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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
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Nightrain
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
 It wasn't a 100% experience before, and i would have asked anytime soon anyway, but now it's a 0% experience.. So i know (my) LG operates somehow with linux, but i'm not sure which distribution nor how to handle the problems. Is there an app which makes the use of flash content a little bit more 'enjoyable'? Or can i tweak a little here and there? Before the update (twitch) does work ok'ish. Comparable long loading times and after a hand full of advertisements the flash plug-in stops working. Once tv restarted everything runs fine again. If the video is buffered, streams even run in 1080p. Advertisements looks like they are just overlays and the lg app/hardware is simply overwhelmed if they start. | ||
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nMinhBang
Netherlands98 Posts
I'm kind of torn because I'm running a 2-monitor setup right now, with my main screen being the RL2450HT (Phillips 220SW being the secondary). And I'm stuck between the choices either: - to complete my desk into a better, more fulfilled looking setup by having two monitors that are identical in appearance, - or by getting a monitor that supposedly has better colors, as I'd really really love to see better colors on my monitor. Basically my question is, is the U2312HM worth it to get for the better colors? Are the colors that much better looking? (I've only seen two IPS-es that I'm aware of in my life so far, and I absolutely loved the colors on the first one I saw, don't know which model it was though, the second one I saw recently didn't have any good preview images showing, so I don't know how I should think of that one.) | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
A decent TN produces about the same range of colors as a decent (on the cheaper side, not the pro-level ones) IPS, which is roughly in the standard sRGB range. The TNs also may have slightly higher contrast, but it really depends. On average, many models of IPS seem to have better out-of-box calibration, but if you calibrated a TN (though that requires a calibrator, and games generally don't play nice with ICC profiles) it would have similar accuracy to a calibrated IPS. So depending on how you define better, a TN could be similar or better in some respects, or worse. The place TNs get killed is the gamma shifting from top to bottom. If you want to look at pages like this of a solid color: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php and not have the thing look like a gradient... yeah. No matter how you calibrate it, you're not going to fix that on a TN, and it should be fairly apparent on realistic images as well (not to mention websites and so on). Because that definitely affects color reproduction, then you'd say an IPS does significantly better, but if that doesn't bother you on a TN, then there's not much improvement to be had. By the way, U2312HM is a model with relatively heavy antiglare coating, so you could say the light colors look sparkly and rainbowy and thus worse than some other monitors. That said, most TN have matte antiglare too, but it's usually not as strong. So how do you define better? Does that seem like better to you? By the way, a lot of smartphones have IPS panels. It's not the size of a computer monitor, but maybe you've seen some more than you thought? | ||
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nMinhBang
Netherlands98 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Gotuso
Netherlands733 Posts
1) It has some backlight bleeding: ![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/uqt2.jpg/) 2) It isn't centered. On the right and top side of the screen you can see 2 black bars that shouldn't be there. On the left side you can only see a tiny strip and pretty much nothing on the bottem. See: ![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/ia0r.jpg/) Is there a way to fix this centering issue? Because i'm using a DVI-D connection my auto adjust and horizontal/vertical positioning options are greyed out. I tried using the graphicscards options but that didn't do much and neither did resetting to factory settings. Do I have a bad screen? I'm thinking of returning it but I hesitant to go through the hassle. I like the colors, size and adjustability of the screen, but these 2 things prevent me from truely enjoying it. | ||
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Logan_ps
United Kingdom118 Posts
I have a Gigabyte gfx670 OC 2gb card, i3770k processor. I wish to stream and am bothered that getting a 2560x1440 monitor will mean more resources used to encode to my low net speed of 900kb up. I mainly game (all genre's), surf and watch twitch streams. I like the idea of a 27" screen so I can watch streams from my sofa (12 ft away from screen) but I also want to be able to get good game performance and wonder if a 1080 27" screen would be better for this. Alternatively, do I go for a decent 24" screen. I want IPS for the viewing angles. I've looked at mostly 27" so far - the Dell u2713HM, Viewsonic VP2770 and Asus PB278Q ; but all seem to have their issues and picking one makes my brain hurt. I considered the Dell 29" ultrawidescreen u2913wm ; not sure I would like the 21-9 aspect ratio. I've also looked at the u2412hm and the u2413. A 24" appeals to me simply from the fact that it wouldn't tax my gfx card and would probably look better than a 27" 1080 screen but it wouldn't be as good for sofa sc2 watching. I really can't decide though. The final factor - and possibly most problematic one - is that I feel I should see them all in a store to make my mind up; but i'm house bound...so I can't. Can anyone help? I know it's often personal taste, but I'm hoping there is one stand out option for me that you peeps who know what you are talking about can point to. My budget is not really an issue. Up to £700 is fine as I want this to be a long term purchase so quality is important. Thanks in advance. | ||
