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On March 12 2011 17:35 Hectic wrote: 1. laptops are not powerful enough 2. laptops are expensive 3. laptops have small screens 4. laptops keyboards are crap 5. laptops never have enough USB ports 6. laptops are more difficult to repair if they break 7. laptops do not allow you to customise your hardware and upgrade 8. laptops get hot and are not good for overclocking 9. laptops are a pain to set up and move around 10. the enthusiast PC parts market should be supported to help keep pushing PC technology at the cutting edge.
that took me about 1 minute 30 seconds
seriously though if you need one so you have a computer to work on at university then i guess you dont have a choice.
If i HAD to buy a laptop for travelling and i was trying to save money, i would get a piece of shit one for cheap, and then build a cheap desktop PC for home which would be twice as powerful as the most expensive gaming laptop. This. Hands down. Buy a $800 epic gaming rig, spend 300 or 400 on a good netbook or decent laptop on sale. You now have the best of both worlds.
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On March 12 2011 19:13 Mazer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 17:35 Hectic wrote: 1. laptops are not powerful enough 2. laptops are expensive 3. laptops have small screens 4. laptops keyboards are crap 5. laptops never have enough USB ports 6. laptops are more difficult to repair if they break 7. laptops do not allow you to customise your hardware and upgrade 8. laptops get hot and are not good for overclocking 9. laptops are a pain to set up and move around 10. the enthusiast PC parts market should be supported to help keep pushing PC technology at the cutting edge.
that took me about 1 minute 30 seconds
seriously though if you need one so you have a computer to work on at university then i guess you dont have a choice.
If i HAD to buy a laptop for travelling and i was trying to save money, i would get a piece of shit one for cheap, and then build a cheap desktop PC for home which would be twice as powerful as the most expensive gaming laptop. 1. If you want performance first and foremost, you'd be silly to buy a laptop. You can pony up and pay for the performance if you really need it though. 2. Obviously going to be more expensive than a PC equivalent but it comes with features that aren't possible with a desktop. 3. I guess people are used to using 19"+ monitors now. I was as well but I've gotten used to my 14" screen. I specifically went for one this size. Again though, if you're going for portability, even if there was a chance of getting a 22" laptop, that would be really silly. 4. My Dell Vostro keyboard is actually really nice to type on imo. I have however had two keys come off (one the cap broke and the second the clip broke) but I had Dell send me a complete keyboard replacement so I guess it isn't that great. 5. Mine has three USB ports, I usually use one for my mouse. Sometimes the 2nd and 3rd for iPods/USB but it's never been a problem. I guess some people could need 4+ at once though. 6. I suppose so, but there are decent warranties out there and it's definitely a lot easier to send a laptop back. 7. I had a pretty good set of customization options through the Dell site (CPU, RAM, OS, discrete GPU option, backlit keyboard, etc.). There are obvious limitations though and a lot of the best laptop deals are always pre-configured set-ups. 8. Again, someone buying a laptop probably isn't going strictly for performance so I'm not sure why OC capabilities should be a primary concern. 9. You're saying laptops are less portable and harder to set up than a desktop? Does that even make sense? 10. Ok, you're really grasping here. I got a Dell Vostro 3400 ~6 months ago and have hardly touched my more powerful desktop since. I don't mind playing SC2 at low-medium settings though and all the other games I play are pretty low demand so it works for me. Seriously, being able to load up an SC2 replay in between study/programming spurts at the library is pretty awesome. Surfing TL and watching BW in bed is amazing too. OP, you really can't go wrong with an ASUS. I personally wouldn't get such a beastly laptop since I would go for portability and battery life but if you really think you need those specs, go for it. Maybe find a slightly better deal though. It feels like that price is the same as it was for similar laptops that I was looking at 6 months ago. I'd imagine it should be a little cheaper now. hey what were the specs for the laptop taht you got? like parts of the vostro did you actually get?
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On March 14 2011 14:44 Phayze wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 17:35 Hectic wrote: 1. laptops are not powerful enough 2. laptops are expensive 3. laptops have small screens 4. laptops keyboards are crap 5. laptops never have enough USB ports 6. laptops are more difficult to repair if they break 7. laptops do not allow you to customise your hardware and upgrade 8. laptops get hot and are not good for overclocking 9. laptops are a pain to set up and move around 10. the enthusiast PC parts market should be supported to help keep pushing PC technology at the cutting edge.
that took me about 1 minute 30 seconds
seriously though if you need one so you have a computer to work on at university then i guess you dont have a choice.
