which I like cause it seems to run smoother, but now the stream stops ). Not sure if those 2 are related or not.
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So I tested out FFsplit and tried to stream at 1080p res but a few minutes into the stream the broadcast automatically stopped. I believe it is because my settings were off, and I have no clue what they should be.
i5-2500k 3.30 GHz
7 Mbps upload speed
1680x1050 res
Any idea what the ideal settings for my FFsplit would be? thank you!
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On August 06 2012 15:25 wooscums wrote:
So I tested out FFsplit and tried to stream at 1080p res but a few minutes into the stream the broadcast automatically stopped. I believe it is because my settings were off, and I have no clue what they should be.
i5-2500k 3.30 GHz
7 Mbps upload speed
1680x1050 res
Any idea what the ideal settings for my FFsplit would be? thank you! I do not understand what people mean by settings being "off". If you can handle to stream at x quality with the software, you should be able to stream with that quality with the software. I doubt it stops because of the quality settings.
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On August 06 2012 15:25 wooscums wrote:
So I tested out FFsplit and tried to stream at 1080p res but a few minutes into the stream the broadcast automatically stopped. I believe it is because my settings were off, and I have no clue what they should be.
i5-2500k 3.30 GHz
7 Mbps upload speed
1680x1050 res
Any idea what the ideal settings for my FFsplit would be? thank you!
I don't think it's possible to stream on a resolution higher than what your screen can render?
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I do not understand what people mean by settings being "off". If you can handle to stream at x quality with the software, you should be able to stream with that quality with the software. I doubt it stops because of the quality settings.
Sorry I guess I should rephrase my question. What are the highest settings that my computer can handle on FFsplit without the software stopping mid stream. If it's not stopping because quality settings, then any idea why?
I don't think it's possible to stream on a resolution higher than what your screen can render?
I stream at 1680 x 1050 but i refer to that as 1080p its just that my monitor is a different aspect ratio.
Any help?
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On August 07 2012 12:05 wooscums wrote:Show nested quote +I do not understand what people mean by settings being "off". If you can handle to stream at x quality with the software, you should be able to stream with that quality with the software. I doubt it stops because of the quality settings. Sorry I guess I should rephrase my question. What are the highest settings that my computer can handle on FFsplit without the software stopping mid stream. If it's not stopping because quality settings, then any idea why? Show nested quote +I don't think it's possible to stream on a resolution higher than what your screen can render? I stream at 1680 x 1050 but i refer to that as 1080p its just that my monitor is a different aspect ratio. Any help?
You have to use 1680x1050. 1680x1050 is 16:10 while 1920x1080 is 16 so it is 2 different aspect ratios. Also, if that is your max resolution on your monitor, it wont be possible to stream 1080p.
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Stream works and all but the stream screen is black when I play dota. Any idea on how to fix it ? It does work with wc3 but it shows it windowed when it should be the entire screen tt
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you cant play a game in fullscreen and stream it. With games like wc3, only way to stream it is to play it in windowed mode, same as bw. With dota, just play it in windowed fullscreen.
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On August 09 2012 15:01 LgNKami wrote:
you cant play a game in fullscreen and stream it. With games like wc3, only way to stream it is to play it in windowed mode, same as bw. With dota, just play it in windowed fullscreen.
Hey, I'm one of the guys from FFSPLIT and this is actually false. You can stream almost any games in fullscreen, though you need dxtory for the video settings.
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"the backgroundWorker is currently busy and cannot run multiple tasks concurrently"
any idea what that means? ffsplit is failing to stream for me
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I had this same problem, just try to keep uninstalling and installing, worked for me.
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On August 20 2012 12:56 wRolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2012 15:01 LgNKami wrote:
you cant play a game in fullscreen and stream it. With games like wc3, only way to stream it is to play it in windowed mode, same as bw. With dota, just play it in windowed fullscreen. Hey, I'm one of the guys from FFSPLIT and this is actually false. You can stream almost any games in fullscreen, though you need dxtory for the video settings.
windowed full screen or full screen?
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My stuff went from perfect, never crashing, to broken and unable to even start up in 0.5.0.4 FFMPEG specifically keeps crashing. Tried reinstalling/restarting/all of the obvious things, and trying a new stream key incase it got reset, but no dice. No big deal for someone like me, but I hope it gets hotfixed!
On August 21 2012 06:35 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 12:56 wRolf wrote:On August 09 2012 15:01 LgNKami wrote:
you cant play a game in fullscreen and stream it. With games like wc3, only way to stream it is to play it in windowed mode, same as bw. With dota, just play it in windowed fullscreen. Hey, I'm one of the guys from FFSPLIT and this is actually false. You can stream almost any games in fullscreen, though you need dxtory for the video settings. windowed full screen or full screen?
Dxtory works the way it does because it uses OpenGL is a source, rather than screen region. Therefore, it doesn't matter whether it's windowed or windowed fullscreen, so long as it's an OpenGL game.
Whereas if you're using ffsplit overlay, screen region isn't necessarily pulling screen region from the pixels you've selected on your monitor, it's pulling pixels from the screen region on your desktop. When games are launched in fullscreen, those two regions don't necessarily line up However, if you use fullscreen windowed (or regular windowed) then they are, because it's actually just a giant window displayed on your desktop.
I'm no expert on the subject and I'm sure someone from FFsplit could explain it more delicately than me, but in a general laymans sense, that's what's so special about DXtory (similarly, why it freezes when you tab out- because it can't pull from OpenGL when nothing is being rendered and the desktop isn't OpenGL.)
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Thank you for this guide !!
I have some lags with XSplit, + the FPS Drop problem of SC2, I wanted to try something different.
I stream in 960*540 to avoid any lags. Maybe I'll be able to stream in higher quality as this program looks less "heavy" than XSplit in ressources.
How should I choose my bitrate? I've set it to 2000, but I dunno if it's good or not.
Thanks,
Zepiii
EDIT : It it possible to have 2 scenes? At least one with black screen while streaming, to quicly check mails and things like that without showing it the streamers but without shutting down the stream?
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EDIT : It it possible to have 2 scenes? At least one with black screen while streaming, to quicly check mails and things like that without showing it the streamers but without shutting down the stream?
You can track a specified window, from the Overlay.
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Hey! Great guide, but when I start the stream, I have the sizzling sounds :/ a solution?
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Hey, I have a quick question. I use 1000 kbps to stream (my upload speed is about 1.47 Mbps), and I am wondering what video encode preset I should be using. I am guessing Default? Thanks.
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Depends on your system, whats your CPU?
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Hey guys, please help me out setting up my stream with ffsplit. I am looking for the best possible streaming quality with these specs, possibly without reducing my gaming performance too much . ( i play on extreme with with AA and a few settings off)
I5 2500k
8 gig ram
hd 7850 oc
20 mbit upload speed.
1920*1080 native res.
Thank you in advance for help.
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hey, i have a problem streaming with ffsplit.
i set the video source to ffsplit overlay and set the encode settings to what fits my internet speed. i filled in the rtmp+stream key.
when i press start nothing happens, can anyone help me out here?
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On August 31 2012 22:02 OptimusSC2 wrote:
hey, i have a problem streaming with ffsplit.
i set the video source to ffsplit overlay and set the encode settings to what fits my internet speed. i filled in the rtmp+stream key.
when i press start nothing happens, can anyone help me out here?
whats your internet speed and what did you set the bitrate too?
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On August 31 2012 22:12 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 22:02 OptimusSC2 wrote:
hey, i have a problem streaming with ffsplit.
i set the video source to ffsplit overlay and set the encode settings to what fits my internet speed. i filled in the rtmp+stream key.
when i press start nothing happens, can anyone help me out here? whats your internet speed and what did you set the bitrate too?
my upload is 0.80 mbit, i set the bitrate to 400. on xsplit i set it to 600 which worked too.
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On August 31 2012 01:17 Nalorn wrote:
Hey guys, please help me out setting up my stream with ffsplit. I am looking for the best possible streaming quality with these specs, possibly without reducing my gaming performance too much . ( i play on extreme with with AA and a few settings off)
I5 2500k
8 gig ram
hd 7850 oc
20 mbit upload speed.
1920*1080 native res.
Thank you in advance for help.
If you are a partner to your streaming site, then stick with 1080p as your streaming res. Otherwise, I suggest you use 720p or else you will have less viewers overall seeing that not everyone can view a 1080p stream.
Bitrate 1250
Resolution 1280x720
FPS 60
Audio Bitrate 192 Stereo
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Hey guys, I'm keen on getting into streaming, but I'm not sure my hardware can handle streaming at a decent enough viewing quality.
The best PC I've got at home is a laptop: Acer Aspire 7750G
Intel Core i5 (2nd Gen) 2450M / 2.5 GHz
6 GB ( 1 x 4 GB + 1 x 2 GB )
AMD Radeon HD 7670M - 2 GB DDR3 VRAM
Internet connection: 10 Mbit/s down, 1 Mbit/s up.
I would try it out myself to see if it works or not, but from what I've gathered, 1 Mbit/s upload speed is crappy, so before I upgrade my connection to 10/10 Mbit/s, I would like to know if the speccs on my laptop are good enough.
Thanks in advance!
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I need help trying to get the best possible quality stream without causing input lag on SC2. My information is as follows:
Computer Specs
Intel i5 2500K Overclocked to 4.3GHz
Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM
PNY 1GB GTX 560Ti
Internet
![[image loading]](http://speedtest.net/result/2146369398.png)
Upload fluctuates between 0.79-0.87ish
I play at 1920x1080 resolution.
Thanks
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hi can someone help me with this.
when ever i press start streaming it says program has stopped streaming
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On September 01 2012 04:20 Beaster- wrote:
hi can someone help me with this.
when ever i press start streaming it says program has stopped streaming
disable UAC
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On September 01 2012 01:01 Mackem wrote:I need help trying to get the best possible quality stream without causing input lag on SC2. My information is as follows: Computer SpecsIntel i5 2500K Overclocked to 4.3GHz Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM PNY 1GB GTX 560Ti InternetUpload fluctuates between 0.79-0.87ish I play at 1920x1080 resolution. Thanks
Streaming Resolution 960x540
Bitrate 625
Audio Bitrate 96 mono
FPS 45
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On August 31 2012 23:34 Gyoza wrote:
Hey guys, I'm keen on getting into streaming, but I'm not sure my hardware can handle streaming at a decent enough viewing quality.
