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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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-RusH
United States240 Posts
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On September 03 2014 04:38 -RusH wrote: Question, are Zowie Mico's no longer being made?! Been waiting for them to appear on newegg/amazon. Not sure if they are being made or not but you're looking in the wrong places to buy them. Newegg used to have them but no longer stock them. Read my post on the previous page to find links. | ||
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sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
Since this thread seems to be active and related to my question I figured I might as well as post here. For a few years I've been using this small cloth generic mouse pad so I've decided to upgrade it! I wasn't sure what to choose so I went with the most popular as well as cheap one which turned out to be SteelSeries Qck When I got the Qck earlier today and started using it I noticed that the surface felt very slippery due to lack of friction compared to my old pad. It was like I was suddenly using acceleration haha Anyway just curious, is this happening because it hasn't been worn out yet? Or all other mouse pads like this. I'm using Abyssus btw if that matters :0 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Now that you have freedom to move your mouse properly, maybe take the opportunity to lower DPI and gain accuracy from it~ | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
I don't think it will actually ever really wear out as long as it's just the mouse feet touching it and never plastic from the mouse shell scratching it up. It will not feel like new after some time and some washing, but I don't think mine ever got a spot in the middle that felt different than the rest of the surface. | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
 Hopefully this pad will last long or longer than my old one. I'm getting used to this new speed too | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On September 02 2014 13:43 sfbaydave wrote: I was looking for a small, claw grip mouse. Bought a Abyssus(not the 2014 one) and didnt like it all, the buttons are very stiff. Then I discovered the Logitech G100s and man, this mouse is awesome and affordable. Its very light and small but its perfect for me. The software is a little funky but overall, loving this so far. tl;dr: I want a Logitech Mini Optical replacement. My LMO is worn out. I want something new that is similar with a better sensor and buttons. I just got a Logitech G100, but it is too big. I feel like I have to claw grip it and it feels weird and slow. I also have a cm spawn and it's way too big on the edges. I feel like I'm palm gripping it. I have small hands, use a fingertip grip with thumb and ring finger, and frequently lift the mouse off the mouse pad. I took the weights out of my LMO to make it lighter. I've read several comments praising the G100, but I just want something newer and better that feels like the LMO. I would get another LMO, but I'm playing Age of Kings. It doesn't let you change mouse sensitivity, so I have it on 100% in windows and it still isn't sensitive enough. I would like to have it set to 6/11 in windows and then adjust the dpi so the mouse is more accurate and sensitive. The mico sensor skipping scares me, and I would have to wait longer to get it since no amazon prime shipping. The abyssus seems to have lots of negative comments on the sensor and durability. It seems like every mouse has a problem with firmware or the sensor skipping. It can't be that hard to find a newer and better LMO, right? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
Random thoughts: I use a fingertip grip. My thinking is that I'd want a slimmer/lighter mouse, but I'm not 100% sure on this. I'd like to have a few programmble buttons, but don't really need anything excessive. Don't really play FPS, more stuff like RTS/MOBA/MMO/etc. Anything below ~$100 is fine. Instantly adjustable DPI sounds like a nice feature, but I'm not sure if it's something I would really use. I don't think I need any obscenely high DPI mice. I'm currently looking at something like the SteelSeries Sensei or the Logitech G502s. Any input or advice is appreciated, or just for tips on other mice to look at. Thanks. | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On September 08 2014 13:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Looking for a new mouse. Having used random two button and a scroll-wheel HP/Microsoft/Dell mice for all my life, I honestly don't even know what I want or what to look for. Random thoughts: I use a fingertip grip. My thinking is that I'd want a slimmer/lighter mouse, but I'm not 100% sure on this. I'd like to have a few programmble buttons, but don't really need anything excessive. Don't really play FPS, more stuff like RTS/MOBA/MMO/etc. Anything below ~$100 is fine. Instantly adjustable DPI sounds like a nice feature, but I'm not sure if it's something I would really use. I don't think I need any obscenely high DPI mice. I'm currently looking at something like the SteelSeries Sensei or the Logitech G502s. Any input or advice is appreciated, or just for tips on other mice to look at. Thanks. I have the G502. If you play for a long time you might get tired from the weight. It's a great mouse, very customizable and easy to get used to with a finger-tip grip. | ||