If i HAD to buy a laptop for travelling and i was trying to save money, i would get a piece of shit one for cheap, and then build a cheap desktop PC for home which would be twice as powerful as the most expensive gaming laptop. This. Hands down. Buy a $800 epic gaming rig, spend 300 or 400 on a good netbook or decent laptop on sale. You now have the best of both worlds. I've been dealing with this question. I'm thinking of doing as you suggest, but since this would be my first computer (not shared), I'd have to also buy a monitor, Keyboard, speakers (actually just thinking of buying a nice pair of headphones, need one anyway), cheap laptop, and mouse, which drives the price up considerably considering I'd want a mechanical keyboard and halfway decent mouse, not to mention that a decent monitor costs some 200 bucks. I've been wondering if, since I'd have to buy all that shit compared to just a laptop+mouse, it'd still be cheaper to go desktop (ignoring inferiorities of a laptop aside)
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Bisutopia19050 Posts
Honestly, I make video games for a living and am an avid gamer. Don't waste money on your laptop. Just get a nice cheap one that does everything needed besides gaming and invest in a desktop.
Also go to http://www.newegg.com and build your new computer there. For a 1000 dollars you can have a sick graphics card, processor, a 27" hd screen, and w/e else you want easily. Then buy a 200$ laptop and your all set.
I'm sure you have thought this over and probably aren't looking for people to tell you to buy a desktop so my final advice is at least invest in the laptop recommended on the first page for 800$. It's the same deal better buy.
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laptops are the biggest wastes of money, you don't need one if you're going to university unless you like lying to yourself. Desktops are MUCH better and more versatile in the sense that you can upgrade/repair/replace things cheap and easy
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As far as HP goes, mine is being sent back for replacement because the steel frame inside the screen has snapped in 2 and the screen has fallen apart.
Good quality!
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On March 14 2011 19:14 Zerokaiser wrote: As far as HP goes, mine is being sent back for replacement because the steel frame inside the screen has snapped in 2 and the screen has fallen apart.
Good quality!
On topic related to quality, I hear dell (more specifically their alienware series) has an issue with hinges breaking ala a nintendo DS. Has anyone known anyone who experienced this?
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Cheap laptop + gaming desktop for the same money as your gaming laptop.
You get a more portable laptop and a better gaming platform. Clearly superior to a compromise.
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Germany2896 Posts
Why do people need to argue for the superiority of Desktops in every damn Laptop thread? Just because it's good for your usage pattern doesn't mean it's good for everyone. I for one think that switching between laptop and desktop all the time, synchronizing your data and installed software... is highly annoying.
On March 14 2011 18:05 Teivospy wrote: laptops are the biggest wastes of money, you don't need one if you're going to university unless you like lying to yourself. So you know what everybody needs better then them and assume that they are lying to themselves if they think that a laptop is more useful for them than a desktop. Don't you think that's slighly arrogant?
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On March 15 2011 01:07 MasterOfChaos wrote:Why do people need to argue for the superiority of Desktops in every damn Laptop thread? Just because it's good for your usage pattern doesn't mean it's good for everyone. I for one think that switching between laptop and desktop all the time, synchronizing your data and installed software... is highly annoying. Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 18:05 Teivospy wrote: laptops are the biggest wastes of money, you don't need one if you're going to university unless you like lying to yourself. So you know what everybody needs better then them and assume that they are lying to themselves if they think that a laptop is more useful for them than a desktop. Don't you think that's slighly arrogant?
I would have to say that people assuming they need a lap top for college is a bit silly.
I can say this, because I got one for college, and it RARELY left my desk in my apartment. I bought a $2,000 Alienware in 2005, and by 2008 it was unusable due to over heating and I couldn't upgrade anything.
I THOUGHT I would need a lap top to take to class / library / friends houses... but when your laptop is 2 inches thick and could kill a small child if dropped, it's not worth the trouble to move it. It was too big and bulky to quickly pack it up and take it to a friends house or to take it home.
Honestly, the only advantage of having a lap top vs having a desktop in a small-medium case is that you don't have to pack up a monitor. I bought the desk top that I am currently using in September of last year, and I have moved it more than I moved my Alienware laptop.
Just sayin'
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Yea, it's pretty ridic that this has become an argument about desktops vs laptops when the OP is seeking advice for while laptop to get. I got a decent desktop when I started engineering and immediately wished I had just gotten a laptop. I've since switched to programming and gotten a laptop and it's really apparent how convenient it is to have all my shit with me in class or at the library every day. Buying a $2,000 behemoth and having a bad experience with it really doesn't warrant you telling people to buy a desktop instead.
