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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 21:59:26
July 28 2013 21:49 GMT
#7261
On July 29 2013 06:39 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:57 skyR wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:11 XenOmega wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
@skyr and others :

I have an internet problem since I first bought a new router one month ago. From a Dlink, I upgraded to a mynet central n900 to an Asus n56. The problem remains (after changing Mynet to Asus).

The problem :
Regularly (like about once every day), when I OPEN A NEW COMPUTER (or laptop or any device), the internet connection can be lost for ALL the network, or partially lost (for example, all lan are lost, but wireless is still ok).

Scenario A : I'm on my main computer. Internet works perfectly. Brother comes home, opens his computer, the internet is down for both me and him.
Scenario B : I'm on my computer, my brother on his. Internet is down on his computer, but not on mine.
Scenario C : Me and brother are on lan computer, everything is fine. Sister on her laptop, doesn't work, her mobile devices don't work neither. (or vice versa, everything is fine on the wireless, but the lan is down)
Scenario D : I'm on my computer playing a game. Brother comes home, complains that his internet doesn't work. I alt-tab : indeed, my google chrome cannot search any page. HOWEVER, I am still in game playing
Scenario E : No computer can access the internet, but our skype is still working O.o? We can even send msg using skype.
Scenario F : Internet is partially down. Most websites are dead, but something like Facebook is still working.
etc etc. I can go on... most scenarios share some similarities.

Now, this connection issue IS ALWAYS FIXED when I reset the router, sometimes when I reset the modem. It can also, but not always, be fixed by restarting computer. When the error is local (for example, only on my brother's computer), disabling and re-enabling his network card can sometimes fix the issue. I usually only have to do 1 reset/day to fix this issue. Once the issue is fixed, as long as I don't shut down all computers on my network, the problem is gone. If I close all computers, and then open them later, the problem can re-appear.

The error is that : DNS cannot be resolved. (when trying to open a new page)

I believe the issue is not with the routers since I've got two routers : Mynet900, thought it was broken so exchanged it. I'm getting the same issue with the new Asus (1 week old). Also, even when I lose connection, I still can access to my network (I can still access my other computers, I can still access the router from any device). Only the internet is down.

I have two leads, but I am very unsure :

1) I've called my ISP, they weren't of great help. They told me that the issue is on my side (the guy said it could be a network virus, whatever that is). Assuming it is a "network" virus, or a virus that spread through my network, what can I do? As of right now, I'd prefer not reformatting 5 computers of my networks + other devices. It would be a huge pain. Virus scan from all 5 computers with microsoft essentials do not detect anything.

2) NOW, I believe (but it's possible that the issue was already appearing when I first bought the mynet900) this became an when I tried to change my IP address from dynamic to static (I was trying to configure my router because it wouldn't allow download, some websites suggested port fowarding to a static IP). I used a program that would change from dynamic to static. But since it didn't work anyway, I just reseted (going back to dynamic). From that day on, my network had this issue constantly. I'm not sure if this is the cause though, because I reverted back to dynamic.

This is the software used ; I do not believe that it is a virus
http://portforward.com/help/setup_static_ip_address.htm


Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thnx


Skype and gaming does not rely on DNS, that's why they continue to work when your DNS fails. Try using Google's DNS which is primary 8.8.8.8 and secondary 8.8.4.4 .

As for the first problem of where the internet dies when another computer is being turned on, it might be a result of using both static and dynamic IP at the same time on the network. So make sure that all the computers on the network obtain their IP automatically.


How do I use google DNS?

As for the static v Dynamic, interesting point. It is dynamic by default right? can it be altered on its own?


On Windows 7 you go into the network and sharing center and then on the right hand side there is a connection: (XXXXX). Click on that and then go to properties. Find Internet Protocol Version 4 and click on properties again. Change your DNS server there by selecting Use the following DNS server.

google primary 8.8.8.8
google secondary 8.8.4.4

You can also set up static IP addresses here, although I wouldn't mess with it if you don't know what you're doing. If you want to set them up it is easy to explain though.


