EPTGateway FX Computer Won't Start?
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
Verify that the power supply voltage switch is set correctly. If you accidentally changed it while picking up the computer and moving it, it's possible the computer wouldn't turn on at all. (on the back of your computer) Check that your power supply is working. Although if it went out, you should have heard/smelled it when it failed. It's possible that the wiring from the power button to your motherboard was loosened, check that. Lastly, it could be motherboard failure. Not sure the best way to 'test' a working motherboard if you don't have spare parts laying around. This of course assuming that you didn't have it plugged in to a power strip or something that was accidental turned off or something along those lines. | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
fuse looks fine and i didn't smell anything so that doesn't seem to be the problem checked that even got a can of air and made sure there wasn't any dust or anything in the connections i don't think it would be a motherboard failure because all i did was move it to another room and back, it was perfectly fine before that | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Anyway, go through this below. Good luck. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/What-to-Do-If-Your-Computer-Doesnt-Turn-On/547 | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If it still doesn't work, it's probably the motherboard then. What are your comp specs? It might be worth just getting a new system (well, new CPU and maybe RAM) if you already have to get a new motherboard. For that matter, how much did you pay for the GS700? Corsair GS is usually a little overpriced compared to its real value, not to mention that you don't need a 700W supply unless you're running two mid-high-end graphics cards. | ||
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:03 ZenGraffix wrote: Power supply likely died. I have seen instances where I left my comp in my card and it was really cold. It wouldnt turn on for 40+ minutes till it warmed up. Odd I know He just said a few posts up that he got a new PSU and it didn't solve the issue. Edit - With all the current info, it sounds like a mobo issue but it's also possible, since this only happened after moving it, something got disconnected or became loose. Quite the coincidence that you mobo (or anything really) would break in the short time and distance the computer was moved. | ||
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:11 ZenGraffix wrote: Thanks Charger, just being lazy. It can only be so many thing. IMO Likely an issue with the connection of the on off switch. Is the 4 pin 95w plugged in to the mobo ? Take a picture and how us ! Happens to me all the time, wasn't trying to be harsh or mean. :p | ||
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
Another possibility is that the mobo isnt grounded properly or one of the plastic connectors inside the plug has become misaligned and isnt getting good contact to the pin | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
and what i've heard on other forums is that gateway tends to have bad power sources and when they go they can take the motherboard with them, so it seems like i have to pick up a new one any suggestions? this is my computer http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668774.php except i have the corsair 700W and an nvidia GTX 465 | ||
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
Have you tried to move the machine back to the same power outlet ? Does the power supply cable have a ground plug? Is the outlet bad ? I know some of these seems obvious but if you havnt checked each atleast 20 times you havent done your part. Either way check it again. What else changed ? If you cant get the case fans powered up It and have bought a new PS its an issue with turning it on, do you have a manual to the machine ? or to the motherboard? The main power plug on the motherboard, the long whiteone. Smell that portion of the board, does it smell like smoke or is their any type of black marks ? If not even its its damaged you should be able to get a case fan working. | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
are you familiar with where the power plug connecter plugs in to the mother board ? If there is something gateway skimps on. the power button is right up there. | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
read my last couple posts to get caught up ty for the reply tho | ||
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
FInd these plugs inside the machine and lets talk about where they go and where they are connected. In a prior post you said you plugged the PS in to another machine and it worked. Thats a good sign, Plugs! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
It seems like a shame, but I guess you'll have to try another motherboard. i7-860 isn't worth upgrading, for sure. Did you try taking the system out of the case, as I suggested? | ||
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
260w for the video card under full load, 125w for the Cpu, 70w for the board, we havnt counted ram, usb devices, harddrives, optical drives. A minimum of 600 watts is where you want to be considering the degredation of the transitors can be in excess of 30% in the first year alone.. an issue with how the power button is connected to the motherboard, or a grounding issue. It seems pretty straight forward if you ask me. | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
and there are no hanging cords that arn't plugged in anywhere and i've made sure they're all in good so ya, should be good the psu that came with the computer had a very low 12V capacity, when i went to pick up a new one the guy was suprised my computer lasted as long as it did and ill try taking teh system out of the case now to see how it goes but i don't have a lot of faith in it working but ive got to do it to put a new one in anyways so might as well try | ||
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
Good luck, | ||
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ZenGraffix
United States96 Posts
best wishes, | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 16 2011 14:05 ZenGraffix wrote: Honestly I dont know where you getting your numbers, 260w for the video card under full load, 125w for the Cpu, 70w for the board, we havnt counted ram, usb devices, harddrives, optical drives. A minimum of 600 watts is where you want to be considering the degredation of the transitors can be in excess of 30% in the first year alone.. an issue with how the power button is connected to the motherboard, or a grounding issue. It seems pretty straight forward if you ask me. How do you get 125W power draw (stock) out of a CPU listed by Intel for only needing a TDP of 95W? Also, what kind of LGA 1156 motherboard takes 70W? Here are some system power consumption (AC, so you need to factor in power supply efficiency) figures for a i7-860 system. Note that it includes a HD 5870 at idle, a hard drive, RAM, the motherboard, and everything else. It's 171W AC measured under LinX for all of those components from an 880W 80+ Bronze PSU, so probably around 140-145W DC drawn from the power supply. So 125W from the CPU, 70W from the board, and negative wattage from the RAM, hard drives, optical drives, fans...? http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/power-consumption-overclocking_15.html#sect1 Power supply transistors degrading 30%? Source? It's usually the capacitors (well, the power supply fan really) that have issues before anything else, on a decent power supply. But 30% after a year is ridiculous. | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
going to need a new motherboard probably just pick up another i7-860 to avoid any compatability issues or anything like that so when i get this new motherboard and set it all up will it be ready to play? or will i have to do a bunch of set up to get it to the point that it will work? | ||
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Syben
United States512 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Why would you get another CPU? If you were buying another CPU, you should upgrade to a newer one (Core i5-2x00) that's cheaper and has better performance. Are the parts not under warranty? Assuming you can't go that route and that the motherboard is defective, you're looking at something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157190 Note that if you got an OEM copy of Windows, it's tied to the motherboard it was installed on. Different motherboards will have different chips onboard like for audio and for Ethernet. So you would need different drivers. Best practice when switching motherboards is to reinstall the OS, but that's not always necessary. You can try looking up doing repair installs, or just removing/getting drivers. Using a different i7-8xx won't help as the original one would be no problem. Also keep in mind that you would need to remove residual thermal paste from the CPU heatsink and apply a little bit of new thermal paste when installing it onto the new motherboard. If you don't already have thermal paste and would need to buy it as well, it might be worth just getting a $20 cooler to use instead of the stock one (they come with thermal paste). It would be quieter and cool the CPU better anyway: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064 | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
no beeps no lights no anything so i need to go buy a new motherboard, either some thermal paste or just a new cooler then install drivers and possibly the os? that doens't sound so bad | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX32728(ME).aspx | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
any suggestions? | ||
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Zabombafor
Canada17 Posts
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX25459(ME).aspx | ||
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