On March 14 2011 14:59 pigtheman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 19:13 Mazer wrote:On March 12 2011 17:35 Hectic wrote: 1. laptops are not powerful enough 2. laptops are expensive 3. laptops have small screens 4. laptops keyboards are crap 5. laptops never have enough USB ports 6. laptops are more difficult to repair if they break 7. laptops do not allow you to customise your hardware and upgrade 8. laptops get hot and are not good for overclocking 9. laptops are a pain to set up and move around 10. the enthusiast PC parts market should be supported to help keep pushing PC technology at the cutting edge.
that took me about 1 minute 30 seconds
seriously though if you need one so you have a computer to work on at university then i guess you dont have a choice.
If i HAD to buy a laptop for travelling and i was trying to save money, i would get a piece of shit one for cheap, and then build a cheap desktop PC for home which would be twice as powerful as the most expensive gaming laptop. 1. If you want performance first and foremost, you'd be silly to buy a laptop. You can pony up and pay for the performance if you really need it though. 2. Obviously going to be more expensive than a PC equivalent but it comes with features that aren't possible with a desktop. 3. I guess people are used to using 19"+ monitors now. I was as well but I've gotten used to my 14" screen. I specifically went for one this size. Again though, if you're going for portability, even if there was a chance of getting a 22" laptop, that would be really silly. 4. My Dell Vostro keyboard is actually really nice to type on imo. I have however had two keys come off (one the cap broke and the second the clip broke) but I had Dell send me a complete keyboard replacement so I guess it isn't that great. 5. Mine has three USB ports, I usually use one for my mouse. Sometimes the 2nd and 3rd for iPods/USB but it's never been a problem. I guess some people could need 4+ at once though. 6. I suppose so, but there are decent warranties out there and it's definitely a lot easier to send a laptop back. 7. I had a pretty good set of customization options through the Dell site (CPU, RAM, OS, discrete GPU option, backlit keyboard, etc.). There are obvious limitations though and a lot of the best laptop deals are always pre-configured set-ups. 8. Again, someone buying a laptop probably isn't going strictly for performance so I'm not sure why OC capabilities should be a primary concern. 9. You're saying laptops are less portable and harder to set up than a desktop? Does that even make sense? 10. Ok, you're really grasping here. I got a Dell Vostro 3400 ~6 months ago and have hardly touched my more powerful desktop since. I don't mind playing SC2 at low-medium settings though and all the other games I play are pretty low demand so it works for me. Seriously, being able to load up an SC2 replay in between study/programming spurts at the library is pretty awesome. Surfing TL and watching BW in bed is amazing too. OP, you really can't go wrong with an ASUS. I personally wouldn't get such a beastly laptop since I would go for portability and battery life but if you really think you need those specs, go for it. Maybe find a slightly better deal though. It feels like that price is the same as it was for similar laptops that I was looking at 6 months ago. I'd imagine it should be a little cheaper now. hey what were the specs for the laptop taht you got? like parts of the vostro did you actually get?
Processor New 2010 Intel® Core™ i5-520M (2.40GHz base, up to 2.93GHz, 2C/4T, 3MB L3) Memory 6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHZ, 2 DIMM Keyboard Backlit Keyboard with Gesture Touchpad Video Card Nvidia® Geforce™ 310M, 512MB Graphics Hard Drive 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
Came out to $1000 CDN before tax (August 2010). One downside so far has been the issues with the keyboard. It's good to type on but two clips/caps have broken so far. Gonna install the replacement they sent me tonight. Hopefully the same doesn't happen with that one. The other was overheating when playing games for a prolonged period of time with the GPU on but that was alleviated by just propping up the laptop to allow air flow underneath.
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On March 15 2011 02:40 Mazer wrote:Yea, it's pretty ridic that this has become an argument about desktops vs laptops when the OP is seeking advice for while laptop to get. I got a decent desktop when I started engineering and immediately wished I had just gotten a laptop. I've since switched to programming and gotten a laptop and it's really apparent how convenient it is to have all my shit with me in class or at the library every day. Buying a $2,000 behemoth and having a bad experience with it really doesn't warrant you telling people to buy a desktop instead. Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 14:59 pigtheman wrote:On March 12 2011 19:13 Mazer wrote:On March 12 2011 17:35 Hectic wrote: 1. laptops are not powerful enough 2. laptops are expensive 3. laptops have small screens 4. laptops keyboards are crap 5. laptops never have enough USB ports 6. laptops are more difficult to repair if they break 7. laptops do not allow you to customise your hardware and upgrade 8. laptops get hot and are not good for overclocking 9. laptops are a pain to set up and move around 10. the enthusiast PC parts market should be supported to help keep pushing PC technology at the cutting edge.
that took me about 1 minute 30 seconds
seriously though if you need one so you have a computer to work on at university then i guess you dont have a choice.