The best PC I've got at home is a laptop: Acer Aspire 7750G
Intel Core i5 (2nd Gen) 2450M / 2.5 GHz
6 GB ( 1 x 4 GB + 1 x 2 GB )
AMD Radeon HD 7670M - 2 GB DDR3 VRAM
Internet connection: 10 Mbit/s down, 1 Mbit/s up.
I would try it out myself to see if it works or not, but from what I've gathered, 1 Mbit/s upload speed is crappy, so before I upgrade my connection to 10/10 Mbit/s, I would like to know if the speccs on my laptop are good enough.
Thanks in advance!
Honestly I dont think it would be worth it. You may be able to do a 480p stream with everything on low in sc2. Otherwise you might have to do 432p or 360p.
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On September 01 2012 07:45 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 01:01 Mackem wrote:I need help trying to get the best possible quality stream without causing input lag on SC2. My information is as follows: Computer SpecsIntel i5 2500K Overclocked to 4.3GHz Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM PNY 1GB GTX 560Ti InternetUpload fluctuates between 0.79-0.87ish I play at 1920x1080 resolution. Thanks Streaming Resolution 960x540 Bitrate 625 Audio Bitrate 96 mono FPS 45
Hmm 625 bitrate even if my Internet is having a shit day with 0.79 upload? Also why 45 FPS, just curious?
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On September 01 2012 08:12 Mackem wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 07:45 LgNKami wrote:On September 01 2012 01:01 Mackem wrote:I need help trying to get the best possible quality stream without causing input lag on SC2. My information is as follows: Computer SpecsIntel i5 2500K Overclocked to 4.3GHz Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM PNY 1GB GTX 560Ti InternetUpload fluctuates between 0.79-0.87ish I play at 1920x1080 resolution. Thanks Streaming Resolution 960x540 Bitrate 625 Audio Bitrate 96 mono FPS 45 Hmm 625 bitrate even if my Internet is having a shit day with 0.79 upload? Also why 45 FPS, just curious?
600-625 will be fine. 45 fps because 60 is too much for your connection. you can do 30 if you want though but I recommend 45. If you want an idea on how your stream quality will be, check out this vod from my stream.
http://www.twitch.tv/doverton252/b/330665401
skip to about 4:30 if you want to go straight to gameplay. I live on East Coast US and I was able to play on kr server with decent ping and I have the same upload speed as you. Im using the same settings as well.
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On September 01 2012 17:20 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:12 Mackem wrote:On September 01 2012 07:45 LgNKami wrote:On September 01 2012 01:01 Mackem wrote:I need help trying to get the best possible quality stream without causing input lag on SC2. My information is as follows: Computer SpecsIntel i5 2500K Overclocked to 4.3GHz Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM PNY 1GB GTX 560Ti InternetUpload fluctuates between 0.79-0.87ish I play at 1920x1080 resolution. Thanks Streaming Resolution 960x540 Bitrate 625 Audio Bitrate 96 mono FPS 45 Hmm 625 bitrate even if my Internet is having a shit day with 0.79 upload? Also why 45 FPS, just curious? 600-625 will be fine. 45 fps because 60 is too much for your connection. you can do 30 if you want though but I recommend 45. If you want an idea on how your stream quality will be, check out this vod from my stream. http://www.twitch.tv/doverton252/b/330665401skip to about 4:30 if you want to go straight to gameplay. I live on East Coast US and I was able to play on kr server with decent ping and I have the same upload speed as you. Im using the same settings as well.
What computer specs you got?
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On September 02 2012 00:21 Mackem wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 17:20 LgNKami wrote:On September 01 2012 08:12 Mackem wrote:On September 01 2012 07:45 LgNKami wrote:On September 01 2012 01:01 Mackem wrote:I need help trying to get the best possible quality stream without causing input lag on SC2. My information is as follows: Computer SpecsIntel i5 2500K Overclocked to 4.3GHz Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM PNY 1GB GTX 560Ti InternetUpload fluctuates between 0.79-0.87ish I play at 1920x1080 resolution. Thanks Streaming Resolution 960x540 Bitrate 625 Audio Bitrate 96 mono FPS 45 Hmm 625 bitrate even if my Internet is having a shit day with 0.79 upload? Also why 45 FPS, just curious? 600-625 will be fine. 45 fps because 60 is too much for your connection. you can do 30 if you want though but I recommend 45. If you want an idea on how your stream quality will be, check out this vod from my stream. http://www.twitch.tv/doverton252/b/330665401skip to about 4:30 if you want to go straight to gameplay. I live on East Coast US and I was able to play on kr server with decent ping and I have the same upload speed as you. Im using the same settings as well. What computer specs you got?
Phenom II x6 3.4 ghz
4gb ram
GTS 250
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On September 02 2012 06:31 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 00:21 Mackem wrote:On September 01 2012 17:20 LgNKami wrote:On September 01 2012 08:12 Mackem wrote:On September 01 2012 07:45 LgNKami wrote:On September 01 2012 01:01 Mackem wrote:I need help trying to get the best possible quality stream without causing input lag on SC2. My information is as follows: Computer SpecsIntel i5 2500K Overclocked to 4.3GHz Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM PNY 1GB GTX 560Ti InternetUpload fluctuates between 0.79-0.87ish I play at 1920x1080 resolution. Thanks Streaming Resolution 960x540 Bitrate 625 Audio Bitrate 96 mono FPS 45 Hmm 625 bitrate even if my Internet is having a shit day with 0.79 upload? Also why 45 FPS, just curious? 600-625 will be fine. 45 fps because 60 is too much for your connection. you can do 30 if you want though but I recommend 45. If you want an idea on how your stream quality will be, check out this vod from my stream. http://www.twitch.tv/doverton252/b/330665401skip to about 4:30 if you want to go straight to gameplay. I live on East Coast US and I was able to play on kr server with decent ping and I have the same upload speed as you. Im using the same settings as well. What computer specs you got? Phenom II x6 3.4 ghz 4gb ram GTS 250
Yeah I tried those stream settings and it was fine.
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When I downloaded it, and after installing it, I tried opening it and it triggered my antivirus... false positives? Can anyone shed light on this?
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On September 05 2012 15:32 zZygote wrote:
When I downloaded it, and after installing it, I tried opening it and it triggered my antivirus... false positives? Can anyone shed light on this?
You have to disable antivirus and UAC. I think in the early stages of xsplit you had to do the same (disable antivirus).
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Holy crap ffsplit is awesome, couldn't use Xsplit as the quality was awful and my frames dropped in game but no problems with fsplit, HOWEVER, my webcam shows up as a black square even though it works in the overlay manager, any thoughts?
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On September 06 2012 10:34 Esoterikk wrote:
Holy crap ffsplit is awesome, couldn't use Xsplit as the quality was awful and my frames dropped in game but no problems with fsplit, HOWEVER, my webcam shows up as a black square even though it works in the overlay manager, any thoughts?
My webcam used to work but is doing the same as well. not sure what the issue is. Only thing you can do is message the developers and let them know.
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Does anyone know a program that can help me adjust the sound of my stream? Using FFsplit and I'm really quiet compared the sounds on my computer
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On September 07 2012 12:33 wussleeQ wrote:
Does anyone know a program that can help me adjust the sound of my stream? Using FFsplit and I'm really quiet compared the sounds on my computer
Make sure your microphone is turned up in the Windows sound settings.
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It is turned up fairly high, I dont' want to turn it up any higher because then I'd be too loud in skype which I use while i stream. and the sounds that my pc gets is too loud in comparison to me
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On September 07 2012 13:05 wussleeQ wrote:
It is turned up fairly high, I dont' want to turn it up any higher because then I'd be too loud in skype which I use while i stream. and the sounds that my pc gets is too loud in comparison to me
You could try turning down stereo mix so that the computer sounds are not as loud in comparison to your microphone.
Aside from that I'm not too sure.
edit: after playing with it my self, I see what you mean. At 100% microphone I am dramatically quieter than I was before the newest update.
I'll see what's up.
edit 2: scratch what I said before, audio volume is consistent from previous versions to the most recent version. incorrect settings on my end resulted in anomalous testing results. my apologies.
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I've been using FFSplit for awhile now and it's been great, but I've recently switched ISP's and I'm having a bit of trouble finding my optimal settings. What do you guys think would be best for this setup? I stream in 720p.
i5 2500k (not OC'd)
HD 6850
4GB RAM
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2165836780.png)
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do 4000 bitrate, 256 stereo, and you can try streaming in 1080p
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On September 08 2012 04:01 StanzA wrote:I've been using FFSplit for awhile now and it's been great, but I've recently switched ISP's and I'm having a bit of trouble finding my optimal settings. What do you guys think would be best for this setup? I stream in 720p. i5 2500k (not OC'd) HD 6850 4GB RAM
I mean, I personally wouldnt recommend streaming 1080p unless you're a twitch partner (or whatever site you may stream on) as some people aren't able to watch 1080p streams. You also have a stock clocked 2500k which isnt bad but, I wouldnt recommend doing 1080p on it unless you plan on playing on low. Try 720p 60fps. set your bitrate to 1500.
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I've been using around 2500kb/s, 30fps, 192 stereo and it's been reasonably ok. I guess the default preset is ok?
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On September 08 2012 04:22 StanzA wrote:
I've been using around 2500kb/s, 30fps, 192 stereo and it's been reasonably ok. I guess the default preset is ok?
default is ok for streaming, if you want to clear up pixelation or anything just use a slower preset. So maybe fast would be a good place to start.
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I've been using FFsplit for a few weeks and I've been noticing an extreme performance hit when I start streaming. Aero's off, and I'm streaming at 1080p/30fps on veryfast with 2200kbps. I could (well, should) do better, but I wanted to test with my friend who uses an OC'd 2500k. On low settings, I pull in around 420 fps. Pretty solid. However, when I start streaming, I plummet to 90ish, and that's at the start of the game so it likely drops more when there's more than 12 workers on the field. Plus, I prefer playing on medium, where I get 40-60 at the beginning of the game.
I have a 3930k overclocked to 4.7GHz with a 1GB GTX460 and 8GB of RAM. Surely I should be seeing better numbers? It seems like people like Destiny (pre-capture card) have some ungodly preset (there's never pixelation) with decent fps. Are there common things that people screw up, or incompatibilities that can cause a drop in fps? I don't usually go above 60% cpu usage while playing/streaming, either, and it's definitely running @ 4.7. Am I just expecting too much? Keep in mind I'm simply looking at in-game fps, as I can't handle streaming flawlessly with the internet I have.
