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ZenGraffix
Profile Joined April 2011
United States96 Posts
May 16 2011 05:18 GMT
#21
Its not always an easy fix, I hope you get it taken care of.

Good luck,
Time is the fire in which we all burn
ZenGraffix
Profile Joined April 2011
United States96 Posts
May 16 2011 05:22 GMT
#22
that model of computer was released in sept of last year. The motherboard should still be under warranty. You might consider exploring that avenue before going for the hail merry play.

best wishes,
Time is the fire in which we all burn
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 16 2011 05:40 GMT
#23
On May 16 2011 14:05 ZenGraffix wrote:
Honestly I dont know where you getting your numbers,

260w for the video card under full load,
125w for the Cpu,
70w for the board,

we havnt counted ram, usb devices, harddrives, optical drives.

A minimum of 600 watts is where you want to be considering the degredation of the transitors can be in excess of 30% in the first year alone..

an issue with how the power button is connected to the motherboard, or a grounding issue. It seems pretty straight forward if you ask me.


How do you get 125W power draw (stock) out of a CPU listed by Intel for only needing a TDP of 95W? Also, what kind of LGA 1156 motherboard takes 70W?

Here are some system power consumption (AC, so you need to factor in power supply efficiency) figures for a i7-860 system. Note that it includes a HD 5870 at idle, a hard drive, RAM, the motherboard, and everything else. It's 171W AC measured under LinX for all of those components from an 880W 80+ Bronze PSU, so probably around 140-145W DC drawn from the power supply. So 125W from the CPU, 70W from the board, and negative wattage from the RAM, hard drives, optical drives, fans...?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/power-consumption-overclocking_15.html#sect1

Power supply transistors degrading 30%? Source? It's usually the capacitors (well, the power supply fan really) that have issues before anything else, on a decent power supply. But 30% after a year is ridiculous.
Zabombafor
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada17 Posts
May 16 2011 05:41 GMT
#24
took it all out and still nothing
going to need a new motherboard
probably just pick up another i7-860 to avoid any compatability issues or anything like that
so when i get this new motherboard and set it all up will it be ready to play? or will i have to do a bunch of set up to get it to the point that it will work?
Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
May 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#25
Are you able to take a picture of the inside of your case? Id like to take a look at the wiring. When you turn it on are you getting an leds on the MB lit up? (i.e standby lights ect). Are you hearing any beeps from the MB? if the board is working at all and is hooked up to the PSU you should hear something. If your not hearing anything take out all but 1 stick of RAM and put it in the first slot. Also if that doesnt work take out all your ram and you should hear beeps telling you no ram is detected. If that doesnt work you most likely have a dead motherboard.
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 06:35:07
May 16 2011 06:33 GMT
#26
edit: I'd make sure the motherboard isn't working for sure before buying anything else though, yes. No beep codes, fan spinning, or any sign of life at all? You tried turning the motherboard on by shorting the motherboard header power on signal with a screwdriver? The below is assuming the motherboard is dead.

Why would you get another CPU? If you were buying another CPU, you should upgrade to a newer one (Core i5-2x00) that's cheaper and has better performance.

Are the parts not under warranty? Assuming you can't go that route and that the motherboard is defective, you're looking at something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157190

Note that if you got an OEM copy of Windows, it's tied to the motherboard it was installed on. Different motherboards will have different chips onboard like for audio and for Ethernet. So you would need different drivers. Best practice when switching motherboards is to reinstall the OS, but that's not always necessary. You can try looking up doing repair installs, or just removing/getting drivers. Using a different i7-8xx won't help as the original one would be no problem.

Also keep in mind that you would need to remove residual thermal paste from the CPU heatsink and apply a little bit of new thermal paste when installing it onto the new motherboard. If you don't already have thermal paste and would need to buy it as well, it might be worth just getting a $20 cooler to use instead of the stock one (they come with thermal paste). It would be quieter and cool the CPU better anyway:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064
Zabombafor
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada17 Posts
May 16 2011 06:52 GMT
#27
ya the motherboard is definatly dead
no beeps no lights no anything

so i need to go buy a new motherboard, either some thermal paste or just a new cooler
then install drivers and possibly the os?
that doens't sound so bad
Zabombafor
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada17 Posts
May 16 2011 19:23 GMT
#28
hows this for a new motherboard?
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX32728(ME).aspx
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 16 2011 20:27 GMT
#29
LGA 1156 is not LGA 1155 and they're not compatible. That's a LGA 1155 motherboard. Core i3-5xx, i5-6xx, i5-7xx, and i7-8xx use the older LGA 1156. Core i3-2xxx, i5-2xxx, and i7-26xx are the current generation and use LGA 1155.
Zabombafor
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada17 Posts
May 16 2011 21:36 GMT
#30
ok so i need to find a motherboard that is LGA 1156?
any suggestions?
Zabombafor
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada17 Posts
May 16 2011 21:44 GMT
#31
ok so how about this one?
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX25459(ME).aspx
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