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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 15:02:00
June 24 2013 14:56 GMT
#6901
On June 24 2013 22:56 iaretehnoob wrote:
Currently looking for a new laptop. I assume waiting a bit until more Haswell models come out, makes a lot more sense than buying Ivy Bridge now? Or should I expect to pay a lot more for Haswell for the next 2-3 months? At least here in Germany there aren't too many models with 15" FHD screens and Haswell available yet. I was looking at the Lenovo Y510p, but only the high-end SLI configuration is being sold here so far.

I also could use opinions on some brands. Lenovo from my experience still seems okay, even for non-thinkpads, Dell appears to be overpriced. Acer and MSI have some offers that look pretty good, but I guess their buld quality suffers for it. How would ASUS or HP compare to Lenovo for example?

It's hard to say how long you'd be waiting on Haswell models. What performance tier are you looking at for the graphics? What considerations about trackpad and keyboard? Glossy or matte screen? Budget?

Actually, in the US Dell pricing on consumer, non-Alienware laptops with 1080p was pretty good, at least in the past. Say, the Inspiron SE models? I don't really know.

I'd check models more so than the brands (notebookcheck etc.), but yeah, many of the MSI gaming laptops aren't built that well and have insufficient cooling. I mean, even Acer has nice high-end stuff these days. The Asus ROG laptops should usually be good, but those are quite expensive. I don't know about the others. Check individual reviews.


On June 24 2013 23:48 Terant wrote:
Between Samsung 840 120GB and OCZ vertex 3 and OCZ vertex 4 both 128GB, which would you recommend?

Equal price?

Not Vertex 3, though these days, they're probably okay. People were wary about Vertex 4 because... well... OCZ (and their reputation for validation problems, especially with SandForce-based drives like Vertex 3), but Vertex 4 was on an Indilinx controller. But I think that turned out okay.

Samsung 840 is probably a safe bet. If it's cheaper, which it usually is, I'd just go for that. Even if they're all the same price, I'd be inclined towards that, unless maybe you're interested in higher sequential write for some specific use case.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
June 24 2013 14:58 GMT
#6902
840
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Terant
Profile Joined September 2010
Malta60 Posts
June 24 2013 15:35 GMT
#6903
Basically they are all within 105-110€, so pretty much equal.
Thx a lot for your input ^^
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
June 24 2013 17:25 GMT
#6904
On June 24 2013 23:56 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 22:56 iaretehnoob wrote:
Currently looking for a new laptop. I assume waiting a bit until more Haswell models come out, makes a lot more sense than buying Ivy Bridge now? Or should I expect to pay a lot more for Haswell for the next 2-3 months? At least here in Germany there aren't too many models with 15" FHD screens and Haswell available yet. I was looking at the Lenovo Y510p, but only the high-end SLI configuration is being sold here so far.

I also could use opinions on some brands. Lenovo from my experience still seems okay, even for non-thinkpads, Dell appears to be overpriced. Acer and MSI have some offers that look pretty good, but I guess their buld quality suffers for it. How would ASUS or HP compare to Lenovo for example?

It's hard to say how long you'd be waiting on Haswell models. What performance tier are you looking at for the graphics? What considerations about trackpad and keyboard? Glossy or matte screen? Budget?

Looking at something upper mid-range for the graphics, like a GTX 660M or 750M. Mainly to be able to do some graphics development, gaming will only be an added benefit :p trackpad and keyboard aren't that important, as long as they're not absolutely terrible. Matte screen would be nice, but definitely not a priority. <800€ would be perfect, but I could afford a bit more if I have to.

Actually, in the US Dell pricing on consumer, non-Alienware laptops with 1080p was pretty good, at least in the past. Say, the Inspiron SE models? I don't really know.

US Store: 849$
German Store: 779€ -> 1020$
For the same Inspiron SE model. But yeah, still worth checking from time to time, at least combined with some coupon codes.


I'd check models more so than the brands (notebookcheck etc.), but yeah, many of the MSI gaming laptops aren't built that well and have insufficient cooling. I mean, even Acer has nice high-end stuff these days. The Asus ROG laptops should usually be good, but those are quite expensive. I don't know about the others. Check individual reviews.

Good point about the individual reviews, instead of generalizing by brand.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 24 2013 17:45 GMT
#6905
On June 25 2013 02:25 iaretehnoob wrote:
US Store: 849$
German Store: 779€ -> 1020$
For the same Inspiron SE model. But yeah, still worth checking from time to time, at least combined with some coupon codes.