If you want to set it up for all the computers at once type your default gateway IP address into a web browser and log in (typically admin/admin or admin no password). The first page that comes up should have DNS static 1, 2, 3 which you'll change to the above. Leave 3 blank or grab the primary DNS you're currently using. To get your default gateway and DNS servers type ipconfig /all into command line (typically 192.168.1.1).
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 28 2013 21:51 GMT
#7262
On July 29 2013 06:39 XenOmega wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2013 05:57 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:11 XenOmega wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
@skyr and others :

I have an internet problem since I first bought a new router one month ago. From a Dlink, I upgraded to a mynet central n900 to an Asus n56. The problem remains (after changing Mynet to Asus).

The problem :
Regularly (like about once every day), when I OPEN A NEW COMPUTER (or laptop or any device), the internet connection can be lost for ALL the network, or partially lost (for example, all lan are lost, but wireless is still ok).

Scenario A : I'm on my main computer. Internet works perfectly. Brother comes home, opens his computer, the internet is down for both me and him.
Scenario B : I'm on my computer, my brother on his. Internet is down on his computer, but not on mine.
Scenario C : Me and brother are on lan computer, everything is fine. Sister on her laptop, doesn't work, her mobile devices don't work neither. (or vice versa, everything is fine on the wireless, but the lan is down)
Scenario D : I'm on my computer playing a game. Brother comes home, complains that his internet doesn't work. I alt-tab : indeed, my google chrome cannot search any page. HOWEVER, I am still in game playing
Scenario E : No computer can access the internet, but our skype is still working O.o? We can even send msg using skype.
Scenario F : Internet is partially down. Most websites are dead, but something like Facebook is still working.
etc etc. I can go on... most scenarios share some similarities.

Now, this connection issue IS ALWAYS FIXED when I reset the router, sometimes when I reset the modem. It can also, but not always, be fixed by restarting computer. When the error is local (for example, only on my brother's computer), disabling and re-enabling his network card can sometimes fix the issue. I usually only have to do 1 reset/day to fix this issue. Once the issue is fixed, as long as I don't shut down all computers on my network, the problem is gone. If I close all computers, and then open them later, the problem can re-appear.

The error is that : DNS cannot be resolved. (when trying to open a new page)

I believe the issue is not with the routers since I've got two routers : Mynet900, thought it was broken so exchanged it. I'm getting the same issue with the new Asus (1 week old). Also, even when I lose connection, I still can access to my network (I can still access my other computers, I can still access the router from any device). Only the internet is down.

I have two leads, but I am very unsure :

1) I've called my ISP, they weren't of great help. They told me that the issue is on my side (the guy said it could be a network virus, whatever that is). Assuming it is a "network" virus, or a virus that spread through my network, what can I do? As of right now, I'd prefer not reformatting 5 computers of my networks + other devices. It would be a huge pain. Virus scan from all 5 computers with microsoft essentials do not detect anything.

2) NOW, I believe (but it's possible that the issue was already appearing when I first bought the mynet900) this became an when I tried to change my IP address from dynamic to static (I was trying to configure my router because it wouldn't allow download, some websites suggested port fowarding to a static IP). I used a program that would change from dynamic to static. But since it didn't work anyway, I just reseted (going back to dynamic). From that day on, my network had this issue constantly. I'm not sure if this is the cause though, because I reverted back to dynamic.

This is the software used ; I do not believe that it is a virus
http://portforward.com/help/setup_static_ip_address.htm


Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thnx


Skype and gaming does not rely on DNS, that's why they continue to work when your DNS fails. Try using Google's DNS which is primary 8.8.8.8 and secondary 8.8.4.4 .

As for the first problem of where the internet dies when another computer is being turned on, it might be a result of using both static and dynamic IP at the same time on the network. So make sure that all the computers on the network obtain their IP automatically.


How do I use google DNS?

As for the static v Dynamic, interesting point. It is dynamic by default right? can it be altered on its own?


In your router, there should be DNS settings. You want to set it to static and set primary to 8.8.8.8 and secondary to 8.8.4.4. You can also do it locally for each computer as Blitzkrieg0 pointed out.

Yes it's dynamic by default

On July 29 2013 06:42 wangstra wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to wipe my hard drive including the partition with my SC2 install. Previously it used to be you'd download the .exe which you used to install the game (which you could then save). Is there a way to preserve my download without forcing a new download after I format?