Edit - forgot to mention that I use the FFSplit overlay with a webcam and the screen capture set to high quality.
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If i stream with ffsplit and use dxtory to capture the screen can i still add overlays to my stream ?
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On September 08 2012 04:59 Wailord wrote:
I've been using FFsplit for a few weeks and I've been noticing an extreme performance hit when I start streaming. Aero's off, and I'm streaming at 1080p/30fps on veryfast with 2200kbps. I could (well, should) do better, but I wanted to test with my friend who uses an OC'd 2500k. On low settings, I pull in around 420 fps. Pretty solid. However, when I start streaming, I plummet to 90ish, and that's at the start of the game so it likely drops more when there's more than 12 workers on the field. Plus, I prefer playing on medium, where I get 40-60 at the beginning of the game.
I have a 3930k overclocked to 4.7GHz with a 1GB GTX460 and 8GB of RAM. Surely I should be seeing better numbers? It seems like people like Destiny (pre-capture card) have some ungodly preset (there's never pixelation) with decent fps. Are there common things that people screw up, or incompatibilities that can cause a drop in fps? I don't usually go above 60% cpu usage while playing/streaming, either, and it's definitely running @ 4.7. Am I just expecting too much? Keep in mind I'm simply looking at in-game fps, as I can't handle streaming flawlessly with the internet I have.
Edit - forgot to mention that I use the FFSplit overlay with a webcam and the screen capture set to high quality.
Try a preset like Default. Veryfast is extremely hard on your CPU.
Even with a processor running at 4.7ghz, video encoding at 1080p is going to devour your CPU. It's doable, obviously, but no matter how fast your processor is, you're going to experience a drop in performance when streaming.
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On September 08 2012 12:13 WTFZerg wrote:
Try a preset like Default. Veryfast is extremely hard on your CPU.
It isn't because it is second fastest preset in x264. Only ultrafast is even lighter on CPU.
If someones has problems with streaming fps I'd suggest lower video resolution.
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On September 08 2012 14:21 jetpower wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 12:13 WTFZerg wrote:
Try a preset like Default. Veryfast is extremely hard on your CPU.
It isn't because it is second fastest preset in x264. Only ultrafast is even lighter on CPU. If someones has problems with streaming fps I'd suggest lower video resolution.
I guess I'm more curious as to why this is. I just like to play around with settings before I move and get better internet, and I'm trying to figure out how some people can get these outrageously good-looking streams. Surely 20 fps while streaming is unheard of with a 3930k? I got the cpu from a friend for something like $200, so it's not a big deal if I can never get it working as well as others, but I just don't know what makes others' set-up better than my own. Thanks for the suggestion, though!
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On September 08 2012 14:21 jetpower wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 12:13 WTFZerg wrote:
Try a preset like Default. Veryfast is extremely hard on your CPU.
It isn't because it is second fastest preset in x264. Only ultrafast is even lighter on CPU. If someones has problems with streaming fps I'd suggest lower video resolution.
Technically superfast is also lighter on your CPU, no?
Anyways, I might have been over exaggerating the cpu demands of veryfast.
Just to test I opened sc2 and set everything to medium and started recording at 1080p/30fps/default preset and was getting just over 100 FPS at the start of a game. This is on an AMD 1090T running at 4.0ghz, which is a dramatically inferior chip to your I7.
So I'm not too sure, actually. Seems like there could be something going on on your end.
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How can i use overlays when i am streaming with dxtory ? Is there any chance for it ?
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On September 09 2012 12:36 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 14:21 jetpower wrote:On September 08 2012 12:13 WTFZerg wrote:
Try a preset like Default. Veryfast is extremely hard on your CPU.
It isn't because it is second fastest preset in x264. Only ultrafast is even lighter on CPU. If someones has problems with streaming fps I'd suggest lower video resolution. Technically superfast is also lighter on your CPU, no?
Yes, of course. i forgot that one. They are in order from speediest to slowest (dunno what 'default' means). From my experience ultrafast is crappy looking as it turns everything off in encoding. So anything but that one. If cpu still stuggles with superfast then I'd lower resolution.
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Hi, I'm trying to get into streaming, but my internet/computer isn't too good.
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2181518937.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fOaEt.png)
Could anyone help me out? I want to stream in the highest quality possible. If anyone needs any more info, just ask. I'm pretty new to the whole streaming thing. If it matters, I'll be streaming Dota 2 on 1280x720 resolution.
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On September 16 2012 01:08 inphinity_ wrote:Hi, I'm trying to get into streaming, but my internet/computer isn't too good. Could anyone help me out? I want to stream in the highest quality possible. If anyone needs any more info, just ask. I'm pretty new to the whole streaming thing. If it matters, I'll be streaming Dota 2 on 1280x720 resolution.
your cpu is way too slow. even with it being a i7 quad core, its clock speed is just too low for 720p. It may be too slow for streaming in general.
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On September 16 2012 01:20 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 01:08 inphinity_ wrote:Hi, I'm trying to get into streaming, but my internet/computer isn't too good. Could anyone help me out? I want to stream in the highest quality possible. If anyone needs any more info, just ask. I'm pretty new to the whole streaming thing. If it matters, I'll be streaming Dota 2 on 1280x720 resolution. your cpu is way too slow. even with it being a i7 quad core, its clock speed is just too low for 720p. It may be too slow for streaming in general.
I've streamed HD on Xsplit before and it was decently smooth. What would my settings be if I wanted to stream 612p or 480p?
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On September 16 2012 01:24 inphinity_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 01:20 LgNKami wrote:On September 16 2012 01:08 inphinity_ wrote:Hi, I'm trying to get into streaming, but my internet/computer isn't too good. Could anyone help me out? I want to stream in the highest quality possible. If anyone needs any more info, just ask. I'm pretty new to the whole streaming thing. If it matters, I'll be streaming Dota 2 on 1280x720 resolution. your cpu is way too slow. even with it being a i7 quad core, its clock speed is just too low for 720p. It may be too slow for streaming in general. I've streamed HD on Xsplit before and it was decently smooth. What would my settings be if I wanted to stream 612p or 480p?
Enable Turbo Boost in bios and use all 8 threads while streaming and u'll be fine...
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On September 16 2012 01:53 Aelfric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 01:24 inphinity_ wrote:On September 16 2012 01:20 LgNKami wrote:On September 16 2012 01:08 inphinity_ wrote:Hi, I'm trying to get into streaming, but my internet/computer isn't too good. Could anyone help me out? I want to stream in the highest quality possible. If anyone needs any more info, just ask. I'm pretty new to the whole streaming thing. If it matters, I'll be streaming Dota 2 on 1280x720 resolution. your cpu is way too slow. even with it being a i7 quad core, its clock speed is just too low for 720p. It may be too slow for streaming in general. I've streamed HD on Xsplit before and it was decently smooth. What would my settings be if I wanted to stream 612p or 480p? Enable Turbo Boost in bios and use all 8 threads while streaming and u'll be fine...
Would you mind telling me how to do that? And should it be enabled ONLY when I'm streaming, or is it okay to have it enabled all the time?
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In your bios (while computer booting you generally press "del" to open that blue settings screen) there should be an option to turn CPU turbo boost "on". It will boost your CPU to 2.8 ghz max. Which is way too much improvoment from 1.6ghz. Now you have i7 which means you have 4 cores and 8 threads. If you stream with Dxtory there is an option to choose how many threads Dxtory work with you are just gonna max it. If you don't and you just stream with FFsplit or Xsplit region then it will work with all threads anyway. But i strongly suggest you to use Dxtory while streaming, it improves your in-game fps and fixes stuttering caused by Normal streaming most of the time.
At the end you'll be able to stream well with an i7.
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On September 16 2012 05:38 Aelfric wrote:
In your bios (while computer booting you generally press "del" to open that blue settings screen) there should be an option to turn CPU turbo boost "on". It will boost your CPU to 2.8 ghz max. Which is way too much improvoment from 1.6ghz. Now you have i7 which means you have 4 cores and 8 threads. If you stream with Dxtory there is an option to choose how many threads Dxtory work with you are just gonna max it. If you don't and you just stream with FFsplit or Xsplit region then it will work with all threads anyway. But i strongly suggest you to use Dxtory while streaming, it improves your in-game fps and fixes stuttering caused by Normal streaming most of the time.
At the end you'll be able to stream well with an i7.
im not too ffamiliar with turbo boost but im 100% sure that when the max turbo boost speed is active, it disables 2 of your cores. Correct me if im wrong but I know thats how it is with the phenom II x6.
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After using Xsplit FMLE DXstory and now FFSplit.
FFSplit gets the single CPU streaming two thumbs up award from me. Seriously, use this one folks.
http://www.twitch.tv/medrea/b/332311167
45 FPS stream Diablo 3.
CPU is an i5-2500k @ 4.0 ghz. 20 down/ 10 up connection.
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Hey guys. I recently downloaded FFSplit and am looking for some recommended settings because my ping jumps with the settings that I currently tried.
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2156080789.png)
AMD FX-6100 6-core ~3.3GHz
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB
XFX Radeon HD 6870
Thanks in advance!
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Hi,
At work now so can't upload my speedtest.net result, but..
out of my head I got 1,34 mb/s upload.
Whenever I tried to stream (with xsplit;p) I just lagged alot, my pc is quite a beast so I don't think it has to do with that.
With lagg I mean ms delay, 1/2 second delay on actions I did ingame. fps lagg was not noticable.
Pc specs:
Intel i7 2600k
Kingston 8GB
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 1280MB
SSD Crucial m4 128GB
Is it possible to stream (with ff split) and be able to run without lagging hardcore? Any tips would be amazing!
Thanks in advance,
Kiwi
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On September 18 2012 15:51 Kiwiandapple wrote:
Hi,
At work now so can't upload my speedtest.net result, but..
out of my head I got 1,34 mb/s upload.
Whenever I tried to stream (with xsplit;p) I just lagged alot, my pc is quite a beast so I don't think it has to do with that.
With lagg I mean ms delay, 1/2 second delay on actions I did ingame. fps lagg was not noticable.
Pc specs:
Intel i7 2600k
Kingston 8GB
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 1280MB
SSD Crucial m4 128GB
Is it possible to stream (with ff split) and be able to run without lagging hardcore? Any tips would be amazing!