If i HAD to buy a laptop for travelling and i was trying to save money, i would get a piece of shit one for cheap, and then build a cheap desktop PC for home which would be twice as powerful as the most expensive gaming laptop. 1. If you want performance first and foremost, you'd be silly to buy a laptop. You can pony up and pay for the performance if you really need it though. 2. Obviously going to be more expensive than a PC equivalent but it comes with features that aren't possible with a desktop. 3. I guess people are used to using 19"+ monitors now. I was as well but I've gotten used to my 14" screen. I specifically went for one this size. Again though, if you're going for portability, even if there was a chance of getting a 22" laptop, that would be really silly. 4. My Dell Vostro keyboard is actually really nice to type on imo. I have however had two keys come off (one the cap broke and the second the clip broke) but I had Dell send me a complete keyboard replacement so I guess it isn't that great. 5. Mine has three USB ports, I usually use one for my mouse. Sometimes the 2nd and 3rd for iPods/USB but it's never been a problem. I guess some people could need 4+ at once though. 6. I suppose so, but there are decent warranties out there and it's definitely a lot easier to send a laptop back. 7. I had a pretty good set of customization options through the Dell site (CPU, RAM, OS, discrete GPU option, backlit keyboard, etc.). There are obvious limitations though and a lot of the best laptop deals are always pre-configured set-ups. 8. Again, someone buying a laptop probably isn't going strictly for performance so I'm not sure why OC capabilities should be a primary concern. 9. You're saying laptops are less portable and harder to set up than a desktop? Does that even make sense? 10. Ok, you're really grasping here. I got a Dell Vostro 3400 ~6 months ago and have hardly touched my more powerful desktop since. I don't mind playing SC2 at low-medium settings though and all the other games I play are pretty low demand so it works for me. Seriously, being able to load up an SC2 replay in between study/programming spurts at the library is pretty awesome. Surfing TL and watching BW in bed is amazing too. OP, you really can't go wrong with an ASUS. I personally wouldn't get such a beastly laptop since I would go for portability and battery life but if you really think you need those specs, go for it. Maybe find a slightly better deal though. It feels like that price is the same as it was for similar laptops that I was looking at 6 months ago. I'd imagine it should be a little cheaper now. hey what were the specs for the laptop taht you got? like parts of the vostro did you actually get? Processor New 2010 Intel® Core™ i5-520M (2.40GHz base, up to 2.93GHz, 2C/4T, 3MB L3) Memory 6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHZ, 2 DIMM Keyboard Backlit Keyboard with Gesture Touchpad Video Card Nvidia® Geforce™ 310M, 512MB Graphics Hard Drive 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive Came out to $1000 CDN before tax (August 2010). One downside so far has been the issues with the keyboard. It's good to type on but two clips/caps have broken so far. Gonna install the replacement they sent me tonight. Hopefully the same doesn't happen with that one. The other was overheating when playing games for a prolonged period of time with the GPU on but that was alleviated by just propping up the laptop to allow air flow underneath. thanks!! i might buy one ^^ im pretty much terrible at picking laptops and desktops to everyone telling him to get a desktop... he said hes moving around a lot like every few months or weeks so wouldnt that more beneficial for him to get a laptop? for me i just dont want to movie my computer and monitor back and forth all the time ^^
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On March 15 2011 02:40 Mazer wrote:Yea, it's pretty ridic that this has become an argument about desktops vs laptops when the OP is seeking advice for while laptop to get. I got a decent desktop when I started engineering and immediately wished I had just gotten a laptop. I've since switched to programming and gotten a laptop and it's really apparent how convenient it is to have all my shit with me in class or at the library every day. Buying a $2,000 behemoth and having a bad experience with it really doesn't warrant you telling people to buy a desktop instead. Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 14:59 pigtheman wrote:On March 12 2011 19:13 Mazer wrote:On March 12 2011 17:35 Hectic wrote: 1. laptops are not powerful enough 2. laptops are expensive 3. laptops have small screens 4. laptops keyboards are crap 5. laptops never have enough USB ports 6. laptops are more difficult to repair if they break 7. laptops do not allow you to customise your hardware and upgrade 8. laptops get hot and are not good for overclocking 9. laptops are a pain to set up and move around 10. the enthusiast PC parts market should be supported to help keep pushing PC technology at the cutting edge.
that took me about 1 minute 30 seconds
seriously though if you need one so you have a computer to work on at university then i guess you dont have a choice.
