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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
im looking to replace my pretty worn down g9x and any idea what the difference between the 700 and the 700s beyond a new sensor [higher dpi], as i dont go more than 2400 dpi. i mean who really uses 5700 dpi? O.o edit palm/claw grip, its like half and halfish the way i hold it around 1800 dpi, medium sized hands using steelseries qck mousepad | ||
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
On April 03 2013 15:16 IMHope wrote: So has anyone heard any info on the g100's? Wondering if I should wait for it to come out or just buy a Zowie Mico. Was considering the Sensei but reading in forums about it made me not want to go with that mouse. plenty of stuff on OCN about it, but mine finally shipped yesterday, so I should get it soon. Also, sensei is going to be a pretty darned large mouse compared with the mico or the g100s. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On April 11 2013 08:50 amd098 wrote: anyone have a g700? or the newer g700s? im looking to replace my pretty worn down g9x and any idea what the difference between the 700 and the 700s beyond a new sensor [higher dpi], as i dont go more than 2400 dpi. i mean who really uses 5700 dpi? O.o edit palm/claw grip, its like half and halfish the way i hold it around 1800 dpi, medium sized hands using steelseries qck mousepad If you can get a G9x i'd do it, the G700 isn't as wide which made the transition for me a bit awkward, mostly middle clicks. I used to only use it plugged in but i found wireless mode felt much nicer to have no cable tugging on it is so nice and wireless in my area isn't an issue. Pretty much locked into wireless logitech mice now due to hyper-scroll and wireless. Battery can last a day of Internet surfing if you set it to save power in the profile. Which you can change always when you want to game but the batter doesn't last too long when gaming esp if you set it to 1000Hz max gaming, maybe like 3 hours at that mode. Like 6 hours if at 500hz normal gaming mode. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
If you can get a G9x i'd do it Bad sensor, look back a page or two (edit: wrong thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405788¤tpage=3#56 )I disagree with wireless but that's more personal and partially because i don't know of any decent wireless mice | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:33 Cyro wrote: Bad sensor, look back a page or two (edit: wrong thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405788¤tpage=3#56 ) I disagree with wireless but that's more personal and partially because i don't know of any decent wireless mice Who cares he's been using a G9x just fine till now, he's looking to get a new mouse before his mouse breaks. If perfect sensors were necessary for games very few mice would fall into that and you'd have to pair them with a proper surface. Close enough sensors are good for all kinds of gaming outside of super serious people who play fps games 8+ hours a day. I see it the same as people who stick to PS/2 keyboards for insignificant amounts of lag time due to how the computer takes the input stack. Or those who use CRT monitors for similar reasons. Most people have acceptable ranges for interfaces. | ||
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TheLastNagual
Bulgaria6 Posts
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mk.ultra
United States54 Posts
Glad that Amazon is lenient and letting me return it without the box which I hastily discarded. Ordered a Logitech G100s, Logitech has never failed me before and they have outstanding customer service. No stupid marketing gimmicks, just quality products. | ||
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eBinTestO
Finland104 Posts
I love the abyssus, and the sensor is amazing. Not sure what's the problem with yours. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
On April 11 2013 12:35 semantics wrote: Who cares he's been using a G9x just fine till now, he's looking to get a new mouse before his mouse breaks. If perfect sensors were necessary for games very few mice would fall into that and you'd have to pair them with a proper surface. Close enough sensors are good for all kinds of gaming outside of super serious people who play fps games 8+ hours a day. I see it the same as people who stick to PS/2 keyboards for insignificant amounts of lag time due to how the computer takes the input stack. Or those who use CRT monitors for similar reasons. Most people have acceptable ranges for interfaces. PS/2 keyboards you're talking a couple milliseconds delay, you'd want PS2 for NKRO on a cheap keyboard, it's better than USB in pretty much every way for keyboards. That's mostly a small thing though, unless you specifically run into issues pressing multiple keys at once - a mouse having ~7% variance in how far it tracks for the same movement is a fatal flaw though. It's not even something you can tolerate, it's just once you have better you will NEVER look back. There's no way to develop muscle memory with that kind of mouse, because it's impossible on a sensor level to be more than ~93% accurate consistently - compared to say a Deathadder where ~99.5% is possible if you're really good. | ||
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
On April 12 2013 02:22 eBinTestO wrote: I'm not sure what do you mean but that just means it doesn't have angle snapping? I don't know what mouse you're used to, but if your other mouse has had angle snapping it might feel weird in the beginning. I love the abyssus, and the sensor is amazing. Not sure what's the problem with yours. no he's talking about the inconsistent ripple bug on certain cloth mousepads. The Abyssus, while having a good sensor and whatnot has some pretty bad ripple problems with certain mousepads, namely soft cloth like the Puretrak Talent, as well as others. It seems to be very finicky about the surface it's on. Hard pads should be no problem afaik. esr thread, idk how accurate this is as it might also be very mouse specific as well: http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1881007 | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
The kana is close to a perfect mouse so long as you use 800 dpi or below. If you go above that it becomes basically useless, so be warned about that. Just to make it even more clear, when you become confident in your micro you will then start to do builds or strategies that you never would have attempted otherwise. It really is a huge deal to use the right settings for you. | ||
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
