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muchadoaboutnothing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States22 Posts
November 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#561
On November 22 2010 13:20 mrflakes wrote:
It's possible the logo could be covered because of the angle, but it seems like that corner is missing a logo altogether. Since he's not using an n-key rollover model, the silver logo would be pretty easy to see, but I didn't catch a single glimpse of it. Someone should just ask him what keyboard he uses when he wins his RO64 match, haha.


He could just cover it in tape... or it may be removable. I'm not sure which. I haven't tried removing the Filco logo from my keyboards.

On November 22 2010 13:20 mrflakes wrote:The ABS M1 I'm using definitely has blue LEDs as well. Lawsuit inc?
Edit: Perhaps the patent is for the two LED layout, rather than the traditional 3?


I was being facetious. Anyhow, the ABS M1 was made by Costar of Taiwan, who also is the ODM for the Filco & DAS keyboards. Having the LED layout be the same on the M1 makes sense as they have the same body (although the Filco uses the CST-104 and the ABS M1 used the CST-105A).
mrflakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States713 Posts
November 22 2010 17:49 GMT
#562
Mm, that's true. Just seems a bit odd since he did no such thing in the first GSL when all of this was brought about.

I figured as much. I clearly don't know as much about the manufacturers as you do, but unfortunately that doesn't really help us narrow anything down anyway. FD needs some more time in the spotlight so we could figure this out much easier.
muchadoaboutnothing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 23:12:54
November 22 2010 23:12 GMT
#563
On November 23 2010 02:49 mrflakes wrote:
Mm, that's true. Just seems a bit odd since he did no such thing in the first GSL when all of this was brought about.


Sponsors don't like it when people notice that you're using a competitor's gear. If my theory is correct and he covered it up it would most likely be due to all of the attention his brand of keyboard got on here and elsewhere.

On November 23 2010 02:49 mrflakes wrote:[
figured as much. I clearly don't know as much about the manufacturers as you do, but unfortunately that doesn't really help us narrow anything down anyway. FD needs some more time in the spotlight so we could figure this out much easier.

Indeed. It's not really clear from here what he's using...
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 22 2010 23:45 GMT
#564
All the TSL players are now using a new keyboard from their sponsor SkyDigital/nKeyboard. It is the SkyDigital nKeyboard Mechanic. It also features CherryMX Blue/Brown/Black switches. I guess in many ways its a FILCO Majestouch imitation/copy made by their sponsors.


muchadoaboutnothing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States22 Posts
November 23 2010 00:36 GMT
#565
The patent description on the SkyKeyboard Nkeyboard page says the patent is on a low cost way to achieve N-key with membranes.
http://en.skyok.co.kr/product.php?code=605

I'm not saying that you're wrong; perhaps they have another similarly named keyboard. Can you provide a source link though? I don't see it listed under the input devices section of Sky Digital's website.
FoxSpirit
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria160 Posts
November 23 2010 01:04 GMT
#566
http://skyok.co.kr/product.php?code=741

This page is not available in the English section, only the Korean one.
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CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
November 23 2010 01:09 GMT
#567
Looks like a match. Large enter key, no logo in the upper right, logo/writing above arrow keys.
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
muchadoaboutnothing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States22 Posts
November 23 2010 02:41 GMT
#568
On November 23 2010 10:04 FoxSpirit wrote:
http://skyok.co.kr/product.php?code=741

This page is not available in the English section, only the Korean one.


Thanks. Interesting...
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
November 23 2010 02:57 GMT
#569
Newegg.ca is having a $20 off sale on select Rosewill products; I just checked and the mechanical keyboard is one of them. So the price is now 80$ plus shipping for canadian customers.
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
November 23 2010 03:21 GMT
#570
Looks like they finally got more mechanical keyboards on stock. :D
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 09:02:47
November 23 2010 08:57 GMT
#571
On November 20 2010 15:45 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 15:37 butter wrote:
On November 20 2010 14:33 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Actually keycaps are very fragile on any cherry switch based keyboard. I broke so many keycaps, and it was costing me so much to get replacements, that I ended up buying a keyboard with topre capacitative switches instead. Which IMO are much more solid that cherry switches.

How did you break them :o

People who break keyboards will always find ways to break them, lasting 10 times longer means crap when you treat them like crap. I have old membrane keyboards that work just fine that i've used for years for various reasons, because i protect and clean, ie maintain them.