Just copy paste your Starcraft II folder.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 28 2013 21:55 GMT
#7263
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 22:10:21
July 28 2013 21:58 GMT
#7264
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 28 2013 22:24 GMT
#7265
On July 29 2013 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.


I'm pretty sure all computers are set on Auto assign IP, ill verify right away.

Changing the DNS to the google, do you think its enough to fix my problem? I can't do it right away since my brother needs the internet for a while (so I can't disrupt it)
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 22:35:43
July 28 2013 22:35 GMT
#7266
On July 29 2013 07:24 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.


I'm pretty sure all computers are set on Auto assign IP, ill verify right away.

Changing the DNS to the google, do you think its enough to fix my problem? I can't do it right away since my brother needs the internet for a while (so I can't disrupt it)


It sounds like you're having an IP address conflict which requires other measures, but you can try using Google's DNS servers to see if it fixes your issue. If one computer works and the other doesn't then there shouldn't be anything wrong with the DNS server (You could also do an ipconfig /all and verify that they're using the same DNS servers, but that shouldn't be the issue).
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 28 2013 22:45 GMT
#7267
On July 29 2013 07:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:24 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.


I'm pretty sure all computers are set on Auto assign IP, ill verify right away.

Changing the DNS to the google, do you think its enough to fix my problem? I can't do it right away since my brother needs the internet for a while (so I can't disrupt it)


It sounds like you're having an IP address conflict which requires other measures, but you can try using Google's DNS servers to see if it fixes your issue. If one computer works and the other doesn't then there shouldn't be anything wrong with the DNS server (You could also do an ipconfig /all and verify that they're using the same DNS servers, but that shouldn't be the issue).


But the Router is supposed to assign automatically right? I was with an old router (dlink) for a few years (Dlink dir 615? not sure) and never had this issue. It started with Mynet central 900 from WD, and it continued with Asus 56. In my post earlier, I said I believed it could be due to me trying to switch my ip from dynamic to static, and vice-versa. Otherwise, if that's not the cause, then the only thing I can think of that changed was me switching router
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 28 2013 22:48 GMT
#7268
On July 29 2013 07:24 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.


I'm pretty sure all computers are set on Auto assign IP, ill verify right away.

Changing the DNS to the google, do you think its enough to fix my problem? I can't do it right away since my brother needs the internet for a while (so I can't disrupt it)

You can set the DNS server that's used on the PC. You don't need to touch the router for that.

Through DHCP, your PC gets its IP and also the DNS server to use. You can override only the DNS part without disabling the automatic IP. It looks like this in practice: http://i.imgur.com/dudWykm.png. Here's IPv6: http://i.imgur.com/67vM9ie.png. Those are the Google DNS servers.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#7269
Oops, I went ahead and changed my router settings to use the DNS of Google

If the DNS isn't the issue, what can I do to fix my IP conflict issue (or how can I verify that it is an IP issue?)?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 23:17:34
July 28 2013 23:11 GMT
#7270
On July 29 2013 07:45 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:24 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.


I'm pretty sure all computers are set on Auto assign IP, ill verify right away.

Changing the DNS to the google, do you think its enough to fix my problem? I can't do it right away since my brother needs the internet for a while (so I can't disrupt it)


It sounds like you're having an IP address conflict which requires other measures, but you can try using Google's DNS servers to see if it fixes your issue. If one computer works and the other doesn't then there shouldn't be anything wrong with the DNS server (You could also do an ipconfig /all and verify that they're using the same DNS servers, but that shouldn't be the issue).


But the Router is supposed to assign automatically right? I was with an old router (dlink) for a few years (Dlink dir 615? not sure) and never had this issue. It started with Mynet central 900 from WD, and it continued with Asus 56. In my post earlier, I said I believed it could be due to me trying to switch my ip from dynamic to static, and vice-versa. Otherwise, if that's not the cause, then the only thing I can think of that changed was me switching router


Basically my idea is that some device got locked into static when you tried to configure it that way. Your router assigns that static IP to another device because it is on dynamic and then you have an ip address conflict and one of the devices doesn't work. It claims a DNS issue because the DNS server it tries to contact is routing all it's traffic back to the other device because the routing table in the router has the other device as that IP address so it doesn't send anything to the second device with the same IP address. When you do a hard restart of the router that IP address would be flagged in use because it was leased recently and then everything is assigned a unique IP address and works just fine.

