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Nihilite
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands61 Posts
November 11 2011 20:16 GMT
#21
On November 11 2011 18:26 Warrior Madness wrote:
-BIOS screen doesn't pop up when I connect my monitor. I get a "No Signal" message in fact.


Quite possibly irrelevant to the rest of your problems, but if your graphics card has 2 PCI connectors be sure to make sure all the slots are filled. When I first tried a test boot building my first computer I only had 1 PCI connector in my graphics card and my screen also simply said "no signal" (even though fans on the graphics card were spinning). You can probably imagine it was kind of a shock to me aswell. That aside, I hope you manage to fix whatever is wrong.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
November 12 2011 01:57 GMT
#22
On November 12 2011 05:16 Nihilite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 18:26 Warrior Madness wrote:
-BIOS screen doesn't pop up when I connect my monitor. I get a "No Signal" message in fact.


Quite possibly irrelevant to the rest of your problems, but if your graphics card has 2 PCI connectors be sure to make sure all the slots are filled. When I first tried a test boot building my first computer I only had 1 PCI connector in my graphics card and my screen also simply said "no signal" (even though fans on the graphics card were spinning). You can probably imagine it was kind of a shock to me aswell. That aside, I hope you manage to fix whatever is wrong.


Looked to see if there were other PCI connectors on my graphics card (gigabyte hd 6850) and there were none, only one 8 pin connection. It was also in the proper PCI Express slot as well and locked into place.

The error that my DEBUG LED makes btw is C1. That's supposedly a memory related error and it might even be a memory incompatibility error. But how would this be possible? My mother board model is GA-Z68x-U7-B3 socket 1155 and I'm using corsair vengeance blue memory, 1600 Mhz and 1.50V and my motherboard supposedly supports that. If it's simply incompatibility would the hard drive turn on and off like it does now? I've also tried cycling each memory stick I have 1 by 1 and in different memory slots but my mobo stays exactly the same.

So I took everything apart and put it back together again. Including cleaning the thermal past off the CPU and heat sink with "Arctic Clean" and liberally applying paste onto the CPU. Then I connected everything together and then all the power cables. I'm using all of the power cables except for something called p2, some 4 pin cable that I can't find any use for.

I've connected all the internal connectors outlined in the manual except for SPDIF_O, PCH_FAN and F_1394. If the restarts are caused by overheating maybe I missed some sort of fan plug. But I can't find any connector for PCH_FAN. None in the mobo box either. And I can't find uses for those other two. I don't think they're important enough plugs to cause the mobo to turn on and off like that but I don't know much.

Onboard LEDs are perptually these colours:

Memory (Memory Phase Indicator). MD1- Green (Normal Working conditions)
MD2-Yellow (Overvoltage or heavy loading)
CPU VTT: GD1 - Green
GD2 - Yellow

What do you make of this? I've asked other people and they think that it's actually a power supply problem.


The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
zVooky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 02:12:36
November 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#23
On November 12 2011 10:57 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 05:16 Nihilite wrote:
On November 11 2011 18:26 Warrior Madness wrote:
-BIOS screen doesn't pop up when I connect my monitor. I get a "No Signal" message in fact.


Quite possibly irrelevant to the rest of your problems, but if your graphics card has 2 PCI connectors be sure to make sure all the slots are filled. When I first tried a test boot building my first computer I only had 1 PCI connector in my graphics card and my screen also simply said "no signal" (even though fans on the graphics card were spinning). You can probably imagine it was kind of a shock to me aswell. That aside, I hope you manage to fix whatever is wrong.


Looked to see if there were other PCI connectors on my graphics card (gigabyte hd 6850) and there were none, only one 8 pin connection. It was also in the proper PCI Express slot as well and locked into place.

The error that my DEBUG LED makes btw is C1. That's supposedly a memory related error and it might even be a memory incompatibility error. But how would this be possible? My mother board model is GA-Z68x-U7-B3 socket 1155 and I'm using corsair vengeance blue memory, 1600 Mhz and 1.50V and my motherboard supposedly supports that. If it's simply incompatibility would the hard drive turn on and off like it does now? I've also tried cycling each memory stick I have 1 by 1 and in different memory slots but my mobo stays exactly the same.

So I took everything apart and put it back together again. Including cleaning the thermal past off the CPU and heat sink with "Arctic Clean" and liberally applying paste onto the CPU. Then I connected everything together and then all the power cables. I'm using all of the power cables except for something called p2, some 4 pin cable that I can't find any use for.