No. The switches last ten times longer. The keycaps are very fragile because of the way the connectors are shaped and how thin they are. This is not good when you are constantly taking it with you to lans and whatnot. This is why companies sell after-market dual-injection molded keycaps for cherry switch keyboards, but rarely (if any) topre capacitive ones.

TOPRE capacitive switches have a round connector rather than a 'plus' sign connector like the cherries, which is physically more robust.

I would suspect cherry keycaps to be the weakest of the lot just by looking at them, I have never broken keycaps on any other keyboard, including rubber dome ones.

If you look at the thinnest part of the keycap where the switch slots into, you will see why they are so easy to break, that part is paper thin and they always break there.

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CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
November 23 2010 14:31 GMT
#572
I've never heard of anyone actually breaking a keycap except in extreme cases of abuse, e.g. a hatchet. I've never seen a picture of a broken keycap.
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 23 2010 21:38 GMT
#573
Interesting thread on geekhack, a store called PCHome in Taiwan is doing a promo where international shipping is $20.

They have filcos, duckys, etc and they ship anywhere. I really wish I could justify buying another keyboard, I would hop on a tenkeyless Ducky for $75 so fast. Here's the thread

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=12854
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
November 24 2010 01:18 GMT
#574
Does anyone know where I can get the filco wrist rest without going to the keyboard company because shipping is very expensive there.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
November 24 2010 13:10 GMT
#575
How does the Black Widow compare to the Filco Keyboard?
On this website Razer also compares their board to other mechanical boards and (obviously) claim theirs is better.

http://www2.razerzone.com/blackwidow/
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
November 24 2010 13:53 GMT
#576
On November 24 2010 22:10 magha wrote:
How does the Black Widow compare to the Filco Keyboard?
On this website Razer also compares their board to other mechanical boards and (obviously) claim theirs is better.

http://www2.razerzone.com/blackwidow/


lol at linking to razer's own website...

go to geekhack to see the problems with the black widow and see if you'd like it (its not a perfect keyboard, but depending on how you use it, the problems it has may be non-important to you)
cler1c
Profile Joined November 2010
United States8 Posts
November 25 2010 07:29 GMT
#577
can anyone translate the skydigital site so i can buy one!!!!
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 10:09:37
November 25 2010 10:08 GMT
#578
On November 23 2010 17:57 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 15:45 semantics wrote:
On November 20 2010 15:37 butter wrote:
On November 20 2010 14:33 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Actually keycaps are very fragile on any cherry switch based keyboard. I broke so many keycaps, and it was costing me so much to get replacements, that I ended up buying a keyboard with topre capacitative switches instead. Which IMO are much more solid that cherry switches.

How did you break them :o

People who break keyboards will always find ways to break them, lasting 10 times longer means crap when you treat them like crap. I have old membrane keyboards that work just fine that i've used for years for various reasons, because i protect and clean, ie maintain them.


No. The switches last ten times longer. The keycaps are very fragile because of the way the connectors are shaped and how thin they are. This is not good when you are constantly taking it with you to lans and whatnot. This is why companies sell after-market dual-injection molded keycaps for cherry switch keyboards, but rarely (if any) topre capacitive ones.

TOPRE capacitive switches have a round connector rather than a 'plus' sign connector like the cherries, which is physically more robust.

I would suspect cherry keycaps to be the weakest of the lot just by looking at them, I have never broken keycaps on any other keyboard, including rubber dome ones.

If you look at the thinnest part of the keycap where the switch slots into, you will see why they are so easy to break, that part is paper thin and they always break there.

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I've seen people who have "broken" the switch itself by being far to vigorous (on purpose for testing) when taking the keycaps off Cherry based keyboards. However, because the switches are so well made, they were able to put it back together with a little effort. I have never seen a broken keycap.

I'm sure the topre keycaps are slightly more sturdy but honestly it's nothing anyone should worry about.
Lil.Sassy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
November 28 2010 06:06 GMT
#579
On November 24 2010 22:10 magha wrote:
How does the Black Widow compare to the Filco Keyboard?
On this website Razer also compares their board to other mechanical boards and (obviously) claim theirs is better.

http://www2.razerzone.com/blackwidow/


The only thing different is that it's prettier. It's also just a rip of another keyboard they just replaced the switch with mechanical ones and tacked on a razer logo
Ughghghg
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
November 28 2010 16:07 GMT
#580
Does anyone know of a good wrist rest to go with the Filco Majestouch?
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