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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
July 15 2013 21:10 GMT
#7121
Unstable OC can cause a ton of issue, what code is that?

And also, what OC settings are you using, how did you test them etc
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
July 15 2013 21:26 GMT
#7122
On July 16 2013 06:10 Cyro wrote:
Unstable OC can cause a ton of issue, what code is that?

And also, what OC settings are you using, how did you test them etc

I am at 1.14V and 4.4ghz for the haswell i5.
Stop code was 0x00000124
I tested with prime95 and IBT. I just re-ran IBT 10 trials using almost all of the ram. Passed fine. I think I'm gonna turn off the OC for now see if it goes away, and redo the OC later. At least I can't damage my gears that way.
It's strange to me, since there doesn't seem to be a trigger for when the blue screen happens. The two times it happened I had skype chat and firefox on for both, maybe was during alttabbing or switching windows.
Any tips would be great, thanks.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 15 2013 21:27 GMT
#7123
124 typically means more voltage of some sort.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 23:50:30
July 15 2013 22:02 GMT
#7124
Yea IBT is hardly an exhaustive test (i've passed ibt @1.158v and bluescreened past 1.2v before)

Prime too, i've passed 24 hours @ 4.7, 1.33vcore yet i'm completely unable to stabilize it 100%

If you add 0.03vcore for example and dont see any issues, then you can step down slowly. If you were able to pass so much stress testing, you can probably get by with +0.01.

1.14 for 4.4 is also a great voltage, did you check out the scaling on that thing? If you use IBT/Prime with avx on, you'll get ridiculous temps with Haswell. Try Cinebench 11.5 and x264 benchmark 5.0.1. Some chips can get 100mhz for 0.025v, others need a lot more (mine needs ~0.06v..)

There's also the fact that you can tune VRIN etc, you should set VRIN LLC extreme and play around with the values. I've seen people using way higher VRIN's on some motherboards (not sure how motherboard could affect it..) but on giga for example i get best results at ~1.85 in the ~1.2-1.25vcore range, less vrin for less vcore, more vrin for more vcore. An OC that would be stable with 1.9vrin can not even boot with 1.7, or vice versa, it makes a massive difference to stability and how much vcore you need.

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
July 16 2013 12:05 GMT
#7125
Alright thanks for the tips guys. Gonna scale back the clocking for now to see if the CPU is the problem for sure and play around with the settings like you said.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 23:26:51
July 16 2013 23:00 GMT
#7126
My Firefox takes an unusually long amount of time to load the first web page once the Firefox window has opened up. Any ideas on what's causing this and/or how to fix it?

- The Firefox application itself opens very very quickly.
- It's just Firefox that does it. Chrome/IE are fine.
- After the initial page loads (takes 5-8 seconds) everything after that is super fast/normal.
- It's consistent.
- It' been doing it for a long time (probably a year?), but wasn't like that initially.
- It does it no matter what page I try to load upon starting it.

I don't think I've reinstalled Firefox yet, but I wanted to see if anyone has any ideas before doing so.

edit: I've found out MediaHint (addon) is causing it. Not sure what to do though cause I need media hint for Pandora t.t
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/media-hint/reviews/485004/
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 23:42:41
July 16 2013 23:41 GMT
#7127
On July 16 2013 21:05 Spec wrote:
Alright thanks for the tips guys. Gonna scale back the clocking for now to see if the CPU is the problem for sure and play around with the settings like you said.


If that's your problem, it's probably just a tiny bit too little vcore, especially with 0x0124, it's hard to stress test properly for all loads as i've found for example where i can pass IBT at 4.8 (and definitely game on it) but i cant actually make >4.5 seem to hold up if i throw a lot of extremely varied loads at it for an extended amount of time. I'd probably have 4.7 as a 24/7 overclock, but i'm sitting back on 4.5 for a while because of it. That's a different issue, but point is it's easy to pass a stress test or two, and then fail later, especially if it takes a long time to do it. A random 0x0124 is usually just add 0.01vcore and see if it hits you again i'd say, if you put a little work into stress testing beforehand

