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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 11 2013 19:10 GMT
#6521
Both i5 and i7 have four cores, and those cores have similar performance. The i7 has "hyperthreading" (HT) which turns one core into two virtual cores. This works well to increase performance of video encoding and 3D rendering. It's up to 20 % performance increase for this. In most tasks, including games, you will see absolutely no difference between i5 and i7. The added $100 for the i7 is thus pretty much a waste.

If you don't overclock, there are Xeon CPUs for the same socket as i5 and i7. Those Xeon CPUs have the same price as an i5, but have that hyperthreading the i7 has. The Xeons are missing the integrated graphics. The 3570k you are thinking of will beat it handily in any task you look at as you can overclock the 3570k.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 19:12:43
May 11 2013 19:11 GMT
#6522
Compared to desktop i5, desktop i7 has:
  • Hyperthreading, which allows for somewhat greater CPU utilization when all four cores are already busy yet more work needs to be done (almost never happens for any game; possibly of benefit when streaming if your settings push the system to the very cusp of maxing out the CPU, which is not common)
  • 2 MB more L3 cache (from 6 MB), meaning slightly higher performance in some situations because data or instructions might be in cache and thus the processor isn't stuck waiting on something to be fetched from RAM
  • slightly higher default clock speed, which is irrelevant if overclocking

Other than that, it's the same, except more expensive.

New generation should be available in less than a month. A different design means better performance. It's unknown how much better these will overclock than the current processors (or possibly worse), but overclocking on any of these modern systems is pretty easy—too easy, according to many computer enthusiasts, who would reminisce on years past.

edit: as noted above, unless you're using the computer for some other heavy work, you probably want an i5, unless the ~$100 difference in price for pretty much no benefit sounds like no problem to you.
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
May 11 2013 21:45 GMT
#6523
If I've removed my graphics card (Radeon HD 6950) to temporarily use on board graphics instead, do I need to uninstall the AMD graphics drivers?
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#6524
You don't need to do anything. You can have multiple drivers installed at the same time. You can also try to skip manually downloading drivers for the onboard graphics. Windows will automatically get a reasonably current AMD, NVidia or Intel driver through Windows Update.

You can actually enable onboard graphics in the BIOS even with a graphics card installed. You will then be able to use both at the same time. Windows will use the hardware where the monitor is plugged in.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 16:52:42
May 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#6525
Is there a way to search for specific words inside office 2013 word documents (on windows 8)? I have a folder with hundreds of word documents and I'd like to find a specific word inside one of them without having to open them all. When I had the previous office version in windows 7 I seem to remember you could just use the regular windows search function but now it would seem it can only identify the words in the titles of the documents. I'm not sure if this is a windows 8 thing, new office "feature" or just something I'm missing. I've tried both the metro search function and the regular search from desktop.

edit: Nvm, it was a windows setting. Apparently you have to tell it to search inside documents,
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 12 2013 17:02 GMT
#6526
Yeah, that's what you had to do in previous versions of windows, too. It was a checkbox.
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Scones
Profile Joined June 2012
Wales99 Posts
May 13 2013 03:23 GMT
#6527
I have chosen my gaming PC fully except for the motherboard. My two choices are Asus P8B75-M LX or Asus P8Z77-V LX for an extra £50. What is the difference, and would it be wise to invest the extra £50? I don't have any idea what they mean
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 13 2013 03:34 GMT
#6528
The first one can't OC.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
May 13 2013 03:39 GMT
#6529
The p8z77v-lx is awful for overclocking too.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Scones
Profile Joined June 2012
Wales99 Posts
May 13 2013 03:40 GMT
#6530
Fair enough, but why is the Asus P8Z77-V LX more expensive? What is the difference? Purely the overclocking?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 13 2013 03:42 GMT
#6531
There's so many aspects to motherboards that it's hard to enumerate all the little differences between any two. The biggest thing is definitely the chipset, which involves things like overclocking, but there's also things like UEFI features and voltage regulation.
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xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 03:55:40
May 13 2013 03:54 GMT
#6532
Hey guys I have a quick question. I am looking for a gaming laptop with a budget of around 1k USD. I just don't know good websites to look for, or any good suggestions you guys have for that price range. I am looking for one in between 15 and 17 inches .
I am looking to be able to play all current games, obviously I don't expect ultra settings on everything, but something, that will be able to handle games for a few more years.
Thanks
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 13 2013 04:04 GMT
#6533
Just confirming a few things...

1. It needs to be a laptop, right?
2. What else would you use it for?
3. Would you be using its screen? Do you have another?
4. Would you be using its keyboard?
5. Are weight, noise, general build quality, etc. any concerns?
6. You're buying online? Or where? In USD, shipped to a US address?
xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
May 13 2013 04:08 GMT
#6534
1. Yes it does needs to be a laptop.
2. Other than gaming, normal use (web-browsing, school work) , nothing like editing or rendering or anything like that.
3. I would be using it's screen
4. I would be using its keyboard
5. Build quality is important, however weight or noise isn't too important.
6. I will be buying online moost likely. I live in the US yes.

Ty for the quick reply !
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 13 2013 04:27 GMT
#6535
Here's a good place to camp out, though not the only one:
http://www.logicbuy.com/categorydeals/computers/laptops

A lot of times you can just look around for coupons or check general sites like Newegg, Amazon, etc. Or manufacturer websites.
e.g. Lenovo Y500 at Lenovo site ($850 i7-3630QM, ~GTX 660M rebrand, 1080p screen)

It's pretty much impossible to find anything with the next tier of GPUs under $1000 without a great sale. That'd be something higher than GTX 660M (GTX 750M) and HD 7770M (8790M or so).

Haswell drops in a few weeks, but new laptops probably won't be cheap. There shouldn't be more than a say ~10-15% (accounting for a small clock speed bump) max difference in most tasks compared to what's currently available. Most games other than SC2 won't really appreciate that difference.
Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
May 13 2013 10:58 GMT
#6536
Do I need to reinstall my OS when changing mainboard and CPU?
...
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 13 2013 12:01 GMT
#6537
Just try it. I had a Windows 8 installation even live through moving from an ancient AMD Athlon 64 X2 to a current Intel system. I think it automatically repeated a part of the Windows setup and was working fine afterwards.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 13 2013 13:49 GMT
#6538
On May 13 2013 19:58 Flaiker wrote:
Do I need to reinstall my OS when changing mainboard and CPU?

No, you can just update the drivers. People usually decide to do a clean install when doing this because it gives you an excuse to clean up your PC.
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Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
May 13 2013 13:56 GMT
#6539
On May 13 2013 22:49 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 19:58 Flaiker wrote:
Do I need to reinstall my OS when changing mainboard and CPU?

No, you can just update the drivers. People usually decide to do a clean install when doing this because it gives you an excuse to clean up your PC.

My Install is pretty fresh. Install the drivers beforehand?
...
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
May 13 2013 14:53 GMT
#6540
I have a Tt esports meka g1, around a year and a half old. The 3 key at the top of my keyboard has completely stopped working and the p key doesn't work half the time. I'm wondering if this is fixable and if so, how to fix? Thanks for any help
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