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On August 05 2013 13:39 skyR wrote:
50c is not overheating. If the artifacts appear on your screenshots than likely the GPU or VRAM is dying and you need to RMA the card.
You can try downclocking the clocks and see if the problem goes away. You should also reseat the card as you mentioned you moved the computer around but didn't mention reseating it.
Thanks for the reply  .
Yeah, in case of VRAM, I assume restarting it and it going away makes it more likely that it is an issue with VRAM? At least for desktop related artifacts, they usually don't appear until I leave the computer on for like 10-20+ hours.
(Although in terms of game getting blocky artifacts then driver crashing and restarting, it is really random and can sometimes happen within an hour of starting the computer and playing any game. Though again, desktop artifacts usually don't appear until later than 10+ hours at least of the computer being on.)
(Also in terms of driver crashing and restarting, if that happens I can restart the game or still keep using my computer no problem, without having to actually restart the computer that is. However if the desktop artifacts start appearing, then usually my computer may start stalling or hanging for several seconds every few minutes and I'd have to restart my computer.)
Also can voltage or PSU problems lead to these artifacts? How about motherboard related problems? Just wondering what are all the possible causes.
Anyway, thanks for the help everyone . Hopefully replacing the video card will fix this issue (and it's not a weird software problem).
Edit - To confirm, should I use something like OC Scanner or some other program that stress tests the video card (or are the artifacts and being able to screenshot them enough info to say that it's the video card and potentially not something else)? And can those programs test the VRAM too?
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Power supply issues would produce more than artifacts, eg. random shut downs / reboots / not being able to boot up. Motherboard related issues would not result in artifacts unless you were using the integrated graphics.
Artifacts can also be produced by a faulty connection from your GPU to monitor but those would not be visible on a screenshot.
VRAM overheating can also lead to artifacts and unfortunately, you can't monitor your VRAM temperatures. You can try increasing your fan speed to get more airflow to see if it helps.
You can stress-test but I don't think there's a point if you're getting artifacts on the desktop. You can try downclocking the clocks (core, memory, shader) as I mentioned using software like MSI Afterburner and then stress-test or just use the computer regularly to see if the problem persists. There is no software to test VRAM.
And driver crashing is completely random, it can happen for a number of reasons.
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Hey guys. I was here a couple of months back after I built my first PC and experienced some problems. vacation hit me and i lost track off it. Now I want to get back into gaming but first of all i want to solve these issues.
My problems right now are: Ethernet drivers dont automaticly start when i start the pc. I can disable and enable them in device manager manually and it works until i turn the pc off, if I recall I got the recommendation it could be my BIOS is old or i have the wrong settings?
Once I turn the PC off, the fans doesnt stop spinning or shining. I'm thinking this is a PSU issue(A friend had something similar), Is this something I can fix myself(im a big noob) or do I need to return it?
Could this be the MOBO?
If theres any more information you need to help me solve this, ask and ill be sure to find out asap.
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After 3 weeks of not turning on my computer I came back to the following.
-Computer giving off beeping noises. I reset the ram and all is well.
-When I start playing video games I found that there is a huge problem with my gpu whenever I play, well everything.
I currently have a radeon 6800 series GPU (6870 to be exact) and I havn't had any problems with it before I left.
Where should I go from here? How do I tell if it's a hardware problem and not something I can fix without buying a new gpu / computer parts?
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About replacing my video card:
1. GTX 650 TI compared to GTX 560 (what I am currently using).
I don't really know much about cards besides apparently the x60 is usually better than x50 (even if it's a series ahead)? So that means if I get a GTX 650 TI, would that be a huge downgrade from the GTX 560?
I only really play SC2 (in terms of graphical intense games) and some older games.
Also one problem (or rather annoyance) I had with the 560 (despite it being 8.25" x 4.38" which is smaller than a lot of newer cards) is fitting it in nicely.
So, would GTX 650 TI be a noticeable downgrade form the 560 (how much? Any percentage estimates?). The only thing I am worried about the newer cards is the size (which is why I am looking at 650 TI, since it's really small). If I got a big card, would it be fine if the PSU cables and stuff are all crammed and pushing on the video card ?
Thanks again for all the help and replies .
Edit - Thanks for the help and the link . Guess I'll get the GTX 650, it seems for most games or programs I am looking for, the GTX 650 TI is not too far behind on GTX 560 (and in a couple of cases, the 650 is better than the 560).
Well, it's going to be exciting to install a video card (GTX 650 TI is only 6.5~ inches compared to my current 8.25 inches) without having to deal with a jungle of power supply cables everywhere now .
Although the downside is apparently the fan is louder than most video cards but hopefully it's not too bad.
