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Razer Blackwidow Review - Page 3
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Raiznhell
Canada786 Posts
dont know much about keyboards and how different ones affect gameplay. | ||
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Redunzl
862 Posts
On October 08 2010 08:33 viraltouch wrote: would be nice if anyone who has used filco/daskey review this board i comparison... been thinking about getting filco keyboard for awhile now... filco is over-priced but destroys that razer keyboard. gloss and keyboards do not mix. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4349 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:35 unfo wrote: Does this keyboard have any sort of drain holes to let liquids that flow out at the bottom? The main source of keyboard deaths for me is me accidently dumping my drinks over them.. I was thinking about getting one of these, but I'd hate to ruin it with drink spillage. they should do , even the ibm model m's from the early 90s had drainage holes | ||
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
On October 09 2010 12:09 Raiznhell wrote: just wondering but what makes this keyboard better than a basic dell keyboard from 6 years ago? XD Think of them as cars. Something like a Filco would be a nice luxury car, like a BMW or Mercedes - pricey, high performance, with an understated look and excellent fit and finish. A Black Widow would be something like a Camero - not quite so expensive, but still has some sporty performance and looks. A Topre is a Lotus - exotic and very expensive. Your basic Dell keyboard is a Hoveround®. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4349 Posts
people on here are talking about buying SSD's for 3 times that that will be obsolete within a couple of years | ||
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PackofHighly
United States153 Posts
They don't really talk about the selection process (claiming its a proprietary secret to their process) but that leaves me a bit dubious. Either way though I'm enjoying this keyboard. | ||
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Flaunt
New Zealand784 Posts
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Adeeler
United Kingdom764 Posts
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Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On October 09 2010 05:31 lethal111 wrote: I have the Steelseries 6Gv2, and to be quite frankly, I like it, my first mechanical keyboard and its good. I loved my 6gv2 up until the point where I had to actually do work on it. The layout on the US version has '\' below return instead of above. Made it too much of a pain to use, so I returned it. It's good to hear that the mx blues aren't a bother for you. My wallet is now torn between a blackwidow and a nkey filco with brown switches. Unless there are some negative reviews that come in the next few weeks, I'll probably pick this up at the end of the month and do something productive with the extra 50$. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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blatch
United States4 Posts
On October 10 2010 06:06 Djzapz wrote: Anyone knows if retailers are going to carry this? Best Buy will carry it. It's currently listed as out of stock on their site, and it's in all stores' inventories. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On October 09 2010 12:50 CaptainFwiffo wrote: Think of them as cars. Something like a Filco would be a nice luxury car, like a BMW or Mercedes - pricey, high performance, with an understated look and excellent fit and finish. A Black Widow would be something like a Camero - not quite so expensive, but still has some sporty performance and looks. A Topre is a Lotus - exotic and very expensive. Your basic Dell keyboard is a Hoveround®. That's a silly analogy because expensive cars are not made any better than your average Honda (in fact most have worse reliability). I assume people spend this much money on a keyboard because they have proven reliability and durability. It certainly can't be for performance, since my $6 keyboard has never inhibited me through thousands of BW ladder games over the years. | ||
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Gcubed
United States131 Posts
On October 11 2010 02:52 city42 wrote: That's a silly analogy because expensive cars are not made any better than your average Honda (in fact most have worse reliability). I assume people spend this much money on a keyboard because they have proven reliability and durability. It certainly can't be for performance, since my $6 keyboard has never inhibited me through thousands of BW ladder games over the years. Its seems you have the term performance and reliability mixed up. A Ferrari will have 10 times the build quality of a Honda, and 10 times the performance. With that said a Honda can be be just as reliable because its not being cranked for maximum performance. That's why you hear stories of expensive fast cars being unreliable. What you don't hear about is all the idiots that blow up their Honda's trying to make them Ferrari's. So anyway you look at it a Ferrari is a much higher quality product. Back on topic. Buyers of expensive gaming products aren't shopping first, and fore mostly for reliability. Their shopping for a product which will give them the competitive edge. That's not to say reliability and durability aren't important; performance, reliability, and durability are all necessary for a quality product. That being said the majority of people buy a mechanical keyboard for the performance, and feel; the durability, and reliability are just an added bonus. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On October 11 2010 03:32 Gcubed wrote: Its seems you have the term performance and reliability mixed up. A Ferrari will have 10 times the build quality of a Honda, and 10 times the performance. With that said a Honda can be be just as reliable because its not being cranked for maximum performance. That's why you hear stories of expensive fast cars being unreliable. What you don't hear about is all the idiots that blow up their Honda's trying to make them Ferrari's. So anyway you look at it a Ferrari is a much higher quality product. Back on topic. Buyers of expensive gaming products aren't shopping first, and fore mostly for reliability. Their shopping for a product which will give them the competitive edge. That's not to say reliability and durability aren't important; performance, reliability, and durability are all necessary for a quality product. That being said the majority of people buy a mechanical keyboard for the performance, and feel; the durability, and reliability are just an added bonus. Huh? A Ferrari does not have 10 times the build quality of a Honda. I don't even know where to begin if you think that's the case. The original S2000 was pushed to 120 hp/liter normally aspirated (highest in the world at the time it was manufactured) and suffered no loss of reliability in the powertrain compared to the less sporty models. Almost no Ferrari owners use it as their daily driver (mainly because of fuel economy and complete lack of ergonomic consideration), so the questionable build quality has fewer opportunities to be exposed. Most of the price of a Ferrari is the markup for the badge and high class image. The Nissan GT-R, for example, is on par performance-wise with any non-Enzo Ferrari (which costs $650k) while costing well under $100k and receiving rave reviews about its build quality. Also, stop throwing random apostrophes at me. edit: That's the last I will go off topic here, I just felt the need to dispel the nonsense put forth in that post. | ||
