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zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
December 07 2011 19:44 GMT
#21
This is going to help me a ton later when I have more time to compare my stream to this.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 20:01:46
December 08 2011 19:58 GMT
#22
On December 08 2011 04:31 Boblhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:47 Cyro wrote:

I can stream @1920x1080 30fps with 500 bitrate in xsplit, it just degrades really fast to a blurry mess when faced with moving 3d objects etc. It has no effect on you lagging out.

I know for a fact more than a couple of 1080p streams featured on TL use less than 3k bitrate, and it is very easy to tell the difference between like 1k and 2.5-3k with default xsplit preset, but that is not the issue here.


afaik..... h264 codec specifies that 3000-5000kb/s is 1080p. Destiny is really the only person streaming a true 1080p stream. Unless you see people streaming 4.5mb/s higher.



1080p is defined as having 1080 rows of vertical pixels and being progressive scan, not as a 5mbit encoded video. Xsplit doesnt even use h264 anyway, it uses variable bitrate with x264, which is a newer and quite different codec.


Guessing you read the other thread that had the (wrong) discussion about that?


If you give it a static screen or a webpage etc that hasnt been moved for a while, xsplit will produce a pixel perfect (or very very close to) 30fps stream of it with the right settings without going near 1000kbit up sustained, much better quality than say a starcraft 2 stream at 10k bitrate that is showing a moving scene.
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ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
December 08 2011 20:33 GMT
#23
you cant play on ultra + stream 1080p
you need to turn the quality to 5 or lower
2300 isnt that much bitrate, maybe go for 3000 or 3500
maybe try 20 fps too instead of 25
just keep lowering all the settings until it doesn't lag, then see how much higher you can go without lag
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 08 2011 21:30 GMT
#24
On December 09 2011 05:33 coL.drewbie wrote:
you cant play on ultra + stream 1080p
you need to turn the quality to 5 or lower
2300 isnt that much bitrate, maybe go for 3000 or 3500
maybe try 20 fps too instead of 25
just keep lowering all the settings until it doesn't lag, then see how much higher you can go without lag


I went over a lot of stuff with him, guess its not that obvious from front page of thread but we also talked in stream chat and in sc2, he is running pretty much as well as he can with a stock 2600k atm i think
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
December 08 2011 21:39 GMT
#25
There really is no point in streaming 1080 though unless you are able to do bitrates above 2500kbps which is not really doable unless you have a partnership with twitch.tv like Destiny. (You get automatic transcoding for people with less than 2500 kbps connections or whatever u set your bitrate at)

1500 should be maximum to ensure most viewers can watch without lag, that beeing said. With that kind of low bitrate people wont see any different between 720P and 1080P.
Also there seems to be some performance issues with xsplit and 1080P. FMLE actually runs 1080P better than Xsplit. (Destiny also using FMLE)
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 21:44:38
December 08 2011 21:43 GMT
#26
On December 09 2011 04:58 Cyro wrote:
1080p is defined as having 1080 rows of vertical pixels and being progressive scan, not as a 5mbit encoded video.

I completely agree and have mentioned this to Boblhead before. His definition of a certain bitrate on a variable stream with variable contents doesn't make sense.

On December 09 2011 04:58 Cyro wrote:
Xsplit doesnt even use h264 anyway,[...but x264], which is a newer and quite different codec.

That I do not agree on.
x264 is a free software library for encoding video streams into the H.264/MPEG-4 AVC format.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264

Free to do whatever I want!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 08 2011 22:04 GMT
#27
My bad then.

The thread ended like yesterday either way, but people are still posting after reading just the OP so i guess it will continue being bumped
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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