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MasterDrone
France50 Posts
On September 01 2013 00:07 Nightrain wrote: Just got an AOC i2369vm, really good ips monitor. A hell of a lot better than my old u2312hm (colors and surface), sad thing is dell is still sold here and the price is higher than the new aoc. Wow really? The first time I heard something like this. Did you calibrate both? | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
I wish to stream and am bothered that getting a 2560x1440 monitor will mean more resources used to encode to my low net speed of 900kb up Encoder doesn't care what your input is*, only output. You're not going to be running an output stream of 2560x1440 (so not much to worry about), even if you had upload and CPU to support it, only a small percent of viewers would be able to watch and it would look inferior to a 720 or 1080 stream to the rest of them *That's handled by the streaming program before anything to do with encoder/bitrate/etc happens | ||
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Logan_ps
United Kingdom118 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On September 10 2013 15:13 Gotuso wrote: I've just bought a Dell U2312hm and unfortunately there's 2 things wrong with it. 1) It has some backlight bleeding: 2) It isn't centered. On the right and top side of the screen you can see 2 black bars that shouldn't be there. On the left side you can only see a tiny strip and pretty much nothing on the bottem. See: Is there a way to fix this centering issue? Because i'm using a DVI-D connection my auto adjust and horizontal/vertical positioning options are greyed out. I tried using the graphicscards options but that didn't do much and neither did resetting to factory settings. Do I have a bad screen? I'm thinking of returning it but I hesitant to go through the hassle. I like the colors, size and adjustability of the screen, but these 2 things prevent me from truely enjoying it. Centring issue seems to be a production defect, its common in those cheapo 2560x1440 monitors found on eBay so could have occurred with your Dell. I guess you could try to push the panel across a bit, just don't push too hard, use anything sharp and keep the pressure spread out. If it isn't, your GPU drivers (NVIDIA GPUs can anyway) should let you push the position of the image around in wherever the scaling options are found. As for the backlight bleed, that's fairly common but it seems excessive. What brightness is it at and is it really noticeable? Either way, Dell is typically pretty good about these sort of warranty claims after you get past their initial call centre support staff. On September 19 2013 21:10 MasterDrone wrote: Wow really? The first time I heard something like this. Did you calibrate both? AH-IPS vs. old eIPS. Main difference is the screen coating where AH-IPS is significantly thinner. People like to moan about glossy screens making their WORK DEVICES like toys but anti-glare coatings can impact the image quality dramatically if they're excessively thick. If you place an Apple Macbook Pro with the matte upgrade next to one with the standard gloss display, they look completely different and most people would pick the glossy model 95% of the time. The OP is still kind of up to date (no major developments in monitors) but it does warn you about matte vs. gloss. Pick your poison but look before you buy. | ||
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ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
Also, if someone has an alternate recommendation in the 27+ inch range I'm all ears. These are a bit expensive for my taste, but they got great reviews and I'm likely to own them for 3-5 years. Edit: I can also wait awhile for these, I'm not in a rush. If there are newer models coming down the pipeline, I can hold off. | ||
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Logan_ps
United Kingdom118 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On September 22 2013 15:19 ObliviousNA wrote: I'm currently considering 2x U2713HM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260111) for a programming/gaming setup. Is 600 the best price I'm likely to find? (Note the newegg 10% off price). Also, if someone has an alternate recommendation in the 27+ inch range I'm all ears. These are a bit expensive for my taste, but they got great reviews and I'm likely to own them for 3-5 years. Edit: I can also wait awhile for these, I'm not in a rush. If there are newer models coming down the pipeline, I can hold off. It probably won't decrease in price by much. In Australia, where we basically get price parity with the USA, the lowest we get is around $550. The QNIX QX2710 is an alternative but only get the ones with a single input. Two of these will equal one Dell U2713HM. Its a bit risky due to warranty but I think SquareTrade might offer warranty and piece of mind if something catastrophic happens. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Do you have any suggestions? I prefer if they are rather similar looking due to symmetry annoyance, but I'm not too picky. (Just got my paycheque and the BF4 specs, so I'm afraid I'm back to annoy you guys D: ) | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If you plan to use vertically, don't get a TN. That's about it. Some kind of cheap AH-IPS (or other IPS or something else) model these days should work. Would it bother you if they're not the same resolution? I mean, 1200 pixels horizontal works better for plenty of webpages than 1080 does. Something like Asus VG248QE doesn't look that distinctive. Doesn't PA238Q or something look similar? That said, getting something else and a VESA stand mount might be cheaper. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
What's a TN? I would need the resolution to be the same to be honest because sometimes they will both be horizontal/vertical. I don't know, I've never had two monitors before. I'm sitll debating if I care if my montior has thick black plastic borders or something rofl. That's how petty I am | ||
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