On April 12 2013 02:49 AnomalySC2 wrote: I'm not sure if I ever posted this advice in here, but I can't recommend people to grab a kana and play with 800 dpi enough. My micro, mouse accuracy, and speed went up 10x after doing so. Previously I had used an mx518 at 1600 dpi, and while you would think lower dpi means you will technically go "faster", it was causing me to fumble mouse movements and it just wasn't nearly as crisp or smooth for me. You will have to make slightly larger mouse swipes but once you get used to it there is no going back. The kana is close to a perfect mouse so long as you use 800 dpi or below. If you go above that it becomes basically useless, so be warned about that. Just to make it even more clear, when you become confident in your micro you will then start to do builds or strategies that you never would have attempted otherwise. It really is a huge deal to use the right settings for you. Gonna up this post simply because of how much i agree. I have had my kana for 3 weeks now on 800 dpi and i have never felt this accurate and smooth before. Using a the steelseries SK mousepad it is absolutely heaven when playing with it. Strong recommendation is to definetly stay on 800 dpi and change the sensitivity ingame instead if you are not satisfied with the speed Edit: I dont acutally know how it is when over 800 dpi because I never tried, I am satisfied like this, being a previous Sensei and Ikari owner, Kana definetly tops them both. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On April 12 2013 04:20 KapsyL wrote: Gonna up this post simply because of how much i agree. I have had my kana for 3 weeks now on 800 dpi and i have never felt this accurate and smooth before. Using a the steelseries SK mousepad it is absolutely heaven when playing with it. Strong recommendation is to definetly stay on 800 dpi and change the sensitivity ingame instead if you are not satisfied with the speed Edit: I dont acutally know how it is when over 800 dpi because I never tried, I am satisfied like this, being a previous Sensei and Ikari owner, Kana definetly tops them both. Over 800 dpi the sensor becomes incredibly inaccurate. To add some more advice, I recommend turning ingame sensitivity off completely and using windows settings at 6/11 with acceleration turned OFF. It will feel slow and weird at first if you aren't already used to this, but it will help your game immensely in the long run if you take a couple of days to adjust. | ||
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frostdr
Germany42 Posts
the same with Zowie EC1. Before I buy another mouse I want to find out which Manufacturer doesnt trick their customers. | ||
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TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
On April 12 2013 23:53 frostdr wrote: i have a g700 - dont buy it. its my second one. Logitech wants more money. The LMB doesnt work after one year. You must press it down hard, or else Selection frames wont work! the same with Zowie EC1. Before I buy another mouse I want to find out which Manufacturer doesnt trick their customers. That's just silly. No company has the "evil" intent from the get-go to fool their customers into spending more money on their stuff by making bad products. That's a sad opinion to have regarding people. | ||
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
On April 12 2013 23:53 frostdr wrote: i have a g700 - dont buy it. its my second one. Logitech wants more money. The LMB doesnt work after one year. You must press it down hard, or else Selection frames wont work! the same with Zowie EC1. Before I buy another mouse I want to find out which Manufacturer doesnt trick their customers. Won't happen in your lifetime. Every major company does this as that's the point of a marketing team, to spin you tales of the sheer awesomeness of their products and get you to buy regardless of any other consideration. No company will willfully admit that they've developed a product that has flaws for rather obvious reasons (also, subjectivity), that's why its up to the community to determine whether or not the products deliver or aren't worth it. On a side note, I got my g100s today! Took many pictures and will do a full review in the near future on it. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On April 12 2013 05:26 AnomalySC2 wrote: Over 800 dpi the sensor becomes incredibly inaccurate. To add some more advice, I recommend turning ingame sensitivity off completely and using windows settings at 6/11 with acceleration turned OFF. It will feel slow and weird at first if you aren't already used to this, but it will help your game immensely in the long run if you take a couple of days to adjust. This was true at the release of the Kana, but if you get a firmware update for it, it's fine above 800 dpi. The sensor is not 'perfect' as it has some prediction, but it is minor enough to not bother me and the shape of the Kana is perfect for me, so I'd also recommend it! | ||
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frostdr
Germany42 Posts
On April 13 2013 02:24 TwilightRain wrote: That's just silly. No company has the "evil" intent from the get-go to fool their customers into spending more money on their stuff by making bad products. That's a sad opinion to have regarding people. wow boy. dont be so naive, planned obsolescence is well known fact at least for the cheaper super market electronics - i can live with that, but not the serious more expensive gamer products. thats too much. http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Aufstand-gegen-geplante-Obsoleszenz-1831367.html | ||
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mk.ultra
United States54 Posts
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Ophe
Sweden388 Posts
On April 15 2013 04:52 mk.ultra wrote: Logitech G100s is amazing, buy it. How stiff are the mouse buttons and how hard is it to click the scroll wheel? I have a Logitech Mx510, a Razer Deathadder, a Zowie Mico and a CM Storm Spawn so if you could compare it to any of them that would be nice. I love the m1/m2 buttons on the Spawn but it has been dying for quite a while and it (the thumb buttons and the scroll) keep double/triple/quadruple clicking all the time and I'm not gonna buy another one with that kind of quality. Edit: I opened up my Storm and it turns out that the three switches that are malfunctioning are all ttc switches, what a fucking coincidence. I also found out that the m1 and m2 are Omron D2FC-F-7N switches and it seems like the G100s is using the same.It looks like I've found my next mouse. | ||
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