I've connected all the internal connectors outlined in the manual except for SPDIF_O, PCH_FAN and F_1394. If the restarts are caused by overheating maybe I missed some sort of fan plug. But I can't find any connector for PCH_FAN. None in the mobo box either. And I can't find uses for those other two. I don't think they're important enough plugs to cause the mobo to turn on and off like that but I don't know much.

Onboard LEDs are perptually these colours:

Memory (Memory Phase Indicator). MD1- Green (Normal Working conditions)
MD2-Yellow (Overvoltage or heavy loading)
CPU VTT: GD1 - Green
GD2 - Yellow

What do you make of this? I've asked other people and they think that it's actually a power supply problem.




Hey bub the post before the last one says he had the SAME problem and he didnt connect the 4 pin connector to the mobo because it was covered by plastic, after connecting it it worked fine.

Also make sure your heatsink is connected to the right spot, i hooked mine up to the sys_fan spot because it was the same and it gave me a problem for the longest (wouldnt boot), after i hooked it up in the right spot it worked like a charm.


EDIT: I dont think its the power supply because if it was that, it would mean your stuff is drawing to much power and by the looks of it 850w should be fine.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
November 12 2011 03:09 GMT
#24
On November 12 2011 01:25 multiversed wrote:
improperly applying thermal paste can cause the CPU to overheat before it is able to POST. this would mean your hardware is not damaged and only quickly overheating. you can attempt to remove all of the preapplied paste and generously apply thermal paste by hand.(a large amount but not enough to make a mess when pressure is applied.)

the problem you are describing can be a result of overheating. again, good luck.

Even if the paste was applied poorly, there's no way a cpu should be overheating to the point of shutting itself down before it even posts.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
November 12 2011 03:22 GMT
#25
On November 12 2011 11:11 zVooky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 10:57 Warrior Madness wrote:
On November 12 2011 05:16 Nihilite wrote:
On November 11 2011 18:26 Warrior Madness wrote:
-BIOS screen doesn't pop up when I connect my monitor. I get a "No Signal" message in fact.


Quite possibly irrelevant to the rest of your problems, but if your graphics card has 2 PCI connectors be sure to make sure all the slots are filled. When I first tried a test boot building my first computer I only had 1 PCI connector in my graphics card and my screen also simply said "no signal" (even though fans on the graphics card were spinning). You can probably imagine it was kind of a shock to me aswell. That aside, I hope you manage to fix whatever is wrong.


Looked to see if there were other PCI connectors on my graphics card (gigabyte hd 6850) and there were none, only one 8 pin connection. It was also in the proper PCI Express slot as well and locked into place.

The error that my DEBUG LED makes btw is C1. That's supposedly a memory related error and it might even be a memory incompatibility error. But how would this be possible? My mother board model is GA-Z68x-U7-B3 socket 1155 and I'm using corsair vengeance blue memory, 1600 Mhz and 1.50V and my motherboard supposedly supports that. If it's simply incompatibility would the hard drive turn on and off like it does now? I've also tried cycling each memory stick I have 1 by 1 and in different memory slots but my mobo stays exactly the same.

So I took everything apart and put it back together again. Including cleaning the thermal past off the CPU and heat sink with "Arctic Clean" and liberally applying paste onto the CPU. Then I connected everything together and then all the power cables. I'm using all of the power cables except for something called p2, some 4 pin cable that I can't find any use for.

I've connected all the internal connectors outlined in the manual except for SPDIF_O, PCH_FAN and F_1394. If the restarts are caused by overheating maybe I missed some sort of fan plug. But I can't find any connector for PCH_FAN. None in the mobo box either. And I can't find uses for those other two. I don't think they're important enough plugs to cause the mobo to turn on and off like that but I don't know much.

Onboard LEDs are perptually these colours:

Memory (Memory Phase Indicator). MD1- Green (Normal Working conditions)
MD2-Yellow (Overvoltage or heavy loading)
CPU VTT: GD1 - Green
GD2 - Yellow

What do you make of this? I've asked other people and they think that it's actually a power supply problem.




Hey bub the post before the last one says he had the SAME problem and he didnt connect the 4 pin connector to the mobo because it was covered by plastic, after connecting it it worked fine.

Also make sure your heatsink is connected to the right spot, i hooked mine up to the sys_fan spot because it was the same and it gave me a problem for the longest (wouldnt boot), after i hooked it up in the right spot it worked like a charm.


EDIT: I dont think its the power supply because if it was that, it would mean your stuff is drawing to much power and by the looks of it 850w should be fine.