Your DNS server shouldn't be broken when it is working on a computer but not on another. Since this problem has been occurring across multiple routers then your problem should be the one listed above and not related to the router itself at all.

On July 29 2013 08:07 XenOmega wrote:
Oops, I went ahead and changed my router settings to use the DNS of Google

If the DNS isn't the issue, what can I do to fix my IP conflict issue (or how can I verify that it is an IP issue?)?


Go into the network dialog on the PC itself from above and verify that all of them are obtaining IP address automatically. That will make them pull from the DNS server. Alternately you can go in and setup a static IP address on all of them which I can walk you through. If two of your devices start acting up again you can do an ipconfig on them both and verify that they each have unique IP address. The last octet of the IP address should be unique (192.168.1.X). The X number at the end is the last octet of the IP address. If your first three octets are different from the ones I listed above that doesn't matter.

+ Show Spoiler [directions to network dialog] +
In Windows 7 you go into the network and sharing center and then on the right hand side there is a connection: (XXXXX). Click on that and then go to properties. Find Internet Protocol Version 4 and click on properties again. The IP address of the computer is the top part.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
holyhalo5
Profile Joined October 2009
United States187 Posts
July 28 2013 23:16 GMT
#7271
I just built my new desktop and plugged in the monitor. The computer runs, but the monitor says "no signal". Why is this?
I'm cold as iceeeee
-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
July 28 2013 23:20 GMT
#7272
On July 29 2013 08:16 holyhalo5 wrote:
I just built my new desktop and plugged in the monitor. The computer runs, but the monitor says "no signal". Why is this?
Make sure you connected the monitor's cable to the GPU and not the motherboard.
Life..
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 28 2013 23:24 GMT
#7273
On July 29 2013 08:11 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:45 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:24 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.


I'm pretty sure all computers are set on Auto assign IP, ill verify right away.

Changing the DNS to the google, do you think its enough to fix my problem? I can't do it right away since my brother needs the internet for a while (so I can't disrupt it)


It sounds like you're having an IP address conflict which requires other measures, but you can try using Google's DNS servers to see if it fixes your issue. If one computer works and the other doesn't then there shouldn't be anything wrong with the DNS server (You could also do an ipconfig /all and verify that they're using the same DNS servers, but that shouldn't be the issue).


But the Router is supposed to assign automatically right? I was with an old router (dlink) for a few years (Dlink dir 615? not sure) and never had this issue. It started with Mynet central 900 from WD, and it continued with Asus 56. In my post earlier, I said I believed it could be due to me trying to switch my ip from dynamic to static, and vice-versa. Otherwise, if that's not the cause, then the only thing I can think of that changed was me switching router


Basically my idea is that some device got locked into static when you tried to configure it that way. Your router assigns that static IP to another device because it is on dynamic and then you have an ip address conflict and one of the devices doesn't work. It claims a DNS issue because the DNS server it tries to contact is routing all it's traffic back to the other device because the routing table in the router has the other device as that IP address so it doesn't send anything to the second device with the same IP address. When you do a hard restart of the router that IP address would be flagged in use because it was leased recently and then everything is assigned a unique IP address and works just fine.

Your DNS server shouldn't be broken when it is working on a computer but not on another. Since this problem has been occurring across multiple routers then your problem should be the one listed above and not related to the router itself at all.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:07 XenOmega wrote:
Oops, I went ahead and changed my router settings to use the DNS of Google

If the DNS isn't the issue, what can I do to fix my IP conflict issue (or how can I verify that it is an IP issue?)?


Go into the network dialog on the PC itself from above and verify that all of them are obtaining IP address automatically. That will make them pull from the DNS server. Alternately you can go in and setup a static IP address on all of them which I can walk you through. If two of your devices start acting up again you can do an ipconfig on them both and verify that they each have unique IP address. The last octet of the IP address should be unique (192.168.1.X). The X number at the end is the last octet of the IP address. If your first three octets are different from the ones I listed above that doesn't matter.