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Gcubed
United States131 Posts
On October 11 2010 04:02 city42 wrote: Huh? A Ferrari does not have 10 times the build quality of a Honda. I don't even know where to begin if you think that's the case. The original S2000 was pushed to 120 hp/liter normally aspirated (highest in the world at the time it was manufactured) and suffered no loss of reliability in the powertrain compared to the less sporty models. Almost no Ferrari owners use it as their daily driver (mainly because of fuel economy and complete lack of ergonomic consideration), so the questionable build quality has fewer opportunities to be exposed. Most of the price of a Ferrari is the markup for the badge and high class image. The Nissan GT-R, for example, is on par performance-wise with any non-Enzo Ferrari (which costs $650k) while costing well under $100k and receiving rave reviews about its build quality. Also, stop throwing random apostrophes at me. edit: That's the last I will go off topic here, I just felt the need to dispel the nonsense put forth in that post. Okay maybe like 15 times better. Listen, I'm no Honda fan boy like you that'll google his way through an forum debate, but an unbiased person would realize the fact of the matter, Ferrari is hands down a higher quality product than an Honda. You cant even argue against that, Honda themselves won't even argue against that. The S2k is an amazing car, my friend has a 2003, Ive driven it, I've drove in it and I've seen the many problems he's had with it (one of which was a faulty e-brake cable, causing the car to roll down the hill into a wall). Admitting none were from the engine, which is honestly a legendary engine. I'm assuming you've never seen the production of a Ferrari so I won't even continue but if you still think your right try finding people who have hands on experience with both cars, and then ask them. I'm sure you'll be able to put up a lot of facts. I like how you point out why people don't drive Ferrari's daily when you clearly have no idea what your talking about. Why would gas prices concern a person driving a 200k car? And you say I'M posting nonsense | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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city42
1656 Posts
On October 11 2010 06:37 Gcubed wrote: Okay maybe like 15 times better. Listen, I'm no Honda fan boy like you that'll google his way through an forum debate, but an unbiased person would realize the fact of the matter, Ferrari is hands down a higher quality product than an Honda. You cant even argue against that, Honda themselves won't even argue against that. The S2k is an amazing car, my friend has a 2003, Ive driven it, I've drove in it and I've seen the many problems he's had with it (one of which was a faulty e-brake cable, causing the car to roll down the hill into a wall). Admitting none were from the engine, which is honestly a legendary engine. I'm assuming you've never seen the production of a Ferrari so I won't even continue but if you still think your right try finding people who have hands on experience with both cars, and then ask them. I'm sure you'll be able to put up a lot of facts. I like how you point out why people don't drive Ferrari's daily when you clearly have no idea what your talking about. Why would gas prices concern a person driving a 200k car? And you say I'M posting nonsense First of all, when did I mention cost of fuel? It's not terribly difficult to infer that I was talking about convenience. Who would want to put gas in their extremely uncomfortable car 3-4 times a week? Putting words in my mouth is a poor way to debate. Secondly, what makes me a Honda fanboy exactly? You can throw any reputable car make in there, Honda was just used as an example. Alleging that one S2000's problems are indicative of the car as a whole is a little too much synecdoche, don't you think? And what did I google? The fact about the S2000 isn't exactly advanced automobile knowledge, nor are Nurburgring/Top Gear test track times which are used as benchmarks for supercar performance. You're also offering absolutely no evidence of Ferrari's build quality, as if it's supposed to be a universal truth which should be accepted blindly. Clearly you aren't much of a Top Gear fan, or you would have heard Clarkson rip apart the construction of almost every Ferrari he's ever tested. If you want to continue this conversation just PM me, because I'm not going to continue debating cars in a keyboard thread. However, don't PM me unless you master some basic English grammar, because seeing "Ferrari's" as an attempt to show plurality is really annoying. | ||
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
The underlying technology of a membrane keyboard is different and not in the same performance category, so it's not even quite a car (though it is a transport). It's not even a hybrid, or an electric car, as they are meant to be a similar performance class as "regular" cars. It's something along the lines of a golf cart, rickshaw, wheelbarrow, horse and buggy, electric wheelchair, radio flyer... Take your pick. Maybe power tools is a better analogy? E.g. why would you spend hundreds on a nice table saw when you could get a circular saw at El-Cheapo-Mart for $20? | ||
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Skuller
United States197 Posts
That being said, I'm actually very interested in getting a different keyboard than my current one (a g15 where some of the keys are broken). I'm very interested in the Black Widow. 'd like to hear more on the relative switch (blue, black or brown) qualities, or whether the original user has the problems with the double tap of one key that is rumored to exist on blue switches. I'd be particularly interested in getting the point of view from someone who has experience with the razer black widow and the steelseries 7g or 6gv2. How do the two devices size up to each other? It seems in terms of entry-level mechanical keyboards, those two are the common products. Filco and Das, from a US customer standpoint, seem harder to find. | ||
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. anyone know if the steelseries 6gv2 is any good?
