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Hey guys, I'll make this short and sweet.
I bought a MacBook Pro around six months ago without awareness of Macs mouse acceleration. I am super happy with my mac in every aspect aside from the mouse behavior. I bought an external mouse (bluetooth logitech), and it's pretty nice and comfortable.
I am wondering if people could share their best fixes for the Mouse Acceleration problem. The two fixes I've heard of are...
1). A third party program - I haven't experimented with any of these. Are they allowed? How specifically do they help?
2). I read on some random website of a way to alter both the mouse's settings, apples built in laptop mouse settings, and the ingame sensitivity. This is what I've experimented with, but i'm still quite unhappy with it. Has anyone maybe found a sweet spot with this?
I feel that this is my biggest handicap in SC2 right now, mouse control. If you guys could share your Mouse Acceleration experiences, I'd be quite appreciative.
Thanks!
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Hey there, fellow mac user here, and I can completely empathize with your plight of this "feature" in regards to SC2 play.
It took some looking around, but I did manage to find a program which effectively reduces the acceleration to a very acceptable level (almost non existent).
I'm not sure what the policy is here in regards to direct links to "illegal" download areas, so all I'll say is it's called USB Overdrive, and requires a serial number (it's typically $20). There are many places you can d/l this from, so the chocie is yours if you want to be ethical or real ;p.
Hope this helps, I really wish macs had a "NO F*CKING MOUSE ACCEL" option
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On September 14 2010 03:51 Nick.TNA wrote: Hey guys, I'll make this short and sweet.
I bought a MacBook Pro around six months ago without awareness of Macs mouse acceleration. I am super happy with my mac in every aspect aside from the mouse behavior. I bought an external mouse (bluetooth logitech), and it's pretty nice and comfortable.
I am wondering if people could share their best fixes for the Mouse Acceleration problem. The two fixes I've heard of are...
1). A third party program - I haven't experimented with any of these. Are they allowed? How specifically do they help?
2). I read on some random website of a way to alter both the mouse's settings, apples built in laptop mouse settings, and the ingame sensitivity. This is what I've experimented with, but i'm still quite unhappy with it. Has anyone maybe found a sweet spot with this?
I feel that this is my biggest handicap in SC2 right now, mouse control. If you guys could share your Mouse Acceleration experiences, I'd be quite appreciative.
Thanks! use a third party program... its called windows 
seriously.. i also play on my mac pro. i LOVE my mac for everything except for starcraft.. sc2 and bw both (no proper iccup support pisses me off.. and most iccup maps dont even work on the mac version of bw -.-)
for some reason it runs a lot smoother on windows... no idea why lol
hope this is an option for you
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i'm a pc user so i don't know about macs but i am a professional googler.
run this code dealio in terminal, then log out and log in. i have no idea what terminal is, but i assume it's like apple's version of cmd.
defaults write .GlobalPreferences com.apple.mouse.scaling -1 defaults write .GlobalPreferences com.apple.trackpad.scaling -1
hope it works =]
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Thanks everybody, but universalwill I tried this already. It doesn't behave the right way, I can still measure mouse acceleration in starcraft 2. It is lowered, but definately not OFF :/
edit : i have a Razer LAchesis, I don't know if that can help. From what I've seen on the internet, this story differs from ms/logitech/razer users
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I have a MacBook Pro, and found that I minimized mouse acceleration by using a Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 (using the bundled driver). It's cheap, and actually simulates PC-mouse control fairly well. I very strongly recommend trying it out; I couldn't be happier with how it controls on my Mac.
I tried a Razer DeathAdder first, and found it to be very imprecise; its drivers for the mac aren't that great, IMO. There's an option to turn down acceleration in the Razer driver but I don't think it worked at all; I ended up returning it.
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On September 14 2010 04:18 Thunderflesh wrote: I have a MacBook Pro, and found that I minimized mouse acceleration by using a Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 (using the bundled driver). It's cheap, and actually simulates PC-mouse control fairly well. I very strongly recommend trying it out; I couldn't be happier with how it controls on my Mac.
I tried a Razer DeathAdder first, and found it to be very imprecise; its drivers for the mac aren't that great, IMO. There's an option to turn down acceleration in the Razer driver but I don't think it worked at all; I ended up returning it.
Yeah I think the accerelation remaining is due to Razer or something. Unfortunately the Lachesis doesn't have drivers for mac os
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I have used USB Overdrive for years, first cracked but now with bought license. It has worked for me with several mouses, both increasing the mouse speed and completely removing the mouse acceleration.