Thanks in advance,
Kiwi
Well there is a lot of things you can do, one of them is telling us your bitrate. Second is trying a different streaming server depending on your location. 3rd is telling your stream settings.
Your PC can handle a 1080p stream easy, just depends on your settings.
If you are using 100% of your upload speed you will most likely get clicking delay, when streaming you need to use 60-75% your your upload if you want to utilize the stream, so in your case using 700-900kbps would be good.
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On September 18 2012 16:22 Boblhead wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 15:51 Kiwiandapple wrote:
Hi,
At work now so can't upload my speedtest.net result, but..
out of my head I got 1,34 mb/s upload.
Whenever I tried to stream (with xsplit;p) I just lagged alot, my pc is quite a beast so I don't think it has to do with that.
With lagg I mean ms delay, 1/2 second delay on actions I did ingame. fps lagg was not noticable.
Pc specs:
Intel i7 2600k
Kingston 8GB
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 1280MB
SSD Crucial m4 128GB
Is it possible to stream (with ff split) and be able to run without lagging hardcore? Any tips would be amazing!
Thanks in advance,
Kiwi Well there is a lot of things you can do, one of them is telling us your bitrate. Second is trying a different streaming server depending on your location. 3rd is telling your stream settings. Your PC can handle a 1080p stream easy, just depends on your settings. If you are using 100% of your upload speed you will most likely get clicking delay, when streaming you need to use 60-75% your your upload if you want to utilize the stream, so in your case using 700-900kbps would be good.
Thanks for the reply, as said I am at work right now. So I will give that info when at home. wich will be in around 5 hours. (5 PM CET)
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On September 18 2012 16:22 Boblhead wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 15:51 Kiwiandapple wrote:
Hi,
At work now so can't upload my speedtest.net result, but..
out of my head I got 1,34 mb/s upload.
Whenever I tried to stream (with xsplit;p) I just lagged alot, my pc is quite a beast so I don't think it has to do with that.
With lagg I mean ms delay, 1/2 second delay on actions I did ingame. fps lagg was not noticable.
Pc specs:
Intel i7 2600k
Kingston 8GB
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 1280MB
SSD Crucial m4 128GB
Is it possible to stream (with ff split) and be able to run without lagging hardcore? Any tips would be amazing!
Thanks in advance,
Kiwi Well there is a lot of things you can do, one of them is telling us your bitrate. Second is trying a different streaming server depending on your location. 3rd is telling your stream settings. Your PC can handle a 1080p stream easy, just depends on your settings. If you are using 100% of your upload speed you will most likely get clicking delay, when streaming you need to use 60-75% your your upload if you want to utilize the stream, so in your case using 700-900kbps would be good.
he cant do 1080p with 1.34 upload but he could definitely do 720p with 60fps.
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On September 18 2012 20:02 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 16:22 Boblhead wrote:On September 18 2012 15:51 Kiwiandapple wrote:
Hi,
At work now so can't upload my speedtest.net result, but..
out of my head I got 1,34 mb/s upload.
Whenever I tried to stream (with xsplit;p) I just lagged alot, my pc is quite a beast so I don't think it has to do with that.
With lagg I mean ms delay, 1/2 second delay on actions I did ingame. fps lagg was not noticable.
Pc specs:
Intel i7 2600k
Kingston 8GB
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 1280MB
SSD Crucial m4 128GB
Is it possible to stream (with ff split) and be able to run without lagging hardcore? Any tips would be amazing!
Thanks in advance,
Kiwi Well there is a lot of things you can do, one of them is telling us your bitrate. Second is trying a different streaming server depending on your location. 3rd is telling your stream settings. Your PC can handle a 1080p stream easy, just depends on your settings. If you are using 100% of your upload speed you will most likely get clicking delay, when streaming you need to use 60-75% your your upload if you want to utilize the stream, so in your case using 700-900kbps would be good. he cant do 1080p with 1.34 upload but he could definitely do 720p with 60fps.
Yeah my upload speed is horrible, but 720p is fine for me. I will tell all settings later, thanks allready for the help!
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On September 18 2012 15:35 devastation_ wrote:Hey guys. I recently downloaded FFSplit and am looking for some recommended settings because my ping jumps with the settings that I currently tried. AMD FX-6100 6-core ~3.3GHz G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB XFX Radeon HD 6870 Thanks in advance!
Any help?
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On September 19 2012 00:54 devastation_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 15:35 devastation_ wrote:Hey guys. I recently downloaded FFSplit and am looking for some recommended settings because my ping jumps with the settings that I currently tried. AMD FX-6100 6-core ~3.3GHz G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB XFX Radeon HD 6870 Thanks in advance! Any help?
Hey, set your resolution to 1280x720, fps to 45, and bitrate to 1400. Set your audio bitrate to 128 and leave preset at default.
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Hej back home,
After reading alot here and abit on forums, I think my stream is running amazing now, no ingame lagg anymore! ^^
Thanks alot for this amazing thread. helped me a bunch!
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i dunno how to stream on ffsplit
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Ok, I have a problem here that I wasn't able to solve on my own for now.
I have a working stream at 90+- FPS for SC2 using my rig (120+FPS without stream). I have changed my graphic card (GT230) for a Sapphire ATI HD7750.
Ingame prior to stream I can get up to 200 FPS. Now I am getting 30-40 FPS. My processor and other hardware has not been changed. Drivers are updated to the latest as of yet.FFSplit is also the same version. Can anyone provide some assistance?
Meanwhile, will continue finding and testing for answers. Thanks.
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On September 20 2012 22:39 Marksman wrote:
Ok, I have a problem here that I wasn't able to solve on my own for now.
I have a working stream at 90+- FPS for SC2 using my rig (120+FPS without stream). I have changed my graphic card (GT230) for a Sapphire ATI HD7750.
Ingame prior to stream I can get up to 200 FPS. Now I am getting 30-40 FPS. My processor and other hardware has not been changed. Drivers are updated to the latest as of yet.FFSplit is also the same version. Can anyone provide some assistance?
Meanwhile, will continue finding and testing for answers. Thanks.
Are you using Dxtory? Make sure Catalyst is installed. Turn off any kind of anti-aliasing settings from the control panel.
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1) No. I'm using FFSplit Overlay 2.05b5
2) Catalyst is already installed.
3) All anti-aliasing settings in control panel are already off.
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damn i went to FFSplit irc chat they they told my i need a brand new cpu and comupter
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On September 21 2012 02:34 nucLeaRTV wrote:
So, what's your spec?
Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Pentium E2180 @ 2.00GHz
Conroe 65nm Technology
RAM
3.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15)
Motherboard
ASUSTek Computer INC. Leonite2 (Socket 775)
Graphics
HP w2207 (1680x1050@59Hz)
512MB GeForce 8400GS (PNY)
Hard Drives
335GB Seagate ST3360320AS (RAID)
Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
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On September 21 2012 03:10 Vegeta100 wrote:Operating System MS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 CPU Intel Pentium E2180 @ 2.00GHz Conroe 65nm Technology RAM 3.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15) Motherboard ASUSTek Computer INC. Leonite2 (Socket 775) Graphics HP w2207 (1680x1050@59Hz) 512MB GeForce 8400GS (PNY) Hard Drives 335GB Seagate ST3360320AS (RAID) Optical Drives TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N Audio Realtek High Definition Audio
You wont be able to stream with those specs. Need at least a Phenom II x3 to be able to play and stream at the same time.
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I really want to use this program, but it crashes after streaming for more than about 45 minutes.
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On September 21 2012 11:13 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2012 03:10 Vegeta100 wrote:On September 21 2012 02:34 nucLeaRTV wrote:
So, what's your spec? Operating System MS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 CPU Intel Pentium E2180 @ 2.00GHz Conroe 65nm Technology RAM 3.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15) Motherboard ASUSTek Computer INC. Leonite2 (Socket 775) Graphics HP w2207 (1680x1050@59Hz) 512MB GeForce 8400GS (PNY) Hard Drives 335GB Seagate ST3360320AS (RAID) Optical Drives TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N Audio Realtek High Definition Audio You wont be able to stream with those specs. Need at least a Phenom II x3 to be able to play and stream at the same time.
yeah that want they told me lol
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On September 16 2012 07:55 Medrea wrote:After using Xsplit FMLE DXstory and now FFSplit. FFSplit gets the single CPU streaming two thumbs up award from me. Seriously, use this one folks. http://www.twitch.tv/medrea/b/33231116745 FPS stream Diablo 3. CPU is an i5-2500k @ 4.0 ghz. 20 down/ 10 up connection.
Ive got some 1080p60 VOD's of sc2 that go on for minutes with no frame drops (need to drop to 45-50fps for 100% solid) but still runs great (i7 950, 3.84ghz), you can push pretty far up on resolution/fps especially if you use superfast preset, im more concerned about performance hits, gonna do some FFsplit testing now, not with diablo though, i love the game but it performs awfully with or without any kind of capture in my experience, stutters everywhere.
Initial results with Torchlight 2 demo - Works great, 1080p50@superfast on 3 cores (+ht) but the game is pulled from ~470fps to the very low 200's from 60fps capture. Basically no reason to use over xsplit for performance reasons in this case.
Gotta say though for a CPU bound game this is pretty funny to look at http://i.imgur.com/iQlMk.png
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On September 21 2012 13:04 tsuxiit wrote:
I really want to use this program, but it crashes after streaming for more than about 45 minutes.
that means your bitrate is too high.
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My time then to ask for recommendations, specs in spoiler. I am also clueless when it comes to understanding how computers work.
+ Show Spoiler +Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5 650 @ 3.20GHz
Clarkdale 32nm Technology
RAM
4,00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P7P55D (LGA1156)
Graphics
W2240 (1920x1080@60Hz)
L19W-10 (1440x900@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (Gigabyte)
Hard Drives
298GB Western Digital WDC WD3200AAJS-65VWA0 ATA Device (SATA)
932GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (SATA)
Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N ATA Device
Audio
VIA High Definition Audio
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I wish there was some kind of thank you button on this forum. Thanks!