If i HAD to buy a laptop for travelling and i was trying to save money, i would get a piece of shit one for cheap, and then build a cheap desktop PC for home which would be twice as powerful as the most expensive gaming laptop. 1. If you want performance first and foremost, you'd be silly to buy a laptop. You can pony up and pay for the performance if you really need it though. 2. Obviously going to be more expensive than a PC equivalent but it comes with features that aren't possible with a desktop. 3. I guess people are used to using 19"+ monitors now. I was as well but I've gotten used to my 14" screen. I specifically went for one this size. Again though, if you're going for portability, even if there was a chance of getting a 22" laptop, that would be really silly. 4. My Dell Vostro keyboard is actually really nice to type on imo. I have however had two keys come off (one the cap broke and the second the clip broke) but I had Dell send me a complete keyboard replacement so I guess it isn't that great. 5. Mine has three USB ports, I usually use one for my mouse. Sometimes the 2nd and 3rd for iPods/USB but it's never been a problem. I guess some people could need 4+ at once though. 6. I suppose so, but there are decent warranties out there and it's definitely a lot easier to send a laptop back. 7. I had a pretty good set of customization options through the Dell site (CPU, RAM, OS, discrete GPU option, backlit keyboard, etc.). There are obvious limitations though and a lot of the best laptop deals are always pre-configured set-ups. 8. Again, someone buying a laptop probably isn't going strictly for performance so I'm not sure why OC capabilities should be a primary concern. 9. You're saying laptops are less portable and harder to set up than a desktop? Does that even make sense? 10. Ok, you're really grasping here. I got a Dell Vostro 3400 ~6 months ago and have hardly touched my more powerful desktop since. I don't mind playing SC2 at low-medium settings though and all the other games I play are pretty low demand so it works for me. Seriously, being able to load up an SC2 replay in between study/programming spurts at the library is pretty awesome. Surfing TL and watching BW in bed is amazing too. OP, you really can't go wrong with an ASUS. I personally wouldn't get such a beastly laptop since I would go for portability and battery life but if you really think you need those specs, go for it. Maybe find a slightly better deal though. It feels like that price is the same as it was for similar laptops that I was looking at 6 months ago. I'd imagine it should be a little cheaper now. hey what were the specs for the laptop taht you got? like parts of the vostro did you actually get? Processor New 2010 Intel® Core™ i5-520M (2.40GHz base, up to 2.93GHz, 2C/4T, 3MB L3) Memory 6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHZ, 2 DIMM Keyboard Backlit Keyboard with Gesture Touchpad Video Card Nvidia® Geforce™ 310M, 512MB Graphics Hard Drive 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive Came out to $1000 CDN before tax (August 2010). One downside so far has been the issues with the keyboard. It's good to type on but two clips/caps have broken so far. Gonna install the replacement they sent me tonight. Hopefully the same doesn't happen with that one. The other was overheating when playing games for a prolonged period of time with the GPU on but that was alleviated by just propping up the laptop to allow air flow underneath. People have not read my post on page 2 and keep arguing off topic. Since this thread is a personal request for help of mine, i would be really sad if its got closed b4 i have a laptop on my hand due to some "off topic reasons"....
@Mazer: hmm, that looks fine, 1k in August should be round 800 by now... mind telling me where u got it so i could study the market price? :D...
Back in august i would be happy to settle with an i5 but now once sandy bridge came out. I feel like i5 will soon lose it price in no time -> i7 is a little bit safer x(
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On March 15 2011 01:07 MasterOfChaos wrote: Why do people need to argue for the superiority of Desktops in every damn Laptop thread? Just because it's good for your usage pattern doesn't mean it's good for everyone. I for one think that switching between laptop and desktop all the time, synchronizing your data and installed software... is highly annoying.
I don't think anybody is saying: 'don't get a laptop at all, get a desktop'.
Instead, most are suggesting spending money on a cheap, portable laptop and a mid end gaming desktop rather than an expensive gaming laptop.
Each form factor has its advantages: desktop for power, laptop for portability. Most savvy users are suggesting that a gaming laptop is a poor compromise.