+ Show Spoiler [directions to network dialog] +
In Windows 7 you go into the network and sharing center and then on the right hand side there is a connection: (XXXXX). Click on that and then go to properties. Find Internet Protocol Version 4 and click on properties again. The IP address of the computer is the top part.


Ok, I got control of all my PC now. So if I understand well, if two PC's IP conflict, it will crash the entire network? Because sometimes, I can't connect to the internet on more than 2 computers. Most of the times though, its a conflict between my wired devices and my wireless. Wired doesn't work, but wireless does
holyhalo5
Profile Joined October 2009
United States187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 23:34:47
July 28 2013 23:26 GMT
#7274
On July 29 2013 08:20 -RusH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:16 holyhalo5 wrote:
I just built my new desktop and plugged in the monitor. The computer runs, but the monitor says "no signal". Why is this?
Make sure you connected the monitor's cable to the GPU and not the motherboard.


Tried that, still doesn't work. Could it possibly be a defect from one of the components?

EDIT: Never mind it worked perfectly. Thank you :D
I'm cold as iceeeee
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 01:00:15
July 29 2013 00:01 GMT
#7275
On July 29 2013 08:24 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:11 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:45 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:24 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.


I'm pretty sure all computers are set on Auto assign IP, ill verify right away.

Changing the DNS to the google, do you think its enough to fix my problem? I can't do it right away since my brother needs the internet for a while (so I can't disrupt it)


It sounds like you're having an IP address conflict which requires other measures, but you can try using Google's DNS servers to see if it fixes your issue. If one computer works and the other doesn't then there shouldn't be anything wrong with the DNS server (You could also do an ipconfig /all and verify that they're using the same DNS servers, but that shouldn't be the issue).


But the Router is supposed to assign automatically right? I was with an old router (dlink) for a few years (Dlink dir 615? not sure) and never had this issue. It started with Mynet central 900 from WD, and it continued with Asus 56. In my post earlier, I said I believed it could be due to me trying to switch my ip from dynamic to static, and vice-versa. Otherwise, if that's not the cause, then the only thing I can think of that changed was me switching router


Basically my idea is that some device got locked into static when you tried to configure it that way. Your router assigns that static IP to another device because it is on dynamic and then you have an ip address conflict and one of the devices doesn't work. It claims a DNS issue because the DNS server it tries to contact is routing all it's traffic back to the other device because the routing table in the router has the other device as that IP address so it doesn't send anything to the second device with the same IP address. When you do a hard restart of the router that IP address would be flagged in use because it was leased recently and then everything is assigned a unique IP address and works just fine.

Your DNS server shouldn't be broken when it is working on a computer but not on another. Since this problem has been occurring across multiple routers then your problem should be the one listed above and not related to the router itself at all.

On July 29 2013 08:07 XenOmega wrote:
Oops, I went ahead and changed my router settings to use the DNS of Google

If the DNS isn't the issue, what can I do to fix my IP conflict issue (or how can I verify that it is an IP issue?)?


Go into the network dialog on the PC itself from above and verify that all of them are obtaining IP address automatically. That will make them pull from the DNS server. Alternately you can go in and setup a static IP address on all of them which I can walk you through. If two of your devices start acting up again you can do an ipconfig on them both and verify that they each have unique IP address. The last octet of the IP address should be unique (192.168.1.X). The X number at the end is the last octet of the IP address. If your first three octets are different from the ones I listed above that doesn't matter.

+ Show Spoiler [directions to network dialog] +
In Windows 7 you go into the network and sharing center and then on the right hand side there is a connection: (XXXXX). Click on that and then go to properties. Find Internet Protocol Version 4 and click on properties again. The IP address of the computer is the top part.


Ok, I got control of all my PC now. So if I understand well, if two PC's IP conflict, it will crash the entire network? Because sometimes, I can't connect to the internet on more than 2 computers. Most of the times though, its a conflict between my wired devices and my wireless. Wired doesn't work, but wireless does


I am going to suggest you setup static IP addresses on everything just because it is the easiest way to verify if this is your issue or not.