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On September 22 2012 00:20 Xacez wrote:My time then to ask for recommendations, specs in spoiler. I am also clueless when it comes to understanding how computers work. + Show Spoiler +Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5 650 @ 3.20GHz
Clarkdale 32nm Technology
RAM
4,00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P7P55D (LGA1156)
Graphics
W2240 (1920x1080@60Hz)
L19W-10 (1440x900@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (Gigabyte)
Hard Drives
298GB Western Digital WDC WD3200AAJS-65VWA0 ATA Device (SATA)
932GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (SATA)
Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N ATA Device
Audio
VIA High Definition Audio
You should be able to get away with 480p. Your i5 is a dual core but it does have hyperthreading and a decent clock speed so 480p should be np. If 480 drops your frames too much, try 432p.
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Heya, I have kindof a weird problem when trying to stream. Everytime I start the stream it runs fine for about 4-5 minutes then starts to get extremely choppy no matter what my settings are in FFsplit. My computer and internet should be able to handle it perfectly but I can't seem to find out what the problem is. Here is an example.
My current specs are:
i5 2500k @4.5ghz
HD7970 @ 1125/1575 mhz
8gb 1333mhz DDR3 Ram 7-7-7-21
1080p Native Res
My internet:
25Mbs Down/ 4Mbs Up
Current FFsplit settings:
BR: 2700
Encode: Faster
Res: 720p
fps:30
Audio BR: 96
AC: Stereo
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Check your temperatures on load Gravenimage
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On September 23 2012 22:56 Gravenimage wrote:Heya, I have kindof a weird problem when trying to stream. Everytime I start the stream it runs fine for about 4-5 minutes then starts to get extremely choppy no matter what my settings are in FFsplit. My computer and internet should be able to handle it perfectly but I can't seem to find out what the problem is. Here is an example. My current specs are: i5 2500k @4.5ghz HD7970 @ 1125/1575 mhz 8gb 1333mhz DDR3 Ram 7-7-7-21 1080p Native Res My internet: 25Mbs Down/ 4Mbs Up Current FFsplit settings: BR: 2700 Encode: Faster Res: 720p fps:30 Audio BR: 96 AC: Stereo
turn the encoder back to default and bump your fps up to 45. It will look better and wont impact your fps with that cpu
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On September 23 2012 23:15 RiSkyToss wrote:
Check your temperatures on load Gravenimage
Temps are fine. I have an NH-D14 and very nice airflow in my case.
CPU cores 1-4 @ 55-60C
GPU @ 70C
And Kami thats not the problem. Stream gets uncontrollably choppy no matter what FFsplit settings I use.
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For example. Here is my stream again with LgnKami's suggested settings.
Bitrate 2700
Encoder: Default
720p @ 45fps
Still very choppy for no apparent reason.
Also ran HWiNFO64 in the background. Cpu temps topped out @45C with 82% usage.
*edit* I should note that I get no fps drop in game with the choppiness. I am running the game on Ultra with all CPU intensive settings turned to low except for Effects on ultra. I've also tried running all low settings but that also has no affect on the choppiness.
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On September 23 2012 23:46 Gravenimage wrote:For example. Here is my stream again with LgnKami's suggested settings. Bitrate 2700 Encoder: Default 720p @ 45fps Still very choppy for no apparent reason. Also ran HWiNFO64 in the background. Cpu temps topped out @45C with 82% usage. *edit* I should note that I get no fps drop in game with the choppiness. I am running the game on Ultra with all CPU intensive settings turned to low except for Effects on ultra. I've also tried running all low settings but that also has no affect on the choppiness.
I dont know why i didnt think of this before but lower your bitrate also. 2700 is for a good 1080p stream. Lower your bitrate to 1500
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Have you turned off the "enable windows aero" option?
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I have areo off by default Risky.
Thank's so much Kami, worked like a charm.
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On September 24 2012 00:13 Gravenimage wrote:
I have areo off by default Risky.
Thank's so much Kami, worked like a charm.
npnp glad to help yo
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1500 is kiiinda low though, dreamhacks 720p60 uses over double that AFAIK
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On September 24 2012 11:58 Cyro wrote:
1500 is kiiinda low though, dreamhacks 720p60 uses over double that AFAIK
dreamhack is also using professional production equipment.
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I have 20down/10up internet and my speedtest results average about 7 mb/s up to a location near the twitch RTMP Im sending data to.
So I set my bitrate 4.5 mb/s, think thats too high? I noticed sometimes my stream will turn to shit, I think maybe the twitch RTMP isnt fast enough?
Ive tried other RTMP locations BTW, this is the best one.
Also I was told that if you set the bitrate too high some people wont be able to watch it because they dont have good enough internet, is that true?
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On September 24 2012 15:07 Medrea wrote:
I have 20down/10up internet and my speedtest results average about 7 mb/s up to a location near the twitch RTMP Im sending data to.
So I set my bitrate 4.5 mb/s, think thats too high? I noticed sometimes my stream will turn to shit, I think maybe the twitch RTMP isnt fast enough?
Ive tried other RTMP locations BTW, this is the best one.
Also I was told that if you set the bitrate too high some people wont be able to watch it because they dont have good enough internet, is that true?
Personally I wouldn't stream anything more than like 2.5k until you get partnered, otherwise like you said some people with shitty internet connections won't be able to watch. Why your stream will sometimes turn to shit I guess it just depends on the twitch server and or your ISP, but i suspect that if you did lower your bitrate then you would have no problem with your stream quality. Plus usually daytime is when most traffic is being used and you might not be getting the full 4.5mb/s upload to the twitch server. I would say try 2-3mb/s and see if you get your full 2-3mb/s while your streaming.
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On September 24 2012 17:02 Boblhead wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 15:07 Medrea wrote:
I have 20down/10up internet and my speedtest results average about 7 mb/s up to a location near the twitch RTMP Im sending data to.
So I set my bitrate 4.5 mb/s, think thats too high? I noticed sometimes my stream will turn to shit, I think maybe the twitch RTMP isnt fast enough?
Ive tried other RTMP locations BTW, this is the best one.
Also I was told that if you set the bitrate too high some people wont be able to watch it because they dont have good enough internet, is that true? Personally I wouldn't stream anything more than like 2.5k until you get partnered, otherwise like you said some people with shitty internet connections won't be able to watch. Why your stream will sometimes turn to shit I guess it just depends on the twitch server and or your ISP, but i suspect that if you did lower your bitrate then you would have no problem with your stream quality. Plus usually daytime is when most traffic is being used and you might not be getting the full 4.5mb/s upload to the twitch server. I would say try 2-3mb/s and see if you get your full 2-3mb/s while your streaming.
Ok then how does this work. If I specify a lower bitrate what happens? Does my CPU have to work harder? Im only using an i5-2500k.
I lowered my resolution since that seems to work well with lowering bandwidth.
Im still not 100 percent on what the presets even mean. Especially versus the bitrate. I always prefer to lower stream quality versus dropping frames. What does this mean in terms of how I choose my settings?
Kudos if you can answer all of that.
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If you lower your bitrate your stream quality will go down slightly. Higher bitrate = less pixelation which means smoother transistion when moving your screen. Your CPU does not have to work harder considering if your preset is the same your encoding the same frames with less bandwidth.
Well what did you lower your streaming resolution to? Most people will agree that like 480p is anywhere from 600-1500kbps, 720p being 1500-3000kbps and 1080p 3000-5000kbps. It works out for you as well since encoding a lower resolution takes some strain off your CPU.
now with presets its really preference. The faster the preset the faster your CPU encodes the frames which means if you choose like ultra fast and 1500kbps and like 720p you stream will have a little distortion when moving your screen around in a game. The slower the preset is pretty much just your CPU takes longer to encode which means more CPU strain but overall you can squeeze out a better product with a similar bandwidth usage. So lets take the fast preset with 720p stream @ 1500kbps your stream will look a lot more crisp, but at the cost of more CPU usage.
So if you have a decent overclock you shouldn't have a problem streaming 720p on fast preset. There will always be a performance impact on the game, so you just have to find the preset/performance ratio you feel comfortable with. Of course the FPS you choose as well will have impact and the audio bitrate as well. Personally again 24fps is fine takes less strain than 30fps but to the human eye 24 and 30 is little difference.
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What is rtmp?
So confused where to stream to.. I'm not tech savvy at all, so I just put in "rtmp://live.justin.tv/app/'the numbers from my key'"
Edit: Nevermind I'm retarded
twitch.tv/choisoo932 :DDDDDDDDDDDD
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Ive started streaming 1280X800
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On September 24 2012 15:07 Medrea wrote:
I have 20down/10up internet and my speedtest results average about 7 mb/s up to a location near the twitch RTMP Im sending data to.
So I set my bitrate 4.5 mb/s, think thats too high? I noticed sometimes my stream will turn to shit, I think maybe the twitch RTMP isnt fast enough?
Ive tried other RTMP locations BTW, this is the best one.
Also I was told that if you set the bitrate too high some people wont be able to watch it because they dont have good enough internet, is that true?
4.5mbit is probably a bit high, should be fine for most but twitch seems wonky with higher bitrate streams, 3k is a good number.
If you are uploading at 3k and somebody only has 2.5k download, they wont be able to watch, pretty simple
Bitrate wont affect cpu usage, preset/resolution/fps will, resolution multiplied by FPS is simple, preset is just trading off compression efficiency for encoding ability, sweet spot is Veryfast IMO, if you bump to Superfast you need like double the bitrate for the same quality and only gain like 5-15% encoding speed.
An overclocked 2500k (or even stock) you should be able to throw pretty much anything at, with sc2, 720p@60fps@veryfast or 1920x1080@30fps@veryfast (at high resolution streams its best to play game at 16 : 9 as that is most common) are around your limits (i can pretty comfortably do both on an i7 950 without extreme overclock), if you are streaming 1280x800 at 30fps, you should be able to drop a couple presets without a problem but at the bitrates you have avalible you probably wont see a difference unless you are limiting by some quality factor and monitoring bandwidth usage which pretty much nobody does AFAIK.
In my experience almost all of the performance hit (lower framerate, laggy feel) from streaming comes from capturing the video, not encoding, so as long as none of the cpu threads that xsplit is using are going above like ~85-90% under stress you shouldnt have major issues, or if cpu usage is low on xsplits threads, you can probably use a slower preset and/or higher resolution without having major adverse effects on your gameplay performance, although capturing screen at higher FPS tends to hurt a lot.