US price is without tax. If you add German tax: $849 * 1.19 = $1010.31
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
June 25 2013 22:08 GMT
#6906
My gtx260 seems to be bugged (this has persisted across new CPU+mobo+RAM and across windows installations and driver versions) and seems to read temperature wrong. I don't think it's actually getting hot/drawing power, it just sometimes reads ridiculous idle temps, usually 70c, but this results in fan spinning up to full (which wakes people up in the house across rooms) when light load is applied and temp rises 15-20c, i have to restart to fix it, where the idle temp drops back down to 40 or so (it's not the best cooler)

Anyone heard of these issues before? What should i do to troubleshoot it etc. My windforce 770 should be arriving on thursday morning which shall "fix" the problem i'd imagine, but i am a little concerned because it seems to be an issue specific to the GPU, unless i missed something. I put it down to OS, drivers, mobo (i hadn't reinstalled windows in 2 years and an odd problem occasionally didn't seem like a big deal) but like i said i replaced all of them, and the issue is still there occasionally
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 25 2013 22:11 GMT
#6907
How about a bios flash on the GPU?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
June 25 2013 22:13 GMT
#6908
Didn't think of that, ty
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 22:15:02
June 25 2013 22:14 GMT
#6909
EDIT: nvmd
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
June 25 2013 22:17 GMT
#6910
Also: A little while ago (a month?) my HDD showed a bunch of reallocated sectors in crystaldiskinfo and windows popped up a warning a bunch of times, i left it to see if more would pop up or if there were other problems, it's making a ton of clicking noises now. How long does it have?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 25 2013 22:24 GMT
#6911
Aren't HDDs notoriously difficult to predict on the scale of how many days? Clicking certainly seems like a short remaining lifespan. I would definitely back up its contents and look to replace/RMA it right away.
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KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
June 26 2013 09:43 GMT
#6912
hiho, looking at SSD atm to put windows and my games in (wow sc2 d3) but i dont know how big windows 64bit is? will a 120ssd suffice?
Jurg Jurg Jurg
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 09:57:29
June 26 2013 09:56 GMT
#6913
well if the clicking noise gets more noticeable it can happen any time, had my fair share of that...btw does anyone here have a ga z77x d3h and has some info on how to turn off the mouse light / keyboard light when pc is shut down? i tried several bios and the so called "ErP" setting in bios which should prevent that but nothing fixes that, its kinda annoying when u want to sleep and there is some freaking razer symbol from the mouse shining on the wall -_-

yea 120ssd will suffice, i can put like system + 3-5 games on it depending the size ofc. (and a lot of games are not even worth putting on an ssd like LoL ...u r waiting for others to load anyway so its not worth wasting the space)
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 26 2013 09:59 GMT
#6914
My C: drive uses 43 GB, all very large things like games are separate, so that's just Windows + programs + documents. Windows folder alone is 20 GB. I don't know how big WoW and D3 are. I'm guessing everything will fit.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
June 26 2013 10:07 GMT
#6915
thanks!! no point in getting 250GB ssd then since i only play sc2 wow d3 tibia csgo :S (tibia csgo barely noticed so small games t.t)
Jurg Jurg Jurg
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2013 12:24 GMT
#6916
On June 26 2013 19:07 KapsyL wrote:
thanks!! no point in getting 250GB ssd then since i only play sc2 wow d3 tibia csgo :S (tibia csgo barely noticed so small games t.t)


That list will bring you down to 10-30gb so if you think that is sufficient then a 120gb SSD will be okay.

Windows ~20gb, will grow with updates
Starcraft II, expected to be ~20gb with LotV
Diablo III, ~10gb
World of Warcraft, ~25gb possibly more with add-ons
Counterstrike: Global Offensive, ~5gb

If the following is not disabled then:
Hibernation ~8gb
Pagefile ~1-4gb
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
June 26 2013 12:57 GMT
#6917
damnit. oh well you persuaded me. will save money for 250gb then, you never know if i find more fun games in the future D:
Jurg Jurg Jurg
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 20:16:42
June 26 2013 20:13 GMT
#6918
Ok. Another question, I am looking to use my old HDD which already have windows 7 (which is what i want to use for my new computer). Am i able to just swap over the HDD and everything will kick in on the new pc, or do i need to do something special first?
I hear i need a new windows but i dont know anything about it (and i dont have a disc:/)
Jurg Jurg Jurg
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2013 20:23 GMT
#6919
Yes you can do that but a fresh installation is recommended. And you're getting a SSD so you should want Windows on that instead of the older slower HDD. You can just burn a Windows disc (your activation key will still work) unless you don't have that option available to you either.
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
June 26 2013 20:55 GMT
#6920
I dont have the SSD now. Im gonna stick to HDD until later and its not super old i think(bought 2 years ago?)
plus theres a money issue due to rent being a bitch this month for whatever reason so i have to use my old HDD from this pc
I dont know anyone who has a windows disc to burn.. Is there a way to do it with like a USB stick?

PS I found my product key on the PC.

If you need to know my current harddrive, i have a HP h8 1120SC.
Jurg Jurg Jurg
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