First you need to go into your router and check which IP address your DHCP server is dynamically assigning. After opening your default gateway in a web browser it should be about halfway down the page. My DHCP server starts at 192.168.1.100 so I'll be utilizing it in my example. You can change yours to match + Show Spoiler [just in case] +
I have assumed that you're using the standard public class C address for your network in this example. If your network isn't using 192.168.1.X scheme then copy whatever your first three octets are and follow the same principles.
or just follow the principles so that nothing conflicts The first three octets of the IP address which are in bold (192.168.1.X) should be the same for your entire network. You'll copy these throughout. The last octet must be unique for each device so you'll be changing that X value so that each device in your network has a unique IP address allocated to it. The network address should be .0 and your default gateway should be .1 so we're going to skip these. My first device is going to be assigned the next IP address so it will be 192.168.1.2 Your subnet mask should automatically fill in at 255.255.255.0 which is correct because we aren't doing any subnetting. If it doesn't autofill simply put in 255.255.255.0 as well. Your router (default gateway) is 192.168.1.1 so fill that in as well. If you have laptops, phones, or other devices that are used in multiple locations then you'll want them to be dynamically assigned IP addresses because your static IP address won't work with any network you pick up. There is a way to setup multiple schemes, but it is beyond the scope of your problem I believe so we'll worry about that down the road if it is an issue.

Then simply keep increasing the last octet by one for each new device so I have my second PC set to 192.168.1.3 and my network printer set to 192.168.1.4; you will have to go in and manually configure this IP address on every device on your network. Make sure your DHCP server is starting at a different number so that it doesn't make a conflict with an IP address that you've assigned to a device.
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XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 29 2013 03:36 GMT
#7276
On July 29 2013 09:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:24 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 08:11 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:45 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:24 XenOmega wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 XenOmega wrote:
I googled to search if my connection was static or dynamic ; it says if with ipconfig /all, I find dhcp "no" then it means static. Assuming my internet is indeed static, does it conflict with router default settings? Its the first time I'm having this issue with any router


The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to computers and has nothing to do with DNS. Your router is probably your DHCP server and your DNS server should be through your ISP. You may be having IP conflicts if some of your computers have static IPs and the DHCP server is assigning those addresses to other computers.

Make sure all your computers are set to automatically be assigned an IP address (or make a unique static for each device; I can walk you through how to set that up if you want). You'll also want to make sure your router has DHCP enabled, but it should be on by default. You can check by typing your default gateway into the web browser and logging in. DHCP Server enabled or disabled has little bubbles about halfway down the page.


I'm pretty sure all computers are set on Auto assign IP, ill verify right away.

Changing the DNS to the google, do you think its enough to fix my problem? I can't do it right away since my brother needs the internet for a while (so I can't disrupt it)


It sounds like you're having an IP address conflict which requires other measures, but you can try using Google's DNS servers to see if it fixes your issue. If one computer works and the other doesn't then there shouldn't be anything wrong with the DNS server (You could also do an ipconfig /all and verify that they're using the same DNS servers, but that shouldn't be the issue).


But the Router is supposed to assign automatically right? I was with an old router (dlink) for a few years (Dlink dir 615? not sure) and never had this issue. It started with Mynet central 900 from WD, and it continued with Asus 56. In my post earlier, I said I believed it could be due to me trying to switch my ip from dynamic to static, and vice-versa. Otherwise, if that's not the cause, then the only thing I can think of that changed was me switching router


Basically my idea is that some device got locked into static when you tried to configure it that way. Your router assigns that static IP to another device because it is on dynamic and then you have an ip address conflict and one of the devices doesn't work. It claims a DNS issue because the DNS server it tries to contact is routing all it's traffic back to the other device because the routing table in the router has the other device as that IP address so it doesn't send anything to the second device with the same IP address. When you do a hard restart of the router that IP address would be flagged in use because it was leased recently and then everything is assigned a unique IP address and works just fine.

Your DNS server shouldn't be broken when it is working on a computer but not on another. Since this problem has been occurring across multiple routers then your problem should be the one listed above and not related to the router itself at all.