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On March 15 2011 23:39 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 02:40 Mazer wrote:Yea, it's pretty ridic that this has become an argument about desktops vs laptops when the OP is seeking advice for while laptop to get. I got a decent desktop when I started engineering and immediately wished I had just gotten a laptop. I've since switched to programming and gotten a laptop and it's really apparent how convenient it is to have all my shit with me in class or at the library every day. Buying a $2,000 behemoth and having a bad experience with it really doesn't warrant you telling people to buy a desktop instead. On March 14 2011 14:59 pigtheman wrote:On March 12 2011 19:13 Mazer wrote:On March 12 2011 17:35 Hectic wrote: 1. laptops are not powerful enough 2. laptops are expensive 3. laptops have small screens 4. laptops keyboards are crap 5. laptops never have enough USB ports 6. laptops are more difficult to repair if they break 7. laptops do not allow you to customise your hardware and upgrade 8. laptops get hot and are not good for overclocking 9. laptops are a pain to set up and move around 10. the enthusiast PC parts market should be supported to help keep pushing PC technology at the cutting edge.
that took me about 1 minute 30 seconds
seriously though if you need one so you have a computer to work on at university then i guess you dont have a choice.
If i HAD to buy a laptop for travelling and i was trying to save money, i would get a piece of shit one for cheap, and then build a cheap desktop PC for home which would be twice as powerful as the most expensive gaming laptop. 1. If you want performance first and foremost, you'd be silly to buy a laptop. You can pony up and pay for the performance if you really need it though. 2. Obviously going to be more expensive than a PC equivalent but it comes with features that aren't possible with a desktop. 3. I guess people are used to using 19"+ monitors now. I was as well but I've gotten used to my 14" screen. I specifically went for one this size. Again though, if you're going for portability, even if there was a chance of getting a 22" laptop, that would be really silly. 4. My Dell Vostro keyboard is actually really nice to type on imo. I have however had two keys come off (one the cap broke and the second the clip broke) but I had Dell send me a complete keyboard replacement so I guess it isn't that great. 5. Mine has three USB ports, I usually use one for my mouse. Sometimes the 2nd and 3rd for iPods/USB but it's never been a problem. I guess some people could need 4+ at once though. 6. I suppose so, but there are decent warranties out there and it's definitely a lot easier to send a laptop back. 7. I had a pretty good set of customization options through the Dell site (CPU, RAM, OS, discrete GPU option, backlit keyboard, etc.). There are obvious limitations though and a lot of the best laptop deals are always pre-configured set-ups. 8. Again, someone buying a laptop probably isn't going strictly for performance so I'm not sure why OC capabilities should be a primary concern. 9. You're saying laptops are less portable and harder to set up than a desktop? Does that even make sense? 10. Ok, you're really grasping here. I got a Dell Vostro 3400 ~6 months ago and have hardly touched my more powerful desktop since. I don't mind playing SC2 at low-medium settings though and all the other games I play are pretty low demand so it works for me. Seriously, being able to load up an SC2 replay in between study/programming spurts at the library is pretty awesome. Surfing TL and watching BW in bed is amazing too. OP, you really can't go wrong with an ASUS. I personally wouldn't get such a beastly laptop since I would go for portability and battery life but if you really think you need those specs, go for it. Maybe find a slightly better deal though. It feels like that price is the same as it was for similar laptops that I was looking at 6 months ago. I'd imagine it should be a little cheaper now. hey what were the specs for the laptop taht you got? like parts of the vostro did you actually get? Processor New 2010 Intel® Core™ i5-520M (2.40GHz base, up to 2.93GHz, 2C/4T, 3MB L3) Memory 6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHZ, 2 DIMM Keyboard Backlit Keyboard with Gesture Touchpad Video Card Nvidia® Geforce™ 310M, 512MB Graphics Hard Drive 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive Came out to $1000 CDN before tax (August 2010). One downside so far has been the issues with the keyboard. It's good to type on but two clips/caps have broken so far. Gonna install the replacement they sent me tonight. Hopefully the same doesn't happen with that one. The other was overheating when playing games for a prolonged period of time with the GPU on but that was alleviated by just propping up the laptop to allow air flow underneath. People have not read my post on page 2 and keep arguing off topic. Since this thread is a personal request for help of mine, i would be really sad if its got closed b4 i have a laptop on my hand due to some "off topic reasons".... @Mazer: hmm, that looks fine, 1k in August should be round 800 by now... mind telling me where u got it so i could study the market price? :D... Back in august i would be happy to settle with an i5 but now once sandy bridge came out. I feel like i5 will soon lose it price in no time -> i7 is a little bit safer x(
The real question is:
Do you NEED an i7? If you're getting something that doesn't depreciate in value, you're thinking of financial instruments. I buy a laptop or I buy a car with the full knowledge that it WILL depreciate in value, but at least it suits my needs and what I want.
