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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 28 2013 15:12 GMT
#7761
http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB238Q/#specifications

I bought two new monitors today.
Is 6 MS huge or will I not even notice?

Are these good monitors?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Korhal SayGen
Profile Joined September 2013
United States14 Posts
September 28 2013 18:03 GMT
#7762
On September 28 2013 15:46 skyR wrote:
If you don't know what dynamic is than you shouldn't be using it since it's worthless for home use. Dynamic basically allows you to add more space.


When I opened my computer my HDs minus the 3TB was in dynamic. SO I assumed that was standard- when I called about why the 3 TB wasn't in dynamic they said windows 7 64b is limited to 2tb dynamic drives.

"The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million---a statistic"
Korhal SayGen
Profile Joined September 2013
United States14 Posts
September 28 2013 18:04 GMT
#7763
On September 29 2013 00:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB238Q/#specifications

I bought two new monitors today.
Is 6 MS huge or will I not even notice?

Are these good monitors?



I went with Asus VG248QE
They are 1msGTG monitors 144MHz
I don't believe there is a better monitor on the market within that price range, the next one up as of 2 months ago was an additional 200$
"The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million---a statistic"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 28 2013 18:09 GMT
#7764
Response time along with most monitor specs are meaningless.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 28 2013 18:17 GMT
#7765
On September 29 2013 03:03 Korhal SayGen wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On September 28 2013 15:46 skyR wrote:
If you don't know what dynamic is than you shouldn't be using it since it's worthless for home use. Dynamic basically allows you to add more space.


When I opened my computer my HDs minus the 3TB was in dynamic. SO I assumed that was standard- when I called about why the 3 TB wasn't in dynamic they said windows 7 64b is limited to 2tb dynamic drives.


The default is basic. There is no limitation on size for dynamic disks afaik.
Korhal SayGen
Profile Joined September 2013
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 18:24:28
September 28 2013 18:23 GMT
#7766
On September 29 2013 03:09 skyR wrote:
Response time along with most monitor specs are meaningless.


How can you say that?

the MS on a monitor is an additional lag to whatever your displaying?

IE: In StarCraft a 5ms monitor vs a 1ms monitor would give the lower MS monitor owner a 4ms advantage--unless my logic is flawed from a factor I haven't considered.
"The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million---a statistic"
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
September 28 2013 18:30 GMT
#7767
On September 29 2013 03:23 Korhal SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 03:09 skyR wrote:
Response time along with most monitor specs are meaningless.


How can you say that?

the MS on a monitor is an additional lag to whatever your displaying?

IE: In StarCraft a 5ms monitor vs a 1ms monitor would give the lower MS monitor owner a 4ms advantage--unless my logic is flawed from a factor I haven't considered.

He means it like this:

The specs the manufacturer mentions are worthless.

The actual latency you will see in practice needs to be measured with some sort of external device. This measurement shows what's real.

You can't compare two monitors with the specs they have on paper. You will have to look up reviews that determine the real latency.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 18:41:01
September 28 2013 18:39 GMT
#7768
The response time measures how quickly the pixel can change from x to y. There are about a billion ways to measure things and there is no universal standard to measure response time or contrast ratio. Most manufacturers just take the lowest or highest number for marketing purposes. Starcraft II isn't a fast pace game so a 1ms monitor wouldn't have an advantage over a 4ms monitor.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 28 2013 18:41 GMT
#7769
On September 29 2013 03:09 skyR wrote:
Response time along with most monitor specs are meaningless.


I figured this, or I figured that anything below 3MS wouldn't be noticeable to the human eye.
either way, I like this response (:
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Korhal SayGen
Profile Joined September 2013
United States14 Posts
September 28 2013 18:42 GMT
#7770
On September 29 2013 03:30 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 03:23 Korhal SayGen wrote:
On September 29 2013 03:09 skyR wrote:
Response time along with most monitor specs are meaningless.


How can you say that?

the MS on a monitor is an additional lag to whatever your displaying?

IE: In StarCraft a 5ms monitor vs a 1ms monitor would give the lower MS monitor owner a 4ms advantage--unless my logic is flawed from a factor I haven't considered.

He means it like this:

The specs the manufacturer mentions are worthless.

The actual latency you will see in practice needs to be measured with some sort of external device. This measurement shows what's real.

You can't compare two monitors with the specs they have on paper. You will have to look up reviews that determine the real latency.


While what is on paper is usually misleading- the reviews I read form amazon say the 1ms claim is legit.
I'm not sure about the above posters monitor.
"The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million---a statistic"
Korhal SayGen
Profile Joined September 2013
United States14 Posts
September 28 2013 18:44 GMT
#7771
On September 29 2013 03:41 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 03:09 skyR wrote:
Response time along with most monitor specs are meaningless.


I figured this, or I figured that anything below 3MS wouldn't be noticeable to the human eye.
either way, I like this response (:


We do love to be told what we want to hear.

That being said there is nothing wrong with the specs of what you posted, I was merely suggesting a more optimal one if your interested while your return may still be valid.

