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On April 06 2014 06:20 Spaylz wrote:
They are roughly identical, if not slightly worse. Though I used Arctic Silver 5, which is supposedly much better than the default paste used by the manufacturer. I do feel like I should have gained temperature, instead of it staying largely the same, if not a few degrees higher.
The temperature definitely doesn't rise super high, I've posted in this thread before about my CPU temp. But still...
I suspect that I put on too much, and I was wondering if that could actually hinder performance.
Only if you're thermal throttling
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AS5 needs a curing period of up to a week of use so if you haven't let it cure yet, it's not too uncommon to not see gains.
Plus AS5 is really old... maybe your manufacturer actually used a somewhat decent compound.
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Unless your temperature is rising high enough to throttle, then no.
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Is there anything at all that can be done to reduce the lag playing on KR from EU?
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At most a VPN, but it's hit or miss.
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Im considiering to buy the G9x as I need a new mouse but I googled a bit and read that theres issues in using the G9x on a Goliathus (wich is the pad I want to buy as well). Anybody uses this combination and can disprove this?
Also what do you recommend: Goliathus Speed or Control?
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Are there meaningful differences between sli / crossfire bridges (beyond size / slots)?. As in, are ones from a few years ago any different than modern ones?
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I need to run 9 fans on a z87x-ud3h. Running six of them at full speed 24/7 would be acceptable (three ty-147's @1300rpm max and three af-140's) but i would like some kind of speed control on the other three, as i want to get extremely (overkill) powerfull front intakes, probably 3x 120mm running into the mid 2k RPM range while at 12v/100% - but that will probably make a ton of noise, so some kind of control is pretty necessary for those - if i could slow down the other 6 fans too for sleeping, it would be nice
I have a basic understanding of fans, PWM control and voltage control, but nothing more - first thing that comes to mind is a simple 7v/12v switch on the three front intakes, if not, these ( http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120mm-silverstone-fm121-(white)-dual-ball-bearing-case-fan-plus-2400rpm-pro-use-hi-end ) fans have a potentiometer? for scaling voltage and rpm from 800-2400 with them? - Not super sure on this stuff, need other opinions
How do?
Thanks :D <3
I'm looking to run beautiful air 540 black/white aesthetic wind-tunnel setup~
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YtQnnJ3l.jpg)
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On April 09 2014 11:30 Cyro wrote:
I need to run 9 fans on a z87x-ud3h. Running six of them at full speed 24/7 would be acceptable (three ty-147's @1300rpm max and three af-140's) but i would like some kind of speed control on the other three, as i want to get extremely (overkill) powerfull front intakes, probably 3x 120mm running into the mid 2k RPM range while at 12v/100% - but that will probably make a ton of noise, so some kind of control is pretty necessary for those - if i could slow down the other 6 fans too for sleeping, it would be nice
I have a basic understanding of fans, PWM control and voltage control, but nothing more:
How do?
Thanks :D <3
Dear god, why?
But I think your best bet would be a fan controller, like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992004 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992005
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Dear god, why?
I totally need to cool my 770 at stock voltage bro
Nah i just don't like half-assing cooling. My current case heated up quite a bit, needed to buy a second case so i had one for another build anyway, i'm grabbing a Maxwell GPU, etc. Would look and perform great, why not? ^.^
Those are drive-bay fan controllers, i don't think i have any drive bays. Any example products from UK sites?
www.overclockers.co.uk
www.amazon.co.uk
www.scan.co.uk
I think an ideal setup would actually be 3x3, since i'l have three fans on silver arrow, three af140's and three of another fan, but the super important thing is controlling the third set of 3 if i get loud/powerful fans there. I can probably PWM the CPU fans off the mobo, run the af140's 12v 24/7 if needed, but something like fm121's or sp120's running @2400rpm 24/7 wouldn't be nice. Other stuff, if it's cheap and easy, is just a bonus.
Any suggestions for fans also would be taken into consideration if anyone has deeper knowledge there~
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I don't know of any fan controllers that wouldn't need a bay, sadly - and I can't find any. It sounds like you'd want a 3-fan controller, possibly with a 1-to-3 splitter for the power cable. At least, electrically speaking, that would be easiest.