It's resale value and depreciation rate should not be factor in your purchase unless you plan on reselling.
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On March 15 2011 01:35 Moody wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 01:07 MasterOfChaos wrote:Why do people need to argue for the superiority of Desktops in every damn Laptop thread? Just because it's good for your usage pattern doesn't mean it's good for everyone. I for one think that switching between laptop and desktop all the time, synchronizing your data and installed software... is highly annoying. On March 14 2011 18:05 Teivospy wrote: laptops are the biggest wastes of money, you don't need one if you're going to university unless you like lying to yourself. So you know what everybody needs better then them and assume that they are lying to themselves if they think that a laptop is more useful for them than a desktop. Don't you think that's slighly arrogant? I would have to say that people assuming they need a lap top for college is a bit silly. I can say this, because I got one for college, and it RARELY left my desk in my apartment. I bought a $2,000 Alienware in 2005, and by 2008 it was unusable due to over heating and I couldn't upgrade anything. I THOUGHT I would need a lap top to take to class / library / friends houses... but when your laptop is 2 inches thick and could kill a small child if dropped, it's not worth the trouble to move it. It was too big and bulky to quickly pack it up and take it to a friends house or to take it home. Honestly, the only advantage of having a lap top vs having a desktop in a small-medium case is that you don't have to pack up a monitor. I bought the desk top that I am currently using in September of last year, and I have moved it more than I moved my Alienware laptop. Just sayin'
It's not silly at all. I bought my laptop for uni and I just threw it in my backpack and took it everywhere. It was especially good when learning with my mate. We could hand outside in the green using his wireless not beeing bound to a fucking desk we would hang out the rest of the days anyway.
I also did a strong decision against one of those faggy netbooks as my Laptop needed still some power to compile or simulate electric networks. I would also hate to look into a small netbook screen.
Nowadays I don't need my laptop that much anymore as I got better things to do than hanging in front of a PC when visiting friends but I never ever regreted getting a laptop for uni.
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On March 10 2011 12:53 EZjijy wrote: Wasn't sandy bridge integrated graphics good enough to run sc2 pretty smoothly above low settings?
The SB can run SC2 on Medium. I personally changed the CPU dependent aspects to High and kept the rest (such as shaders) on Low.
I had to change from 1920x1080 to 1280x720 whilst using the integrated graphics alone to gain performance (even on low graphics, in 'busy' situations the frame rates can drop significantly on full HD). I wouldn't recommend using the integrated graphics as final solution though.
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On March 16 2011 01:13 Antimage wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 23:39 NB wrote:On March 15 2011 02:40 Mazer wrote:Yea, it's pretty ridic that this has become an argument about desktops vs laptops when the OP is seeking advice for while laptop to get. I got a decent desktop when I started engineering and immediately wished I had just gotten a laptop. I've since switched to programming and gotten a laptop and it's really apparent how convenient it is to have all my shit with me in class or at the library every day. Buying a $2,000 behemoth and having a bad experience with it really doesn't warrant you telling people to buy a desktop instead. On March 14 2011 14:59 pigtheman wrote:On March 12 2011 19:13 Mazer wrote:On March 12 2011 17:35 Hectic wrote: 1. laptops are not powerful enough 2. laptops are expensive 3. laptops have small screens 4. laptops keyboards are crap 5. laptops never have enough USB ports 6. laptops are more difficult to repair if they break 7. laptops do not allow you to customise your hardware and upgrade 8. laptops get hot and are not good for overclocking 9. laptops are a pain to set up and move around 10. the enthusiast PC parts market should be supported to help keep pushing PC technology at the cutting edge.
that took me about 1 minute 30 seconds
seriously though if you need one so you have a computer to work on at university then i guess you dont have a choice.