Enjoy your new monitor
"The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million---a statistic"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 28 2013 18:49 GMT
#7772
Why would you read Amazon reviews to gauge performance? If I said my Pentium 4 is faster than an Core i7, you'd believe me? -_-
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 19:07:43
September 28 2013 19:07 GMT
#7773
On September 29 2013 03:44 Korhal SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 03:41 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 29 2013 03:09 skyR wrote:
Response time along with most monitor specs are meaningless.


I figured this, or I figured that anything below 3MS wouldn't be noticeable to the human eye.
either way, I like this response (:


We do love to be told what we want to hear.

That being said there is nothing wrong with the specs of what you posted, I was merely suggesting a more optimal one if your interested while your return may still be valid.

Enjoy your new monitor


http://www.mindfactory.de/#ajax_search_query=Asus VG248QE

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/23Zoll--58-42cm--Asus-PB-Serie-PB238Q-schwarz-1920x1080-1xHDMI-1-3-1xVGA-_808073.html

It's 100 euros more for better MS and MHz (I know that matters, but I've never experienced it; so I figured I'd save on costs)
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
September 29 2013 18:17 GMT
#7774
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 27 ragnasaur wrote:
I'm looking to buy a laptop for under $1000 USD
I will be taking it with me everywhere & it needs to be able to handle Adobe Creative Cloud programs
Don't care about playing games on it (as long as it can handle BW).
Reliability is probably my number one concern. (edit->) Portability second.
What laptops should I check out?


On September 27 Myrmidon wrote:
Yeah, I guess the question is what you're doing in those Adobe programs (and which?). I assumed it was something relatively intensive or else it's not worth bringing up, though that could be a bad assumption.

And I should have specified quad core i7. That's my bad.


Specifically at the moment it would be Photoshop & Illustrator & Dreamweaver all simultaneously. Also animation software separately.
Those business class laptops are petty awesome, although kindof clunky looking and heavy (ones i saw) except the zenbook.
I'll probably wait for black friday cyber monday waaaat
| (• ◡•)| (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) George Forman doesnt have any fingerprints
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 29 2013 19:13 GMT
#7775
Zenbook and the lighter stuff use low-power dual cores that might not be as suitable for running all those things. Depends on the usage though. Also, the Ultrabooks tend to have SSDs, and you're not going to find something with sufficient storage space (with an SSD) for all those huge Adobe suit programs plus scratch space for projects, the OS, etc. under $1000.

If building around performance and portability (unfortunately reliability is less certain), something Clevo W740SU-based seems possibly suitable.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7182/90-minutes-with-the-clevo-w740su-featuring-iris-pro-hd-5200
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Schenker-S413-Clevo-W740SU-Notebook.98313.0.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np2740-clevo-w740su-p-6201.html


Though really, going with a quad core may be overbuilding on specs if you're not constantly using heavy operations. I mean, how fast do things run now, and what hardware are you running those things on right now?
d_runk
Profile Joined March 2013
124 Posts
September 30 2013 13:04 GMT
#7776
I shipped my PC from EU to UK and I bought a 15A powe (kettle) cord here to plug in my corsair builder series 430cx. First it worked fine but now I get short BIOS beeps (meaning power error on the gigabyte ep43 ds3-l). Should I buy a low amper kettle cord or have I just ruined my PSU already ?
"You just offended like 90% of the world -I'm fine with that. 90% of people are pretty stupid" Jinro
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 30 2013 14:13 GMT
#7777
Any power cord like this is just a few strands of wiring. The power rating is something you're not supposed to exceed or else the voltage drop across the cord is excessive and it heats up too much. The thicker the cable and the more it is rated for, the less it heats up. It has practically no effect on how much power is drawn by the computer.

No, changing the cable changes nothing.

It's probably that some connections got knocked loose during shipping. Plug everything back in. Or some physical shock from shipping knocked some faulty electronics loose such that the power supply or motherboard is now defective and won't run. You could try a different power supply.
d_runk
Profile Joined March 2013
124 Posts
September 30 2013 21:38 GMT
#7778
I removed the psu and board from the case, put it back together and now it seems to run fine (I've been running it for a good 3-4 hours now, installed updates, watched some video and listened to some music but mainly just let it run by itself). Thanks a lot, I was getting panicky because I really wouldn't have the budget for a decent rig right now.
I have buddies who used to work at airport parcel services so I prepared my machine accordingly ^^
"You just offended like 90% of the world -I'm fine with that. 90% of people are pretty stupid" Jinro
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
October 01 2013 19:22 GMT
#7779
Does anyone knows if i can get a cheap laptop with a 'rainbow' keyboard? I've already searched for a bit and the cheapest one i found was this one: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42868 but it's already out of stock and specs are way higher than what i need.. but they only seem to offer that thing on high end laptops? If it's really the cheapest one on the market, can we usually get really good rebate on black friday or boxing day for laptops like this or it's probably going to be around the same price?

sorry if its the wrong thread to ask this kind of thing ;o
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#7780
What's the best way to have a vertical and horizontal monitor setup? I know its preference in the end; but I'm trying to figure out how to enjoy games without going off the screen when edge-panning (like in Dota 2), but also maintain a comfortable flow of dual-monitors (one that is vertical and the other is horizontal).

Not sure if I'm being clear here :x
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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