Could it be that the antec 850 is incompatible with a GA-Z68x-U7-B3 motherboard? The second power connector is ATX_12V_2X (2x4 12V power connector).

These are the connectors that come with the power supply: 24 pin, 4-pin ATX, 8-pin EPS 12V, 2x8 pin EPS 12V, 3 x molex + 1x floppy, 3x SATA.

So I've been plugging it in with the 8-pin EPS because that's the only one that matches the number of pins for that part. But maybe I need to buy another 4-Pin ATX cable and attack it to the power supply. There are 4 more slots at the back of the power supply where you can attach additional cables. They're labelled: +12v1/HDD, +12V1/HDD, +12V3, +12V4. The last two are PCE slots I think, and the other two sound like HD slots.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Karmablah
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada48 Posts
November 12 2011 03:35 GMT
#26
Try re-seating your CPU and your RAM. Also try with only one stick of RAM at a time. If that doesn't work its probably a lemon board and you'll have to RMA.
eccokk
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany38 Posts
November 12 2011 03:38 GMT
#27
feel your pain bro sorry i cannot help but those kind of computer problems are the worst hope all works out for you!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 12 2011 03:38 GMT
#28
All high-end motherboards uses a 8pin EPS connector.

Power supplies either come with a 4pin ATX connector along with a 8pin EPS connector in which case only one of these would be used or a 4+4pin ATX/EPS connector.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 04:03:58
November 12 2011 03:41 GMT
#29
On November 12 2011 12:38 skyR wrote:
All high-end motherboards uses a 8pin EPS connector.

Power supplies either come with a 4pin ATX connector along with a 8pin EPS connector in which case only one of these would be used or a 4+4pin ATX/EPS connector.


Thanks... So I guess it is the MOBO after all (or the power supply, or the cpu).

Gahd, if you're gonna build a computer build local so you can return parts quickly.

I was gonna post this pic but I don't need to anymore, but I'll post it anyway:

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Also, here's an overview of my computer, just in case you're interested in what it looks like.

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The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
November 12 2011 04:26 GMT
#30
Cable management, very useful talent toi have. JK.
Good luck with that, I won't be able to help you.
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
November 12 2011 05:24 GMT
#31
This seems what happened to me on my first build. My fans would spin then everything would go off.
For me The 12 pins from PSU to MOBO were not all the way in, I had to push pretty hard. I rebuilt it twice making the same problem.

Once I pushed the 12 pins in all the way with some force it worked ever since.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
November 13 2011 00:56 GMT
#32
Okay this was a bit bizarre. Today I tried to get my motherboard and cpu exchanged but they tested it out and lo and behold they got to POST. So I thought okay then it's my power supply or my RAM. So I swapped my powersupply and I still got the same shit, on for a few seconds then off. But I figured it's GOT to be the C1 error then that appears on the onboard error display. When they booted it I saw a lot of different numbers flash. Whenever I boot all I see is C1. So... I swapped my corsairs for some kingston's... and I get the same error. What the Hell could it be? Graphics card? TWO faulty new memory kits in a row? I tried testing each individual stick as well again....
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
zVooky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 02:24:49
November 13 2011 02:20 GMT
#33
Im saying you are plugging something into the wrong spot and not realizing it OR its not all the way plugged in. Where do you have your heatsink fan plugged in?

Maybe if you take pics as you go step by step and post them we can MAYBE help you but its pretty messy.


On November 12 2011 13:26 SChlafmann wrote:
Cable management, very useful talent toi have. JK.
Good luck with that, I won't be able to help you.


Cant bust a guys balls to much for this for his first build, especially with the other problems he has.

Whats left of my 1st build
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and my 2nd build
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 04:11:56
November 13 2011 21:41 GMT
#34
My God.... Finally got it to work. It WAS the memory after all.... I finally got to BIOS after I replaced the memory kit three times. It's odd because technically all those memory cards were compatible with my motherboard. I DID get faulty memory the first two times which is highly unlikely but hey it happened.... Cause I ended up with a kingston memor kit once again.
Thanks everyone for helping.

I just have one more question... Where can I get an internal speaker from? It would've really helped clarify things if I had some beeps to guide me through the troubleshooting. My case didn't come with one and neither did my motherboard. I have a gigabyte z68x ud7 b3.

P.S. My cables were all messy because I just wanted to get to POST before uncluttering everything. It's clean now.

P.S.S.

It's up and running now... All it took was replacing the memory and updating the starcraft. Go figure.

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The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
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