It has a trial version, I highly recommend you to try it.
edit: works perfect for me with SC2
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I tried it but it failed. I still got some acceleration left. I think I'll have to bootcamp, but it doesn't work either T.T
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I've used USB overdrive forever. Just the trial, no need to buy the full version unless you're too impatient to wait 10 seconds on boot up.
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On September 14 2010 04:25 Cofo wrote: I've used USB overdrive forever. Just the trial, no need to buy the full version unless you're too impatient to wait 10 seconds on boot up.
OK, so I guess my problem comes from the Razer Lachesis
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My mouse (Logitech G9) spazzes out completely when I boot up SC2 in OS X, while USB Overdrive pretty much eliminates mouse acceleration in any other app/at the desktop. It's just really weird and completely unplayable. Thank fuck for Boot Camp.
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On September 14 2010 04:28 TyrantGuardian wrote: My mouse (Logitech G9) spazzes out completely when I boot up SC2 in OS X, while USB Overdrive pretty much eliminates mouse acceleration in any other app/at the desktop. It's just really weird and completely unplayable. Thank fuck for Boot Camp.
Same for me. But I can't manage to make that bootcamp work.
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I'd like to put in another vote for USB Overdrive. The program has been maintained for ELEVEN years. You can run it without paying because like Cofo said it will just have a wait when you open it.
I use that with a Razer Deathaddler and I've fine tuned mouse settings to exactly what I want.
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On September 14 2010 04:45 mattzago wrote: I'd like to put in another vote for USB Overdrive. The program has been maintained for ELEVEN years. You can run it without paying because like Cofo said it will just have a wait when you open it.
I use that with a Razer Deathaddler and I've fine tuned mouse settings to exactly what I want.
Yeah I guess you could do that because there are mac drivers for the Deathadder. Not for the Lachesis though
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USB overdrive can be used without a licence, you just have to wait 10 seconds after opening it to modify settings. I believe it can also be used for application specific settings. OSX mouse acceleration is so wonky it's absurd. Bootcamp is a better option though, SC2 actually runs a good bit better on windows on a macbook pro than it does in OSX(at least the beta did).
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As to it supposingly not supporting Razer Lachesis, just send an email to support@usboverdrive.com. Maybe you are doing something wrong and he can tell you what that is, or maybe the mouse is not supported but he can fix it.
On September 14 2010 04:28 TyrantGuardian wrote: My mouse (Logitech G9) spazzes out completely when I boot up SC2 in OS X, while USB Overdrive pretty much eliminates mouse acceleration in any other app/at the desktop. It's just really weird and completely unplayable. Thank fuck for Boot Camp. Try to have the "mouse sensitivity" as 0% in SC2 (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/skarmavbild20100913kl22.png/). Before I did that, my mouse was extremely quick when a game started and I had to take out the mouse and then put it in the USB again.
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On September 14 2010 04:18 Thunderflesh wrote: I have a MacBook Pro, and found that I minimized mouse acceleration by using a Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 (using the bundled driver). It's cheap, and actually simulates PC-mouse control fairly well. I very strongly recommend trying it out; I couldn't be happier with how it controls on my Mac.
I tried a Razer DeathAdder first, and found it to be very imprecise; its drivers for the mac aren't that great, IMO. There's an option to turn down acceleration in the Razer driver but I don't think it worked at all; I ended up returning it.
Funny, I had the exact same thing. I bought the DeathAdder but the drivers sucked, no matter wich settings I tried I always had some acceleration left to the extend that it anyoed the hell out of me. So I moved back to my cheap ass Microsoft IntelliMouse which works perfectly.
I then went on and bought the Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 4.0 but that mouse seems to 'bug out' even in Mac OS X when you move it fast (No bugging in BootCamp Windows). So back to my 3 year old IntelliMouse!
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On September 14 2010 05:15 superjoppe wrote:As to it supposingly not supporting Razer Lachesis, just send an email to support@usboverdrive.com. Maybe you are doing something wrong and he can tell you what that is, or maybe the mouse is not supported but he can fix it. Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 04:28 TyrantGuardian wrote: My mouse (Logitech G9) spazzes out completely when I boot up SC2 in OS X, while USB Overdrive pretty much eliminates mouse acceleration in any other app/at the desktop. It's just really weird and completely unplayable. Thank fuck for Boot Camp. Try to have the "mouse sensitivity" as 0% in SC2 (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/skarmavbild20100913kl22.png/). Before I did that, my mouse was extremely quick when a game started and I had to take out the mouse and then put it in the USB again.
Gonna try this myself. I have the exact same problem, I have to replug my USB mouse every time when a new game loads because it is just super fast.
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Get a copy of Windows for the sole purpose of playing video games.
