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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20316 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 16:22:20
May 19 2014 16:20 GMT
#9281
A low power limited (U) Intel CPU using integrated graphics is a bad choice, but then again the AMD APU is probably not the greatest, either.

An i5-4200U without dedicated graphics is a dual core Haswell CPU @1.6ghz base clock. It has a very low base clock (think half of normal clock speeds) for the integrated graphics, and it has a 15w power budget for the entire CPU package - basically everything dedicated to the CPU - AS WELL AS - the integrated graphics. That's very low. Both the CPU cores and the integrated graphics will throttle themselves to stay in this 15w power window between them, which essentially guarantees that if you can maintain the low base clocks while gaming (less than half as fast as a desktop i3) then you won't be getting any turbo speeds.

For example, a midrange graphics card right now would use about 10x that much power for itself alone, and an intel desktop quad core CPU at stock would need about 50-60w.

Any laptop at $500, seeing those kind of specs, looks to be awful - you just have to make sure that it's awful in ways that you are fine with
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 16:45:21
May 19 2014 16:44 GMT
#9282
I guess under $500 counts as same price range, so with a Core i3-4000M instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313723

Or here, cheaper (slightly different specs):
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g510/

edit: i3-4000MQ listed is a typo by somebody on their site. it's i3-4000M

Yes, a standard power mobile i3 is faster than the low power i5 for gaming. The regular i5-4200M model upgrade is arguably worth the cost if you keep graphics settings on low and want higher minimum fps and evenness throughout.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20316 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 17:09:42
May 19 2014 17:02 GMT
#9283
Well, that i3 has an 800mhz higher base clock, better igpu (hd4600 vs 4400) and it has 37 watts!! to work with instead of 15. If you're planning on using the iGPU, i think the i5-u would get smoked. i3 doesn't have turbo, but the only situation where the i5 would turbo higher than the base clock of the i3 is when only one core is in use (not even starcraft would allow for that) and you have less than 15w combined between GPU and graphics
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
May 19 2014 21:47 GMT
#9284
Random question - why does watching a stream (via flash) (with or without hardware acceleration turned on) give me a higher temp than doing anything else (to include playing most games) except perhaps benchmarking tools?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20316 Posts
May 19 2014 23:08 GMT
#9285
Most of those games and such probably just don't load your CPU. Check CPU load vs temps, also grab something for 100% CPU load like prime95 version 28.5 small fft and it's probably way hotter
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32078 Posts
May 20 2014 04:37 GMT
#9286
Thank you very, very much, guys.

Yeah I know at my price range I am not getting very much. I just want something that I can do light gaming for the stuff I mentioned, using low graphic settings, and what I need to do for work/bsing without having my comp drag. Based on what you guys said, that i3 Lenovo sounds like the best I will be getting.
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 20 2014 20:22 GMT
#9287
I recently got the CM storm recon mouse. I love it so far but have been experiencing tracking issues (random skipping). I've tried tinkering around with the LoD, polling rate, and dpi to no avail. My mousepad is the teamliquid razor one which I've used with other mice and have had no issues. I've read somewhere that getting the 1.12 firmware may fix the issue but have no idea where to download it. Any suggestions?
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
May 20 2014 20:39 GMT
#9288
i have a problem with the left sidebar settings. i dont know hot to activate sc2 streams on the right side. i can check the "Right Sidebar Stream Sections: and Stacrcraft 2" show option, but the word starcraft 2 is crossed out. i dont find a solution in the site settings or on the sidebar settings left as well. there are also many options crossed out. how can i fix it? -.-
*probably a stupid question* -.-
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 21:54:37
May 20 2014 21:52 GMT
#9289
You have to toggle that content on/off. It used to be left of the search bar, but now it's hidden somewhere else. (It's a really unintuitive design.

Ah, I found it.

For some reason that's now hidden by default (??? -- I tried in a different browser that's logged out and never been used on TL), so go to settings in the top left and uncheck the box "Hide filter buttons in top menu bar." THEN you can toggle sections on/off next to the search bar.
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TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
May 21 2014 18:17 GMT
#9290
Hello, quick question: I put together a new comp for my parents, the MOBO doesn't have an IDE port and I want to install their old HDD as an external type drive. I've been looking up IDE to SATA connections, PCI-E cards, and IDE to USB external enclosure type solutions. Does anyone have any experience here and know what would be the "best" option with regard to ease, read/write speeds, mounting practicality, etc?

