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-xpeh-
Profile Joined July 2009
Ukraine86 Posts
August 19 2013 20:52 GMT
#7481
skyR, thanks!
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 19 2013 21:49 GMT
#7482
My PC has been experiencing terrible sound issues recently. They occur very frequently, and when it happens, the sound starts to crackle and the whole system stutters incredibly for 5-30 seconds before recovering.

I have used DPC latency checker and 70 % of the time I have sound delay that goes off the charts of the program (36000 microseconds I think was the number) - I have tried disabling and enabling everything in the device manager to no avail. In lack of better ideas I checked CoreTemp and found out my cores run @ 85-90 c. Could this be the reason? I cannot narrow it down to any specific software changes and system recovery did nothing.

Problem occurs when doing anything really. Not just system demanding processes.

Taking any ideas on what to do, thanks.
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OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
August 19 2013 22:48 GMT
#7483
Hm... sounds concerning, but this can be affected by something else. Did you check how your processes behave? Download Process Explorer and keep an eye on which process/program is taking way too much of CPU during one of these stutter events. Also checking system log could help.
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z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 23:00:31
August 19 2013 22:57 GMT
#7484
Is that 85-90C with heavy load or is the CPU idle? I mean, either way that's way too hot, but if you're at 90C idle then you really need to stop using your computer immediately and check your CPU heatsink and make sure everything is in order (make sure you have adequate thermal paste on CPU, make sure heatsink is properly secured to CPU, make sure the fans are working, clean out any dust, etc).

Oh, and if you overclocked your CPU at all, go back to stock settings.
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WuzzupPeeps
Profile Joined October 2009
130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 23:07:27
August 19 2013 23:04 GMT
#7485
Today when I came home to turn on my laptop it started making clicking noises followed by some message "no bootable device detected". Apparently this is because my hard disk drive died but after turning off and restarting my computer twice with the same result, my internal HDD magically reappeared in the boot options and it was able to start up properly. I'm going to back up the important stuff on my computer now just in case but I'm quite worried... what should I do if this comes up again and it doesn't fix itself? Should I look into replacing some hardware or will this problem just go away? I can provide my computer specs if needed, but I'm almost illiterate when it comes to tech :S

Thanks in advance!
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
August 19 2013 23:13 GMT
#7486
On August 20 2013 08:04 WuzzupPeeps wrote:
Today when I came home to turn on my laptop it started making clicking noises followed by some message "no bootable device detected". Apparently this is because my hard disk drive died but after turning off and restarting my computer twice with the same result, my internal HDD magically reappeared in the boot options and it was able to start up properly. I'm going to back up the important stuff on my computer now just in case but I'm quite worried... what should I do if this comes up again and it doesn't fix itself? Should I look into replacing some hardware or will this problem just go away? I can provide my computer specs if needed, but I'm almost illiterate when it comes to tech :S

Thanks in advance!


Back-up everything important. When that is done, you can try to download HD Sentinel and check with it how the HDD health is looking - probably a bit grim. But with that you will know more about the issue.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
August 19 2013 23:32 GMT
#7487
Clicking sounds from your hard drive are usually bad news. As mentioned, backup anything important and run a HDD diagnostic tool and see if any errors pop up. Some of them are correctable, some aren't.

Even if you discover some uncorrectable errors on the drive, it's almost impossible to say how much time it has left. I have a clicking hard drive that has actually survived over a year now with a high "Current Pending Sector Count." I just don't keep any important data on it because it can go at any moment. You should treat hard drive problems as worst case scenario and do whatever you can to limit your potential losses.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 00:11:30
August 20 2013 00:11 GMT
#7488
Generally you can swap out HDDs in laptops pretty easily, so if you can get things backed up or make an image (clone) or the drive, you can get a replacement operational without too much trouble.
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WuzzupPeeps
Profile Joined October 2009
130 Posts
August 20 2013 01:48 GMT
#7489
Thanks for the help. The HD sentinel I downloaded reports that my hard drive is perfect o.o I don't have much important stuff on here it's mostly just downloadable video games and old college assignments but I've made backup anyway. Thanks again!
Kovaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada233 Posts
August 20 2013 02:45 GMT
#7490
So I've been getting some ridiculous ping spikes (like 3000+ ms) recently in-game and I've determined that the problem is my connection to my router. I connect wirelessly and have absolutely no way to go wired, so obviously that's where the problem lies. Is this just something that you have to deal with with a wireless connection or is there anything I can do to prevent this?
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 20 2013 05:52 GMT
#7491
How much of a performance difference is there in a i5 laptop vs a quad core i7 laptop?