And Grobyc, i have no idea but you could try using a different DNS (wild guess)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
IAmThEnd
Profile Joined April 2013
United States111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 05:46:55
July 17 2013 05:46 GMT
#7128
So recently I've been having lag spikes whenever I played video games, not noticeable when surfing the web, but noticeable as I watch streams. Anyways, I've been reading forums and it turns out many people experience the same problem. One guy said the tech support told him that on hot days, it is possible to experience this because the heat expands the wires or something like that. Is this true? On one hand I'd like it to be true because I can't figure out what is wrong and this came out of nowhere after 4+ years of service, but then again why didn't I experience this the prior summers, and why would any gamer want to live in California if this was true? Anyone else experience this problem? If so, what fixed it?
I am unimpressed. I am ungrateful. I am a leech, a parasite. I am a vampire.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 17 2013 06:58 GMT
#7129
On July 17 2013 08:00 Grobyc wrote:
My Firefox takes an unusually long amount of time to load the first web page once the Firefox window has opened up. Any ideas on what's causing this and/or how to fix it?

- The Firefox application itself opens very very quickly.
- It's just Firefox that does it. Chrome/IE are fine.
- After the initial page loads (takes 5-8 seconds) everything after that is super fast/normal.
- It's consistent.
- It' been doing it for a long time (probably a year?), but wasn't like that initially.
- It does it no matter what page I try to load upon starting it.

I don't think I've reinstalled Firefox yet, but I wanted to see if anyone has any ideas before doing so.

edit: I've found out MediaHint (addon) is causing it. Not sure what to do though cause I need media hint for Pandora t.t
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/media-hint/reviews/485004/


If you have a decent amount of RAM (6GB+) I have made a RAM drive for my browser and used it in there, I did to save wear on my Solid State Drive (http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk) and install Portable Firefox on it (http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable) or your favorite browser.

Just a suggestion
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 07:04:26
July 17 2013 07:01 GMT
#7130
On July 17 2013 14:46 IAmThEnd wrote:
So recently I've been having lag spikes whenever I played video games, not noticeable when surfing the web, but noticeable as I watch streams. Anyways, I've been reading forums and it turns out many people experience the same problem. One guy said the tech support told him that on hot days, it is possible to experience this because the heat expands the wires or something like that. Is this true? On one hand I'd like it to be true because I can't figure out what is wrong and this came out of nowhere after 4+ years of service, but then again why didn't I experience this the prior summers, and why would any gamer want to live in California if this was true? Anyone else experience this problem? If so, what fixed it?


In Cali, I do not believe this at all, we run 110f/45c often here in Phoenix, Arizona, does not affect our connections.

Desktop/Laptop? Wireless/Wired? run a "ping -t twitch.tv" and see if the numbers change a lot?

I guarantee you it's not because of the heat in Cali. Tell us more about your connection/router/etc.
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IAmThEnd
Profile Joined April 2013
United States111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 08:06:19
July 17 2013 08:02 GMT
#7131
On July 17 2013 16:01 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 14:46 IAmThEnd wrote:
So recently I've been having lag spikes whenever I played video games, not noticeable when surfing the web, but noticeable as I watch streams. Anyways, I've been reading forums and it turns out many people experience the same problem. One guy said the tech support told him that on hot days, it is possible to experience this because the heat expands the wires or something like that. Is this true? On one hand I'd like it to be true because I can't figure out what is wrong and this came out of nowhere after 4+ years of service, but then again why didn't I experience this the prior summers, and why would any gamer want to live in California if this was true? Anyone else experience this problem? If so, what fixed it?


In Cali, I do not believe this at all, we run 110f/45c often here in Phoenix, Arizona, does not affect our connections.

Desktop/Laptop? Wireless/Wired? run a "ping -t twitch.tv" and see if the numbers change a lot?

I guarantee you it's not because of the heat in Cali. Tell us more about your connection/router/etc.


Desktop, wired of course. I tried pinging a couple sites and they all end up as a long list of "Request timed out" I tried plugging it directly into the modem and still experience lag spikes. The coaxial splits into tv/modem so I took off the tv splitter and straight modem and still lag. My ISP is Comcast and I see on google search that recently alot of people on League of Legends are getting the same problem with Comcast. Should I say fuck this and switch ISP?