On July 29 2013 08:07 XenOmega wrote:
Oops, I went ahead and changed my router settings to use the DNS of Google

If the DNS isn't the issue, what can I do to fix my IP conflict issue (or how can I verify that it is an IP issue?)?


Go into the network dialog on the PC itself from above and verify that all of them are obtaining IP address automatically. That will make them pull from the DNS server. Alternately you can go in and setup a static IP address on all of them which I can walk you through. If two of your devices start acting up again you can do an ipconfig on them both and verify that they each have unique IP address. The last octet of the IP address should be unique (192.168.1.X). The X number at the end is the last octet of the IP address. If your first three octets are different from the ones I listed above that doesn't matter.

+ Show Spoiler [directions to network dialog] +
In Windows 7 you go into the network and sharing center and then on the right hand side there is a connection: (XXXXX). Click on that and then go to properties. Find Internet Protocol Version 4 and click on properties again. The IP address of the computer is the top part.


Ok, I got control of all my PC now. So if I understand well, if two PC's IP conflict, it will crash the entire network? Because sometimes, I can't connect to the internet on more than 2 computers. Most of the times though, its a conflict between my wired devices and my wireless. Wired doesn't work, but wireless does


I am going to suggest you setup static IP addresses on everything just because it is the easiest way to verify if this is your issue or not.

First you need to go into your router and check which IP address your DHCP server is dynamically assigning. After opening your default gateway in a web browser it should be about halfway down the page. My DHCP server starts at 192.168.1.100 so I'll be utilizing it in my example. You can change yours to match + Show Spoiler [just in case] +
I have assumed that you're using the standard public class C address for your network in this example. If your network isn't using 192.168.1.X scheme then copy whatever your first three octets are and follow the same principles.
or just follow the principles so that nothing conflicts The first three octets of the IP address which are in bold (192.168.1.X) should be the same for your entire network. You'll copy these throughout. The last octet must be unique for each device so you'll be changing that X value so that each device in your network has a unique IP address allocated to it. The network address should be .0 and your default gateway should be .1 so we're going to skip these. My first device is going to be assigned the next IP address so it will be 192.168.1.2 Your subnet mask should automatically fill in at 255.255.255.0 which is correct because we aren't doing any subnetting. If it doesn't autofill simply put in 255.255.255.0 as well. Your router (default gateway) is 192.168.1.1 so fill that in as well. If you have laptops, phones, or other devices that are used in multiple locations then you'll want them to be dynamically assigned IP addresses because your static IP address won't work with any network you pick up. There is a way to setup multiple schemes, but it is beyond the scope of your problem I believe so we'll worry about that down the road if it is an issue.

Then simply keep increasing the last octet by one for each new device so I have my second PC set to 192.168.1.3 and my network printer set to 192.168.1.4; you will have to go in and manually configure this IP address on every device on your network. Make sure your DHCP server is starting at a different number so that it doesn't make a conflict with an IP address that you've assigned to a device.



I'll give this a try tomorrow

I had a weird issue after chaning to google DNS. Everything was fine, until I opened everything. At some point, all computers lost connection to the internet (in the network, the internet was not connected in the graph). Resetting modem didn't change a thing. However, as soon as I finished transfering a big file, I regained internet O.o (during the downtime, I was not able to access the router neither with the 192.168.1.1 url)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 05:35:40
July 29 2013 05:35 GMT
#7277
Nevermind, already was answered.
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XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 29 2013 21:27 GMT
#7278
update on my situation : Have not set up the Static ip yet
I was checking my CLIENTS tab, and decided to refresh it...

Lost partial connection. League of Legends + Skype were still working fine, everything else was not accessible

Refreshed again : All connections work now.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 30 2013 03:06 GMT
#7279
I've upgraded the firmware, hopefully, this will fix the issue!

About the QOS, is it supposed to work? I have it on, but my network seems to be unable to handle the traffic from HD streaming, gaming, internet, downloads, etc.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17247 Posts
July 30 2013 03:39 GMT
#7280
QoS just attempts to prioritize certain traffic over others. If you don't have the bandwidth, it won't help.
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