I am planning on getting a laptop and originally I wanted an i7 haswell, but it is a bit more than I want to spend at the moment. Mostly it is going to be used for school work (programming will probably be the most heavily used aspect) but I wouldnt mind being able to play some SC2/D3. Would this handle casual play?
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Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
August 20 2013 09:02 GMT
#7492
What matters for games is the graphics card, seeing as that laptop doesn't have one it's about the worst you can get. it can play sc2 well on low (not med), and d3 should run on lowest as well, but other recent titles will run like shit, as sc2 and D3 aren't very gpu intensive at all.

For most games there won't be any noticeable difference between an i5 and an i7 quad, and the ones that do have extremely demanding GPU needs anyway.
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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 09:21:52
August 20 2013 09:18 GMT
#7493
On August 20 2013 18:02 Rollin wrote:
What matters for games is the graphics card, seeing as that laptop doesn't have one it's about the worst you can get. it can play sc2 well on low (not med), and d3 should run on lowest as well, but other recent titles will run like shit, as sc2 and D3 aren't very gpu intensive at all.

For most games there won't be any noticeable difference between an i5 and an i7 quad, and the ones that do have extremely demanding GPU needs anyway.

I know that games rely on GPU's (I am not an idiot), but I also know that 768 low settings is not graphically demanding. I have a desktop for real games, SC2/D3 are just quick games that I could maybe play sometimes on the road which is why I asked about those 2 in particular.

Also, I havent done much programming yet... how much of an impact will it have on compiling stuff for later years in college (i5 vs i7 quad)? Are there ever projects that would really make the i7 quad have a meaningful impact on productivity?

EDIT: Thanks so far though. It looks like (so far) that one will work fine for what I need it for.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 20 2013 09:30 GMT
#7494
Depends on compiler.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
August 20 2013 09:39 GMT
#7495
You won't need a powerful computer for schoolwork... When you start working/interning at companies, chances are performance will matter to some degree (i doubt you'll be compiling large amounts of proprietary code on your laptop though). Keep in mind that compiling programs from an ssd (vs a slow as shit 5400rpm laptop drive) will could make a much larger difference than dual -> quad anyway, not that it matters.
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EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 20 2013 13:44 GMT
#7496
On August 20 2013 07:57 z0rz wrote:
Is that 85-90C with heavy load or is the CPU idle? I mean, either way that's way too hot, but if you're at 90C idle then you really need to stop using your computer immediately and check your CPU heatsink and make sure everything is in order (make sure you have adequate thermal paste on CPU, make sure heatsink is properly secured to CPU, make sure the fans are working, clean out any dust, etc).

Oh, and if you overclocked your CPU at all, go back to stock settings.


More or less idle. Ty will try this. Will a can of compressed air be a good way to clean it?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
August 20 2013 15:06 GMT
#7497
^Yes, but you got some pretty major problem like the heatsink not being in contact with the CPU properly if you're anywhere near 90c idle
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
August 20 2013 16:06 GMT
#7498
On August 20 2013 22:44 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 07:57 z0rz wrote:
Is that 85-90C with heavy load or is the CPU idle? I mean, either way that's way too hot, but if you're at 90C idle then you really need to stop using your computer immediately and check your CPU heatsink and make sure everything is in order (make sure you have adequate thermal paste on CPU, make sure heatsink is properly secured to CPU, make sure the fans are working, clean out any dust, etc).

Oh, and if you overclocked your CPU at all, go back to stock settings.


More or less idle. Ty will try this. Will a can of compressed air be a good way to clean it?


Okay, that's dangerous. As previously mentioned, just dusting off the CPU and cooler may not be enough. I would consider buying thermal paste and applying it (of course that means taking off the previous layer and cleaning the cpu) - it's not expensive and may be the thing that will "fix" the overheating problem. Of course this could also be fan failing, you need to check on that.
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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 20 2013 21:08 GMT
#7499
On August 20 2013 18:30 skyR wrote:
Depends on compiler.

On August 20 2013 18:39 Rollin wrote:
You won't need a powerful computer for schoolwork... When you start working/interning at companies, chances are performance will matter to some degree (i doubt you'll be compiling large amounts of proprietary code on your laptop though). Keep in mind that compiling programs from an ssd (vs a slow as shit 5400rpm laptop drive) will could make a much larger difference than dual -> quad anyway, not that it matters.

Ah, didnt realize that the HDD mattered for compiling speeds. Thanks

Looks like the i5 will work fine for me then.
Stoids
Profile Joined August 2010
United States636 Posts
August 20 2013 21:15 GMT
#7500
If I want to do a light overclock on my new i5 4670k, what would you suggest? I know a lot of people are hitting 4.5+ speeds, but I was thinking about just getting to a stable 4.0 ghz for now through increasing multiplier. Will I need to increase voltage at all, or do you think I'm pretty safe at stock voltage with a minor overlock like this? Using Noctua U-14S cooler, so should be able to handle it pretty easily.

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