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duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
January 09 2012 16:21 GMT
#321
On January 09 2012 22:09 lisward wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:56 duckii wrote:
I bought the kana last week, but I was a bit disappointed with the quality. The feet are bad (not that big a deal) and the right mouse button gets stuck sometimes. Maybe I got a "Montagsproduktion" (lemon mouse).





It gets stuck? Wtf return it dude it's faulty, you shouldnt have to live with it. Can you give a more detailed review also :D

Of course I returned it, but I won't buy a new one either.
The switches required a bit too much force for my liking. The feet are just plastic, although on the ss homepage it says teflon feet. I really like the shape of the mouse (I'm an old 1.1a enthusiast), the tracking felt good but overall I was a bit disappointed. I might try the zowie am next, but I will wait for the second batch in march.
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
January 09 2012 19:12 GMT
#322
I should receive my Kana tomorrow, though I have a feeling I will be sending it back after reading a lot of comments on overclock.net. I play at 1600 dpi and supposedly the tracking is horrible at that setting on the kana. On top of that, there is a bug that causes your mouse to jump pixels when doing verticle movements and the feet are plastic instead of teflon despite what SS says on their website. Add this to the mountain of gaming mice that have glaring flaws.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 20:15:46
January 09 2012 20:15 GMT
#323
On January 07 2012 16:18 jackdaleaper wrote:
I'm buying a new mouse and I'm choosing between Logitech G9, G500 or MX518. Can anyone recommend which one would be the best choice? I think I'm more of a fingertip user and I don't have big hands. Other recommendations would be welcome, I was thinking of getting a Razer but looking at this thread I found a lot of people having issues with them. Maybe Steelseries, CM or TT Esports mice?


You can fingertip grip the MX518, which supports all three common mousing styles. It isnt as perfect as a mini-mouse sounds like it would be for you.

However I can guarantee the quality of the mouse. Even after all these years.

The DPI is fully adjustable, which is more than very many mice can say.
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
January 10 2012 03:42 GMT
#324
On January 10 2012 00:51 ranshaked wrote:
My g9 finally gave out as well as my g15. Are there any equivalent mouses to a g9. I love this mouse. I like heavier mouses. I play fps and sc2.


Why not get another g9/x?
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Vodh
Profile Joined May 2010
68 Posts
January 10 2012 10:56 GMT
#325
I've got a question about the Razer Imperator 4g. The old model had a problem with mouse lifting - just lifting the mouse and putting it back down actually moved the cursor. Did they fix it in the 2012 edition?
Are you ready, guys? Put ya gunz on!
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
January 10 2012 11:10 GMT
#326
On January 10 2012 19:56 Vodh wrote:
I've got a question about the Razer Imperator 4g. The old model had a problem with mouse lifting - just lifting the mouse and putting it back down actually moved the cursor. Did they fix it in the 2012 edition?


A close friend of mine is using the mouse and he hasn't had any complaints about the lift-off. Seems the optical sensor is doing its job.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
January 10 2012 11:25 GMT
#327
I cannot seem to find a good review for the Steelseries Kana and Kinzu v2. I heard that they used a sensor without patented SteelSeries 5% accelleration^TM, so I am quite interested in hearing more about these mice. Could anyone link me through to any discussion on these mice?
This signature is ruining eSports.
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
January 10 2012 11:57 GMT
#328
Cannot decide which razor product should I get next. Currently using mx518. Any lil' help for me ^^?
Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
January 10 2012 12:50 GMT
#329
On January 10 2012 20:57 PeZuY wrote:
Cannot decide which razor product should I get next. Currently using mx518. Any lil' help for me ^^?


I personally don't think you should lock yourself into getting one brand before you have a good look around. However since you use the mx518 it seems like you probably like big, palmy mice. If this is the case then with razor i would go with a deathadder. However there are many other brands that offer good palm mice.
IPS.Blue
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany309 Posts
January 10 2012 13:19 GMT
#330
On January 10 2012 01:21 duckii wrote:...
I might try the zowie am next, but I will wait for the second batch in march.

The Zowie AM has a superb sensor but the /__\ shape makes it hard to fingertip grip.
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
January 10 2012 13:48 GMT
#331
On January 10 2012 04:12 Neurosis wrote:
I should receive my Kana tomorrow, though I have a feeling I will be sending it back after reading a lot of comments on overclock.net. I play at 1600 dpi and supposedly the tracking is horrible at that setting on the kana. On top of that, there is a bug that causes your mouse to jump pixels when doing verticle movements and the feet are plastic instead of teflon despite what SS says on their website. Add this to the mountain of gaming mice that have glaring flaws.

Where are the reviews bro, I can't find any!
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
eccokk
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 15:32:48
January 10 2012 15:25 GMT
#332
On January 09 2012 20:34 IPS.Blue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 22:21 eccokk wrote:
he uses 800 dpi but the ingame settings are higher,i think mvps was around 70% ingame sens,

71-74 % ingame sensitivity equals 8/11 in Windows. His effective CPI is therefore not 800 but 1600. The next missing information: which screen resolution does he use ...1920x1200 has nearly twice as much pixels to move over as 1280x1024 does have ...

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 22:21 eccokk wrote:
they posted a link where you could see all the hardware and settings the use. ...