Be aware though that different games will use CPU in different ways, and often be harder or easier to encode than sc2, so if you are using anything other than very loose settings you will probably have to do some quick tuning if you are jumping between games. Torchlight 2 for example will load 1 thread of my CPU to 99%, and i have no idea how x/ffsplit would act with taxing settings without affinity set, while GW2 will load CPU on average across threads around ~2.5x harder than sc2 so you have less encoding headroom
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http://www.twitch.tv/medrea/b/333363887
Borderlands 2.
800p
60 FPS
4500 kb/s
Superfast preset.
i5-2500k + 7970
Im really pleased with how this video turned out wonder if I can keep this up though. I tried with and without Vsync and I think that asking for Vsync is a bit much. in the end I might drop the stream FPS but right now Im amazed Im streaming 60 fps video with just an i5.
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On September 25 2012 10:14 Medrea wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/medrea/b/333363887Borderlands 2. 800p 60 FPS 4500 kb/s Superfast preset. i5-2500k + 7970 Im really pleased with how this video turned out wonder if I can keep this up though. I tried with and without Vsync and I think that asking for Vsync is a bit much. in the end I might drop the stream FPS but right now Im amazed Im streaming 60 fps video with just an i5.
is bl2 any good? I played the first 5 minutes of bl1 and was not impressed
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Borderlands seems to have a love/hate thing going on with it. I really liked the first Borderlands.
I think people have a big bias around the whole cell-shaded thing. Thats not going away. Borderlands 2 is cell-shaded.
On topic. This game is very friendly with streaming so far. At least I think so.
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On September 25 2012 10:52 Medrea wrote:
Borderlands seems to have a love/hate thing going on with it. I really liked the first Borderlands.
I think people have a big bias around the whole cell-shaded thing. Thats not going away. Borderlands 2 is cell-shaded.
On topic. This game is very friendly with streaming so far. At least I think so.
I love the cell shaded graphics. It reminds me of games like Jet Set Radio Future and Dragon Ball Budokai II and III
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omg. ffsplit has volume level option now? just keeps getting betterr
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On September 25 2012 10:14 Medrea wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/medrea/b/333363887Borderlands 2. 800p 60 FPS 4500 kb/s Superfast preset. i5-2500k + 7970 Im really pleased with how this video turned out wonder if I can keep this up though. I tried with and without Vsync and I think that asking for Vsync is a bit much. in the end I might drop the stream FPS but right now Im amazed Im streaming 60 fps video with just an i5.
People underestimate encoding power a bunch, especially those who dont understand resolution. "1080p" being 2.25x "720p", Destiny's original "amazing" 1080p30 stream was done at Faster preset on a first gen i7, there is plenty of room for trading down resolution to FPS, and hyperthreading or not, a sandy bridge quad @4.5ghz will still beat a 9xx in the ~3.9ghz range (i forgot his exact overclock)
Unless you are doing a local record IMO, dont use superfast - going from veryfast to superfast is around an ~80+% increase in bitrate requirements for the same quality, for only a ~10% faster encode (ballpark figures) so you are fucking yourself pretty hard by livestreaming with it. Veryfast is optimal IMO unless you have a ton of CPU room (you wont with 800p60) and want to increase compression efficiency by like 20-30% or something. Those kind of margins are achievable, but very expensive.
Edit: Ive done further testing, same video (1280x720, 25fps) ran through x264, crf20, gives me a bitrate of 2932kbps for Veryfast and 6574 for Superfast (224.2% data requirements) and the difference in cpu power to encode is marginal at best. Presets between ~veryfast and slow or slower give decent tradeoffs, but placebo and super/ultrafast are edge-of-the-spectrum settings that are not really for general usage it seems
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This looks great ^_^. Gonna mess around with it, but could anyone recommend me some settings? Thanks! :D
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AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE oc'd to 4.0ghz
Nvidia GTX 560 TI
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OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point.
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On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point.
Pretty similar, but the DirectX overlay system in OBS is very nice.
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How is performance in FFSplit ?
Cause you cant escape the performance hit as encoding will strain your CPU no matter what software you are running. The encoding needs to be done somehow, either be dedicated hardware or a software solution using your CPU.
Edit:
Ive run some tests and this is not better than XSplit. Its a good free software but considering the amount of features you are lacking compared to XSplit its worth the small bucks for XSplit if youre a streamer.
First the performance.....its not faster than XSplit. Encoding will ALWAYS be stressful to your CPU unless you get dedicated hardware. What FFSplit is using default is "Screen Region" which is LESS cpu intensive than using for example game source of xsplit or DXtory. BUT it looks 5x worse. The animation is choppy and you can also use Screen Region in XSplit if you want the performance gain trade of quality loss.
And the overlay options are really really lacking compared to XSplit. I mean its a good free software but it has a long way before reaching XSplit quality.
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On September 30 2012 02:25 Avean wrote:
How is performance in FFSplit ?
Cause you cant escape the performance hit as encoding will strain your CPU no matter what software you are running. The encoding needs to be done somehow, either be dedicated hardware or a software solution using your CPU.
Edit:
Ive run some tests and this is not better than XSplit. Its a good free software but considering the amount of features you are lacking compared to XSplit its worth the small bucks for XSplit if youre a streamer.
First the performance.....its not faster than XSplit. Encoding will ALWAYS be stressful to your CPU unless you get dedicated hardware. What FFSplit is using default is "Screen Region" which is LESS cpu intensive than using for example game source of xsplit or DXtory. BUT it looks 5x worse. The animation is choppy and you can also use Screen Region in XSplit if you want the performance gain trade of quality loss.
And the overlay options are really really lacking compared to XSplit. I mean its a good free software but it has a long way before reaching XSplit quality.
choppy? whats choppy about it? i stream at 45fps with ffsplit and it seems pretty smooth to me.
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On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point.
what is OBS?
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On September 30 2012 04:30 Kaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point. what is OBS?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/
Very impressive little piece of software. It and FFsplit are pretty similar in almost every way except for the overlay system.
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On September 30 2012 04:49 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 04:30 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point. what is OBS? http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/Very impressive little piece of software. It and FFsplit are pretty similar in almost every way except for the overlay system.
WTF?
This is incredible!
1080p 60fps is smoother on OBS than 720p 30fps is on xsplit, ffsplit... LOL :D
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On September 30 2012 02:25 Avean wrote:
How is performance in FFSplit ?
Cause you cant escape the performance hit as encoding will strain your CPU no matter what software you are running. The encoding needs to be done somehow, either be dedicated hardware or a software solution using your CPU.
Edit:
Ive run some tests and this is not better than XSplit. Its a good free software but considering the amount of features you are lacking compared to XSplit its worth the small bucks for XSplit if youre a streamer.
First the performance.....its not faster than XSplit. Encoding will ALWAYS be stressful to your CPU unless you get dedicated hardware. What FFSplit is using default is "Screen Region" which is LESS cpu intensive than using for example game source of xsplit or DXtory. BUT it looks 5x worse. The animation is choppy and you can also use Screen Region in XSplit if you want the performance gain trade of quality loss.
And the overlay options are really really lacking compared to XSplit. I mean its a good free software but it has a long way before reaching XSplit quality.
Xsplit forces you to preview what your streaming which has an overhead all of its own and unless they have changed it, you can't turn it off which is pretty fail. Xsplit simply does not work at all for me. i5-2500k, I can stream 60 FPS with FFsplit but Xsplit stutters and jitters all over the place.
FFsplit is nice and smooth and doesnt detract from my experience much, while Xsplit forces everything to be hyper choppy and 15 FPS.
Also I wish someone would come up with GPU encoding. That would rule.
I would be able to stream anything and everything in 120 FPS.
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On September 30 2012 05:34 Kaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 04:49 WTFZerg wrote:On September 30 2012 04:30 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point. what is OBS? http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/Very impressive little piece of software. It and FFsplit are pretty similar in almost every way except for the overlay system. WTF? This is incredible! 1080p 60fps is smoother on OBS than 720p 30fps is on xsplit, ffsplit... LOL :D
I get about the same performance.
However, regardless of whether you use FFsplit or OBS, it makes me happy that there are legitimate, free alternatives to XSplit.
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On September 30 2012 06:05 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 05:34 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 04:49 WTFZerg wrote:On September 30 2012 04:30 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point. what is OBS? http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/Very impressive little piece of software. It and FFsplit are pretty similar in almost every way except for the overlay system. WTF? This is incredible! 1080p 60fps is smoother on OBS than 720p 30fps is on xsplit, ffsplit... LOL :D I get about the same performance. However, regardless of whether you use FFsplit or OBS, it makes me happy that there are legitimate, free alternatives to XSplit.
OBS is rather glitchy is it not?
It doesn't detect my video capture devices, so i'm unable to stream using it..
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On September 30 2012 06:24 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 06:05 WTFZerg wrote:On September 30 2012 05:34 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 04:49 WTFZerg wrote:On September 30 2012 04:30 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point. what is OBS? http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/Very impressive little piece of software. It and FFsplit are pretty similar in almost every way except for the overlay system. WTF? This is incredible! 1080p 60fps is smoother on OBS than 720p 30fps is on xsplit, ffsplit... LOL :D I get about the same performance. However, regardless of whether you use FFsplit or OBS, it makes me happy that there are legitimate, free alternatives to XSplit. OBS is rather glitchy is it not? It doesn't detect my video capture devices, so i'm unable to stream using it..
I'm not too sure about the overall state of the program. I didn't have any issues with it in the few minutes I played with it, so I dunno.
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Is it possible to stream on a Core2 Duo E8400 / HD4870?, since I don't have access to my main PC for a while. I tried streaming but kept coming up with error and was wondering if that was caused by my CPU not being powerful enough or if I had my settings too high (Was trying to stream at 720p @ 30FPS)
I miss my 2600k
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On September 30 2012 06:24 Flameling wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 06:05 WTFZerg wrote:On September 30 2012 05:34 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 04:49 WTFZerg wrote:On September 30 2012 04:30 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point. what is OBS? http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/Very impressive little piece of software. It and FFsplit are pretty similar in almost every way except for the overlay system. WTF? This is incredible! 1080p 60fps is smoother on OBS than 720p 30fps is on xsplit, ffsplit... LOL :D I get about the same performance. However, regardless of whether you use FFsplit or OBS, it makes me happy that there are legitimate, free alternatives to XSplit. OBS is rather glitchy is it not? It doesn't detect my video capture devices, so i'm unable to stream using it..