If i HAD to buy a laptop for travelling and i was trying to save money, i would get a piece of shit one for cheap, and then build a cheap desktop PC for home which would be twice as powerful as the most expensive gaming laptop. 1. If you want performance first and foremost, you'd be silly to buy a laptop. You can pony up and pay for the performance if you really need it though. 2. Obviously going to be more expensive than a PC equivalent but it comes with features that aren't possible with a desktop. 3. I guess people are used to using 19"+ monitors now. I was as well but I've gotten used to my 14" screen. I specifically went for one this size. Again though, if you're going for portability, even if there was a chance of getting a 22" laptop, that would be really silly. 4. My Dell Vostro keyboard is actually really nice to type on imo. I have however had two keys come off (one the cap broke and the second the clip broke) but I had Dell send me a complete keyboard replacement so I guess it isn't that great. 5. Mine has three USB ports, I usually use one for my mouse. Sometimes the 2nd and 3rd for iPods/USB but it's never been a problem. I guess some people could need 4+ at once though. 6. I suppose so, but there are decent warranties out there and it's definitely a lot easier to send a laptop back. 7. I had a pretty good set of customization options through the Dell site (CPU, RAM, OS, discrete GPU option, backlit keyboard, etc.). There are obvious limitations though and a lot of the best laptop deals are always pre-configured set-ups. 8. Again, someone buying a laptop probably isn't going strictly for performance so I'm not sure why OC capabilities should be a primary concern. 9. You're saying laptops are less portable and harder to set up than a desktop? Does that even make sense? 10. Ok, you're really grasping here. I got a Dell Vostro 3400 ~6 months ago and have hardly touched my more powerful desktop since. I don't mind playing SC2 at low-medium settings though and all the other games I play are pretty low demand so it works for me. Seriously, being able to load up an SC2 replay in between study/programming spurts at the library is pretty awesome. Surfing TL and watching BW in bed is amazing too. OP, you really can't go wrong with an ASUS. I personally wouldn't get such a beastly laptop since I would go for portability and battery life but if you really think you need those specs, go for it. Maybe find a slightly better deal though. It feels like that price is the same as it was for similar laptops that I was looking at 6 months ago. I'd imagine it should be a little cheaper now. hey what were the specs for the laptop taht you got? like parts of the vostro did you actually get? Processor New 2010 Intel® Core™ i5-520M (2.40GHz base, up to 2.93GHz, 2C/4T, 3MB L3) Memory 6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHZ, 2 DIMM Keyboard Backlit Keyboard with Gesture Touchpad Video Card Nvidia® Geforce™ 310M, 512MB Graphics Hard Drive 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive Came out to $1000 CDN before tax (August 2010). One downside so far has been the issues with the keyboard. It's good to type on but two clips/caps have broken so far. Gonna install the replacement they sent me tonight. Hopefully the same doesn't happen with that one. The other was overheating when playing games for a prolonged period of time with the GPU on but that was alleviated by just propping up the laptop to allow air flow underneath. People have not read my post on page 2 and keep arguing off topic. Since this thread is a personal request for help of mine, i would be really sad if its got closed b4 i have a laptop on my hand due to some "off topic reasons".... @Mazer: hmm, that looks fine, 1k in August should be round 800 by now... mind telling me where u got it so i could study the market price? :D... Back in august i would be happy to settle with an i5 but now once sandy bridge came out. I feel like i5 will soon lose it price in no time -> i7 is a little bit safer x( The real question is: Do you NEED an i7? If you're getting something that doesn't depreciate in value, you're thinking of financial instruments. I buy a laptop or I buy a car with the full knowledge that it WILL depreciate in value, but at least it suits my needs and what I want. It's resale value and depreciation rate should not be factor in your purchase unless you plan on reselling. i have thought about that actually... but then software factor scared me off. What if they raise the requirements shit for heart of the swarm the P expansion??
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On March 10 2011 12:38 NB wrote: So I am about to buy this laptop this weekend or next weekend and i REALLY REALLY want to know all the downside of it before i make the final decision. Spending a lots of money on a brick because of all the advertisements has never been a wise choice to me.
Name: ASUS G53JW-A1 Price: $1299.99 (CND cash) + tax CPU: i7 740QM (is this sandy bridge?) RAM: 6GB GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M 1.5GB HDD: 750GB LCD: 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) LED
extra: win7, usb 3.0, webcam 2.0M, bluetooth and they mentioned smthing about free gaming mouse + backpack.... The laptop itself is a brick with 2 HUGE exausht fans and quite heavy but i guess it should be like that due to i7
i compare to other places price and see this is a pretty decent deal but still, im a student and really want to spend my money smart x(....
Please help!
1) wait for sandy bridge processors in laptops (I have ordered a Dell XPS 17 with i7-2630qm). they are faster and they use less energy (=battery last longer). with optimus you also use the intel integrated graphics in sandy bridge to make battery last even longer and it helps with the heat also 2) i prefer 2 modules of 2Gb ram in windows 7. its more than enough imho. what are you gonna use it primarily for? 3) is the hard drive 7200rpm? best choice would be an SSD followed with an 7200rpm drive i guess 4) imho full HD in 15,6'' is a bit straining to the eyes.. 5) the laptop seems expensive. check out dell.ca 6) what warranty you get? thats really important in laptops imho
The things that I like are the GPU and the brand. Asus have a good reputation when it comes to laptops.
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