That's what I do! ^_^
I haven't found any "fix" for Mac OS X that works properly. The best (and so far easiest) solution really is just install windows and use that for gaming.
Also, go complain about it on Apple's support website. If they're serious about making Mac OS X a gaming platform, they need to at least add in an option to turn off mouse acceleration.
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MacBook pro owner here as well.
Windows 7 + bootcamp for gaming = your solution.
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I use ControllerMate, it costs you money but it is by far the best mouse driver I have ever seen (and cheaper than usboverdrive). You can program seperate acceleration curves for each application, rebind buttons on both keyboard and mouse and even program very sophisticated macros through an UI. Never seen anything like it.
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USB Overdrive definitely didn't remove the acceleration for me, Steermouse on the other hand did. Still, I had to install Windows because I couldn't get used to OS X's inherent mouse lag (it's really noticeable).
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i know this thread is fairly old but i just bought a razer deathadder and was having a lot of problems with it so i thought i would share what ive found.
on razer mice, once u download the driver software you can change your mouses USB polling rate to 125. this setting disables the Mac problems and allows you to use the mouse nicely.
it may also be noted that you must change your mac systems mouse settings everytime you change something in the razer mouse driver settings. this has solved the problem for me.
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On September 14 2010 05:47 iEchoic wrote: MacBook pro owner here as well.
Windows 7 + bootcamp for gaming = your solution.
Yep. I don't use my Win 7 partition for anything but gaming. It's worth the minute one it takes to boot out of OS X and into Win 7, and unless you have a brand new beast of a Mac, you'll always get better performance with SC2 in windows since it's just optimized better for Direct X then it is for Open GL. For example, my early 2009 MBP can only run reliably in all low settings Mac side, but runs everything medium just fine pushing a 24in monitor at a much higher resolution on windows side.
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USB Overdrive works great. You don't need to pay $20 to use it. The $20 is only so that the annoying message goes away every time you open the driver from System Preferences.
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this thread is awesome, i hope some of this works for me, because my micro has suffered greatly since my purchase of my macbook
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I've been having to use bootcamp to play sc every single time. USB overdrive does NOT work. there is still mouse acceleration
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Overdrive works with me. I have a Razer Orochi and it seemed that the drivers interfered w/ Overdrive. I uninstalled the drivers, reinstalled Overdrive, and voila, no acceleration.
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im gonna have to go along with everyone else.
bootcamp is the way to go.
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FYI SC2 runs very very well under WINE in Ubuntu - better than OSX actually. I'm playing with a low end GeForce 9400 GT and can 1v1 ladder smoothly.
Edit: Just wanted to point out an alternative to shelling out hundreds of dollars for Windows 7. Ubuntu is free and IMO way better.
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Ok guys I have figured it out!
I have been working at this problem for many weeks with minimal success until I found this out by accident. It isn't the greatest solution, but it is one and hell its about time.
As far as i know this will work any mouse, I have tried it on two so far (thats all I have so I will let you guys do the extensive research) and had success with both. What you need for a razor mouse (or any mouse with its own software) is to download and install the software and disable mouse acceleration from within the program. Then from here all you need to do is open up StarCraft 2 and make it fullscreen. You should notice all of your settings have been lost. Fear Not! If you unplug your mouse and replug it in again, the software you have downloaded will override StarCraft 2 and revert back to no acceleration. This will mean that your mouse speed and such will be dictated by the 3rd party software and the StarCraft 2 tracking speed will be useless.
If you don't have a mouse with 3rd party drivers, you aren't out of luck. If you download USB Overdrive it will act as your 3rd party software and override StarCraft 2 with the same process. Make sure the "acceleration" box is checked and the slider is set to the lowest. Then load Starcraft 2 up and then unplug your mouse and replug it.
USB Overdrive:
http://www.usboverdrive.com/USBOverdrive/News.html
This should solve your mac mouse acceleration problems! It certainly did for me! If you have any questions PM me.
GLHF
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194668: That little free program solved my problems. I got a Razer orochi almost only for the drivers, thinking they would fix the problem and while they made it better they did not fix it. I also used USB overdrive and replugging in my mouse but it became annoying. This program is (for me) a perfect fix I installed it and it kept working.
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Has anyone tried Decelerator? It's a tiny app from the apple app store, specifically claiming to solve this. I've just installed it and played a quick game of SC2 - it works well *I think* - just need to play more before I can say if it's buggy or not. http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/decelerate/id449448909?mt=12
So far, I can recommend it - I can't wait to play some TF2 now - I've really noticed how much worse I am playing it on a Mac ; when it comes to the precision of rocket jumps or sniper play. Maybe there is hope for my Micro yet
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