You should post on the forums about it with whatever info you can. The guy making OBS is usually really quick to respond to stuff and that's the only way to fix things like that
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On September 30 2012 13:33 Warchamp7 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 06:24 Flameling wrote:On September 30 2012 06:05 WTFZerg wrote:On September 30 2012 05:34 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 04:49 WTFZerg wrote:On September 30 2012 04:30 Kaladin wrote:On September 30 2012 01:37 RiSkyToss wrote:
OBS at this current point > FFsplit at this current point. what is OBS? http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/Very impressive little piece of software. It and FFsplit are pretty similar in almost every way except for the overlay system. WTF? This is incredible! 1080p 60fps is smoother on OBS than 720p 30fps is on xsplit, ffsplit... LOL :D I get about the same performance. However, regardless of whether you use FFsplit or OBS, it makes me happy that there are legitimate, free alternatives to XSplit. OBS is rather glitchy is it not? It doesn't detect my video capture devices, so i'm unable to stream using it.. You should post on the forums about it with whatever info you can. The guy making OBS is usually really quick to respond to stuff and that's the only way to fix things like that
eh, i've been feeling lazy. i'm on it.
done
Edit: Well, within 1 hr, problem fixed. (Thanks to Jim, Warchamp7, and R1CH) lol
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On September 30 2012 09:34 BbBoS wrote:Is it possible to stream on a Core2 Duo E8400 / HD4870?, since I don't have access to my main PC for a while. I tried streaming but kept coming up with error and was wondering if that was caused by my CPU not being powerful enough or if I had my settings too high (Was trying to stream at 720p @ 30FPS) I miss my 2600k
woah, 720p on a core 2 duo? if you're streaming bw you should be able to do 480p but otherwise, i dont see you streaming any recent games as most games are cpu bound nowadays. If you had a Q8400 that wouldve been a different story. I had a q8200 for a while and could do 720p on it while it was only oc'd to 3.14 ghz.
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On September 30 2012 14:36 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 09:34 BbBoS wrote:Is it possible to stream on a Core2 Duo E8400 / HD4870?, since I don't have access to my main PC for a while. I tried streaming but kept coming up with error and was wondering if that was caused by my CPU not being powerful enough or if I had my settings too high (Was trying to stream at 720p @ 30FPS) I miss my 2600k woah, 720p on a core 2 duo? if you're streaming bw you should be able to do 480p but otherwise, i dont see you streaming any recent games as most games are cpu bound nowadays. If you had a Q8400 that wouldve been a different story. I had a q8200 for a while and could do 720p on it while it was only oc'd to 3.14 ghz.
What sort of CPU would I need to stream at 720p / 1080p @ 60FPS and does graphics card have any affect on streaming performance?
Edit - Also would 9mb upload speed be able to cope with the above as well?
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FFsplit is just great! I tested it and I'm fully satisfied. It's faster than XSplit, easy to use and free. Free XSplit with its limitations is a piece of crap . Donated 10 bucks =)
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GPU has nothing to do with streaming. 9mbit upload is plenty for 720 or 1080p.
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The only thing I don't really like about FFsplit is the overlay feature, as it was so easy in XSplit. If they havent updated the overlay feature since I last tried it that is.
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On October 07 2012 00:51 Nabutso wrote:
GPU has nothing to do with streaming. 9mbit upload is plenty for 720 or 1080p.
CPU, however, does. There is no way he can Stream 720p at 60fps.
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This program is....ABSOLUTELY Unbelieveable...Thank you LgNKami for sharing. I set up my stream in 1 minute, really really simple program
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1) what do you guys think has the best performance(lowest cpu and gpu load) for streaming with win xp 32 bit
... ffsplit does not work with xp, so what would you advice, xsplit, fmle or somethin totally different?
2) is it normal that if i stream with xsplit, starcraft 2 has enough frames ingame in every situation while streaming, but the stream looks like he has only 10-15fps, although i did adjust 25fps
what i mean is, if my cpu/gpu is too slow, will i notice it first on the stream, or is this more like a sign for wrong settings or sth like this? im streaming on win xp prof 32 bit with a i3-3220, 4gb ddr3 and ati hd 4870
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On October 13 2012 06:23 Namelless wrote:
1) what do you guys think has the best performance(lowest cpu and gpu load) for streaming with win xp 32 bit
... ffsplit does not work with xp, so what would you advice, xsplit, fmle or somethin totally different?
2) is it normal that if i stream with xsplit, starcraft 2 has enough frames ingame in every situation while streaming, but the stream looks like he has only 10-15fps, although i did adjust 25fps
what i mean is, if my cpu/gpu is too slow, will i notice it first on the stream, or is this more like a sign for wrong settings or sth like this? im streaming on win xp prof 32 bit with a i3-3220, 4gb ddr3 and ati hd 4870
its because your cpu is technically a dual core cpu. You need a native quad core to be able to stream decently. You may be able to do 480p or 432p with an i3 though. Try it out and let me know what happens.
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i did theese resolutions already, even lower and also much higher ... but it nearly doesn't affect the problem, my stream has really low fps (at least it looks like that would be the problem) i also tried to close sc2 and open a random youtube video .... still the same problem
edit: already solved the problem, unchecked the box for the option "optimize for non motion picture"
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On October 13 2012 06:23 Namelless wrote:
1) what do you guys think has the best performance(lowest cpu and gpu load) for streaming with win xp 32 bit
... ffsplit does not work with xp, so what would you advice, xsplit, fmle or somethin totally different?
2) is it normal that if i stream with xsplit, starcraft 2 has enough frames ingame in every situation while streaming, but the stream looks like he has only 10-15fps, although i did adjust 25fps
what i mean is, if my cpu/gpu is too slow, will i notice it first on the stream, or is this more like a sign for wrong settings or sth like this? im streaming on win xp prof 32 bit with a i3-3220, 4gb ddr3 and ati hd 4870
Adoble FMLE 2.5 command line version + SCHF DSF.
I used to be streaming back when I had a E8400 dual core about 2 years ago.
Here you can see a video of the quality that I got out of it :
http://www.twitch.tv/ruxx/b/283771312
This is also pretty low bitrate (I don't remember exactly but I think it was 700kb/s upload.
You can see my FPS in the top left.
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On October 13 2012 11:24 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 06:23 Namelless wrote:
1) what do you guys think has the best performance(lowest cpu and gpu load) for streaming with win xp 32 bit
... ffsplit does not work with xp, so what would you advice, xsplit, fmle or somethin totally different?
2) is it normal that if i stream with xsplit, starcraft 2 has enough frames ingame in every situation while streaming, but the stream looks like he has only 10-15fps, although i did adjust 25fps
what i mean is, if my cpu/gpu is too slow, will i notice it first on the stream, or is this more like a sign for wrong settings or sth like this? im streaming on win xp prof 32 bit with a i3-3220, 4gb ddr3 and ati hd 4870 Adoble FMLE 2.5 command line version + SCHF DSF. I used to be streaming back when I had a E8400 dual core about 2 years ago. Here you can see a video of the quality that I got out of it : http://www.twitch.tv/ruxx/b/283771312This is also pretty low bitrate (I don't remember exactly but I think it was 700kb/s upload. You can see my FPS in the top left.
That's not very watchable >.>
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So right now I'm using AmaRec Video Capture to take my capture carded xbox360 as my video source so that means I won't be able to record a webcam as well since it takes up my overlay? Because right now I'm enjoy the incredibly superior quality I'm getting from Amarec as compared to XSplit when it takes my capture card, for some reason XSplit just makes it look nasty =/ but that is neither here nor there.
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Hello guys. I just read pretty much majority of all the posts in thread and now I'm looking forward to set my stream on. Since upload on "home" connections in Croatia is total crap I use dual carrier hspa stick...will usually stream over the night when speeds are the best...at that time I get around 14mbit down and 2-3mbit up(let's say it's 2stable).
So my specs are:
i5 750@3.7ghz w/ coolermaster hyper evo 212
8gb g.skill ripjaws
gigabyte gtx460oc 768mb
i've got 16:10 screen, playing on 1680x1050 res so I'd like to stream something close to 720p, i guess in my case its 1280x800 res
i'd really like it to be smooth and stable and that I get decent fps(I really dont mind playing on all low settings as long as I can get more fps)...eventho most of you will say u can't see diff between 60 and 100 unless you got 120hz screen and I'm not gonna discuss about it, but i think i can feel the difference when going through the screen with mouse and additional fps really helps me a lot
so propose smth better than this:
ffsplit overlay 2.0b
1500kbit
faster/veryfast?
1280x800
45fps
112kbps stereo(listening decent rock music while streaming so i dont want terrible xsplit sound)
thx in advance!
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You are gonna want to use veryfast preset. And I think 45 FPS is going to be aggressive for a few things.
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Should I bother streaming at all if my upload is only 0.65 Mbps? I was thinking of using this program but if my speed is to low then I will say screw it and not bother at all.
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On November 02 2012 11:34 Genie1 wrote:
Should I bother streaming at all if my upload is only 0.65 Mbps? I was thinking of using this program but if my speed is to low then I will say screw it and not bother at all.
You can but your pc will have to pick up ALOT of the slack from your connection. What resolution are you using as well as your pc specs.
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On November 02 2012 13:52 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 11:34 Genie1 wrote:
Should I bother streaming at all if my upload is only 0.65 Mbps? I was thinking of using this program but if my speed is to low then I will say screw it and not bother at all. You can but your pc will have to pick up ALOT of the slack from your connection. What resolution are you using as well as your pc specs.
Radeon HD 7750
Phenom 2 x4 925
8GB of ram
1280x1024 is my native resolution so I will have to play in windowed mode if it is necessary which it probably will be.
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On October 27 2012 09:34 frozzz wrote:
Hello guys. I just read pretty much majority of all the posts in thread and now I'm looking forward to set my stream on. Since upload on "home" connections in Croatia is total crap I use dual carrier hspa stick...will usually stream over the night when speeds are the best...at that time I get around 14mbit down and 2-3mbit up(let's say it's 2stable).
So my specs are:
i5 750@3.7ghz w/ coolermaster hyper evo 212
8gb g.skill ripjaws
gigabyte gtx460oc 768mb
i've got 16:10 screen, playing on 1680x1050 res so I'd like to stream something close to 720p, i guess in my case its 1280x800 res
i'd really like it to be smooth and stable and that I get decent fps(I really dont mind playing on all low settings as long as I can get more fps)...eventho most of you will say u can't see diff between 60 and 100 unless you got 120hz screen and I'm not gonna discuss about it, but i think i can feel the difference when going through the screen with mouse and additional fps really helps me a lot
so propose smth better than this:
ffsplit overlay 2.0b
1500kbit
faster/veryfast?