Thanks!
Maru | DeMusliM | TLO
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 21 2014 18:32 GMT
#9291
On May 22 2014 03:17 TheFlock wrote:
Hello, quick question: I put together a new comp for my parents, the MOBO doesn't have an IDE port and I want to install their old HDD as an external type drive. I've been looking up IDE to SATA connections, PCI-E cards, and IDE to USB external enclosure type solutions. Does anyone have any experience here and know what would be the "best" option with regard to ease, read/write speeds, mounting practicality, etc?

Thanks!

Are you sure you really want to use that HDD? If it's IDE, it's probably small and slow. The cheapest internal HDDs you can get are about $20 for 80GB or 120GB or so. The cheapest external HDDs are perhaps $30.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 18:51:55
May 21 2014 18:50 GMT
#9292
On May 22 2014 03:32 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 03:17 TheFlock wrote:
Hello, quick question: I put together a new comp for my parents, the MOBO doesn't have an IDE port and I want to install their old HDD as an external type drive. I've been looking up IDE to SATA connections, PCI-E cards, and IDE to USB external enclosure type solutions. Does anyone have any experience here and know what would be the "best" option with regard to ease, read/write speeds, mounting practicality, etc?

Thanks!

Are you sure you really want to use that HDD? If it's IDE, it's probably small and slow. The cheapest internal HDDs you can get are about $20 for 80GB or 120GB or so. The cheapest external HDDs are perhaps $30.


I built the computer around a whole new setup with a new HDD, I was just wanting to include this old HDD as a secondary one because it contains 15 years of their old files (lol) and I didn't want to bother wasting time transferring them. It would strictly be a storage for old files that I would rather not have filling up the new HDD.

The enclosure seems like a good way to go, but I was hoping there would be a cheap option and also I like the idea of installing the drive in the case, so that it is one less thing to clutter up the desk
Maru | DeMusliM | TLO
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
May 21 2014 21:07 GMT
#9293
All my old IDEs I just put in external enclosures. USB2 ought to be sufficient for an old IDE... I don't think the performance would be much different than being internal with some kind of IDE->SATA converter.
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TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
May 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#9294
Ah okay, I guess it doesn't make too big of a difference either way. Thanks for your help!
Maru | DeMusliM | TLO
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
May 22 2014 04:10 GMT
#9295
Does using two HDDs, one old with an OS and one new with an OS slow down certain functions? Because renaming folders has taken from 30 to 60 seconds ever since I slapped my old HDD in. I know you're supposed to format it but I needed to transfer files over before doing so.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
May 23 2014 15:53 GMT
#9296
Hello everyone,
I have recently started downloading old Brood War VODs from the internet, but the only way it is possible is through "right click -> save video as". Can it be that the way it is saved on my disc impacts the downloading speed? I have around 30 Mb/s internet and those videos about 60-100 MB yet they take suspiciously long to download. Thanks in advance!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
May 23 2014 16:17 GMT
#9297
Shouldn't really make much of a difference. The limiting factor is usually the filehost. Most of them choke downloads pretty low.

You can use JDownloader or a similar manager to bypass the browser, but I wouldn't expect much difference. JDownloader specifically you'd probably find quite useful as you can just ctrl+a, ctrl+c the contents of the page (or page source) and it'll parse the clipboard into links -- meaning you can batch grab and queue vods off a page.
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McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
May 23 2014 16:56 GMT
#9298
Thanks for the quick response!
I'm familiar with JDownloader, will try it again even of only for addidtional features, especialy since you can access page surces with it (that's what I use for d/ling)
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 18:56:14
May 23 2014 18:55 GMT
#9299
Hi everyone,
I bought a widescreen (21 : 9) 29" LG Monitor and it works great with hdmi in its 2560 x 1080 resolution,
but with DVI cable (which I really want to use because my laptop dock only has dvi and VGA out) the best it can do is a very ugly 1680x 1050 resolution.
Is there any way to get 2560 x 1080 with a DVI cable?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 23 2014 19:00 GMT
#9300
2560 x 1080 requires dual link DVI, chances are your laptop only has single link DVI so you cannot do 2560 x 1080 via DVI.
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