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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Nothing should change in Windows. INF driver is on the Gigabyte website on the page for your board or get it here (search for "inf driver"): http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/30530-latest-overclocking-programs-system-info-benchmarking-stability-tools.html | ||
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
And where can I find it? Edit: Crazy typos | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
It's common knowledge that AMD is so far behind in IPC that one of their piledriver cores has to be clocked at 5ghz just to match a haswell core @3ghz in singlethreaded performance. They hold their own in programs that will heavily utilize all 8 cores, but get trashed in the ones that don't or cannot, Intel has a lead that ranges from about 50% faster to 70+% depending on which numbers you trust for various CPU bound games such as Starcraft 2 and Skyrim They're probably uninformed, and think that "8 cores @4ghz" is better than "4 cores @3.4ghz" stock or something. The ONLY argument that AMD has against intel right now is value, as they sell their 8 core CPU's for £120 while unlocked i5 costs £190 and unlocked i7 costs £275 I mean "you were silly to buy an i5, you could have bought an fx CPU for less money and your performance in X, Y, Z application would not be significantly worse" is an argument you can use, "i5 sucks" is an argument that makes no sense because frankly i5 shits all over fx right now and it'll still be the gamer's choice CPU when Steamroller (next amd gen) CPU's come in the first half of next year and intel's still on the same tech What arguments are they using against it? "AMD is better"? That doesn't make any sense, i can't actually think of anything other than cost that they could use against the i5 in order to dismiss it | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
A long quote from Planetside 2 devs. I think it's very important, because sc2 is in the same boat. We have the exact same kind of Achilles’ heel on the PC too. People who have AMD chips have a disadvantage, because a single core on an AMD chip doesn’t really have as much horsepower and they really require you to kind of spread the load out across multiple cores to be able to take full advantage of the AMD processors. Our engine sucks at that right now. We are multi-threaded, but the primary gameplay thread is very expensive. The biggest piece of engineering work that they’re doing right now, and it’s an enormous effort, is to go back through the engine and re-optimize it to be really, truly multi-threaded and break the gameplay thread up. That’s a very challenging thing to do because we’re doing a lot of stuff – tracking all these different players, all of their movements, all the projectiles, all the physics they’re doing. It’s very challenging to split those really closely connected pieces of functionality across in multiple threads. So it’s a big engineering task for them to do, but thankfully once they do it, AMD players who’ve been having sub-par performance on the PC will suddenly get a massive boost – just because of being able to take the engine and re-implement it as multi-threaded. I’m very excited about that because I have a lot of friends, lots of people who are more budget minded, going for AMD processors because nine times out of ten they give a lot of bang for the buck. Where it really breaks down is on games with one really big thread. PlanetSide’s probably a prime example of that. The current place of AMD's highest end CPU's is at undercutting intel's midrange in price with the understanding that with the right software, they won't be behind in performance. Some stuff is easy to multithread, some stuff is not. If it's "perfectly" coded or easy to run with 8 cores, then FX CPU's can be faster by i5 by like 5-15%, (but worse than the more expensive i7 in every way) and if it's not easy to take advantage of 8 cores with the software, the i5's performance lead is just flat out 40+% (to be conservative - for example, a Piledriver core @5ghz scores ~1.3-1.35 in Cinebench 11.5 singlethreaded, but you can hit 2.0 on a Haswell core @4.5ghz) and occasionally, when stuff scales faster than linear, a lot more | ||
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nimbim
Germany985 Posts
On August 07 2013 02:17 Ropid wrote: Don't worry about the paperclip. The jump starting is just to test what's up with the PSU if absolutely nothing seems to happen, but that's not the case for you if the board starts up the fans and beeps etc. Look at this: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2248.0.html Does one of those codes apply to you? You have to connect the case speaker to hear the beeps, and "case speaker" can be something crappy like this, so look through the accessories you got with the case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812201032 I got a case speaker now, but I can't find the spot to connect it with my motherboard. Also, I found out in the motherboard manual that the clips that hold RAM in place should snap into place when it is properly inserted, but I have pushed as hard as I dared and nothing snaps into place. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:15 nimbim wrote: I got a case speaker now, but I can't find the spot to connect it with my motherboard. Also, I found out in the motherboard manual that the clips that hold RAM in place should snap into place when it is properly inserted, but I have pushed as hard as I dared and nothing snaps into place. Look in the motherboard book for a map of the mobo, should have speaker attachment point there. Double check that you have the little cutout on the ram lined up with with ridge in the port, ram only goes in one way. If you are sure you have it the right way round then put a bit of force behind it, it does require a fair bit. | ||
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nimbim
Germany985 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:18 Blaec wrote: Look in the motherboard book for a map of the mobo, should have speaker attachment point there. Double check that you have the little cutout on the ram lined up with with ridge in the port, ram only goes in one way. If you are sure you have it the right way round then put a bit of force behind it, it does require a fair bit. Thanks for alleviating my fear^^ Everything runs now, thanks everyone | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
All she told me is that is just suddenly "stopped working". So I took it and plugged it into my working KVM and it sounds like the computer runs through POST fine, but there is no video output. All fans and sounds normal, just no video. It's just got some onboard video controller. I put in my spare working card (5770HD) to see if I can get video out of that but still nothing. I suppose if it's set by default in the BIOS to use onboard video and not an independent video card then I would get anything anyway though? Is that likely? If that's the case, there's nothing I can really do because I can't go into the BIOS to change it to use the 5770? Or is it supposed to display on the 5770 by default and there's just something else that is wrong? Or maybe a PSU issue? I didn't promise I can fix it or anything, but if it's something simple enough to do for family I don't mind. Any ideas on what's next? As for the PC, it's just a prebuilt store bought Gateway with a low end Phenom, some embedded Nvidea controller, 3GB DDR2, and 340GB Seagate HDD. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
I don't have access to a external hard-drive case that will hold a 2.5" drive, so i can't test it using that method. However, when I hook it up to my desktop it does show up in the bios and recognizes the drive as existing. Does this mean that my issue is probably the connector itself? Desktop is Windows, so I don't think I can check the drives health from within Windows, perhaps I am wrong? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
 I recommend writing/booting a Hiren CD http://www.hirensbootcd.org/ and using the disks tools on it instead, not mucking around with heatlh checks in Windows. There is also MacDrive among others (Or if you need only read-only, Apple_HFS_Read_Only_Driver_v3.2.0.2.zip works great) you can use to read the drive if you need to back stuff off of it. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
If you are 100% sure of that, you might just be up a creek. If you are not, I usually do the "Remove all the RAM" and make sure I get the no RAM Post beeps, if that does not happen, It usually is toast. (Can always reseat CPU, but that rarely fixes the issue) | ||
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