1280x800
45fps
112kbps stereo(listening decent rock music while streaming so i dont want terrible xsplit sound)
thx in advance!
I think with your system you can get a great looking 720p stream at 45fps. That's what i'd recommend to you.
Your upload is questionable though. Try speedtests connecting specifically to the server you connect to in ffsplit. Use a program R1CH created called JTVPing (just search on it) to find out what server to best use (jitter is most important, but you want green/good avg ping).
What fps you stream at and what fps you play at are 2 different things. You'll of course get a performance hit when streaming, but with the right upload settings, your stream should look okay and you shouldn't feel too much input lag.
Stick with the default preset. Preset is Upload & CPU. Each frame is a certain file size. So with 1500 vbv, that means 1500kbit/FPS = image size per frame (so you can see how fps also affects your image quality, BUT, how many fps you can put out in a minute depends on how long it takes your cpu to encode them at a given bitrate). If you slow your preset down, youll have to really increase your bitrate, meaning some people with only like 2mb/s download speed can't even watch your 720 stream, which means less viewers. Just stick with default. Really, it's not worth adjusting, your cpu isn't quick enough, it wouldn't help you, and your upload isn't high enough.
Everything else seems fine. Audio settings, Ive seen all sorts of recommendations but 96 or above is fine. I think you should be able to stream pretty smoothly.
You are gonna want to use veryfast preset. And I think 45 FPS is going to be aggressive for a few things.
his system can definitely handle 45fps. It's not exactly cpu dependent, per se, what your fps is. it's more like it's one of a couple factors that shapes the entire experience...
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You could probably be fine for 1280x800@60fps@veryfast on your CPU in sc2, but increasing your capture framerate will hurt game performance a lot compared to lower, make sure to keep note of that and keep game performance and encoding performance as separate variables
First gen i7 @3.8ghz + HT and i recorded for a while at 1600x900 at 60fps on veryfast which is ~1.4x the pixel counts and IIRC cpu performance is close enough, within 40% margin even without HT.
In any case you shouldn't have any troubles encoding at 45fps
If you slow your preset down, youll have to really increase your bitrate, meaning some people with only like 2mb/s download
Slower preset = longer encoding time = higher encoding efficiency (higher quality at the same bitrate) and faster is the opposite.
Its useful to drop presets some for lower resolution and FPS streams on a powerful system with limited upload i think, but you get very low returns for it - and you shouldnt use a preset faster than veryfast under any situation i think - Veryfast to Superfast lowers CPU requirements by ~6% but more than doubles the bitrate you need for the same quality in my testing
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Hey, i've got a question. First of all, i'm actually too stupid to set up a stream properly i guess, because i tried millions of different things, with little to no result.
First of all, i play at 1680x1050. I found out, i "should" stream at 1152x864, which would be equivalent to 720p (i have actually no clue if that is true). Up until now i tried XSplit (trial), FFsplit, Wirecast (trial), Dxtory, OBS etc or a combination of them, and nothing does really work for me (mainly i guess because i don't really know the basics).
I really like FFsplit, because it feels "lightweight" compared to XSplit, and i want to further use it. But it actually can't "hook" into fullscreen-games, so i tried Dxtory. Which kinda worked in "standard-settings (Dxtory-codec etc)", but looked crap. So i downloaded a x264 codec, (x264vfw), and.. Well. Now it does not work at all anymore, as soon as i start capturing in the game, the stream goes offline. What on earth do i miss?
Could please anyone give me a tip about Dxtory (or maybe an alternative?) for tapping into fullscreen games, or how i get some kind of acceptable quality out of it + ffsplit? Maybe a different codec?
PC-Specs
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Win8 Pro
i5 2500k @ 4x4,4ghz (watercooled, so load is not a problem)
8gb RAM
570 GTX Beast
25mbps down, 5mbps up
Haaaalp.. Please.
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I'm having an audio issue with FFSplit, the stream looks like it's working fine but when I start it the audio loops infinitely, having a stranger/higher pitched sound each time. Anyone know how to fix this issue? Much appreciated.
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For those around 600-1000 kbps upload:
-you cannot (you can but you shouldn't, it's dumb) stream higher than a 9xx*5xx resolution, most people have desktop resolution @ 1920*1080, they have to divide the stream resolution by 2: 960*540
-no more than 25fps, more fps = less quality, I recommend 20
-you need a quad-core @ > 3ghz so you can chose a slower preset like medium, slow or slower and upload a better quality(in this case less pixelisation) with the same bitrate. Chose the slowest preset possible that allows you to play comfortably, I have a Q6600 @ 3,6ghz and use slower in LoL, slow in SC2, but thats a bit extreme for sc2 sometimes, I have to say. Of course, if you're limited CPU wise, you'll need to free the CPU with the game settings. You can decrease the game resolution too, I use 1440 instead of 1680, therefore I divide the streaming resolution by 1,5.
-the "quality" setting is a bit obscure to me, just try something between 6 and 10, doesnt really matter
-for the audio chose AAC with 96 bitrate for example, sounds good enough to me
-if speedtest.net shows 0,8Mbs upload speed, the bitrate should be set around 730 ( if the bandwidth is only used by a VoIP program and game), the buffer a little more : I have 900 bitrate and 1500 for the buffer
Once you started streaming and your cpu usage is fine in game, two main problems might occure, looking at the VOD or told by someone whose watching ( dont watch your stream ) :
-the stream is freezing, frames are missing : your bitrate is too high, lower it
-the stream is too pixelated when there is too much motion : the quality(number of fps, stream resolution) is too high, lower it or chose a slower preset
Wasn't going to post on this thread but after reading all this nonsense I realised that a lot of people have no idea what they're doing and give each other advices, it's just painful.
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On November 06 2012 05:06 limdul wrote:
730 ( if the bandwidth is only used by a VoIP program and game), the buffer a little more
I don't get where everyone gets that nonsense about the buffer. The way it works, you can never stream more than max bitrate + buffer over the course of two seconds. That can mean that in one second you'll stay way under your max bitrate while in the next second, you'll go way over, resulting in dropped frames because your upstream bandwidth is too low.
If you want to make sure you're not dropping frames due to this, I advise using little to no buffer at all.
This only applies when your max bitrate is already close to your available upstream bandwidth, of course. If you're streaming at, say, 1000kbps and your upstream is 5000, you can obviously use the buffer without risking dropped frames. If you're streaming at or close to your available upstream bandwidth, don't buffer.
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I have 950kbps upload speed, I use bitrate 900 and buffer 1500, and have no problem. I dont know how exactly buffer works but 1:1 or 1,5:1 is not really important, the rest of my post tho, is. That part was just repeating what a competent person wrote on xsplit forums, that you can have twice more buffer, it will just add some delay.
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On November 04 2012 22:42 m4inbrain wrote:
Hey, i've got a question. First of all, i'm actually too stupid to set up a stream properly i guess, because i tried millions of different things, with little to no result.
First of all, i play at 1680x1050. I found out, i "should" stream at 1152x864, which would be equivalent to 720p (i have actually no clue if that is true)
1680x1050 is 16:10 ratio, 1152x864 is 4:3 (720p is 1280x720, 16: 9). I imagine the 16:10 equivalent of 720p would be 1152x720. Whatever you choose to use, you should have your stream output the same aspect ratio as your monitor.
Otherwise, your PC and upload bandwidth are more than enough to run a high quality stream. Sounds like you did a little too much with Dxtory. Go back to default settings and use the guides on these forums-- I personally used the Dxtory for XSplit guide and had no issues.
The creator of OBS is apparently working on fullscreen capture, so keep an eye on that.
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does anyone know how to enable the stream delay option for this program? mine's greyed out and it wont tell me why for no reason....
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Trying to stream but when I hit the start button. The program seems to hang at step:
Streaming.....
But I get no readout of anything. When I hit the stop button it finally says connection established, my stream goes live for a quick moment, and then goes right down (since I hit the stop button). Sometime later the program actually relinquishes control to me, it usually keeps it for a very long time.
EDIT: Looks like its something to do with DXtory.
My stream keeps kicking itself offline as well. No idea why. FFSplit keeps chugging away though. But twitch isnt getting the message.
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On November 25 2012 11:42 Medrea wrote:
Trying to stream but when I hit the start button. The program seems to hang at step:
Streaming.....
But I get no readout of anything. When I hit the stop button it finally says connection established, my stream goes live for a quick moment, and then goes right down (since I hit the stop button). Sometime later the program actually relinquishes control to me, it usually keeps it for a very long time.
EDIT: Looks like its something to do with DXtory.
My stream keeps kicking itself offline as well. No idea why. FFSplit keeps chugging away though. But twitch isnt getting the message.
Lower your bitrate. Thats the only reason FFsplit would cut itself out
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No need for me to do that. Im already running at 2800. If bitrate is the problem then its not my issue. I have 8mb up.
Its all at once as well. The vod shows the stream is just fine and smooth. And then instantly cut out. Meanwhile my client has no idea and is still churning out bits.
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On November 25 2012 13:53 Medrea wrote:
No need for me to do that. Im already running at 2800. If bitrate is the problem then its not my issue. I have 8mb up.
Its all at once as well. The vod shows the stream is just fine and smooth. And then instantly cut out. Meanwhile my client has no idea and is still churning out bits.
What resolution are you streaming at? Because I know for some people (that had higher upload speed than yours) could not stream past a certain bitrate, regardless of the resolution (with ffsplit of course).
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On November 25 2012 23:42 Medrea wrote:
800p
try 2k bitrate
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Edit: Wow, I'm retarded... Delete
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What should I do with these specs?
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450m cpu @ 2.5ghz
6gb ram
I'd like to try to stream at 1280x720
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On February 02 2013 00:44 whatdaheo94 wrote:
What should I do with these specs?
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450m cpu @ 2.5ghz
6gb ram
I'd like to try to stream at 1280x720
I'd recommend OBS at this time. I quit using FFsplit and went to OBS myself because I went to install went I got my new pc and it ran terribly. No idea why. Just serach the forums for the OBS guide.
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This has probably been answered before, but is there any way to just stream a specific game (sc2), which can be choosen in Xsplit? That is the only thing i am missing with FFsplit.
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