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EdenPLusDucky
571 Posts
fingertip/claw 2. What's your sensitivity? 1200 dpi 3. What's your maximum budget? 100 USD 4. Do you want additional buttons? no 5. What games do you play? sc2 6. Do you mind angle snapping? yes 7. Other relevant information: I've owned a Razer Abyssus for 3 years now and I can safely say that it sucks. The mouse is very uncomfortable to hold, it makes the area around my backhand hurt because my thumb cannot tuck itself deep enough. This also negatively affects my play by making me play slower. I want something like this http://i.imgur.com/AxjfxDg.jpg this is probably the most comfortable mouse I have ever used in my entire life, and it's also the mouse that got me to masters before I bought the Abyssus. Thanks in advance. | ||
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
feel free to PM me, Thank you in advance for the help. | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
If you have the same DPI on the mouse and the same windows settings it should feel the same, I've never used synapse so if it doesn't I don't know how to help you further :< | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Your windows mouse sensitivity should be set to the middle bar (6/11) with enhanced pointer precision DISABLED, then you can adjust DPI to adjust sens. That old mouse had ~400-450 i think too, so you can match that, but i have the feeling that you were probably using some form of acceleration or scaling above 1.0x, which you should probably take the time to remove now that you have a new mouse if that's true | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
On September 11 2014 01:53 Cyro wrote: Polling rate isn't completely irrelevant and you should put it to 1k, acceleration etc should just be off completely. Your windows mouse sensitivity should be set to the middle bar (6/11) with enhanced pointer precision DISABLED, then you can adjust DPI to adjust sens. That old mouse had ~400-450 i think too, so you can match that, but i have the feeling that you were probably using some form of acceleration or scaling above 1.0x, which you should probably take the time to remove now that you have a new mouse if that's true What I meant is that it's irrelevant to the sensitivity, isn't it? Even though 1K hz may feel different than the 3.0's 125hz I suppose | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On September 11 2014 02:03 Nimix wrote: What I meant is that it's irrelevant to the sensitivity, isn't it? Even though 1K hz may feel different than the 3.0's 125hz I suppose Yea it's irrelevant to sensitivity but it's better because 1000hz adds 0.5ms of average latency while 125hz adds 4ms + Show Spoiler + and 125hz also matches up badly with 60, 120 and 144hz which causes dragging a window or turning around in an FPS game to be less smooth, because the time between update and refresh and also the amount of updates per refresh is variable and causes some motion artifacts. That's mostly a small issue, relevant more for people using CRT's or other solutions for low motion blur (where it stands out 10x harder) but it affects everyone so it's worth a mention~ This is what it looks like, not very practically useful for most people but interesting i think ![[image loading]](http://www.blurbusters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mouse-125vs500vs1000.jpg) Ideally we would have selectable polling rates like 600, 1200, 1440, that would fix this synchronization issue, by giving etc 10 polls between every refresh, instead of sometimes 2, sometimes 3 with 60hz screen and 125hz mouse. Until then though, raising polling rate a lot helps to mitigate the issue, because even if the ratio is still off, one poll at 1000hz being missing is much less important than one poll at 125hz missing, which creates a disruption of motion that's even visible to the naked eye with some setups. | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
On September 11 2014 04:40 Cyro wrote: Yea it's irrelevant to sensitivity but it's better because 1000hz adds 0.5ms of average latency while 125hz adds 4ms + Show Spoiler + and 125hz also matches up badly with 60, 120 and 144hz which causes dragging a window or turning around in an FPS game to be less smooth, because the time between update and refresh and also the amount of updates per refresh is variable and causes some motion artifacts. That's mostly a small issue, relevant more for people using CRT's or other solutions for low motion blur (where it stands out 10x harder) but it affects everyone so it's worth a mention~ This is what it looks like, not very practically useful for most people but interesting i think Ideally we would have selectable polling rates like 600, 1200, 1440, that would fix this synchronization issue, by giving etc 10 polls between every refresh, instead of sometimes 2, sometimes 3 with 60hz screen and 125hz mouse. Until then though, raising polling rate a lot helps to mitigate the issue, because even if the ratio is still off, one poll at 1000hz being missing is much less important than one poll at 125hz missing, which creates a disruption of motion that's even visible to the naked eye with some setups. Okay just checking I wasn't bullshitting  | ||
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