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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 09:44:44
July 17 2013 09:44 GMT
#7132
On July 17 2013 17:02 IAmThEnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 16:01 scott31337 wrote:
On July 17 2013 14:46 IAmThEnd wrote:
So recently I've been having lag spikes whenever I played video games, not noticeable when surfing the web, but noticeable as I watch streams. Anyways, I've been reading forums and it turns out many people experience the same problem. One guy said the tech support told him that on hot days, it is possible to experience this because the heat expands the wires or something like that. Is this true? On one hand I'd like it to be true because I can't figure out what is wrong and this came out of nowhere after 4+ years of service, but then again why didn't I experience this the prior summers, and why would any gamer want to live in California if this was true? Anyone else experience this problem? If so, what fixed it?


In Cali, I do not believe this at all, we run 110f/45c often here in Phoenix, Arizona, does not affect our connections.

Desktop/Laptop? Wireless/Wired? run a "ping -t twitch.tv" and see if the numbers change a lot?

I guarantee you it's not because of the heat in Cali. Tell us more about your connection/router/etc.


Desktop, wired of course. I tried pinging a couple sites and they all end up as a long list of "Request timed out" I tried plugging it directly into the modem and still experience lag spikes. The coaxial splits into tv/modem so I took off the tv splitter and straight modem and still lag. My ISP is Comcast and I see on google search that recently alot of people on League of Legends are getting the same problem with Comcast. Should I say fuck this and switch ISP?

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Connect your PC directly to the modem (if not already) and make a traceroute; then ping the first public IP address you see in it (that is not your own).
  • If you also get packet loss, then the problem is on the last mile => contact your ISP, they should fix it.
  • If you don't get packt loss, but get packet loss pinging stuff like google (8.8.8.8 is always a good target), then the problem is either in the backbone of your provider or with one of its peering. You can still contact your provider, but chances are that they are more or less going to ignore you. They might still fix it, but often helpdesk personel does not trust/care about users reporting backbone issues.


Also, cables (as in coax cables used for TVs) having issues with temperatures is something I've never heard of. I'm working for a swiss cable ISP, and we have temperatures differences of up to 50 degrees (Celsius) between summer and winter. Temperature has never been an issue for our cables.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17246 Posts
July 17 2013 23:52 GMT
#7133
A friend of mine's PC stopped working a few days ago. It wouldn't power up and only a light on the mobo would turn on. He replaced the motherboard and borrowed one of my PSUs (that definitely works), but he's still getting the same issue.

The only thing I can come up with is some kind of a short in one of the components that are plugged in or the chassis itself. Any ideas?
twitch.tv/cratonz
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 02:11:25
July 18 2013 02:10 GMT
#7134
My mobo is ga-b75m-d3h

I'm not sure whether the sata 3 port is the one on top, or the one below... Anyone can help?

http://ee.gigabyte.com/products/page/mb/ga-b75m-d3hrev_10

On this website, you have a zoom that should help you understand my problem
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 18 2013 02:12 GMT
#7135
It's the bottom one
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 02:36:31
July 18 2013 02:25 GMT
#7136
On July 18 2013 11:12 skyR wrote:
It's the bottom one


Thank you Skyr, as always, you are very useful

Also, what to do if the mobo has only 1 "fan" plug? The case I purchased for my friend has more than 1 fan
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 18 2013 02:42 GMT
#7137
Use a splitter or molex adapter.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
July 18 2013 03:16 GMT
#7138
For some reason I can't connect to IRC. It started happening yesterday and it just says "can't connect to remote server" and thats it. It loads the first 3 lines of IRC and thats it.

The problem could have started earlier but i went camping for the weekend and when i came back i logged onto IRC once and ever since then from my home internet i can't connect.

HELP!!! thx
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17246 Posts
July 18 2013 22:28 GMT
#7139
On July 18 2013 08:52 Craton wrote:
A friend of mine's PC stopped working a few days ago. It wouldn't power up and only a light on the mobo would turn on. He replaced the motherboard and borrowed one of my PSUs (that definitely works), but he's still getting the same issue.

The only thing I can come up with is some kind of a short in one of the components that are plugged in or the chassis itself. Any ideas?

Optical drive was the culprit. I'm thinking some kind of short.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 18 2013 22:46 GMT
#7140
How does overclocking work on laptops? Is it turned on automatically? Are the laptops designed handling the extra heat from overclocking (specifically, the Lenovo U430 that's going to be coming out this summer)?
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