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/543?vs=680
You don't need to spend as much on GPU if you are only playing sc2, unless you're looking to max the game with a ton of FPS and have the ability to play other stuff at good settings
Hard to comment on other stuff without knowing case etc, sorry (and even then i'm not really a case guy)
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I bought an SSD, and i want to put my windows there. I still have my hard drive connected, so i assume i need to just drag my windows folder there, but im not really sure about it. Do i need to download some kind of software for it or is it just that simple? The folder im talking about is in C:\Windows.
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No you can't drag and drop Windows -.- If you tried, it'll tell you that this action can't be completed because the folder is in use.
The easiest way would be unplugging your HDD and installing Windows on your SSD.
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I just finished replacing the thermal compound in my MacBook and have recorded some significant temperature drops. (Initial temperature improvements of ~10C idle, ~10C under load) (Arctic Silver 5)
Is this something that anyone has had experience with in PC laptops? Does it have a similarly large effect?
Edit: No dust removal this time (I try to do that every couple months), only the thermal compound.
I think i'll investigate other electronics then, sounds like fun.
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Replacing stock thermal paste on anything generally offers a big improvement since manufacturer thermal paste quality and application is really shit. Plus cleaning out the dust (if you didn't before) also contributes to the big improvement you see.
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On August 06 2013 05:15 aceofspadess wrote:
I bought an SSD, and i want to put my windows there. I still have my hard drive connected, so i assume i need to just drag my windows folder there, but im not really sure about it. Do i need to download some kind of software for it or is it just that simple? The folder im talking about is in C:\Windows.
Either do a fresh install on the SSD or clone your current boot drive to the SSD. The latter will probably require changing the master boot record and possibly getting a new ID for some obscure thing I always forget about.
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I'm building a new pc with 2 old parts that I never used, but it won't start and I guess the problem is with the PSU (old part, Enermax 625W). How powerful should the PSU be? The requirements for the GeForce 9800 GX2 are kinda confusing.
i5-4570
Gigabyte H87-HD3
DDR3-1333 G.Skill 2x 4GB
GeForce 9800 GX2
1 HDD and DVD drive
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Your PSU is much more than enough to power up the computer.
Are you sure that the PSU still works? You can test it out by trying to jumpstart the PSU.
Guide to Jumpstarting PSU: + Show Spoiler +http://www.overclock.net/t/96712/how-to-jump-start-a-power-supply-psu-test-a-power-supply-and-components
Can you also take pictures of the motherboard and all the connections?
You may have forgotten to plug a power cable into the right spot.
The computer does not turn on at all, right? As in, there are no fans that actually start spinning and no beeping / blinking lights?
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Lights go on, fans start working and after about ~5sec it sounds as if the fans are slowing down and after ~7sec total it shuts down and restarts ~2sec later.
I tried disconnecting SATAs, front audio, switching RAM and without graphics card, always the same result.
I don't have a paper clip at hand -.-
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Are you sure you don't have a thing like what I linked from newegg.com that came with the case?
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 05 2013 22:50 KapsyL wrote:
Hey guys. I was here a couple of months back after I built my first PC and experienced some problems. vacation hit me and i lost track off it. Now I want to get back into gaming but first of all i want to solve these issues.
My problems right now are: Ethernet drivers dont automaticly start when i start the pc. I can disable and enable them in device manager manually and it works until i turn the pc off, if I recall I got the recommendation it could be my BIOS is old or i have the wrong settings?
Once I turn the PC off, the fans doesnt stop spinning or shining. I'm thinking this is a PSU issue(A friend had something similar), Is this something I can fix myself(im a big noob) or do I need to return it?
Could this be the MOBO?
If theres any more information you need to help me solve this, ask and ill be sure to find out asap.
A quick update on what ive been trying to do. I opened up the manual for my mobo and went into BIOS. when I loaded Optimized settings the computer would start and shut down just perfectly. no driver issues or shut down problems.
by googling around like a madman this leads me to believe that the drivers dont start properly/arent installed properly. I went into the BIOS again to see what version i had or something. Found the following: F2, 8AO2AGOE (I dont know what these are or what they do)
Edit: the problems do return after a reboot again without going into bios to load optimized settings. Also even after loading optimized the management engine interface is not using any resources because it has a problem. this device cannot start Code 10. However after the optimized load theres a bunch of other drivers listed in the device manager that arent there during a normal start
Could use some help with this for sure.
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You don't really need to install the management engine stuff, but you need to use the "Intel INF" thingy. That one's intended for Windows to get the right names for all devices of the board.
About BIOS, update to the latest version you can find. Here's the latest if you have Gigabyte Z87 (that "F2" you mention seems like it to me): http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios-13.html#post275114
The stable versions are the ones without a letter at the end. The ones with letters are beta. I'd use stable.
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I will update the BIOS tomorrow and see what happends. Does updating BIOS mean i have to reinstall windows or something?
Also. Where can I find the Intel INF thingie? just google it or?
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