Link please



sorry i am not too active on tl, here is the link it was posted in the chat from the IM translator ( quanie or however you spell it )

http://www.leveltory.com/im

click on the players below to see their setups, and it seems to be their real preferences they all use different brands, not like eg where they have to use steelseries etc.

hope this helps^^

/most of them use low dpi but high ingame mouse sens ( around 800 dpi and 60-70% ingame speed ), BBiBBi does use 4200dpi though without ingame speed as the only guy. they all play in 1920 X 1080
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 16:52:05
January 10 2012 16:12 GMT
#333
On January 10 2012 20:25 Khenra wrote:
I cannot seem to find a good review for the Steelseries Kana and Kinzu v2. I heard that they used a sensor without patented SteelSeries 5% accelleration^TM, so I am quite interested in hearing more about these mice. Could anyone link me through to any discussion on these mice?
It's because they are only available in Europe at the moment and very new. I posted these back a few pages so they might help

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2200424
http://www.overclock.net/t/1183274/kinzu-v2-kinzu-v2-pro-and-kana

Edit: To TheToast, this link is a little more up to date with newer mice specs than the current spreadsheet.
http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/ocn-mouse-reference-thread

Edit 2: Oh I just found that ESR link again that discusses mouse prediction, malfunction speed, dpi and resolution. On pages 1-2. http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=1
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GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
January 10 2012 16:21 GMT
#334
I cannot recommend cyborg R.A.T enough. Everyone I know who has purchased one has nothing but good things to say about it I love it!
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20324 Posts
January 10 2012 20:15 GMT
#335
On January 11 2012 00:25 eccokk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:34 IPS.Blue wrote:
On January 06 2012 22:21 eccokk wrote:
he uses 800 dpi but the ingame settings are higher,i think mvps was around 70% ingame sens,

71-74 % ingame sensitivity equals 8/11 in Windows. His effective CPI is therefore not 800 but 1600. The next missing information: which screen resolution does he use ...1920x1200 has nearly twice as much pixels to move over as 1280x1024 does have ...

On January 06 2012 22:21 eccokk wrote:
they posted a link where you could see all the hardware and settings the use. ...

Link please



sorry i am not too active on tl, here is the link it was posted in the chat from the IM translator ( quanie or however you spell it )

http://www.leveltory.com/im

click on the players below to see their setups, and it seems to be their real preferences they all use different brands, not like eg where they have to use steelseries etc.

hope this helps^^

/most of them use low dpi but high ingame mouse sens ( around 800 dpi and 60-70% ingame speed ), BBiBBi does use 4200dpi though without ingame speed as the only guy. they all play in 1920 X 1080



The entire IM team is doing it wrong, then
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
IPS.Blue
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany309 Posts
January 10 2012 21:36 GMT
#336
On January 11 2012 05:15 Cyro wrote:
The entire IM team is doing it wrong, then

And besides that most of them play with mice which use the 9500 laser sensor. I wonder if they don't feel the acceleration or they just don't mind it ...
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 10 2012 21:43 GMT
#337
Even the best players can learn from the worst players. Just because someone is 3 time GSL champion doesnt mean they couldnt do even better without a handicap they dont even know about.
twitch.tv/medrea
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
January 10 2012 21:56 GMT
#338
Here is a detailed discussion on the Kana and all the problems it has.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1183274/kinzu-v2-kinzu-v2-pro-and-kana/550

I just received mine today (wish I had read that thread before ordering it) and it's going back to the store asap. I use 1600 dpi on my mx518 and that setting on the kana has horrible tracking (far sloppier than my forever old mx518 even....). The jump bug occurs on all dpi settings and it happens quite frequently. You absolutely will notice it when boxing workers at the start of sc2 and I can see it causing many misplaced depots/pylons/whatever lol.

The feet are indeed plastic instead of teflon, so if you use a cloth pad like myself then there will be some heavy resistance. I find the mouse incredibly comfortable and if all of these problems didn't exist then I would love it, but honestly terrible tracking and a horrendous jump bug are unacceptable in a gaming mouse.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 22:22:23
January 10 2012 22:08 GMT
#339
On January 11 2012 06:56 Neurosis wrote:
Here is a detailed discussion on the Kana and all the problems it has.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1183274/kinzu-v2-kinzu-v2-pro-and-kana/550

I just received mine today (wish I had read that thread before ordering it) and it's going back to the store asap. I use 1600 dpi on my mx518 and that setting on the kana has horrible tracking (far sloppier than my forever old mx518 even....). The jump bug occurs on all dpi settings and it happens quite frequently. You absolutely will notice it when boxing workers at the start of sc2 and I can see it causing many misplaced depots/pylons/whatever lol.

The feet are indeed plastic instead of teflon, so if you use a cloth pad like myself then there will be some heavy resistance. I find the mouse incredibly comfortable and if all of these problems didn't exist then I would love it, but honestly terrible tracking and a horrendous jump bug are unacceptable in a gaming mouse.


good read.

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Lol bad mouse.

Its funny to watch companies self destruct they're entire business for a few bucks now.

Also evidently a "feature" of this mouse is that the executable for the driver to run it uses 128MB's of RAM! Holy shit! lol!

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Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 22:26:59
January 10 2012 22:25 GMT
#340
Like, how hard is it to make a mouse that doesn't have some massive glaring flaw? Apparently impossible. The deathadder seems to be the only flawless gaming mouse as far as the sensor goes but I don't like the shape of it. Someone should put that sensor inside the Kana, I'd buy it
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