Of course, if you don't want half-assed cooling, you should go full mineral oil immersion case and be done with it.
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Do you need it automatically controlled or not?
Do any of the ports on the motherboard do voltage control? Do any of them do PWM control other than the CPU fan header?
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There was some rule of thumb about what fan headers on motherboards can usually provide for current. Maybe you can find that number for Gigabyte? You would search for "A", "amps", "ampere" provided by a fan header. The number you will find is what it can do at 12V. You would afterwards see what amount of Ampere the fans you want to use pull at 12V so that you know about the worst case, fans at full speed. If you want to run several fans on a fan header, you are just adding the Ampere for each fan together. It has to be below what the fan header can provide. You need to be diligent with your research because going over what the fan header can provide does not simply mean that fans can't run at full speed or something like that... it will mean that something on the board can burn up because there's too much current going through it!
That's how you decide if you can get away with using Y-cables and the board instead of paying for a fan controller. The software called SpeedFan is annoying to set up but will be able to do everything you want. You will be able to for example tie both GPU temperature and CPU temperature to the speed of the intake fans, making it so fans speed up when either of those need more air.
Another fan controller alternative that's very interesting is using PWM fans and the PWM signal from a motherboard fan header or GPU fan header. There are PWM splitters where you can plug a bunch of fans into. Power will come from the PSU. The board's fan header will only provide the PWM signal, so there's no limit on the number of fans you can use. There's adapter cables for the tiny GPU fan headers.
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On April 09 2014 11:55 Myrmidon wrote:
Do you need it automatically controlled or not?
Do any of the ports on the motherboard do voltage control? Do any of them do PWM control other than the CPU fan header?
1 x CPU fan header
1 x water cooling fan header (CPU_OPT)
4 x system fan headers
I'm not really sure. I think that the CPU_OPT can be pwm controlled, but not very knowledgeable on what the board can do
Auto control not necessary
edit: Ty for info, will read some more. It just hit me like an hour ago that i probably need to plug in/control fans somehow, so i needed to start from scratch. A little handholding is good here 
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Okay, then simple solution would be to use a Zalman Fan Mate 2:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zalman-Fan-Speed-Controller-FANMATE-2/dp/B000292DO0/
which could be used with a splitter (or just get multiple ones). Note 6W max there and 11V max. You could route the module outside of a case I guess. Stick it to the case maybe.
They aren't very good acoustically, but relatively cheap and okay fans are say Corsair SP120 Performance Edition (to 2350 rpm @ 12V). At 11V technically the power draw for 3 would be around 6W, if all the specs are to be believed.
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In the board manual, search for the page with the tables describing the fan headers. The tables will have four rows for the four pins of the fan headers. Look out for the row that mentions "Speed Control". That's how you find out what fan header can do voltage control and what fan header can do PWM and what fan header can do simply nothing except provide 12V.
The second row in the table is the pin with 12V power. If it says "Speed Control" there, the board will do voltage control on that header. The fourth row is the pin with the PWM signal. If that says "Speed Control", it's a header for PWM control.
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If i plug my headphones into the front audio connector vs the audio jack in the back, is there a difference in terms of audio quality? Or are both using the motherboard's onboard sound card.
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On April 12 2014 04:50 da_head wrote:
If i plug my headphones into the front audio connector vs the audio jack in the back, is there a difference in terms of audio quality? Or are both using the motherboard's onboard sound card.
If my board's anything to go by, it doesn't matter what jack you plug them into; the soundcard can route audio in or out of any port the same way. (Example, every time I plug something into a port it asks me what it is. It doesn't matter what port it is.)
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On April 12 2014 04:50 da_head wrote:
If i plug my headphones into the front audio connector vs the audio jack in the back, is there a difference in terms of audio quality? Or are both using the motherboard's onboard sound card.
There can be. Front jacks are prone to having higher amounts of "noise" on the line.
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I've got an old 1985 boombox with Left & Right 3.5mm AUX ports. What kind of aux cable would I need to hook up an mp3 player/phone/etc?
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